Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week. They're right. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back to TV Reload. I would like to thank
Speaker 1: you for clicking and downloading on today's episode with Reggie
Speaker 1: from the latest series of I'm a Celebrity, Get Me
Speaker 1: out of Here, which was on Network ten. I didn't
Speaker 1: even need to say her last name, as people often
Speaker 1: get that wrong anyway, but I think because she's kind
Speaker 1: of like Madonna at this point, no last name required.
Speaker 1: Reggie and I met before I did Big Brother, and
Speaker 1: in a chance meeting, I got some advice on applying
Speaker 1: for the show. After I came out of my experience,
Speaker 1: Reggie and I met for a drink and we have
Speaker 1: been making time for one another ever since. I absolutely
Speaker 1: feel privileged to call her my friend, and over the
Speaker 1: years I've been able to learn so much from her
Speaker 1: and her wisdom. The fact that Reggie was on I'm
Speaker 1: a Celebrity was a complete joy to me. I knew
Speaker 1: she would do well, I knew how much she wanted
Speaker 1: to do it, but I also knew I would have
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to her about all of her
Speaker 1: experience on this podcast. A debrief that let's be on
Speaker 1: sounds like us normally talking on the telephone. Reggie will
Speaker 1: talk about her being asked to do the show and
Speaker 1: what the I'm a Celebrity experience was like versus her expectations.
Speaker 1: Reggie will share what the reaction has been online after
Speaker 1: she came out of the jungle and what advice Hughsey
Speaker 1: gave her about the trolls. I find out about the
Speaker 1: dynamics between some of the cast in the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five series, and Reggie talks about a mishap that involves
Speaker 1: Mattie Jay that I'm sure that you are going to
Speaker 1: piss yourself laughing. You will get everything from her recent
Speaker 1: marriage rumors if she has signed to be a part
Speaker 1: of the upcoming reboot of Big Brother on Network ten,
Speaker 1: and I will find out what she thinks of our
Speaker 1: bestie farmer Dave following in her footsteps in the jungle
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six. There's actually so much to talk about,
Speaker 1: with so many inside revelations from our friend Reggie, So
Speaker 1: sit back and relax as we unpack the wonderful world
Speaker 1: if I'm a Celebrity, which guys, I'm sure you're really
Speaker 1: gonna love We've got to get into this because I've
Speaker 1: been excited to catch up with you. I have so
Speaker 1: many questions. I'd say, I just feel so proud of
Speaker 1: you because it was something that you had wanted to do.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a bucket listing for you, right.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've always wanted to go on the show, and
Speaker 2: I was always like, oh, they're never going to put
Speaker 2: me in there, and yeah, and then when I got
Speaker 2: that Carle, I just could not believe it. What the
Speaker 2: hell is just happened? I'm being asked to go on
Speaker 2: I'm a celebrity, Like it was just to pinch me moment.
Speaker 1: Who put the phone call in? Who made the call?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was someone at Channel ten that contacted me
Speaker 2: and asked me to go yeah into the show.
Speaker 1: So they straight away said to you, we want you
Speaker 1: to do the show. Or were they saying they were
Speaker 1: shortlisting you? Or what happened?
Speaker 2: So, first of when I received a text message and
Speaker 2: then I rang the lady back and she was asking
Speaker 2: me would I be interested? And she was asking me
Speaker 2: if I'm working all all stuff about my life and
Speaker 2: I said, look, no, I'm not working. And then she
Speaker 2: was saying, oh, would you be available in January. I said, yes,
Speaker 2: I'll be available because I'm not working the one kind. Yeah,
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. And then then they I
Speaker 2: think they had to go and do all their meetings
Speaker 2: with who's headed Channel ten Garvey.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they take that back and they have to pitch
Speaker 1: everyone she has to see yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's all that process. And then yeah, pretty
Speaker 2: much stroke lot because they wanted me to go in there,
Speaker 2: so I was the go. Then you know, the next
Speaker 2: part's about well, you know, how much money they're going
Speaker 2: to pay and all that kind of stuff, and it
Speaker 2: wasn't very much. But I'm reading all about all these
Speaker 2: false stories saying I got paid a lot of moneyed
Speaker 2: to go into the show, and a lot of them like,
Speaker 2: oh I wish, But anyway, I would have done it regardless, Ben,
Speaker 2: because I've just you know, I was a massive fan
Speaker 2: of the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: About three different figures that I saw you being paid.
Speaker 1: One was really high, it was ridiculous, one was sort
Speaker 1: of middle of the range, and one was too low.
Speaker 2: Oh dear. And even the stories like last week in
Speaker 2: the Woman's stae magazine, like I was walking past the
Speaker 2: news agency in Paradise Points and ripped just the guy
Speaker 2: who works and there he goes, Reggie, come here, and
Speaker 2: I said what and he goes, you're in the woman's
Speaker 2: day and I'd say what for and he goes, apparently
Speaker 2: you're getting married to Phil and I went, what it's like. No,
Speaker 2: I had to ring him and tell him and screenshot, Well,
Speaker 2: apparently apparently we're getting married. This has been my third
Speaker 2: marriage and his first marriage broke down. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: Bill has never been married, He's never going to get married.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, where do they come up with all
Speaker 2: this stuff? It was crazy? And then they were saying
Speaker 2: that I've got a job on Big Brother. I did
Speaker 2: a big deal with Channel ten and I wish, I
Speaker 2: wish that bit was true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, just because the story was that you were
Speaker 1: co hosting the new Big Brother with Meltrosina, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking about how long it would take for
Speaker 1: Meltrosina to walk you on stage because you can't really see,
Speaker 1: like they'll just play some Big Brother theme music in
Speaker 1: the background while they get you out there.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd love to get a job doing anything with
Speaker 2: Big Brother coming back. So you know, a good news,
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: Then as I say, well, I guess you can't take
Speaker 1: it very seriously. I mean, I don't know if people
Speaker 1: take it seriously anymore?
