1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're dose of the hottest 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalists Amy 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: and Kate. Now on today's show, Sophia Beg leads the 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 1: charge to boycott Australian fast fashion brand White Fox Boutique, 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: Annapol's six five hundred dollars mistake, and Sky Wheatley's Britney 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Spears Moment. But first, it seems like we have hit 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: peak nineties revival. For quite some time now, nineties fashion 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: has been in circulation, from oversized leather jackets to butterfly 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: clips and bucket hats. Now, we went into Glasson's the 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: other day and literally remarked that all of the mannequins 12 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: look like the spy scales, and we felt so old 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: because we also spotted a pair of socks with our 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: birth year on it, which is nineteen eighty nine. For 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: the record, Well, it's safe to say that nineties beauty 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: trends have made a complete comeback, and I'm okay with 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: the overtly lined lips and the French manicures. However, I 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: think the fashion world is taking the piss when it 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: comes to the recent revival of skinny eyebrows. So Bella 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: had Did is leading the charge. She was photographed with 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: skinny brows recently on a red carpet. And I feel 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: for all of you who did pluck their eyebrows out 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: in the early nineties or the naughties, because I feel 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: like this is very disturbing news that is coming. We've 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: had enough bad news. This is just topping it off. 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: It is because people's eyebrows haven't even grown back since 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: the nineties. Yeah, there's people having eyebrow transplants, kind of 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: like what do you just abandon all? Hope? Hold on, 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 1: hold on. There is a little bit of comfort because 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: apparently this trend has been updated for twenty twenty two, 31 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: so it is being described as fresh, slightly more subtle, 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: and more wearable. So some experts have jumped ontle eyebrows. 33 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 1: Well yeah, but well if you think about okay, So 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: since Instagram and the start of YouTube becoming popular, I 35 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: feel like we've seen the Instagram brow and that's been 36 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: the very sought after look with people using you know, 37 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: pommeades and very having very blocky eyebrows. I've seen a 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: lot of influencers over the years do it very wrong, 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: and experts are saying that this new skinny eyebrows are 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: less about the nineties tweezing that we saw and waxing, 41 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: but it's really focused on sculpting and giving a more 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: natural shape. So apparently to achieve this new look, it 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: basically means easing up on heavily filling in your eyebrows 44 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: and avoiding that really blocky look, and you're instead supposed 45 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: to play up to the arches and creating a nice 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: tapered tail at the end of your eyebrow instead of 47 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: thinning it out like we used to do. See, I 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: could get around this because I feel like that's what 49 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: my eyebrows look like at the moment. I hate to 50 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: fill them in. So you're setting the trends there have 51 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: anything to do with the eyebrow lamination that we've been seeing, 52 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: because that is less blocky and more about letting each 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: of the strands flow upwards. Yeah. Well, actually, the part 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: of the new nineties revival is that the top part 55 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: of your eyebrow is supposed to be feathery like that, 56 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: So of course we're still being pushed by the beauty 57 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: industry that we need certain products. So instead of the 58 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: pomades and pencils, we're now being told we need to 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: buy gel, powder, wax, and serum. So there's still a 60 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: bit of a price tag on creating this nineties look. Well, 61 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: of course, also tweezers and regular bookings with your eyebrow lady. 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: Do you guys think that there are people in the 63 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 1: cosmetics industry who are just sitting around thinking about how 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: stupid we can possibly make our eyebrows look? Because every 65 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 1: new trend seems to be more and more ridiculous. Why 66 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: do I think it's about them sitting around thinking about 67 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: how stupid can we make people look? I think it's 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: more they're thinking, Okay, what's the next product we can 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: make people think that they need to invest a lot 70 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: of money in because if you're always having to transform yourself, 71 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: you always need a new product. But it's not really 72 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: about reinventing though, it's about stealing trends that were big 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: in other years. So, as you said, I think it's 74 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: a natural progression on from this massive nineties trends that 75 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: we have been seeing. What about Belahead, did do you 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: think that someone has gone to her like a stylist 77 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: and said, hey, I think you need to get onto 78 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: the skinny eyebrow trend and see if people copy you. 79 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: Or do you think she's just done it herself? One percent? 