WEBVTT - Unpacking stress and maximising brain power 🧠

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<v Speaker 1>Good everyone, Sam here.

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<v Speaker 2>So this week I am taking off overseas with my

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<v Speaker 2>biggest little girl, Evie, taking her to New York to

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<v Speaker 2>look at some university courses or college courses they call

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<v Speaker 2>them over there, which means for you, we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>go back and look at some of my favorite episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure that some of your favorite episodes, or

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps some that you've missed altogether.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those was with one of my absolute favorites.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Joanna McMillan, who joined us earlier this year, and

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<v Speaker 2>we spoke was a great conversation about how you fuel

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<v Speaker 2>your mind for better cognitive performance. It really was a

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<v Speaker 2>great conversation. Highly recommend checking that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Out if you missed it or as a refresher.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we're going to head to doctor Libby Weaver,

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<v Speaker 2>who is going to speak about what happens when we

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<v Speaker 2>overload our mind, which then turns into stress.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at this time of.

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<v Speaker 2>Year it's cold, our next holiday or next break might

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<v Speaker 2>not be just around the corner. It feels like we've

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<v Speaker 2>got a massive load on us, you know, school holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>everything's sort of going on. So giving some advice from

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<v Speaker 2>experts far more knowledgeable than me on how to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of our brain.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was really.

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<v Speaker 2>Apt timing to learn about taking better care of our brains,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly when things just become a bit overwhelming and a

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<v Speaker 2>bit full on. These are two fantastic experts to get

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<v Speaker 2>some really practical advice on how to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>your brain, particularly stressful.

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<v Speaker 1>Middle part of the year. So make sure you have

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<v Speaker 1>a listen. This is the wood life. Let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>it for our listeners that don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Joanna is one of Australia's best nutrition scientists. She's an

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<v Speaker 2>author and she's got this incredible audio book called Mindful,

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<v Speaker 2>which is with f U double L And that's as

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<v Speaker 2>I hear Joanna part of a series, so it's Mindful

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<v Speaker 2>and releasing in May is Heartful, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the one that I've just recorded and is coming

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<v Speaker 3>out very soon. That's heartful. What sweet for a healthier heart?

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<v Speaker 2>So let's let's talk about actually how food makes us feel.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the first question I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you was about sugar.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what is.

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<v Speaker 2>This sugar crash or this three pm pick me up

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone sort of craves and why is that happening

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<v Speaker 2>to many of us? And what foods can we consume

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<v Speaker 2>to best to best combat this, well, I think the.

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<v Speaker 3>First thing to really do because I see so much

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<v Speaker 3>confusion around the word sugar, because I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>with this sort of messaging that's gone on about sugar's bad,

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<v Speaker 3>sugar's toxic, sugar sys. To a scientist, sugar is at

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<v Speaker 3>its fundamental level, we've got the most simple sugars and

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<v Speaker 3>that includes glucose that runs in your bloodstream. Now, if

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't have glucose running in your bloodstream, you're dead.

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<v Speaker 3>So the idea, I mean, it just is so scientifically

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<v Speaker 3>nonsensical to anyone who's even studied high school chemistry to

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<v Speaker 3>think that, you know, saying sugar is toxic.

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<v Speaker 4>What people really mean by talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About sugar is the refined table sugar, which is actually

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<v Speaker 3>mostly sucrose, but sometimes it's high fructose corn syrup or

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's you know, there's a multitude of different

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<v Speaker 3>ways that refined sugars are added into two foods. That's

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that's the problem. And then we've got the

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<v Speaker 3>discussion that then gets confused with it, which is about

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<v Speaker 3>control of your own blood sugar, which is the glucose

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<v Speaker 3>in your blood. And we do know that if you've

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<v Speaker 3>got type two diabetes and you've got poorly controlled blood

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<v Speaker 3>glucose levels, that is enormously bad for your health and

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<v Speaker 3>it puts you risk of a whole load of other

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<v Speaker 3>chronic conditions. So control of blood glucose is very, very important,

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<v Speaker 3>and even for those of us who don't have diabetes

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<v Speaker 3>of any sort, and so it's really important for all

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<v Speaker 3>of us to avoid big blood glucose spikes, and we

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<v Speaker 3>want to try to allow our body to have very

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<v Speaker 3>gentle rises and falls. It's normal for your blood glucose

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<v Speaker 3>to rise after meals that contain carbohydrate in particular, that's

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<v Speaker 3>where most of it's going to come from. These are

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<v Speaker 3>normal rises and falls, so it's not about not having

