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Speaker 1: Jumb mission with Jones and Demand. Everyone has been very

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Speaker 1: taken with the commentating style of one in Thorpe who

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Speaker 1: joins us. Now, hey Thorpe, how are you?

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Speaker 2: Good morning? I'm well, how are you going?

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Speaker 3: What about you? When you make Petuda Advocate in a

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Speaker 3: good ways? And the Petuda Advocate headline was my mum says,

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Speaker 3: just leave the commentary to Thorpy. Thanks Basil, you know

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Speaker 3: you've made it.

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Speaker 2: Nomber, I'm a big fan of the Patuda Advocate, Australia's

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Speaker 2: oldest newspaper.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're so right, and you were doing a fantastic

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Speaker 1: job and you have such insights into to what everyone's

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Speaker 1: going through. One of the things you were describing yesterday,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was really interesting, is how the relay

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Speaker 1: is put together. I know that the women's four by

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Speaker 1: two hundred free style we were hoping to get gold.

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Speaker 1: That didn't happen, and most of us didn't understand why

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Speaker 1: the four that were in the final in the lead

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Speaker 1: up to it and the heats weren't the four that

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Speaker 1: that as swimmers, you don't even know what all are

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Speaker 2: To be in? But we don't find out until the

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Speaker 2: last moment, So you have to submit what your relay

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Speaker 2: So that's the rule. So we don't know who's going

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Speaker 2: to work out what is the relay coach and head

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Speaker 2: I think Arnie was put in the first position. When

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Speaker 2: and then Emma McCann was to have a lead on

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Speaker 2: combine all of the individual swims in that relay. But

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Speaker 2: that didn't happen. And Arianne, you know, emotionally physically, you know,

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Speaker 2: she's quite dreat Imagine, you know, fulfilling your kind of

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Speaker 2: it all just kind of just hits you what's happened.

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Speaker 2: So it was it was an interesting selection but we

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Speaker 2: also don't have all of the information to be able

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Speaker 2: were someone else was sick, wasn't swimming well, Well, we

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Speaker 2: don't know that, so that would be speculation.

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Speaker 3: Is it better go first or last?

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Speaker 2: I like last, it's more responsibility. But I always ask

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Speaker 2: used to never get it. I was so the four

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Speaker 2: Bay one in Sydney, the guys asked me, is there

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Speaker 2: anything that we can do to help you, because you've

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Speaker 2: And i'mlike, I'm up against the fastest swimming you know that,

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Speaker 2: And I've just swap be four hundred. So it's it's

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Speaker 2: I prefer I prefer going last in a real life.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel watching it? Do you do all

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Speaker 1: the excitement, the adrenaline, the anxiety. Are you real living

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Speaker 2: I don't I feel it. I get nervous for the athletes,

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Speaker 2: a lot when I'm commentating, and it's kind of I'm

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Speaker 3: And men and women swimming in a medley? What about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? First time ever? I think was seeing that.

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Speaker 2: Aren't we first time ever? So we've got we have

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Speaker 2: it's an event that should benefit us because often you

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Speaker 2: can field it benefits smaller countries, and that was part

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Speaker 1: What do you mean it benefits smaller countries? How does

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Speaker 2: So when we look at the US team, there's a

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Speaker 3: And what about you as far as commentating go, You've

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Speaker 3: you've done so well with this are we're going to

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Speaker 3: see you commentating on other sports?

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Speaker 2: On other sports I had before. I actually I did

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Speaker 2: commentary in India for the Real Olympics and it was

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Speaker 2: up becoming quite good at hockey commentary. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why it was hockey, but I ended up being hockey.

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Speaker 2: I was talking about three D s girls and all

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Speaker 2: these things that I'd never heard of, you know a

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Speaker 3: Sure, Well, everyone that watches the Olympics becomes an instant experts.

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Speaker 1: Ask me about the archery.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you ask me about canoeing. I can tell

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Speaker 3: you everything you need to know about it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about the change in the shooting room? Do

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Speaker 2: you think that that's actually improved the sport or not?

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Speaker 3: Amanda, Oh look at the time, we're perfect for this.

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Speaker 3: Thought you're doing such a great job. We love watching

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Speaker 3: you on the Olympics Tokyo twenty twenty live and free

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Speaker 3: on seven and seven plus, the early place to see

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Speaker 3: it all, and thought, thank

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Speaker 2: You wonderful, Thanks guys, Thanks Ian Jonesy and Amanda's Nation