80 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: You want to be the first person, you want to 81 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: be the trendsetter, and that's what she is at the moment. 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: And I have to say I have had a look 83 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: and the eyebrows aren't as alarming as the usual nineties. 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: I feel like we're always going to be swayed. I mean, 85 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: last year we were saying we'd never not wear skinny jeans, 86 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: and we've all been wearing the straight legged jeans and 87 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: thinking they're pretty cool. So I'm sure maybe this time 88 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: next year we'll have the eyebrows. It was heavily plucked eyebrows. 89 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: I was trying to buy food for my cats at 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: the store and the cashier lady kept staring at me 91 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: and smirking and staring at me, and I thought, what's up. 92 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: That's what's up. I have lipstick marks all over my 93 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: face because my golfriend kisses me all over my face 94 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: and lets me walk around like this. 95 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: Australia's New Girl if influencing Sophia beg has led the 96 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: charge in boycotting Australian fashion brand White Fox Boutique. The 97 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: former brand ambassador revealed she's canceled her contract with the 98 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: multi million dollar brand after they were accused of copying 99 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: the designs of small Australian retailers. Now, so, how did 100 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: this social media takedown kickoff? 101 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: Well? 102 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: In mid February, social media influencers and small businesses took 103 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: to TikTok and Instagram to accuse White Fox Boutique of 104 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: coppying the designs of small Australian retailers. Many shared side 105 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: by side images of products which they say closely resemble 106 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: other Australian and international brands, including mister Winston and Dion Lee. Now. 107 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: Small business owner and micro influencer Isla Watson shared an 108 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: image of a blue mini skirt and crop top design 109 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: from her online retail brand Vesper dot Co alongside what 110 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: appeared to be an almost identical design from White Fox Boutique, 111 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: with the comment am I crazy or dot dot dot Now? 112 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: She's not the only influencer to jump on this. Another 113 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: influencer called Leanna Elizabeth said she had lost a collaboration 114 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: opportunity with the brand after she called them out for 115 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: their alleged copycat designs. She also posted a series of 116 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: images comparing White Fox boutiques designed to other brands and wrote, 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: white Fox does it again. She also urged other influences 118 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: to boycott the label and criticize those who still work 119 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: with them now. This backlash led Sophia Beg, famously known 120 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: online as Sofa Dofit, to boycott White Fox boutique as well. 121 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,119 Speaker 1: In a TikTok comment, she wrote, I no longer work 122 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: with this company. I think copying is awful now. As 123 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier, Sophia Beg is being touted as the 124 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: new it girl of the influencer world. She's only seventeen 125 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: years old and has eight hundred and seventy seven thousand 126 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: followers on TikTok and three hundred and nineteen thousand on Instagram. 127 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: Sophia started out in modeling and then she made her 128 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: mark as an influencer, sharing outfit inspiration and shopping halls. 129 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: Her followers love her fashion sense and she's very active 130 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: on TikTok, posting several times a day. So after, Sophia 131 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: commented that she had canceled her contract with White Fox 132 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: because of the design similarity. It led to the hashtag 133 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: white Fox canceled, and this has taken off on TikTok. 134 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: Many women started creating videos about wanting to donate their 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: White Fox ce clothing to charity shops and not wanting 136 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: to be seen in the heavily branded tops they just purchased. 137 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: It was really very reminiscent of when people were canceling 138 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 1: zep Activeweb and I think it is important to point 139 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: out that on the eighth of February, Sophia announced that 140 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: she was coming out with her own collaboration with Beginning Boutique, 141 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: who is obviously a huge rival of White Fox Boutique. 142 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: So it is interesting timing that she did put this 143 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: comment out there and seemingly boycott one of their competitors. 