Speaker 2: Do Do they like the comments? Like the comments on
Speaker 2: the Woman's Day page on the Facebook page, We're just brutal,
Speaker 2: absolutely brutal, Like she's a gold digger, he's a five
Speaker 2: fay worker, She's going to take all his money. It's
Speaker 2: just oh yeah, yeah, just horrible.
Speaker 1: Over the years, though, I reckon that you're the most
Speaker 1: highly speculated Big Brother housemate that we've ever had. Like people, yeah,
Speaker 1: for two decades and more, have created these false narratives
Speaker 1: out there because I think you've stayed in the zeclass.
Speaker 1: Like I guess that's why I need to picked you
Speaker 1: for I'm a celebrity, because you get headlines written about
Speaker 1: you all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and at the moment, like because I'm copying a
Speaker 2: lot of the trolls about me being on the show
Speaker 2: with my vision my vision impairments, Like I've always spoke about,
Speaker 2: you know how much I saide I do have left,
Speaker 2: which is nine degrees of pinhole vision. And I've always
Speaker 2: explained to people living with retinitis pigmentosa that I can
Speaker 2: see the tiniest of tiniest of bits, you know, Like
Speaker 2: and I went on the show. You know, I was
Speaker 2: so proud of myself to go in there and do
Speaker 2: what I did with the little eyesight that I have left,
Speaker 2: you know, and I want to show people who have
Speaker 2: a disability that you can get out there and still
Speaker 2: do things and have a go. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I if I was a paralympian, I'll be getting praised.
Speaker 2: You know, they'd be going, go REGI, because I've gone
Speaker 2: in and had to go it's like, ah, faking it.
Speaker 2: She's not blind. And it goes to show how much
Speaker 2: more education is needed about blindness, because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people out there who think that being blind you
Speaker 2: cannot see a single thing, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, we've had a friendship for a long time now,
Speaker 1: and I've watched the degeneration of your eyesight. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been there. Like I remember one time, do you
Speaker 1: remember one of my friends was like, bring Reggie to
Speaker 1: dinner at the All you can eat at the Marriott,
Speaker 1: And like, yes, I'd love to go, but you know
Speaker 1: it's nighttime. I can't really see it nighttime. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how badly your eyesight was so just
Speaker 1: for people listening, I'm talking about twenty and thirteen, so
Speaker 1: we're talking eleven years ago you struggled to be able
Speaker 1: to see at nighttime. Yeah, and since then it has
Speaker 1: continued to become harder for you to be able to
Speaker 1: do things. So it's shocking to me, who's had to
Speaker 1: drag you around on my arm, that people will now
Speaker 1: comment on this.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's crazy, Ben So, but I'm glad I
Speaker 2: got a chance to bring awareness to lay vision blindness.
Speaker 2: And also I spoke about Lucas's sistick by Bracist while
Speaker 2: I was in there. I have it because I'm only
Speaker 2: up to I'm only up to number two shows, so
Speaker 2: I haven't seen what they've shown, but I hope they've
Speaker 2: shown me talking about you know, CF and about my my, yeah,
Speaker 2: failing eyesight. So yeah, it was good to be able
Speaker 2: to bring some awareness to both those things that are
Speaker 2: that are a big thing in our lives.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a champion to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: But also, it took you like twenty years to watch
Speaker 1: your first season of Big Brother and you still know that.
Speaker 2: I'm only up to day for that one. Oh my goodness, Ben,
Speaker 2: I'm just I've got to watch it. Yeah, I need
Speaker 2: to watch it, and I need to film myself watching
Speaker 2: commenting on it. That's what I've got to do.
Speaker 1: I've got a list of things that you're always to
Speaker 1: me you're going to do, and like which, big brother,
Speaker 1: I've got to write my book, and I'm like, you
Speaker 1: should do I need you know, I want new management
Speaker 1: or you know, all of these things. They're like, they're
Speaker 1: things that are there that you have ambition to do.
Speaker 1: And I have to say to you, I think a
Speaker 1: large part of your reason for not pushing forward with
Speaker 1: those things has a lot to do with the weight
Speaker 1: of the negativity of things that people have said to
Speaker 1: you over the years. I feel like if you had
Speaker 1: not have heard those things, you would have pushed forward
Speaker 1: with some of that. You've had a real disconnect because
Speaker 1: you think, yeah, oh well if I do this, then
Speaker 1: they're just going to come for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to I've got to learn not to
Speaker 2: let them get to me, you know, let all these
Speaker 2: things get to me. So, you know, I try to
Speaker 2: be as strong as I can, but some some days,
Speaker 2: you know, you heavy days. We love my goodness, you know, well,
Speaker 2: I just stop this horribleness. Like, I've always taught my
Speaker 2: kids to be kind, just always be kind to people,
Speaker 2: and yeah, unfortunately there's a lot of unkindness out there.
Speaker 2: But then again, you know, not shouldn't focus on the negative,
Speaker 2: but should be focusing on those who who are positive
Speaker 2: and a nice So yeah, lock, even with the management thing,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm fingers cross I'll find a good manager now,
Speaker 2: you know, because I've had a lot of bad luck
Speaker 2: over the years with bad management. Yeah, so hopefully something
Speaker 2: will come of this bend.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean I think in some ways it's
Speaker 1: your vulnerability that is your access point for people who've
Speaker 1: connected to you over the years. But being that vulnerable
Speaker 1: person that you are and allowing that it can be
Speaker 1: really hard to navigate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good things that they've got to happen. Good things
Speaker 2: have to happen.