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<v Speaker 3>any rise. Glucose is the fuel for your brain. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the primary fuel for your brain, and your brain uses honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>about twenty five percent of the glucose that's running through

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<v Speaker 3>your blood across the day. You know a quarter of

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<v Speaker 3>that at least is going to fuel in your brain,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you're really using your brain. So it's worth

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<v Speaker 3>sort of recognizing that. And you know, lots of your

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<v Speaker 3>listeners are also exercisers. If you're doing exercise of any

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<v Speaker 3>kind of intensity. You want to have some glucose there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that's going to fuel. You can't use that quickly,

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<v Speaker 3>so you want to be able to have that glucose

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<v Speaker 3>at you're disposable to do some of those particularly tougher workouts.

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<v Speaker 3>The differentiation has to come from what's the problem with

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<v Speaker 3>these highly refined sugars. Now, if I take a piece

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<v Speaker 3>of fruit, that sugar is bound up in plant cell walls,

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<v Speaker 3>along with a bunch of different nutrients. There's what we

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<v Speaker 3>call the food matrix. So your body has to break

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<v Speaker 3>down those plant cell walls to get at the sugar.

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<v Speaker 3>There's usually lots of fiber, nutrients, antioxidants, all sorts of

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<v Speaker 3>other stuff there, So that takes time, and the sugars

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<v Speaker 3>are then absorbed nice and slowly up into your bloodstream,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you make use of all those nutrients. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a complete food package. It's a very different thing. If

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<v Speaker 3>I take the plant, and you can get sugar from

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<v Speaker 3>all sorts of different plants. It might be sugar cane,

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<v Speaker 3>sugar beet, it might be from a parsnipper, from whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and you extract the sugar and you get rid of

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<v Speaker 3>everything else. That's in the plant, so you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>any fiber, you don't have any nutrients. You've simply extracted, processed,

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<v Speaker 3>and refined the sugar on its own, and then you

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<v Speaker 3>have that or you have it added, you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>it's added ubiquitously into so many other foods, and that

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<v Speaker 3>becomes a problem because you don't have that full food package.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not just the problem of the sugar. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>often we point the finger at sugar, but actually it's

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<v Speaker 3>the foods and drinks that have too much of that

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<v Speaker 3>added sugar in it that usually also have the process fats,

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<v Speaker 3>the refined starch, the wrong you know, low nutrient density,

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<v Speaker 3>way too many calories per bite of the food.

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<v Speaker 4>So we get these really.

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<v Speaker 3>Energy dense, moorish, highly palatable foods that make us want

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<v Speaker 3>to eat them more. So we're really talking you know,

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<v Speaker 3>junk foods and package snacks.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got the.

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<v Speaker 3>Scientifically designed combination of salt, sugar, fat, crunch, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to make them so moorish, so we overeat them, but

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<v Speaker 3>they're not giving us the nutrients that we need. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's really those foods. So rather than pointing the finger

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<v Speaker 3>of brame, I feel at sugar is one. You've got

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<v Speaker 3>to really differentiate between what are naturally present sugars in

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<v Speaker 3>foods like fruit, even raw honey. I mean, honey's been around.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want a paleo food, honey is a true

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<v Speaker 3>paleo food. These are foods that are generally really good

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<v Speaker 3>for us, and it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Those ultra process foods.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's where research science has moved towards talking about

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<v Speaker 3>ultra process foods or upfs, instead of this sort of

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<v Speaker 3>point in the finger, blame it transfats or gluten or

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<v Speaker 3>sugar or whatever we individually pick out. It's the ultra

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<v Speaker 3>process foods that are ultimately the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And so do you. I mean, you've given a really

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<v Speaker 2>good explanation for what people need to look out for.

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<v Speaker 2>But even when you are listing the different ways sugar

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<v Speaker 2>is added into package products and the clever ways that

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<v Speaker 2>the food manufacturers label them as you know, corn syrup,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know they've got twenty five different meanings

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't write sugar deliberately, because they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>you to go through the ingredient list and think it's

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<v Speaker 2>full of sugar, because it's full of all these other things.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't really understand what they are.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your top tips for our listeners who don't

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<v Speaker 2>have your background or even my background.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it as simple as donated events in a packet?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well it's not as it's not as hard core

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<v Speaker 3>is saying you can't have anything in a packet. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>if we could have a perfect world, we'd all still

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<v Speaker 3>be hunting and growing our own veggies and hand chooks

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<v Speaker 3>in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 4>But look, we don't have lives like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of us now live in cities rather than in

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<v Speaker 3>the country, and we have to be able to buy