144 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: So we have discussed the divisive brand on the show before, 145 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: but just for any new listeners. Owner Georgia Moore and 146 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: Daniel Contest started White Fox Boutique in twenty thirteen. Now, 147 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: originally they started selling clothes on eBay, but the brand 148 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: is now worn by celebrities including the Kardashians, Hailey Bieber 149 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: and Emily Radatowski. Now they are reported to have generated 150 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: a forecasted net worth of six point three one million 151 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: dollars in just seven years, with the company attributing their 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: success largely to social media. Now we saw a lot 153 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: of that wealth shown in their RECs. There was a 154 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: lot of flowers and bling. It reminded me very much 155 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: of crazy rich Asians Now. In mid February, the Daily 156 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: Telegraph reported on claims of the copying and spoke to 157 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: Olivia Hitchens, who is a legal advisor to the Australian 158 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Retail Association Now. Olivia said that this copycat behavior is 159 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: a growing problem in the fashion sector and it is 160 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: not always unlawful because copyright laws only allow a limited 161 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: level of protection. She said that there is a lot 162 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: of misinformation about copyright in respect of fashion, so many 163 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,239 Speaker 1: people don't actually realize that when fashion designs are reproduced 164 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: in a commercial quantity, copyright of the original design is 165 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: lost and the owner needs to have registered a design 166 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: in order to have any sort of protection. However, even 167 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: if a design is registered with enough alteration, a copycat 168 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: can still release a very similar item. So legally it 169 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: doesn't appear that White Fox Boutique has done anything wrong, 170 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: But in my opinion, morally, I don't think it is 171 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: the right thing for big brands to do. Yeah. Well, 172 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: as you said, so, it seems like a real loophole, 173 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah, that's right. And The Daily Telegraph did 174 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: approach White Fox Boutique for a statement and they responded 175 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: saying White Fox takes intellectual property and the allegations in 176 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: your email very seriously. As these matters have been referred 177 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: to our lawyers, we are not in a position to comment. 178 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: That's an interesting comment back from White Fox Boutique because 179 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: they haven't flat out denied copying. Well, it sounds like 180 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: they could also possibly be pursuing legal action against some 181 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: of the influencers or business owners who have been making 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: these claims about them. Well, to be fair, when you 183 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: did read out the rules, it seems like they are 184 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: within the rules and while it might not be morally 185 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 1: the right thing to do, they haven't actually legally done 186 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: anything wrong. It is important to point out that White 187 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: Fox isn't the only brand who has been accused of 188 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: copying smaller businesses. There are a number of high end 189 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: brands who have also been accused of such. Yeah, and 190 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: just speaking broadly here, the really sad thing is that 191 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: when a larger brand copies someone's designs. It can really 192 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: undermine the profitability of a smaller business, and that business 193 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: is spending time, energy, and also investing their talent to 194 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: produce something that's really unique and special to that brand, 195 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: only to have it ripped off by a larger company 196 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: who can then sell it at a cheaper cost and 197 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: then pump out stock faster like there's just no competition. 198 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: If someone does actually take your standout design, well, is 199 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: this a case of punishing the big brands that do 200 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: it or looking at changing the law because it doesn't 201 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: really seem like a fair law if this is allowed 202 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: to go on. What do you guys think about Sophia 203 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: calling White Fox out, because that's a pretty ballsy move 204 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: by a seventeen year old who is relatively new to Instagram. 205 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: It blows my mind that she is only seventeen years old. 206 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: As you mentioned earlier, Amy, she is just on fire 207 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: on TikTok. She puts out about ten videos a day 208 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: on there, and I do think it is a really 209 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: ballsy move to do so, to call out such a 210 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: large brand that you have worked with. But I do 211 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: think it's quite interesting that she has a backup of 212 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: working with Beginning Boutique. Yeah, but maybe Beginning Boutique reached 213 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: out after seeing her call out White Fault. No, I 214 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 1: think she had been working in the background with them 215 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: for quite some time. Well, don't you think it's quite 216 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: clear that she can read the room very well? Because 217 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: I feel like so many of her followers would be 218 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: loving this, like she's getting so much clout for actually 219 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: saying what everyone has been thinking and having the balls 220 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: to do it. I think it's fantastic and I'm really 221 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing how her influencing career grows. I 222 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: know that celeb Spelchek said that she was the next 223 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: big up and coming Australian influencer, so I'm sure we'll 224 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: be talking a lot more about her on upcoming shows. 