Speaker 1: I want to know how you kept this a secret.
Speaker 1: I rang you a few times because one of the
Speaker 1: subs that came out was you know, she's conquered a house. Well,
Speaker 1: there's no other person in Australia that could be that clue.
Speaker 1: So I was like, and then you were so good
Speaker 1: you never confirmed it with me, but I did send
Speaker 1: you a text message that said, if by chance you
Speaker 1: are doing it, put those shoes on and start wearing
Speaker 1: them in. Ah, yes, did you take my advice?
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I've bought my jungle boat for about a
Speaker 2: week prior to going in. Uh huh, And they weren't
Speaker 2: actually that too bad. Like I got used to them
Speaker 2: really really quickly. There was a few people in there
Speaker 2: that didn't wear their boots in and they were getting
Speaker 2: blisters and you know, endless band aids on the back
Speaker 2: of their ankles and but no. And the weirdest thing
Speaker 2: was when I first after getting out of the jungle
Speaker 2: the next day, when I had a nice shower and
Speaker 2: put my sneakers on, I'm like, oh, it was like
Speaker 2: walking on pillows. It was just the best. And it's
Speaker 2: amazing what you take for granted, like just having a
Speaker 2: warm shower, just going to the toilet. Oh, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because you've been such a fan of the
Speaker 1: show over the years. We've debriefed seasons that you know,
Speaker 1: you're we've both been watching, so you had you had
Speaker 1: a real idea about what this show could be, Like
Speaker 1: I'd love to know now because you're almost a bit
Speaker 1: of a super fan of this show, What was it like,
Speaker 1: was it harder than you expected? And how did it
Speaker 1: match up to the dream of being able to do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I was probably the only one in there
Speaker 2: being that didn't struggle mentally, because because I've done two
Speaker 2: big brothers fire, you know, getting locked up three months
Speaker 2: at a time in a house, this was a breeze
Speaker 2: for me. Like, like I was only in there for
Speaker 2: a month, you know, i was away for five weeks
Speaker 2: all up, and I'm like, thisn't easy, like compared to
Speaker 2: especially compared to my second big brother as well, because
Speaker 2: that was hard. That was super hard. So I helped
Speaker 2: a lot of the camp mates get by because there
Speaker 2: was a few that were ready to walk out that
Speaker 2: door for three or four days in they were yeah,
Speaker 2: and then and then they weren't coping with being in
Speaker 2: there at all. They're like, why am I here? I
Speaker 2: can't do this?
Speaker 1: So who did that? And got to tell me who
Speaker 1: did that?
Speaker 2: Like Maddie J he he absolutely had a like he
Speaker 2: was so upset. He's gone on read I can't do
Speaker 2: this because I really can't do this.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it. Yeah, I believe it. And he
Speaker 1: was so desperate to do that show, like he said
Speaker 1: out there publicly. You know that they came to him
Speaker 1: and he didn't know whether to do it, and his
Speaker 1: wife didn't want him to do it, but you know,
Speaker 1: he wanted to do that show before. I actually asked
Speaker 1: him once at the Loki, So I said to him,
Speaker 1: would you do the Jungle? And he said, yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: love to do that. So I don't know. It's hard
Speaker 1: to believe. You know, you and I have been in
Speaker 1: these situations with a lot of these people. You never
Speaker 1: know what to believe when people tell you.
Speaker 2: Even Sam he struggled to be like he was. You know,
Speaker 2: he was in there worrying about everything back home and
Speaker 2: he's gonna, I should be home, I shouldn't be in here,
Speaker 2: and I was thinking, wow, like really yeah, it was
Speaker 2: it was crazy, like yeah. And then like Zach, he
Speaker 2: couldn't make to get out. He was. He was so
Speaker 2: happy the day that he got out of there. Oh yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 2: it was Gerald. She had a melkdown on the first
Speaker 2: night going in and it was all yeah, yeah, it
Speaker 2: was all too much for her because I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that she's got ADHD and sensory overload, and it was
Speaker 2: all because the camp mates were all just so loud
Speaker 2: and so full on, and she was upset, and I
Speaker 2: went and gave her a big cuddle and I said, look, Geraldine,
Speaker 2: just let them go. I said, this is what it's
Speaker 2: going to be like. They will eventually, they will eventually
Speaker 2: calm down. I said, give it a few days. I
Speaker 2: said that they'll be over They'll be over all trying
Speaker 2: to get their voices out there to look at me,
Speaker 2: look at me, look at me. I said, they'll be
Speaker 2: sick of each other by three days, and it all
Speaker 2: calmed down.
Speaker 1: I reckon. For my series of Big Brother, it took
Speaker 1: them three weeks before some of them started to behave
Speaker 1: like normal people, because it is like a heightened reality
Speaker 1: and it is very easy to get stepped up into it,
Speaker 1: and you know, you want to have your voice be
Speaker 1: heard where I felt like it takes people. Especially with
Speaker 1: the season of My Big Brother, it took them a
Speaker 1: long time to calm down. So when you told Geraldine,
Speaker 1: don't worry, they'll be fine in three days, I'll be like, yeah, no.
Speaker 2: It was fascinating. So I found it that part of
Speaker 2: the camp thing was mentally and that was fine for me.
Speaker 2: But I sort of felt like it was funny because
Speaker 2: everyone was sort of did they did have big personalities.
Speaker 2: So I sort of feel like I wasn't doing enhing
Speaker 2: because because I couldn't cook, I couldn't get near the
Speaker 2: campfire to cook, or.