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<v Speaker 3>our food and we can use modern I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a scientist.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Use modern science, modern technology, modern ways of preserving food

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<v Speaker 3>to make it easier for me to follow a healthy diet. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>you can have some canned produce. Frozen produce is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to use chemical preservatives and things when

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<v Speaker 3>you're freezing foods. So, but you just have to look

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<v Speaker 3>for one of the right foods to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>so canned legings, can tomatoes, canned sweet corn, these things

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<v Speaker 3>are great and the foods are highly nutritious. Frozen veggies,

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<v Speaker 3>frozen berries, you know these sorts of things are absolutely brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't object to, you know, packets of pasta,

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<v Speaker 3>but make your own sauce and make your and you

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<v Speaker 3>can buy good sauces, but it's generally it's so easy

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<v Speaker 3>to make your own ingredients. So use some level of

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<v Speaker 3>these kind of convenience foods. But the best advice I

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<v Speaker 3>can give when it comes to a food in a

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<v Speaker 3>packet is read the ingredients list. And you hinted at

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<v Speaker 3>this there when you said, oh, if you read the

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<v Speaker 3>ingredients list and there's stuff there that it's clearly not

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<v Speaker 3>a food. And there's loads of these ingredients that you

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<v Speaker 3>think that sounds like it should be in the pharmacy,

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<v Speaker 3>not in the supermarket, the foedback, it's probably not that

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<v Speaker 3>great a choice. Whereas if you can identify, oh, this

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<v Speaker 3>has got a list of ingredients, it's bread that's got flour,

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<v Speaker 3>serdo culture, some salt and water, maybe some olive oil

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<v Speaker 3>in it, that's a great bread. Whereas if it's a

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<v Speaker 3>bread that's got sugar in it, which doesn't happen much

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<v Speaker 3>in Australia. It's mostly sort of from breosh breads or

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<v Speaker 3>burger buns, you know, and you can and read the

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<v Speaker 3>ingredients and it's got preservatives and it's got you know,

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<v Speaker 3>flour improvers, and then suddenly you're recognizing, okay, this is

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<v Speaker 3>getting further away from what would be a more traditional food.

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<v Speaker 2>What about fats? Good fats, bad fats? And what's sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the simplest way to explain do you do? You

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<v Speaker 2>find is to explain that to people that allows them

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<v Speaker 2>to make bitter choices.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, one of the best things that's happened over the

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<v Speaker 3>course of my career from when I was an early dietitian,

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<v Speaker 3>low fat diets were you know, really in thing, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was really difficult to get people to even consider

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<v Speaker 3>eating an avocado or you know, nuts were out.

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<v Speaker 4>And again it was because of that can't exist.

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<v Speaker 2>Fat was fat, and fat was a yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And fat made fact. That was just the assumption because.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody was really stepping back and looking at the big picture.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually the recognition of good fats has come partly

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<v Speaker 3>from the heart health understanding, understanding that these good fats

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<v Speaker 3>in your diet actually have a really good effect on

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<v Speaker 3>your blood cholesterol profile. And when I say profile, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean it's your total cholesterol doesn't tell you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>You need to know the breakdown of the of the

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<v Speaker 3>way that the different cholesterol and other fats are being

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<v Speaker 3>carried in your diet, in your in your blood story.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also come from the recognition of fat is

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<v Speaker 3>a huge part of your brain.

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<v Speaker 4>Your brain is a very.

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<v Speaker 3>Fatty tissue and it's and it's got concentrated levels of

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<v Speaker 3>the long chain a Mega three fats that we get

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<v Speaker 3>from things like oily fish. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>combination of the heart health understanding and the brain health

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<v Speaker 3>understanding that oh, hang on, we need these really good

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<v Speaker 3>fats in our diet, and these really long chain omega

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<v Speaker 3>threes for example. Although we can make them from short

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<v Speaker 3>chain of mega trees from some plant foods for example,

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<v Speaker 3>like walnuts and chi and fla seed, we're not.

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<v Speaker 4>Very good at doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's been this recognition that will actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>these are essential fats for us to have our optimal health.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we've got the impact of now understanding the

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<v Speaker 3>impact of fat on digestion, metabolism and even glycimic induction.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you've got some good fats there in the meal,

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<v Speaker 3>it slows down digestion absorption. We've also got fat soluble antioxidants.

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<v Speaker 3>That's relatively new research suddenly realizing, well, we can eat

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<v Speaker 3>a raw carrot, but you're not going to absorb that

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<v Speaker 3>beta caroteene unless you've drizzled some oil on your salad

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<v Speaker 3>or you've roasted that carrot the oven and got the

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<v Speaker 3>fats going into there so that the fat soluble carotenoids

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<v Speaker 3>can then be absorbed.

