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Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda in the morning, Satam, we are thrilled

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Speaker 1: to catch up with our next guest this morning, actress, director, producer,

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Speaker 1: founder of child advocacy nonprofit organization Adopt Change, and she's

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Speaker 1: officially making her way to Ramsey Street to direct neighbors.

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Speaker 1: It's deborahly Faness's Amanda and Jones.

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Speaker 2: Yes, is this weird for you guys doing zoom? Do

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Speaker 2: you normally just do that? I'm such an audio I'm

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Speaker 2: such a visual person. I like to look at the

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Speaker 2: eyes and all that.

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Speaker 3: Can you see this in the Do you like.

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Speaker 1: To dot our eyes and cross our teas?

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Speaker 3: I've got like I might drop that camera.

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Speaker 2: It's a zoom world now. It's like I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: a three dimensional person in months.

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Speaker 1: Your luck?

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Speaker 3: Well, what about you? Hughes around the house?

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Speaker 2: Isn't he okay? The families different?

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Speaker 1: How have you gone living in New York through all this?

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Speaker 1: The epicenter of so much that we're seeing on the

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Speaker 1: news right now.

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Speaker 2: It was so bizarre because I was literally in the

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Speaker 2: middle of doing Neighbors. I had one more day to go,

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Speaker 2: and I got a call and Hugh had brought the

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Speaker 2: kids out for a spring break to come out, and

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Speaker 2: we were going up north. We're going to go My

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Speaker 2: son is really into doing reforestation, so we had all

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Speaker 2: these big plans. Literally they were there four days and

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Speaker 2: the production shutdown. Then we got a call from our

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Speaker 2: lawyer saying, you've got to get back home. So I

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Speaker 2: left with one day to go, and we had to

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Speaker 2: fly back into the epicenter, as you said, and it

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Speaker 2: was it's been surreal. I mean, and you know, all

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Speaker 2: this stuff that's just happened now with George Floyd and

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Speaker 2: all the protesters, and I'm thrill that my kids participated

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Speaker 2: is in our backyard. It's all out there, and I

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Speaker 2: love that the world is. It's because of social media.

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Speaker 2: This is getting so much tension again, but this has

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Speaker 2: been going on a long time. Let's hope that there's

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Speaker 2: a shift with Black Lives Matter.

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Speaker 3: We had certainly haveened. But you would have thought when

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Speaker 3: you got back to New York, did you think, oh

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Speaker 3: my god, I wish I'd stayed in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: I know, but you know what, it's home here and

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Speaker 2: we've got two dogs, and you know, it was all that,

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Speaker 2: but we've just been you know, staying at home pretty much.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, but we're busy and doing things.

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Speaker 1: Well with directing Neighbors. What exactly does directing involve? Do

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Speaker 1: you help the actors act, do you create a scene

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Speaker 1: or a mood? How do you go about it?

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Speaker 2: Directing? I said the other day it's what I want

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Speaker 2: to be and I love directing, and I think as

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Speaker 2: an actor, I was always on the sidelines going no, no,

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Speaker 2: I should be at two shot, hair should be this.

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Speaker 2: I just it's like a big blank canvas and it's

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Speaker 2: thrilling for me. It's like you have an idea of

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Speaker 2: how you want to tell a story. Actors of storytellers,

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Speaker 2: directors of storytellers and directors can tell very different stories.

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Speaker 2: It can get the same script, but it's yours. It's

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Speaker 2: how you visualize it, how you work with your actors.

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Speaker 3: And you featured in Neighbors back in the eighties and

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Speaker 3: eighty five, do you remember what you played.

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Speaker 2: I just remember that I was Peter O'Brien as my

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Speaker 2: chauffeur and I had very big hair.

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Speaker 3: Has everyone did in the eighties.

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Speaker 2: It was it was very fashionable.

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Speaker 1: Well, our shoulder pads were so big, our hair had

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Speaker 1: to be bigger. Else just the maths tru that's true.

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Speaker 1: So this storyline in Neighbors is very close to your

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Speaker 1: heart because it's a story. It's a story about a

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Speaker 1: couple who want to adopt a child, but find fostering

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Speaker 1: the solution to what they want.

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Speaker 2: Well, in Australia, as you know, and I found an

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Speaker 2: adopt change because we had an anti adoption culture when

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Speaker 2: I set out and sort of adoption permanency for a

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Speaker 2: child is the best option, is what I'm saying. Kids

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Speaker 2: that go through a through the foster care system, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've heard it up to sixty seventy placements. Can you

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Speaker 2: imagine as a young kid with your bag of goods,

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Speaker 2: that you keep going to a new family, you're always

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Speaker 2: a stranger. Imagine what that does to your self esteem,

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Speaker 2: to your sense of security. And we've got to change that.

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Speaker 2: We as soon as we know. Like there's fifty thousand

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Speaker 2: kids in foster care, I think three quarters of those

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Speaker 2: kids have been permanently removed for whatever reason, and therefore

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Speaker 2: we need to find permanency for those children.

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Speaker 3: And what you've done, deb is you've normalized adoption. And

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Speaker 3: there's an article age reading and you said that people

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Speaker 3: used to mention adoption, people that have been adopted with

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Speaker 3: speaking hutch times, they'd say, oh, I'm adopted. You don't

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Speaker 3: really see that. It's still there, but it's not as

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Speaker 3: more people are coming out and saying well, I'm adopted,

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Speaker 3: but I love my mum and.

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Speaker 2: Dad absolutely that. When I first started, there was still

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Speaker 2: that stigma attached to it, like, you know, is your

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Speaker 2: adoptive as my son is biracial and I go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's adopted, don't don't you know. We've always been completely

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Speaker 2: transparent with the kids. That's their journey and they own it.

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Speaker 2: But it is harder. It's a hard start for a

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Speaker 2: child coming into the world. They have to deal with

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Speaker 2: that straight off the bat.

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Speaker 3: Well, good on you, Deborly Neighbours six thirty on weeknights

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Speaker 3: on ten Peach. Say hi to Hugh for us. Tell

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Speaker 3: him to stop baking the bread because you're off the carbs,

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Speaker 3: aren't you.

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Speaker 2: No, he's got the Keto friendly bread card. I woke

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Speaker 2: up this morning literally to the sun rising over it's

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Speaker 2: down at the beach and the smell of fresh bread.

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Speaker 2: I have to say it was pretty damn.

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Speaker 3: I didn't ever know there was such a thing.

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Speaker 1: Neither did I. But I'm going to google the second.

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Speaker 2: Check it out. Everyone's going to be you hanging for

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Speaker 2: this recipe.

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Speaker 3: I definitely look after yourself.

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Speaker 1: So nice to talk to you guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your support.

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Speaker 3: Thank Youbye, Join the and Amanda in Good Morning, but

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Speaker 3: at one point seven tell you