Speaker 1: Couldn't believe me that Actually that annoys me. I've been
Speaker 1: with you videos for years. You're cooking sensational. Your food
Speaker 1: in real life is a part of your personality. RAG like,
Speaker 1: that's who you. You love cooking for people, you love
Speaker 1: sharing food with people. I was like, get in there,
Speaker 1: get in there.
Speaker 2: I tried to trust me. I tried, and then even
Speaker 2: Geraldine was coming, Like when the bag would drop and
Speaker 2: Rege can get in and Rege can chop up some
Speaker 2: Reggie's tonight and let REGI have a cook she can cook.
Speaker 2: Nat couldn't get near it. I think I only chopped up, oh,
Speaker 2: chopped up. I think twice to two or three times.
Speaker 2: I only got to manage to chop up a vegetable.
Speaker 2: And the only time I got to cook was towards
Speaker 2: the end of the end of the show was the
Speaker 2: fish and chips. Yeah, everyone, it was when over half
Speaker 2: the camp had already left. Got they're gone, and then
Speaker 2: the only time I managed to get to cook was
Speaker 2: when they brought in the beer and the flour and
Speaker 2: fish and then they went, Reggie, can you cook? Can
Speaker 2: you cook his fish and chip? And that was the
Speaker 2: only time I got there was day twenty six. It
Speaker 2: was day twenty six, I've got to cook.
Speaker 1: Do you know what these interesting about you talking about
Speaker 1: this though? Because I remember you sharing stories about your
Speaker 1: first big brother and your second big brother and now
Speaker 1: I'm a celebrity and inside these social experiments, you're always
Speaker 1: allowing other people to shine, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like you do step yeah. And I remember you saying
Speaker 1: you were unsure of how you know you were doing enough.
Speaker 1: In the first time you're on Big Brother in two
Speaker 1: thousand and three, you were like, am I doing enough?
Speaker 1: But Australia was obsessed with it? And then when you
Speaker 1: went and did Big Brother again in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: you said to me afterwards you felt like, wow, that
Speaker 1: was being filmed. You didn't feel like you were being
Speaker 1: enough then, and then here we are talking about I'm
Speaker 1: a celebrity and you're like, I'm not sure if I'm
Speaker 1: doing enough? You are enough? Like you doing the simplest
Speaker 1: things humanizes you to the audience. People see your relatability
Speaker 1: just in the most simplest of things. Wow, so interesting
Speaker 1: that you don't see it that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see it.
Speaker 1: No, no, And it lends itself into the speculation of
Speaker 1: you wish you know it was planned for you to
Speaker 1: win and all of these things, or you know you
Speaker 1: felt deserving. That could not be more opposite to the
Speaker 1: woman that I know, like you the last person buying
Speaker 1: tickets to any of your shows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird, It's really weird. I yeah, because I
Speaker 2: even went into the top talkie and I was talking
Speaker 2: to the producers and I kind of don't I feel
Speaker 2: like I'm not Then read You're fine, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just feel like I'm not doing enough. But I
Speaker 2: did feel like the camp mates. I don't know whether
Speaker 2: they didn't trust me using a knife, you know, to
Speaker 2: cut up a vegetable, or they wanted to do it themselves,
Speaker 2: because it is because there is a lot of time
Speaker 2: in there where you're doing nothing, and that is a
Speaker 2: big highlight. When that bag drop, you just want to
Speaker 2: do something. And yeah, so yeah, it was interesting.
Speaker 1: What did you think of the order of the people
Speaker 1: that left the show. Did you have because you've been
Speaker 1: in an elimination process style show before, did you predict
Speaker 1: who was going? Every time?
Speaker 2: I luck Samantha straight away, She's she's got to go,
Speaker 2: so she and she went.
Speaker 1: Yeah, though, I mean, do you know all subtext this, Reggie.
Speaker 1: I've heard you say a bad word about anyone. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: And I always when I catch up with you, I'm
Speaker 1: always gossiping about people and outrageous and you always laugh
Speaker 1: and say you're funny, aren't you? But you never say, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's enoughy. But like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was Samantha
Speaker 1: doing on that show. She had no business being there.
Speaker 2: I don't know, like because I don't like Matt watching
Speaker 2: Mats Like, I'm yeah, like I'm not a big fan
Speaker 2: of that show because I don't like people fighting and conflict.
Speaker 2: I'm a very I avoid that in my life, you know,
Speaker 2: I just don't like that. But yeah, like I just yeah,
Speaker 2: when I just had a feeling Samantha would go. But
Speaker 2: I was I was shocked when Hughsey went. He was hilarious.
Speaker 2: He was so beautiful. What I absolutely love him. He's
Speaker 2: the most beautiful guy. And you know, and we were
Speaker 2: talking a lot in there about trolls and social media
Speaker 2: and EP cops. It's so bad. And he said to me,
Speaker 2: read you guys, I've learned now over the years to
Speaker 2: not engage with it. Just just let them be, let
Speaker 2: them go, let them do it, he said, because I
Speaker 2: know who I am and that's all that matters. And
Speaker 2: it's so true. Like I was devastated when he left.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I really thought he was going to
Speaker 2: be there at the end, even with Max. When Max left,
Speaker 2: I was shocked at he left, because I thought it
Speaker 2: was going to be Mattie, Sam and Max in the
Speaker 2: final three. I did not see myself making it.