225 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: I saw these shoes back one for such a long time. 226 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: They are twelve hundred dollars. They are so fucking ugly 227 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: that they look cute. 228 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: TikToker. Anna Paul revealed that she accidentally spent six five 229 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: hundred dollars on a handbag while shopping in London last week. Now, 230 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: since travel bands have been lifted, Ana has been doing 231 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: daily vlogs of her travels around America, Europe, and the 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Middle East, and I have been she come so hooked 233 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: on these videos. She's actually becoming one of my favorite 234 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: influencers because even though she's got so much money and 235 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: no to rioting, I can't really relate to her lifestyle 236 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: at all. She still manages to come across as really 237 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: down to earth and likable and I just love it. 238 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: They're always eating the most unique and delicious food. I 239 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: do enjoy her tiktoks as well. I actually didn't expect 240 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: you to say, Sophie, that she is possibly becoming your 241 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: new favorite influence, new influencer, I need to find someone 242 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: to watch that's not terribly problematic now. In this recent video, 243 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: Anna gave her followers the low down on her most 244 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: recent shopping spree in London. She said, while shopping with 245 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: her boyfriend Glenn, she decided that she would buy herself 246 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: a couple of holiday gifts so she could say that 247 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: she got them from London and it would be a 248 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: special memory. Now first on the list with these Prata sunglasses. 249 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: And to set the scene, Amy, the sunglasses in question 250 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: look like ski goggles with floral yellow around the rooms 251 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: and arms of the glasses. They were quite a moment 252 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: this sounds very nineties. I feel like we're very nineties now. 253 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: She also purchased a pair of twelve hundred dollar designer 254 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: shoes that she'd waited a long time to buy. Now 255 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: she thought after that she was done, she wouldn't buy 256 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: anything else. But she went past a store called Chrome 257 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: Hearts where she purchased a hat from before, and she 258 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: said that the hat that she purchased was around two 259 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars, And she acknowledged that, you know, 260 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: that is quite expensive for a hat, but when you 261 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: compare it to designer brands like being Balenciaga, which charged 262 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars for a hat, it was kind of 263 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: an average, reasonably priced brandy. When you're getting paid what 264 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: maybe twenty thousand dollars a post, it's pretty cheap for 265 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: a hat. Yeah. So she said that while she was 266 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: shopping there, she spotted a leather bum bag which had 267 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: brightly colored crosses on it, and assumed that the bum 268 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: bag was around five hundred dollars, and she thought, fuck it, 269 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to buy it. So she gave her boyfriend 270 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: Glenn her credit card and asked him to go to 271 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: the counter while she looked around for some more stuff. Now, 272 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: Hannah then went over to Glenn at the counter, and 273 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: he asked her whether she had enough money on the card, 274 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: and she thought that was a pretty odd question. Why 275 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: would he ask her that. Glenn then said, by the way, Anna, 276 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: do you realize that that bag is six thousand, five 277 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: hundred dollars? She's like, no, it's not so hundred dollars 278 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: already he had already paid for the bag. He just tapped, 279 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: he tapped the card. Now, this exchange was happening while 280 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: the store worker was presumably wrapping the bag, and and 281 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: I said that she felt embarrassed. So she tried to 282 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: act like it was really cool and pretend that it 283 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal that she'd bought a six thousand, 284 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: five hundred dollar bag. But when they left, she yelled 285 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: at Glenn and said, why didn't you tell me before 286 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: you clicked on the cart? I feel like I've got 287 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: to throw to a grab of what the reaction was. 288 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: So we left, and I was like, why didn't you 289 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: tell me? You saw six thousand, five hundred dollars on 290 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: the card machine and you were like peep, He said, 291 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: I thought you knew the price Why would I spend 292 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: six thousand, five hundred dollars on a little. 