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<v Speaker 4>So and we've got fat soluble.

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<v Speaker 3>Vitamins of course, so we suddenly have this recognition that

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<v Speaker 3>will hang on, not all fats are bad, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we've got this sort of progress of nutrition science starting

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<v Speaker 3>to understand and the principles are exactly the same as

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<v Speaker 3>for sugar. That when you get those fats mostly in

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<v Speaker 3>their whole food form or from things like extra virgin oliveil,

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<v Speaker 3>that's really just the freshly squeezed juice of the olive.

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<v Speaker 3>A very different scenario to highly processed seed oils, which

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<v Speaker 3>I know are a little controversial because you've got many

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<v Speaker 3>dietitians that will tell you there's no problem with those,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm not one of them. To me, those are

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<v Speaker 3>ultra processed foods. So these kind of fats, avocado, nuts,

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<v Speaker 3>and seeds, oily fish, you know, and some of the

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<v Speaker 3>other fats that are found in these whole foods are

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<v Speaker 3>generally really good for us. And extra virgin olive oil

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<v Speaker 3>is head and shoulders above. There is just a different

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<v Speaker 3>category of food to most other kind of oils. Avocado

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<v Speaker 3>oil is probably one that comes close but doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>the same sort of pattern of polyphenols and other are

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<v Speaker 3>phytoin nutrients that.

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<v Speaker 4>Are there in the oil.

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<v Speaker 3>So these are foods that we definitely should be including

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<v Speaker 3>in our diet.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about that sort of food brain connection and why

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<v Speaker 2>it's so important, And do you tend to agree that

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we miss it a bit, like it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't get spoken about as much, does it.

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<v Speaker 4>I entirely agree it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's only in recent years, even in research circles,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know, my early career, we sort of talked.

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<v Speaker 3>We understood that diet had some role to play in

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<v Speaker 3>brain perform and it's certainly long term brain health in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of your risk of dementia. And there was some

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<v Speaker 3>understanding of diet was important in things like depression and

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<v Speaker 3>other mood disorders that nobody could really even in research circles,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't really understood the mechanisms, you know, was it

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<v Speaker 3>to do with nutrients? Was it to do And now

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's been this sort of explosion in research

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<v Speaker 3>and interest in research, so therefore that stimulates more research

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<v Speaker 3>that we've got a much better understanding of what those

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<v Speaker 3>mechanisms are. And I say this in my introduction to

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<v Speaker 3>Mindful that you know, we used to think of the

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<v Speaker 3>brain and many people still do this's just elusive thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's what makes your personality exactly influence over it, and

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<v Speaker 3>that can be further from the truth. You know, it

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<v Speaker 3>of course it is involved in your in your personality

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<v Speaker 3>and what makes you you, but it also is like

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<v Speaker 3>any other organ in your body, it requires nutrients. It

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<v Speaker 3>requires fuel to function at its best. You know, nothing

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<v Speaker 3>affects your brain more than being dehydrated as a very

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<v Speaker 3>simple tool, you know, making sure that you're staying well

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<v Speaker 3>hydrated is absolutely key for your brain performance. So now

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<v Speaker 3>we've we've you know, got to a stage where we

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<v Speaker 3>still don't understand every connection to the brain, but we

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<v Speaker 3>now understand it is partly the nutrients. So the brain

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<v Speaker 3>needs specific nutrients. It needs iron for example, it needs iodine,

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<v Speaker 3>iodines and nutrient that's really flown under the radar unless

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<v Speaker 3>you're pregnant, because it's been recognized iodines essential for brain

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<v Speaker 3>development in the fetus, but then also in young infants.

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<v Speaker 3>So we've suddenly seen, oh, well, if you're taking a

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<v Speaker 3>pregnancy supplement, you'll see that they've all got iodine in

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<v Speaker 3>them now. But other than that sort of around pregnancy

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<v Speaker 3>and young children, I being largely ignored. But actually we

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<v Speaker 3>know iodine deficiency lowers your IQ.

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<v Speaker 4>When you think of it like.

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<v Speaker 3>That, you go, oh, my goodness, you actually your nutrition

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<v Speaker 3>is so important. And then we've got you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>long chain amegas refats. We've got a whole lot of

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<v Speaker 3>research studies now showing long chain omegas rays and a

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<v Speaker 3>combination of bigrot vitamins is essential for your brain health

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<v Speaker 3>going forward and can reduce your risk of cognitive decline

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<v Speaker 3>as you get older.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's these.