Speaker 1: On your face too. The whole way through the show.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know you well enough to know
Speaker 1: that look on your face, And yeah, you definitely didn't
Speaker 1: see yourself there, which is no, which is the opposite
Speaker 1: of whatever I was saying on the outside. You know,
Speaker 1: but don't you think it's weird You've now had access
Speaker 1: to being with all these celebrities, like for an extended
Speaker 1: period of time, You've rubbed shoulders with them for years,
Speaker 1: but like on red carpets, for just a moment, sitting
Speaker 1: there talking to someone like Hughesy, who is prolific. He
Speaker 1: has been front and center of media now for decades,
Speaker 1: rolled for decades. Do you start to do you start
Speaker 1: to listen to someone like that? And was he able
Speaker 1: to help you process your journey with all of that?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes he. I've got to take on board what
Speaker 2: he said to me, and I've got to remember, you know,
Speaker 2: get that into my head that just got to let
Speaker 2: these patrols go, like you just have to let them,
Speaker 2: you know, he goes, just let them go. He goes,
Speaker 2: You're going to get trailed no matter what you do.
Speaker 2: You know. So, But like I said, I am finding
Speaker 2: it difficult this time around because there's so much of it.
Speaker 2: It's just it's so much of it compared to my
Speaker 2: last two all the first Big Brother, I'm glad we
Speaker 2: didn't even have social media back then.
Speaker 1: No, no, oh gosh.
Speaker 2: But you know, I copped a bit in the second
Speaker 2: Big Brother. But this this obviously is just brutal with
Speaker 2: the trolls. But Hughesy was He gave me a lot
Speaker 2: of advice, you know, don't engage with it, just let
Speaker 2: it go.
Speaker 1: So funny with Geraldine as well being a comedian, she
Speaker 1: puts herself out there to be a comedian. And there's
Speaker 1: this about saying I'm funny and you say you're funny?
Speaker 1: People say, how dare you? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: What is your problem? Like? Yeah, isn't it amazing? Isn't
Speaker 1: it amazing that we could value something about our personalities
Speaker 1: enough to want to go and share it with the world. Yeah?
Speaker 2: Weird, you know, And I mean it's been.
Speaker 1: Relating to you on television for two decades. And you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of these people that are on television these
Speaker 1: days have been on one season of Maths or they've
Speaker 1: been on one season of Survival whatever, and then they
Speaker 1: you know, walk around, you know, thinking that they're amazing
Speaker 1: where yeah, you've been friend instead of doing this just
Speaker 1: for so long. And it's just hard. It is hard
Speaker 1: to have those conversations. It's good though, that you've got
Speaker 1: your I what was I calling farmer Dave? And I
Speaker 1: your fairy Godmother's I think is what I was saying.
Speaker 1: You know, these behind the scenes championing you for years.
Speaker 2: You know, oh, well I need a ring, Dave. A
Speaker 2: lot of people I haven't I just been. It's it's
Speaker 2: weird and I'm still tired. I'm so tired. I've been
Speaker 2: back over a week, and I am it's bizarre, but
Speaker 2: I guess because I didn't sleep very well in there either.
Speaker 2: I only had one good night's sleep, and because I'd
Speaker 2: lay there thinking a spider or a snake or something
Speaker 2: was going to get me, and and everyone kept becoming
Speaker 2: rage you need to sleep, girl like, And because I'm
Speaker 2: really bad in my normal day life, like.
Speaker 1: Every day last d Are you a good sleeper in general?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. And in there was just ten times worse.
Speaker 2: So I haven't even gone back to my bed yet.
Speaker 2: I'm sleeping on the couch. I'm still on the couch
Speaker 2: here at home.
Speaker 1: It's not only because you've given you a better way,
Speaker 1: isn't It's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my sister is in my bed, but she has
Speaker 2: offered to me. But I'm like, this is actually comfortable,
Speaker 2: because the camp beds were hard as well, you know,
Speaker 2: they're hard as roll and this is like a comfy
Speaker 2: little camp bed. So and I'm still got up in
Speaker 2: this little you know, like a little cocaine. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I met to I was weird, like even on that
Speaker 2: night they brought in those beds. The double oh. Could
Speaker 2: not sleep, could not sleep. It was bizarre. It was like,
Speaker 2: this is weird sleeping in a bed.
Speaker 1: The woman described it as being overtired. Do you know
Speaker 1: when your legs feel like they won't Yeah?
Speaker 2: True, but no, I'm still tired. And I have been
Speaker 2: sick since. You know. I got sick with this car
Speaker 2: for a week last week of the show, and I'm
Speaker 2: still getting over that. So yeah, I'm feeling like crap.
Speaker 2: I need to make my fifty cloves of galax.
Speaker 1: Soup and get it's my go to. You sent that
Speaker 1: to me, I reckon six years ago. If Ben or
Speaker 1: I have like any slight tingle in the back of
Speaker 1: the throat, I'm like, get the Reggie's Garlic soup out
Speaker 1: and it works. It's a good one work.
Speaker 2: I've got to go and do it.
Speaker 1: After this experience, I think, you know more of those
Speaker 1: videos sharing your cooking. People love that stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. It was amazing, Like because before I
Speaker 2: went into the jungle, I was while I was over
Speaker 2: there in South Africa, I was trying to upload some
Speaker 2: cooking videos to make it look like I was still
Speaker 2: here and yeah, and I would load properly and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: It's frustrating because I loaded up my wristole video and
Speaker 2: I said, hey, everyone, I'm making rissoles with a caramelized
Speaker 2: red red wine and then gravy, and all what would
Speaker 2: upload was was just me making the bristles, and then
Speaker 2: the gravy bit wouldn't upload, And I've got out and
Speaker 2: got my phone back and and banned out. Like I've
Speaker 2: had all hundreds of thousands of views on my wristole
Speaker 2: video and a lot of people go and where's the gravy?
Speaker 2: But I should do I should I should do a
Speaker 2: little part to explain. Yeah, I need to explain to.
