1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily Ours. Today is Tuesday, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: the seventeenth of August. I'm Zara Sidler and I'm joined 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: by Sam Koslowski. Before we start off, there is not 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: a lot of good news out there today. We're not 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: going to sugar coated, so if you do need to 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: chat to someone or log off, please do so. There 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: is always someone available to talk to and the news 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: will be here. 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 2: When you get We put up some resources on our 10 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: Instagram a few days ago. Please be kind to yourself. 11 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Today in the news, we're going to look at the 12 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: latest in COVID nineteen around Australia and then take you 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: to what is going on in Afghanistan where the capital 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: Kabul has fallen to Taliban forces. But we really wanted 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: to slow down and explain some of the historical contexts 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: that's at play here. 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: So straight to New South Wales. Yesterday was the worst 18 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: day of the pandemic for the state, with New South 19 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Wales recording four hundred and seventy eight locally acquired cases. 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: We know that at least sixty one of those cases 21 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: were infectious in the community, but many hundred romaine under investigation. Tragically, 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: there were also eight deaths reported, and here's what the 23 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: Premier said about the rise in cases yesterday. 24 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: Our community transmission numbers are disturbingly high. We had four 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy eight cases of community transmission to eight 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 3: pm last night, and we can't stress enough how hard 27 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: all of us have to work to reduce these numbers, 28 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: to reduce the growth of the spread, and to make 29 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: sure we're all staying home unless we absolutely have to 30 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 3: do otherwise. 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, unfortunately not much better news for Victoria, though they 32 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: did have lower case numbers twenty two yesterday, with seventeen 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: of those linked to a known cluster. The lockdown for 34 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: Melbourne was extended by a further two weeks as a result, 35 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: with tighter restrictions including a curfew restrictions on playgrounds and 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: exercise in place during this time. So now the new 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: date for the Melbourne lockdown to end is eleven fifty 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: nine on Thursday September second, which coincident sam is the 39 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: same day as the Act's lockdown is meant to lift. 40 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 2: That comes after ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr announced a 41 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: two week extension, So it's nice that there's at least 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: some sinking up in the lockdowns there because the Chief 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 2: Ministers and premiers don't really manage to schedule their press 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 2: conferences at the right times. However, the Chief Minister said 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 2: he wasn't surprised that there was a spike in cases. 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 3: And it demonstrates that the virus is active in our community. 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: We have been expecting this though, and we will continue 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: to see more cases in the coming days. 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in the top ends, the Northern Territory recorded one 50 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: new case of COVID nineteen yesterday, with Darwin and the 51 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: Catherine Region entering a three day lockdown that midday yesterday. 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: Just to recap there, we've now got lockdowns in Melbourne, 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: the Act, the whole of New South Wales and parts 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: of the Northern Territory. 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: Yesterday, all anyone was talking about was Afghanistan, and we'll 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: go into a bit later why that is. But yesterday Kabul, 57 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: which is the capital of Afghanistan, fell to Taliban forces 58 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: and they now control most of the country. The invasion 59 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: of the capital did signal the collapse of Afghanistan's Western 60 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: backed government, and the president, Ashraf Ghani, has actually already 61 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: fled the country. That was yesterday morning. Taliban fighters have 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: seized the presidential palace, and many fear that the Taliban 63 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: will return to a strict implementation of sharia law. 64 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: Before we go deeper into that story, let's find a 65 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: little bit of good news in the news today. People 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: over the age of sixteen in Western Australia can now 67 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: get the PISI COVID nineteen vaccine. The expanded eligibility criteria 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: means more than two million Western Australians aged over sixteen 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: years can be vaccinated in WA health clinics. They now 70 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: joined South Australia as the only two states where you 71 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: can get PISA from that age. There's kind of two 72 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: timelines to think about when discussing the conflict in Afghanistan. 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 2: What has happened in the last couple of days and 74 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: what has happened over the last two decades, And each 75 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: timeline is equally important to understand, but without understanding one, 76 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: you can't really understand the other. So what we thought 77 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: would be helpful today we know that you've read stuff 78 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: online about what's happening there. We thought it would be 79 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: helpful to quickly run through both these timelines so you 80 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: can get a sense of where these events fit in 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: the big scheme of things. So let's go to the background. First. 82 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: The war in Afghanistan started over twenty years ago. So 83 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: following nine to eleven the terrorist attacks on the World 84 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: Trade Center in New York City, the US accused the 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: Taliban of providing refuge to Issama bin Laden and al Qaeda. 86 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: This is actually a really important point that gets overlooked. 