1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: We would be seeing the men at work side, said 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: twelve hundred people, the men at work to be down 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: the road. 4 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: Not only did the people party and the venues, but 5 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: the bands. It was a way of our cozy and 6 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: lisas to the pub draw. 7 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Before there was the injectors, there was innocent bystanders, and 8 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: before he was Diesel, he was Mark Lazotti is all 9 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: those things and he's joining us this morning on the 10 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: pub crawl. 11 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: Hello mate, welcome, Hey, thanks. 12 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: We are having the most wonderful time reminiscing with all 13 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: your mates from back in the day. Intertent Bierstanders were 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: one of the few original acts in Perth in the eighties. 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: We are smart Donahue from the Frames the other day 16 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: about the pressure to perform covers at that time, and 17 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: he said, there was Did you feel that pressure as. 18 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: Well, the different sort of a hierarchy with the venues. 19 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: I remember just you know, our agent, our managers kind 20 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: of like I try to explain to us that those 21 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: those particular venues were reserved for the cover bands on 22 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: those nights, and we're talking finals on Saturdays, the biggest 23 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: nights of the week, and you know, it was kind 24 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 3: of just we just kind of had to accept it 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: that we weren't going to get into those sort of venues. 26 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: But you know, we gave we gave everything a good shake. 27 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: As far as being a band that played our own songs, 28 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 3: you know, we came very close to like nudging in 29 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 3: the band that were playing the top forty. I think 30 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 3: I've seen a songwriter I mentioned. I think you mentioned 31 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: them when the song I think you called them Radio 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: the bands yea in one of the songs. You know, 33 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: it's like this was this was not happening exclusively and 34 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: perfant It was happening in other parts of the country 35 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: and the other parts of the world, you know, you know, 36 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: whether it's whether it's Brisbane or the Philippines or whatever. 37 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: In the band that are really good at playing other 38 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: people songs that I've always in the band still are today. Yeah, 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 3: it's an incredible thing. I remember walking into a place 40 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: in Thailand actually where I'm calling from today, and thinking 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: that I was listening to recording music when I walked 42 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: into this venue and I looked and I saw people playing, 43 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: and I stood in the quate to my head, it 44 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: was so tight and so good at reproducing every nuance 45 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: of a record down to the delays and made me 46 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: affect the voice in them and which is they were 47 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: doing really wow, you know it was it was really 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: like it just walked my head and I thought, you know, 49 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 3: this is these are people who have really spent time 50 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: and really really taking a lot of pride in their crafts. 51 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 3: So you know, like it's one thing going, yeah, we're 52 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: going to learn that song and play it the next night. 53 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: It was sort of a half hours shell. But to 54 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: do it really, I mean, for me when I played 55 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: it in the bank called the Kind, which was just 56 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: before I left Perfect Constantolabor and we were doing the 57 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 3: adjectivecy like one night a week. It really forced me 58 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 3: to have to learn other people's stuff. And I realized 59 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: even though I was classically brought up and ever in 60 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: playing cello, and then I went to guitar late in 61 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: life around fourteen, it really was. It was an eye 62 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: opener and a kind of crumbling thing for me because 63 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: I realized that I've been like a free range chicken 64 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: just running around a mark, running amuck. And I thought 65 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 3: I knew a lot about guitar, but it made me 66 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: realize how little I I actually knew about not just 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 3: the Carbot music and arrangements and called progressions and stuff, 68 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: and learning other people's songs was like boot camp for me, 69 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 3: and it really humbled me. And I thought, you know what, 70 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: I don't really actually know that much at all. You know, 71 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: I had to really bunk it down because I'm a perfectionist. 72 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: I don't because if I hear something in my ear, 73 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: I want to get it completely right. I don't want 74 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: to just do a faction really that. I want it 75 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: to be really accurate, and I really want to copy 76 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: the feel of it as well, not just the technicalities 77 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: of like, yeah, that's a tune seven whatever, blah blah. 78 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: I want to I want to get every nuance of 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: what someone else has done, and then I can get 80 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: inside it and then I can make it my own, 81 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: if that makes sense. 82 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike, you're talking about that thing with Kevin bands. 