Speaker 1: People hanging around for it.
Speaker 2: Yes they are, like, it's had nearly a million views.
Speaker 1: Wild, it's so wild. Do you know what's also interesting
Speaker 1: that I wanted to ask you was after the first
Speaker 1: Big Brother, you needed a security guard to follow you
Speaker 1: up after you did Big Brother the second time round,
Speaker 1: you said you walked down the street and no one
Speaker 1: about it an eyelid. Yes, the action this time around.
Speaker 2: This one is like, it's really weird because yeah, the
Speaker 2: first Big Brother was in saying that added this world crazy. Second,
Speaker 2: no one gave to you heats, and now it's come
Speaker 2: back again with like, oh, Reggie, can I have a photo?
Speaker 2: You were great, Like, yeah, it's back to that again,
Speaker 2: and especially with little kids because a lot of kids
Speaker 2: watch on a celebrity and there's a lot of the
Speaker 2: kids wanting a photo and no, it's really really lovely.
Speaker 2: And that's another thing I absolutely loved about doing this
Speaker 2: show was no one was pitted up against each other,
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't the competition, do you know, to get
Speaker 2: to the end. It was we were all there to
Speaker 2: help each other. And that's what I absolutely loved about it,
Speaker 2: Like you're there to help each other, and you're there
Speaker 2: like when you do these trials and all you want
Speaker 2: to do is get as many stars as possible to
Speaker 2: come back and feed the family. That's what it was like.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's that's what I loved about it, like
Speaker 2: we're all there to help each other absolutely.
Speaker 1: Do you think because you've been here before, hi, pressure
Speaker 1: environments make relationships seem more potent at the time, but
Speaker 1: do they last after the show? Because Big Brother in
Speaker 1: two thousand and three, you have maintained your friendship with
Speaker 1: don't we call him fat Bobby? What do we call Ben?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, Ben? Yes, that Bobby yeah, yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Like people thought you'd be friends with other housemates from
Speaker 1: that year, but you walked away. The people who stood
Speaker 1: by you were not the obvious. Yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's again like even in the second Big Brother,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, the best mate I've got out of
Speaker 2: that one is Farmer Dave, like he me and him,
Speaker 2: I think of the I think it's me and him
Speaker 2: still like a still touch his base now and then,
Speaker 2: and the other is the other meal Tim he's gone.
Speaker 2: I don't know any updates on the way that he's been,
Speaker 2: whether he's got back to normal or.
Speaker 1: Is still doing I was wondering whether or not you
Speaker 1: saw that.
Speaker 2: No, Oh did he What did he do? Maybe he
Speaker 2: should tell he did.
Speaker 1: Something along the line. I don't want to go too
Speaker 1: much into this because I think but like he did
Speaker 1: take us say hey, Reggie, who's watching who? Now?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 1: I think he thinks that you're watching him? And then
Speaker 1: he does a dance for like half an hour. And
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole dance. I did skim through
Speaker 1: it to see whether or not he clarified the caption,
Speaker 1: but I didn't see him clarify the caption. But look,
Speaker 1: it's really sad because I think when anyone and I
Speaker 1: know you felt, you felt like this, and you feel
Speaker 1: like this when anyone in our Big Brother community or
Speaker 1: our family has something go wrong, we worry deeply. Like
Speaker 1: it's it's like we have a bond with these people,
Speaker 1: even people that are not on your own season. You know,
Speaker 1: if anything happens to them, you want it is a
Speaker 1: strange eerror for Tim Dab at the moment, and I
Speaker 1: wish him nothing but health and happiness. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know the full story, so it's just too
Speaker 1: hard to connu And then.
Speaker 2: Like with this one again, like you like even in
Speaker 2: the second, that's right. With the second Big Brother was
Speaker 2: though we're all in is WhatsApp group chat, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: right after it had been filmed, and like everyone was happy,
Speaker 2: everyone's chatting, everyone's this and whatever, and I'm and I
Speaker 2: was thinking in my head, I'll wait to wait till
Speaker 2: the show goes to air. This will all stop. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that's what happened.
Speaker 1: So wild. And then now you're back again in an
Speaker 1: environment where this one was life like the original Big Brother.
Speaker 1: So that makes it a little bit different in gym, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that takes away that anticipation of the show coming out.
Speaker 1: But do you see who are the people that you'll
Speaker 1: be talking to in ten years time? Do you know
Speaker 1: who those people would be?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon it's going to be I reckon Nikki
Speaker 2: Nikki Buckley.
Speaker 1: What was she like? She looks fabulous. I'd be friends
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 2: She's turning sixty this year, and she is amazing, Like
Speaker 2: her body is insane like I'm and she goes red.
Speaker 2: I exercise each day. I want you because you know
Speaker 2: she goes. I don't want to get old and ended
Speaker 2: up in a nursing home. I need to look after myself,
Speaker 2: you know. So that's why she's just amazing, A very
Speaker 2: strong woman, very competitive lady. Yeah, Nikki, Maddi Ja like Maddie.
Speaker 2: Jamie and him got along really well.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm going to say. I'll leave that there.
Speaker 2: Oh look, yes, hopefully Max like But a lot of
Speaker 2: Max's people do not like me because he didn't make
Speaker 2: it to the end. So I'm not get all these
Speaker 2: fans because I asked, Yeah, that's r because I sent
Speaker 2: him a message gun Max, what was the video that
Speaker 2: made you go viral for him to become famous? Yes,
Speaker 2: so he on TikTok. So he sent me the video
Speaker 2: of him where he was he brought all these toys
Speaker 2: from Disneyland or something anyway, So when I so, then
Speaker 2: I started clicking through some of his videos and of
Speaker 2: him being on the show, and and oh my god,
Speaker 2: like the hate for me was just brutal.