293 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 4: Fucking bump bag and a fucking transaction approved it's gone through, 294 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 4: So I guess I have to live with now, and 295 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to start checking the. 296 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: Press before I just assume how much something costs like 297 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: an idiot. 298 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 3: I love it. 299 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: I'm grateful, but fuck, I can't believe it. 300 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 3: I can't believe it. 301 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: See, in this instance, I'm actually on Glenn's side because 302 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: if she is on this shopping spree him, I just 303 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: assume this is how much she wants to spend. This 304 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: is her money. Not to question her, yeah, exactly, not 305 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: to question her spending. I definitely can't see Brandon not 306 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: alerting me to this. But then again, I don't often 307 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: make six thousand, five hundred dollars purchase. My god, I 308 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: think they would die if I bought a six thousand, 309 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: five hundred dollar bag. Well, that's the thing. She's been 310 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: so generous on this trip. So she previously flew her 311 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: mum down to Dubai for a mum's birthday, and in 312 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: quite a few of the vlogs she's told her mum, 313 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: go into the store and buy everything you want. From there, 314 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: so they went into Sephora and the mum had this 315 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: basket filled with so many things, So, I mean, I 316 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: can see them being a little bit loose with the 317 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: credit card. Have you been in that situation before where 318 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: you've gone up to pay for something and it's more 319 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: than you thought it was going to be and you've 320 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: just gone okay because you're so embarrassed. When I was 321 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: writing up this topic, it reminded me of yesterday when 322 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: we went to the shops because Maya had this big 323 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: sale and there were items that were fifty percent off 324 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: and I don't want to give it away, but we 325 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: bought something for Kate's birthday and I don't want to 326 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: give it away Kate, but it was a large item, 327 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: so we paid for it, and then we spotted something 328 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: else that we wanted to get, so we lined up 329 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: at the counter again, and because the item was so big, 330 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't wrapped or it wasn't in a bag or anything. 331 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: So I'm standing there and then I'm suddenly thinking I 332 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: don't want to get charged again for this thing. I 333 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: know you said. You turned to me and You're like, 334 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk away just in case they charged me. Again, 335 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: I said, so, you have a receipt, but we're gonna 336 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: be so nervous that you're gonna end up paying twice 337 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: for this item. Well, we were joking because it was 338 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: half priced. We would almost just pay full us to 339 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: avoid the awkwardness, so I wouldn't. I kind of see 340 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: why Anna didn't say something, because once the item has 341 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: gone through you kind of lose a bit of face 342 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: if you like, actually see if it was that much, 343 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: I would have been like, I'm so sorry. I thought 344 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: it was one five hundred six thousand, five undred. She's 345 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: what I'm incredibly envious of the fact that she doesn't 346 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: even have to look at the price tags, that she 347 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: goes shopping so often that she just goes by feel 348 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: of what something costs. That's the thing I feel like, 349 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: if you're in high end stores, they don't actually have 350 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: the price up and that's where they get you. Yeah. 351 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: Hey, everyone, it's Stephanie, your favorite selling mogul. I can 352 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 4: definitely say, at this point in my life with confidence 353 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 4: that I am the world's most successful. 354 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: Jar fart seller number one, So I am really proud 355 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: of that. Move Over, Anna poul and Molly May, there's 356 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: a new breed of influencer that's taking the world by storm, 357 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: dubbed far influencers. This is a new generation of entrepreneur 358 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: or social media stars that don't need to rely on 359 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: fast fashion brands to make a quick buck. They're changing 360 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 1: the influencers space one fart at a time, Amy, can 361 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: you tell us more? Well, that's right, Sophie. So us 362 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: twitch stream at Caitlin Seragusa, and I really hope I'm 363 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: pronouncing that right, because this is actually the first time 364 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: I've heard of this influencer. She announced she's selling jars 365 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: containing her farts as well as containers filled with her bathwater. 