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<v Speaker 3>Nutrients that are clearly really really important. And then we've

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<v Speaker 3>got the fuels. Your brain is a huge I always

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<v Speaker 3>call it a greedy, a glucose greedy organ because it

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<v Speaker 3>uses up so much of the glucose in your blood.

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<v Speaker 3>It can also use ketones, so I know people doing

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<v Speaker 3>ketogenic diets are going to argue that well, ketones are

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<v Speaker 3>really important for the brain. There's some elements of truth

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<v Speaker 3>in that, but that's that becomes especially important if your

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<v Speaker 3>brain has some sort of disorder like epilepsy, or it's

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<v Speaker 3>even being researched for things like chronic migraines that can't

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<v Speaker 3>be treated, and that might be a situation where brain cells.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the hypothesis is those brain cells are in

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<v Speaker 3>some way malfunctioning and not able to use glucose as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So therefore the secondary fuel of ketones might become important

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<v Speaker 3>and then your brain's working better. But whether that has

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<v Speaker 3>any impact on healthy people is another matter. So for

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<v Speaker 3>most of us, if your brain's healthy, it wants glucose,

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<v Speaker 3>It runs well in glucose.

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<v Speaker 4>But you want a nice steady stream of.

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<v Speaker 3>Glucose going into your blood fueling your brain. And mentioned hydration,

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<v Speaker 3>and you mentioned exercise.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a great slide I put up when I

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<v Speaker 3>do this a corporate talk about brain performance. And there's

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<v Speaker 3>a brilliant slide of a scan of a brain showing

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<v Speaker 3>activity in the brain before and after just doing a

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<v Speaker 3>brisk walk or you know, running up and down the

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<v Speaker 3>stairwell in your office, or you know, just stimulating your

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<v Speaker 3>brain because it gets blood flow glowing and you see

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<v Speaker 3>the brain light up.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you've got to get your.

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<v Speaker 3>Brain powered up, or you're feeling in a slump and

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<v Speaker 3>you've got that three o'clock slump, head outside and have

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<v Speaker 3>a quick walk. Also, getting some sunlight's going to be helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so so much. You're an absolute gym. I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 2>Our guest today is an absolute expert when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to talking to women, particularly women in their thirties, forty

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<v Speaker 2>fifties and sixties, is none other than doctor Libby Weaver,

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<v Speaker 2>who let me just read these credentials out because wowsers

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<v Speaker 2>a nutritional biochemist, thirteen yes one three thirteen times best

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<v Speaker 2>selling author books like The Energy Guide, Women's Wellness Wisdom,

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<v Speaker 2>and Rushing Woman Syndrome. Libby Weaver, Welcome to the WOODLFE

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<v Speaker 2>and thanks so much for joining us.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh it's a pleasure, Sam, thanks for having me join you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how you talk about dealing with stress. Our audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, we have men that listen to the show

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<v Speaker 2>and they will absolutely benefit from this chat, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt about it. But our audience would be sort

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<v Speaker 2>of eighty percent women, and through my twenty eight program,

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<v Speaker 2>which is one of those bikini body programs, it's you

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<v Speaker 2>know women particularly you know, late twenties sort through to

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<v Speaker 2>late fifties, early sixties. Even where would you like to

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<v Speaker 2>start with how you've been able to help this particular

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<v Speaker 2>demographic from a stress dealing with stress perspective.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you, that's so generous. So I originally studied nutrition

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<v Speaker 5>and dietetics and then did honors and then did a

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<v Speaker 5>PhD in biochemistry. So there's lots of geeky signs in

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<v Speaker 5>my background. But since then, I've worked with people one

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<v Speaker 5>on one for over twenty years. And I've combined fourteen

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<v Speaker 5>years at university with twenty plus years of working one

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<v Speaker 5>on one with people to create a three pillar approach

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<v Speaker 5>where I look at the biochemistry, and nutrition and emotions.