Speaker 1: M Yes, I know, just don't read the comments. But
Speaker 1: you know, I would love for you to go and
Speaker 1: see him in England. That's what I'd like.
Speaker 2: I'd love to do that.
Speaker 1: I've got a really good theory. So yeah, I would
Speaker 1: like to see you on Big Brother Celebrity UK. They
Speaker 1: are doing that, and I think you could go into that.
Speaker 1: And now we have like a reason for you to
Speaker 1: be there, Like there already is the fact that you
Speaker 1: are a two time champion. We're not of Big Brother,
Speaker 1: but like, wouldn't it be amazing to read be reunited
Speaker 1: with Max in that series?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be awesome. I know we need to make
Speaker 2: some phone called maybe we need to I TV. Do
Speaker 2: they run that over there?
Speaker 1: They do?
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 1: Let's record, let's get him on the phone.
Speaker 2: Now we need to get this going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alex Shirley can do that, Like, oh.
Speaker 2: Come on, Alex would have connection.
Speaker 1: For people the EP so he was brother and he
Speaker 1: was your yeah, yeah, and he's such a big fan
Speaker 1: of yours as well.
Speaker 2: I know, I've got to get this happening.
Speaker 1: I always used to say to him, if you're putting
Speaker 1: any Big Brother people into the jungle, who would you
Speaker 1: put in there? And he always used to say, no,
Speaker 1: no one. The people at the top, the powers that be,
Speaker 1: don't want any Big Brothers people in there. But I
Speaker 1: guess with you going in there, it had a lot
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that Big Brother's coming back
Speaker 1: on Channel ten, that they need to true invest in that,
Speaker 1: you know, in that era of Big Brother again. But
Speaker 1: I remember Alex would always give me the same list
Speaker 1: of people that he would want to put in there,
Speaker 1: and so he has always been a champion of you
Speaker 1: with you at the top, although he did I'm reluctant
Speaker 1: to put Reggie in the show because I fear it
Speaker 1: would be everyone saying, oh, she's going to win. You know,
Speaker 1: he was worried about putting you there in that space
Speaker 1: because he thought, yeah, people would say, do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? So I don't know what changed in
Speaker 1: his mind to then change that, but you know I'd
Speaker 1: love to see Farmer Dave do the Jungle.
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, yes, would you do it?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: Would you?
Speaker 1: Would you think I'm not in the zeitgeist like that anymore?
Speaker 1: Like I think people wouldn't know who I was. I really,
Speaker 1: I really think that's where it is at right now.
Speaker 1: Would I do it? Of course I do it, barbarasis
Speaker 1: with the idea, But you know, I just don't know
Speaker 1: whether or not that I mean, I guess they could
Speaker 1: roll back the footage of me winning Big Brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people care, you don't know, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I always thought that Tim Dormer
Speaker 1: should do it, but then you know, he's in a
Speaker 1: different headspace. Now. I've always thought that Tully would be
Speaker 1: good on it, but then also she problematic at times,
Speaker 1: you know, and Ben's a belle like he'd be great
Speaker 1: on that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he'd go okay on there.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I mean he's kind of he was kind
Speaker 1: of like a version of you in some way. Because
Speaker 1: the fans of Benzabell's were very similar to your long
Speaker 1: term fans. I think I feel so well, I should
Speaker 1: quickly reconfirm something. So a lot of people are writing
Speaker 1: about whether or not you are having anything to do
Speaker 1: with a new Big Brother, And you're saying, at this
Speaker 1: stage no one has reached out. Do you have any
Speaker 1: things that you would like to come back for this
Speaker 1: new Big Brother? What do they need to do that
Speaker 1: I need to do? Dot points? I'm going to start
Speaker 1: with Mike Goldman.
Speaker 2: Well, I was about to say, they have to bring
Speaker 2: back Mike Goldman. He has to be the voiceover, like,
Speaker 2: they have to bring him back. I doubt Gretel would
Speaker 2: come back to host it unless she got offered a
Speaker 2: lot of money. That's what They've already got a host,
Speaker 2: haven't they.
Speaker 1: Well, but they bring great I forgot like, I don't
Speaker 1: think she. I think Gretel's done with it, don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1: Long ago and we had a conversation about it, and
Speaker 1: I thought she would be very dismissive of chatting about
Speaker 1: Big Brother, but she was really chatty. She was really
Speaker 1: you know. I think for her, if the money was right,
Speaker 1: she'd do it. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: I think they should bring back a lot of the
Speaker 2: original producers like Peter Abbott, whether Alex would do it again.
Speaker 2: But they need to bring it if they want Big
Speaker 2: Brother to come back to its original format how it
Speaker 2: used to be. They need to have some of the
Speaker 2: older guys that worked on that show who know what
Speaker 2: they're doing and know the concept it all. Because nothing against
Speaker 2: new and upcoming producers, but you need to have something
Speaker 2: that someone with that experience to bring to bring it
Speaker 2: back the way that it used to be.
Speaker 1: So I agree.
Speaker 2: You know, even if they're doing up Late, are they
Speaker 2: going to do up Late and all that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: They need to do that they're saying they're doing that,
Speaker 1: They're saying up Late's coming back. And I've also just
Speaker 1: recently heard that they're bringing back Friday night games. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: so that would be really interesting. So look, yeah, conversations
Speaker 1: are happening behind closed doors. So yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: are bringing back some of those things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope I'll get to do something with big
Speaker 2: brother Ben. I'd love I'd love to be able.