366 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: So Caitlyn is well known for her ASMR streams on Twitch, 367 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: and she's also famous for streaming herself playing video games 368 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: in a hot tub. So she posts content on YouTube, 369 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: Twitch and only fans. So how much does a fart 370 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: jar and her bathwater actually cost someone? Well, Sophie, if 371 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: you're interested in purchase, no, I'm not. I'd put it 372 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: out I'm not interested in purchasing one. So it costs 373 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: a whopping nine hundred and ninety nine dollars and ninety 374 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: nine cents. That's good advertising there. So it's a grand 375 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: so it's one thousand dollars for the fart jar and 376 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: the bathwater is quite considerably cheaper. It's ninety nine ninety nine. 377 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm surprised there's such a disparity between the costs of 378 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: a fart jar and bath water. I know, I don't, 379 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Maybe it's I suppose it's more 380 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 1: labor intensive to create the fart jars, but Caitlyn already 381 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: makes one point four million dollars per month thanks to 382 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: all her social media endeavors, so she is set to 383 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: make a lot more money if these fart jars go off. Now, 384 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: whilst there is one corner of the Internet that seemed 385 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: to have respect for this side hustle, there are a 386 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: large majority that were shocked the people would even paid 387 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: that much to buy her farts and bathroom. Yeah, it 388 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: was quite funny because a lot of people jumped on 389 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: Twitter and they pretended that they'd purchased the fart jars, 390 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: so they posted these fake receipts. So it's unclear how 391 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: many jars and containers of water have actually been sold. 392 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: But I do remember hearing about Belle Delphin, who's another gamer, 393 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: and she made it reported ten million pounds after selling 394 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: her bathwater online. So it's clearly a lucrative market. And 395 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: it was hilarious because there were all these youtubes that 396 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: popped up of people drinking the bathwater. Because my first 397 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: thought was actually feel sick over there, I know, I 398 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: was thinking, what do people actually do with this stuff? 399 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: That's disgusting? Now, the fart jar idea appears to have 400 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: been copied from Stephanie Matto, who shot to notoriety on 401 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: Nine Day Fiance Now. Stephanie began selling fart jars after 402 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: she received countless messages from men saying they wish they 403 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: could smell her farts. Now now, she decided to see 404 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: if they'd put their money where their mouth was, and 405 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: it turned out that a lot of people weren't joking. 406 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: She made over two hundred thousand dollars selling these fart 407 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: jars online. Now she sold hers for fifty dollars a 408 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: jar instead of the one k, so god, she sold 409 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: a lot of them, I know. And this is where 410 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: her story turns even more unbelievable. Sophie, So, this poor 411 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: girl ended up in hospital. She thought she was having 412 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: a heart attack, only to discover it was her diet, 413 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: which was, so she was consuming lots of beans, lots 414 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: of protein shakes, muffins, hard boiled eggs to produce the 415 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: level of farts it required to fill those jars. What 416 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: is stopping people from just pretending that they fared in 417 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: the jar? Only she's gone to the effort to actually 418 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: do it. That she's got herself so unwell, well, you 419 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: can actually imagine just what they would smell like with 420 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: that combination of food. It's disgusting. So she genuinely farted 421 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: in each jar and she's only stopped now because of doctors' orders. 422 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: They said, you need to stop eating this diet, and 423 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: they actually prescribed her with a gas suppressor. Can you 424 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: imagine the look on the doctor's face. I would think 425 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: this was not serious, And I actually cannot believe there 426 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: was a conversation of sorts. Now, Stephanie has moved into 427 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: the NFT space and she's selling digital fart jar artwork. 428 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: So can we dispatch it? What is the NFT space? 429 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: I have no idea about this world. Well, an NFT 430 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: is basically like, if you bore a fart jar digital image, 431 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: you own the rights to that image. That's what an 432 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: NFT is. Oh my god, is there not anything better 433 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: we can be selling online than this stuff? Well, the 434 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: thing is so for years people have been selling socks 435 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: and underwear online, so I'm not actually surprised that people 436 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: are now selling fart jars. I do think at the 437 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: end of the day, though these women are very, very clever. 