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<v Speaker 5>So stress comes into all three of those categories. So,

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<v Speaker 5>for example, when we go into a stress response, obviously

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<v Speaker 5>our two main stress hormones are adrenaline and cortisol. They

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<v Speaker 5>activate a part of the nervous system, the sympathetic nervous system,

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<v Speaker 5>which is essentially the fight or flight response. And I'm

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<v Speaker 5>sure or most of your listeners know this stuff, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's a part of the autonomic nervous system, so we

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<v Speaker 5>can't instruct it, we can't boss it around. And when

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<v Speaker 5>we go into that fight or flight response, there's no

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<v Speaker 5>problem with that as long as we can come out

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<v Speaker 5>of it and activate the other branch of our nervous system,

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<v Speaker 5>which is the parasympathetic nervous system, the calm arm. So

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<v Speaker 5>we want to be a really healthy person just swings

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<v Speaker 5>between those two branches. And the challenge I find, particularly

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<v Speaker 5>for a lot of women today's they get stuck in

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<v Speaker 5>the fight or flight response. They get stuck with that

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<v Speaker 5>sympathetic nervous system activation. And I wrote a book in

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<v Speaker 5>twenty eleven called, which I can't believe is twelve years ago,

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<v Speaker 5>but I wrote a book in twenty eleven called Rushing

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<v Speaker 5>Woman Syndrome, basically describing this and the health consequences of

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<v Speaker 5>always living in a rush and always living with the

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<v Speaker 5>perception that everything is urgent and that there's a huge

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<v Speaker 5>amount of pressure, and the way that activates the sympathetic

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<v Speaker 5>nervous system, which is the fight or flight response, and

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<v Speaker 5>how there's no problem with that if we spend a

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<v Speaker 5>bit of time there, but when we're really healthy, we

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<v Speaker 5>can swing into that fight or flight response, that sympathetic

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<v Speaker 5>nervous system activation, and then come out of it and

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<v Speaker 5>activate what I call the green zone, the parasympathetic nervous system,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a really calm arm. And the challenges that

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<v Speaker 5>I was seeing with more and more of my female

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<v Speaker 5>clients was that they were stuck in that sympathetic nervous

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<v Speaker 5>system and then all of the health consequences that that

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<v Speaker 5>was driving. So obviously, when we're really stressed, it disrupts

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<v Speaker 5>our sleep, it changes the fuel preferences for the body,

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<v Speaker 5>so it's a lot harder for us to use body

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<v Speaker 5>fat efficiently is a fuel we use primarily glucose. We

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<v Speaker 5>then crave sugar when we're producing a lot of stress hormones.

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<v Speaker 5>It disrupts our blood ability to regulate our blood glucose.

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<v Speaker 5>We can end up experiencing insulin resistance and all of

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<v Speaker 5>the concerns that then come with that. So the list

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<v Speaker 5>is kind of endless. But Sam, I'm one of those

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<v Speaker 5>people who wants to follow absolutely everything to the last,

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<v Speaker 5>take it as far as I can get right to

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<v Speaker 5>the heart of something. And in twenty nineteen I wrote

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<v Speaker 5>a book called The Invisible Load where I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>change the conversation around stress, and I very much wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to acknowledge that there was very real and genuine stress

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<v Speaker 5>in the world and in people's lives. But there's also

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<v Speaker 5>a huge amount of stress that we create for ourselves

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<v Speaker 5>because of how we think, and that's the part we

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<v Speaker 5>can change. So I'm always really curious about the beliefs

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<v Speaker 5>people have, and it was partly why I wanted to

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<v Speaker 5>write The Invisible Load and change the conversations we were

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<v Speaker 5>having about stress, so that instead of it being this

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<v Speaker 5>thing we've got to manage, we look at what it

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<v Speaker 5>really is. So, just as an example, before I wrote

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<v Speaker 5>that book, I ran some focus groups with women and

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<v Speaker 5>the youngest group they were aged eighteen to twenty five,

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<v Speaker 5>and I asked them for their two biggest stresses, and

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<v Speaker 5>by far and away, in all the eighteen to twenty

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<v Speaker 5>five year old groups, it was body image and social media.

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<v Speaker 5>And when I share that with older audiences, they don't

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<v Speaker 5>understand it. So I hear them laugh, I hear them

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<v Speaker 5>tut tut. It's just so familiar to them. How can

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<v Speaker 5>social media be stressful? So when I asked the group

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<v Speaker 5>aged thirty five to fifty five what stressed them out.