87 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 2: The Taliban and al Qaeda are not the same body. 88 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: So by December of that year, three months after the attacks, 89 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: the US had removed the Taliban from power in Afghanistan. 90 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: They then spent the next twenty years replacing the government 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: with a Western run, democratically elected government in Afghanistan, and 92 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: the US and their allies, including of course Australia, it 93 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 2: was their job to arm security forces in Afghanistan with 94 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: the tools that they needed to self govern. The aim 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: was never for the US to stay there forever. 96 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: And it's this whole idea of nation building. If you 97 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: go to university and study anything remotely to do with politics, 98 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: you always learn about nation building, and Afghanistan and Iraq 99 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: are always used as the examples here of what US 100 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: led nation building looks like. Here it has gone drastically, 101 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 1: drastically wrong. 102 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: And this is where different versions of a successful mission 103 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: in Afghanistan come into play. Here's what US Secretary of 104 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: State Anthony Blincoln said about the US's success in the 105 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 2: Middle East. 106 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: We went to Afghanistan twenty years ago with one mission 107 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: in mind, and that was the deal with the people 108 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: who attacked us on nine to eleven. 109 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: And that mission has been successful. 110 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: It was on the back of this sentiment that the 111 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: US decided to fully withdraw troops from Afghanistan by the 112 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: AIM's date of September eleventh, twenty two. One. Of course, 113 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: it's the twentieth anniversary of the hijackings at the World 114 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: Trade Center, But actually, in reality, US President Biden withdrew 115 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: most US troops before that. The process started in about May. 116 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: He said he wanted to end the US investment in 117 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: the Middle East as quick as possible. 118 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: And it's with this withdrawal that we have seen a vacuum, 119 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and that power vacuum has been very very quickly filled 120 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: by the Taliban. So the US and its allies hopes 121 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: of building capacity among the Afghan community to maintain governance 122 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: and military prowess once US troops withdrew has not come 123 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: to fruition at all. Instead, we're looking at images like 124 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: we posted on Instagram yesterday of people flocking to the 125 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: airport trying to get out of the country desperately before 126 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: the Taliban take complete ownership over the country. 127 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: And just to join a few dots here for everyone. 128 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: The fear on the ground in Afghanistan is that the 129 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: Taliban's rule will be brutal and that there is a 130 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: genuine fear of life. So you're going to be here 131 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: a lot in the coming weeks and months about the 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: refugee crisis that will result from this invasion by the Taliban. 133 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: One of the really complicated dynamics at play here is 134 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: that a lot of Afghans who helped US Australian, Canadian, 135 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: British troops on the ground in the last two decades 136 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,559 Speaker 2: were promised a safe passage to another country in times 137 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: of need. So there's actually an obligation now on US 138 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Special Forces Australian Special Forces to withdraw Afghans on the 139 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: ground who have helped them, whether they be translators, cooks 140 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: or local staff. 141 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: And that's exactly right. That's clearly where our government's focus 142 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: is lying currently. Scott Morrison has said that his government 143 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: is doing everything that they can, including sending troops over 144 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: to safely rescue all those people who had helped Australian 145 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: troops while they had been in Afghanistan, and some fear 146 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: that this rescue mission is happening too late. 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: To give you a sense of the chaos on the 148 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: ground at the moment, the Australian government is reportedly trying 149 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: to negotiate a landing spot at Kabul Airport in order 150 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 2: to land the RAAF aircraft that will hopefully rescue hundreds 151 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 2: of Australian citizens, their family members, and Afghan allies on 152 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: the ground. 153 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: While the Australian government's efforts are focused on those people 154 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: who have helped Australian troops, there is an entire country 155 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: waking up to a new reality today, and that is 156 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: especially poignant for the women and children of Afghanistan who 157 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: are looking at a very different reality where their rights 158 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: are not ensured. The Guardian is doing an incredible series 159 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: on this at the moment, I would really recommend finding 160 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: it and reading it. There are Afghan women writing every 161 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: day about what their experiences of being a raised from 162 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: the Afghan narrative looks like. It's an extremely powerful way 163 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: to understand what's happening on the ground there. I would 164 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: really recommend it. 165 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to speed with how the rescue 166 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: mission goes and the general events that are happening across 167 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: the entire country. It's a really important story to keep 168 00:08:58,520 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: on top of. 169 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: Well. 170 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: For today, though, look after yourselves. We'll have all the 171 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: COVID data throughout the day over on our Instagram, and 172 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: we'll speak to you tomorrow.