438 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: They're clearly making a lot of money of selling their 439 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: own farts, and I think I'm more judged men on 440 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: the people who are spending one thousand dollars in a fight. Dore, 441 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: If I'm being honest, do you actually. 442 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 3: Think if I'm in labor, I'm going to be on 443 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 3: my dms, I'm replying to someone I don't know, like, 444 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 3: do people actually expect her response? 445 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has shocked followers in a series of disturbing videos, 446 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: including one where she mocked supporting flood victims. The former 447 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: Big Brother contestant swiftly deleted the videos after presumably receiving 448 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: backclash Kate, can you tell us more? 449 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 450 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: So. In the early hours of Sunday morning, Sky Wheatley 451 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: took to her Instagram story to share her frustration. Now 452 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: it's not quite clear what she was actually frustrated about, 453 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: but piecing it together it appears that she was in 454 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: attendance at a caravan park and there were some people 455 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: there that were judging her about drinking. Because she spoke 456 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: a lot about how she feels so much judgment now 457 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: that she's a mum and that she's not allowed to 458 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: get drunk anymore. She went on to say that she 459 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: doesn't give a fuck what people think about her on 460 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: social media as well. Now in the video, it appears 461 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: she was heavily intoxicated, as her speech was slurred and 462 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: she kept uncontrollably giggling. Now in the footage, she kept 463 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: smashing her hand and other items like a raiser against 464 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: the phone, and it did remind me of when Lily 465 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: Brown used to do it as a joke all the time. 466 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Now in the video, she referred to the occasion as 467 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: her Britney Spears moment, and she said she knows how 468 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: Brittany must feel. The majority of Sky's stories took place 469 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: in her bathroom, including her filming herself urinating in the toilet, 470 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: which you could actually hear on the audio. She also 471 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: showed the camera the toilet paper before she wiped herself, 472 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: and she kept referring that her mum was going to 473 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: tell her to delete the stories, which I mean, I 474 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: feel like it's pretty obvious why she would want them gone. 475 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: I found the whole video very disturbing, particularly when she 476 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: showed her son Forrest crying and looking scared. But I 477 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: would actually say arguably the lowest point in the video 478 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: was when she referenced Australia's flood victims. So can you 479 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: tell us what she said? Well, I think it is 480 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: best to throw to a clip of what she said, 481 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: because it's more in the delivery, not so much what 482 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: she said. 483 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 4: Anyway, I hope we're were raising money to support the 484 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: flood victims, because that you do really pardon that we 485 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 4: were raised wanting for the floods, you know what I mean, 486 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 4: if you haven't done anything. 487 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: I think it goes without saying that this video was 488 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: extremely offensive to the flood victims, and to be honest, 489 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: it made me feel really sick. I think the thing 490 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: that was the most disturbing was hearing her children crying 491 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: in the background, particularly considering the state she was in. 492 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: The thing is I was in two minds whether to 493 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: discuss this topic because it's not really clear what is 494 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: going on with Sky. I feel like we need to 495 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: address that because many people are commenting that it could 496 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: be a mental health breakdown unfolding on Instagram. Obviously, it's 497 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: not up to us to comment on whether that is 498 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: the case because we are in no means experts in 499 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: the field. But what I do know is this is 500 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: not the first time Sky has shocked her followers with 501 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: controversial comments. However, this time it's very clear that she 502 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: was not in the right headspace, so it's pretty alarming. 503 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: That's why I feel like I don't know whether we 504 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: can discuss her comments and condemn them because it was 505 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: quite clear that she was heavily intoxicated and this could 506 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: be a massive cry for help. It was really sad, 507 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: that's the first thing I thought when I saw the videos. Wow, 508 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: this is really sad, and I hope that Sky is okay. 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