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<v Speaker 5>One of the most common things that came out was

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<v Speaker 5>running late. Now, if you think about running late, it's

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<v Speaker 5>not in and of itself stressful. What makes that stressful is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, or we might be going to we might

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<v Speaker 5>be going to a conference, and we don't want to

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<v Speaker 5>miss the first speaker. So there can be a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of fomo in running late, But mostly what stresses us

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<v Speaker 5>out about running late is that we're stressed about what

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<v Speaker 5>the person who'll be on the receiving end of our

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<v Speaker 5>running late is going to think of us. So if

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<v Speaker 5>we can realize that, if we get really worked up

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<v Speaker 5>and recognize that we're stressed, instead of just sitting in

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<v Speaker 5>the stress and reciting to yourself, I'm so stressed. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>so stressed, if you can pause and think, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 5>is this really about? I can see that I care

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<v Speaker 5>very much what my boss or one of my colleagues

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<v Speaker 5>thinks of me. And the reason that inside is helpful

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<v Speaker 5>is it changes how you then show up. So instead

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<v Speaker 5>of bursting into the meeting really stressed and letting that

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<v Speaker 5>permeate the group, you might have a conversation with your

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<v Speaker 5>colleague or your boss at the end and say, look,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so sorry I was late. It's really important to

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<v Speaker 5>me that you know that I value my job. I

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<v Speaker 5>work as hard as I can, I try to be

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<v Speaker 5>as efficient as I can. They're just going to welcome

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<v Speaker 5>your dedication and your commitment with that conversation and thank

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<v Speaker 5>yousitive yeah exactly, and then the stress that the person's

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<v Speaker 5>experiencing completely dissipates because you've named what it really is.

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<v Speaker 5>So the older group, they don't understand why social media

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<v Speaker 5>is stressful because they use social media to catch up

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<v Speaker 5>with their friends in Perth when they live on the

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<v Speaker 5>East Coast, or they watch funny dog videos, so it's entertainment,

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<v Speaker 5>whereas for the younger group, it's one of the ways

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<v Speaker 5>they obtain approval from others. And so part of what

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<v Speaker 5>I try to help people explore or consider when they

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<v Speaker 5>feel really stressed, is is it real or genuine stress

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<v Speaker 5>or is it coming from your perception that others are

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<v Speaker 5>either disapproving of you in the moment or that they

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<v Speaker 5>will be disapproving of you if you don't do X

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<v Speaker 5>y Z. Because that's coming from our thinking and we

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<v Speaker 5>can change that and it's quite game changing when we

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<v Speaker 5>start to see that a lot of our rushing, a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of our stress comes from the fact that we

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<v Speaker 5>care about others. Absolutely, it comes from a beautiful place,

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<v Speaker 5>from a beautiful heart. But we don't just care about others.

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<v Speaker 5>We actually also care what they think of us, and

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<v Speaker 5>that's we've got to dig into that to really change

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<v Speaker 5>our stress response.

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<v Speaker 2>And you mentioned this, you said, you know, we're in

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<v Speaker 2>the sympathetic nervous system where it's all we're all flighty

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<v Speaker 2>and stressed. And the idea is when we're in a

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<v Speaker 2>healthy space, we can get into what you call the

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<v Speaker 2>green zone, and we can flip into the parasympathetic If

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't happen naturally, if we're not good at flipping

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<v Speaker 2>from our bad zone to our good zone, what are

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<v Speaker 2>some things that we can do from within to get

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<v Speaker 2>us into that zone.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, very much so, sad so, because the sympathetic nervous

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<v Speaker 5>system and the parasympathetic nervous system, so the red zone

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<v Speaker 5>and the green zone for ease of remembering, because they're

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<v Speaker 5>part of what's called the autonomic nervous system. Which all

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<v Speaker 5>people need to understand about that is that you can't

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<v Speaker 5>boss it around, you can't instruct it. We can't be

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<v Speaker 5>sitting there with bucket loads of adrenaline zooming through our blood,

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<v Speaker 5>sitting at our computer with six hundred unopened emails and

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<v Speaker 5>having had four coffees already in the morning, with all

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<v Speaker 5>the adrenaline behind that. We can't just sit at our

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<v Speaker 5>desk and go, oh, just chill out, man, you know

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<v Speaker 5>it's all good. You can't override it with your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>So the only thing that science has currently shown that

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<v Speaker 5>allows us to influence getting out of the red zone

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<v Speaker 5>and into the green zone is extending the length of

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<v Speaker 5>our exhalation. So I think it's partly why things like

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<v Speaker 5>yoga and other breath focus practices have become so popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that work proactively and reactively?

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<v Speaker 4>Look?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that yes?