Speaker 1: To well, you're the queen. If they don't bring your back,
Speaker 1: people fucking riot.
Speaker 2: You know, I'd love to be even if I interview
Speaker 2: the housemates prior to going in or after coming out,
Speaker 2: or just something. You know, I think I don't have
Speaker 2: to be a housemate again. I'd love to be just
Speaker 2: part of it in some way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they Yes, they're doing another Big Brother, although if
Speaker 1: they did bring back, if they did a proper All Stars,
Speaker 1: would you do that?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I absolutely love Big Brother. You know, I
Speaker 2: can't say no to it.
Speaker 1: It's been a part of your life. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's pretty obvious. Yeah, yeah, that's how you feel
Speaker 1: about it. It'd be very weird. We're the sort of
Speaker 1: person and there are some ex housemates that are like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it, or they try
Speaker 1: and pretend that dirty word and you just think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what Yeah, yes, it's comb out there like that.
Speaker 1: Well, before you go, I have to ask you the
Speaker 1: same question I ask everybody, and this is like AID
Speaker 1: five hundred and thirty. So, what is something from behind
Speaker 1: the scenes of your experience if I'm a celebrity, something
Speaker 1: of a behind the scenes secret, something that people didn't
Speaker 1: see on television, kind of something that happened to you
Speaker 1: that you can share.
Speaker 2: Oh oh shit, Oh I don't know, because I haven't
Speaker 2: watched it all yet. Well, I was allowed to have
Speaker 2: a torch to go to the toilet because, you know,
Speaker 2: because I can't see in the dark, So maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know whether they've shown me using my little torch
Speaker 2: to go to the toilet.
Speaker 1: Did they talk to you about what you could do though,
Speaker 1: Like did you say I need a torch?
Speaker 2: Or yes?
Speaker 1: The conversation said that did you have? Because I love that.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of people saying, oh, well, with
Speaker 1: your disability, could you even do the show? You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know about people. You know, can a person in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair do this show? Can a person have you
Speaker 1: know a walking stick? You know, There's been lots of
Speaker 1: those conversations, so I can imagine they were very careful
Speaker 1: about Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so no, definitely the torch. What else? Geez, I
Speaker 2: can't think.
Speaker 1: Don't get awkward. Look at Mattie Janey Spiedo's They would
Speaker 1: have told you to do that.
Speaker 3: One ah gosh, oh, I accidentally grabbed a hold of
Speaker 3: his painot I when we're walking from the waterfall because
Speaker 3: the trick the track to the waterfall ben is like.
Speaker 2: It's very rugged and lots of tree roots and and
Speaker 2: lots of rocks to climb over, and so Sam and
Speaker 2: Maddie would take hands and help help and hold my
Speaker 2: hand and to get because I could not do it
Speaker 2: by myself. Anyways, So Maddie was being my guy dog
Speaker 2: one day. He was hopeless. We're gone across the rocks,
Speaker 2: all these big rocks. He's taken me the wrong way,
Speaker 2: and luck he was holding my hand because I would
Speaker 2: have fell anyway. Yes, I nearly fell, but when I fell,
Speaker 2: my hand just automatically grabbed hold of his penis and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry, Maddie, I said,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry that just happened. But it was. But
Speaker 2: we made a jocob it. Every time we went back
Speaker 2: to the waterfall, I'm like, oh, he's he's at rock
Speaker 2: where I meant to trip again. So that was that
Speaker 2: was funny.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say that's the funniest thing anyone's ever
Speaker 1: said on my podcast ever. Really, Yeah, that is it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that says something about Mattie Jay's branch, you know,
Speaker 1: good branch to grab the way.
Speaker 2: Down and mind. And gee, this was after we've been
Speaker 2: in the in the cold water and it wasn't trupled up.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I'm terrible, Reggie.
Speaker 1: I genuinely Reggie. I'm just genuinely obsessed with you, not
Speaker 1: just as the person that I fell in love with,
Speaker 1: on Big Brother all those years ago. But for the
Speaker 1: friendship that you've afforded me over the years. Out of
Speaker 1: all of the Big Brother universe, you are always there
Speaker 1: to answer your phone and have a chin wag. You're
Speaker 1: always there to ask how you are. And whenever I
Speaker 1: see you or whenever I get off the phone, I
Speaker 1: always feel good. And isn't that the best thing about friendship? Ah?
Speaker 2: It has been. And no, I'm glad you feel that way.
Speaker 2: You know, like it's lovely. It's very lovely to hear
Speaker 2: that you've.
Speaker 1: Picked me up. And I you know, a lot of
Speaker 1: people don't do that these days, a lot of people
Speaker 1: still sort of obsessed with their own world. But yeah,
Speaker 1: would you relate to people?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: You are empathetic and you're very kind. You put yourself
Speaker 1: in people's shoes to people, and for that, I just, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to thank you.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you being what's outing to thank you again?
Speaker 1: Yah? I said to Ben last night. He was like,
Speaker 1: when are you going up to the Gold Coast because
Speaker 1: he's read on a group chat that I said I
Speaker 1: was going up there in March. So I've told later
Speaker 1: I'm coming up to see the girls. Because her twins
Speaker 1: have just turned one.
Speaker 2: Oh beautiful.
Speaker 1: I got my friend up there, Jacoby, so yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: be up there soon, so I'll be banging on for
Speaker 1: a beer.
Speaker 2: Yell out yeah already, all right, passed off.
Speaker 1: I love to Anita and the kids, and I'll chat
Speaker 1: too soon.
Speaker 2: All right, you don't care, let me know when this
Speaker 2: is going to be coming out.
Speaker 1: I'll send it to you.
Speaker 3: Hi,