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<v Speaker 5>So when it's a genuine threat to your life. So

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<v Speaker 5>if a car drives out in front of you and

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<v Speaker 5>you've got a slam on your brakes, it's not going

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<v Speaker 5>to pull you out of that quicker, but your recovery

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<v Speaker 5>will be quicker. So where it's really beneficial is if

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<v Speaker 5>you watch a little baby breathe. They breathe in and

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<v Speaker 5>out through their cute little nostrils, and their little belly

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<v Speaker 5>goes up with their belly expands with the inhalation and

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<v Speaker 5>then it shrinks back towards their spine when they exhale,

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<v Speaker 5>So that's obviously diafromatic breathing. And when we breathe in

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<v Speaker 5>that way, we communicate to every cell in our body

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<v Speaker 5>that we're safe, because we wouldn't be able to breathe

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<v Speaker 5>like that if our life was truly in danger, because

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<v Speaker 5>the idea of short, shallow breaths is that it increases

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<v Speaker 5>blood pressure. It diverts the blood away from our digestive

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<v Speaker 5>system to our periphery, to our arms and our legs,

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<v Speaker 5>because that allows us to do the fight or flight response.

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<v Speaker 5>But you can hear in what I've just said that

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<v Speaker 5>digestion is compromised when we're in the fight or flight response.

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<v Speaker 5>And certainly in Australia, one in five women have irritable

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<v Speaker 5>bowel syndrome and food plays a role in that very much,

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<v Speaker 5>But so does this stress response, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 5>that's talked about enough. And then of course it changes

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<v Speaker 5>the fuel that you're going to use in that moment.

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<v Speaker 5>It shifts your preference away from using fat as a

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<v Speaker 5>fuel to primarily using glucose because that's your fast burning fuel.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the one that's going to give you the fast

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<v Speaker 5>energy to get out of the danger your body thinks

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<v Speaker 5>it's in and you need all of that to happen

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<v Speaker 5>if your life's literally in danger. But the problem with

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<v Speaker 5>modern life, obviously is that we might have high circulating

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<v Speaker 5>levels of adrenaline and be in this red zone in

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<v Speaker 5>the sympathetic nervous system activation. We might be in that

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<v Speaker 5>place because we've had a few coffees, because block your

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<v Speaker 5>ears everyone, Caffeine leads us to produce adrenaline. Our perceptions

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<v Speaker 5>of pressure and urgency can lead us, obviously to produce adrenaline.

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<v Speaker 5>Now I'm not saying for a second that there aren't

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<v Speaker 5>things that aren't urgent.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course there are.

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<v Speaker 5>If you get a phone call from school that your

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<v Speaker 5>child's been injured, that's urgent. You want to get there

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<v Speaker 5>as quickly as you can. But what a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>us do is we've made what we get to do

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<v Speaker 5>each day full of pressure and urgency, and we forget that.

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<v Speaker 5>We can choose to see it in a different way.

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<v Speaker 5>Even though it might be a busy day, it might

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<v Speaker 5>be a jam pack day. We can choose to see

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<v Speaker 5>that as something that we've got to live it with intensity,

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<v Speaker 5>or we can just do it and execute it and

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<v Speaker 5>live it and actually enjoy it. So we forget though

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<v Speaker 5>that we get to choose that. And then the third

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<v Speaker 5>big area that leads us to produce adrenaline is worrying

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<v Speaker 5>what consciously or unconsciously, worrying what other people think of

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<v Speaker 5>us in the light that we just spoke about a

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<v Speaker 5>moment ago. So to the tools to get us out

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<v Speaker 5>of the red zone and into the green zone. Some

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<v Speaker 5>people do really well when they decrease what's activating the

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<v Speaker 5>red zone caffeine, exploring perceptions of pressure and urgency, and

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<v Speaker 5>really diving into that inner work of worrying about seeking

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<v Speaker 5>the approval of others basically, and then other people they

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to look at that. They would rather just

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<v Speaker 5>become a lot more breath aware, and so then you

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<v Speaker 5>live a lot more from that place of diafromatic breathing,

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<v Speaker 5>longer exhalations, and then you notice it very quickly when

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<v Speaker 5>you've come out of it when it's not necessary. So

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<v Speaker 5>you might be in a board meeting and you think, oh,

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<v Speaker 5>I've gone into this heightened response. Okay, I can slow

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<v Speaker 5>my breathing down because I'm safe I'm just worried, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>about some feedback on possibly about to get but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>actually really safe, so I'll communicate to that to my

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<v Speaker 5>body through my breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so so much. What's your website called? Just

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<v Speaker 2>for people if they want a bit more information, give

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<v Speaker 2>yourself a plug.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Sam, It's doctor Libby dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Libby, thanks so much for joining us on the

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<v Speaker 2>Woodlife and speak to you soon.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a joy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks hep, Sam, thanks as always so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Please please, please, as always let me know if there's

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<v Speaker 2>any topics that you would like to discuss, any experts

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<v Speaker 2>you would like us to interview. Leave us a little

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<v Speaker 2>voice note. There's a link in the show notes. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>chat to you next week.