83 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: It's a classic example. That was Journey. Neil Sean from 84 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: Journey went to the Philippines and found Unnel, their new 85 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: singer playing, you know, to replace Steve Perry. I mean 86 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: it was a classic example, wasn't it. 87 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now the Philippines have it, they're almost like it's 88 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: like Jamaica takes pride in being like one two three 89 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: on the on the track and field. They always get 90 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: one two three placement in any huntry of the middle race. 91 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's the big take part of being like 92 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: making it like the best cover like musicians in the world, 93 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 3: as far as like being able to replicate and deal 94 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: it with absolutely new all the nuance. 95 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know you played the cello, by the way, 96 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: that's my favorite instrument. 97 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: In the whole world. 98 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: Now, you were only a teenager when you started out. 99 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: Were you ever technically still underage when you were playing 100 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: in the park? 101 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Must have been, oh. 102 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to be technically underage. It was pretty relaxed 103 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: back then, and after we get to know the venues 104 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 3: and the people I've worked on the stuff, you know, 105 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: I would always venture out on Mondays and Tuesdays, and 106 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 3: that was an amazing thing about the sceneback then, in 107 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: you know, eighty five, eighty six, at eighty seven, there 108 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: were bands playing on Monday nights. An amazing band some 109 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: of some of the more interesting bands to me, at 110 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: least bands that were playing more you know, kind of 111 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 3: blues bassed and sold based, but ban called the Zeros, 112 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: which were an incredible band, played a lot of their 113 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 3: own songs as well. Going and seeing them was an 114 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 3: education for me, and I feel like a lot of 115 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: what I learned was just from coming off the stage 116 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: and then going and watching other people on the nights 117 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 3: that I had off, And so I was almost out 118 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: every night of the week. And then you do it 119 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: back then, you could actually go out on a Wednesday 120 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: pump Day, You go out on home days and have 121 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: a choice of not just one band, but many bands. 122 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: You know. This is also a time when when every 123 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: suburb in a tribe in theater as well. 124 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 125 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it got turned into real estate and every every 126 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: every suburb had a pub that opened this towards to 127 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: music before popies and bistros and kind of critique all 128 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: of those turns down that are so familiar and so 129 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: kind of secondhand. Was how do we draw people into 130 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: our establishment? That was a question, and it was like, 131 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 3: how do we get people in here to spend money? Oh, music, 132 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 3: that's that's how we get people in. It was a 133 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: really similar question back then. 134 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right about you had bands playing places like 135 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: the Generator at Molly It's not there, the Warrick Hotel 136 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 4: out there, all place me. 137 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: The best aspect of that and which is the status 138 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 3: and when you lose it is that it's actually the 139 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: element of community that that brings to as well. Yes, 140 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: bringing people together like that, there's only if you other 141 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 3: things to do that want you know, the legion of course, 142 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: football or any sport in general and musically. You know, 143 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: there's very few things that bring people together that are 144 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: total strangers and they become fans and it's community and 145 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: it's healthy and yeah, I call it a healthy escapism. 146 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 3: But you know, I mean that's kind of what it is. 147 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: You know, if you're at home and you find yourself 148 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: driving past the Herdsman where you had a Monday night residency, 149 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: does it bring back the memories? 150 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: Oh? Completely? I mean I'm struggling to It's like I'll 151 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: drive to an area now on Perpoins like have these 152 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: flashbacks and playing on is familiar, and then I'll see 153 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: the venue and it's like and then it's like, oh, 154 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: that's really different. It's been renovated. When I have to 155 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: question and I'll see something, it's like, oh no, now 156 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 3: I recognize it is like something that's left that you 157 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: can recognize. But a lot of them have had complete 158 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 3: facelifts were. 159 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: Out there at all. 160 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: Care higher and that's scary. 161 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: Well there you go, Yeah, that makes sense. 162 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: Can't Tending back to the childs the beloved child's, I 163 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: tell us still doing gigs and they still got to 164 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: still got the vicing block over the road. I think 165 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: that tree is still having there. Mind, you told me 166 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: a story about a tree over there once had some 167 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: something to do with you having a big night. 168 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: You remember, well there was, yeah, there was, there's a 169 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: park across the road there and I was like my 170 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: band actually the first when we pull up there, and 171 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 3: they're always quick to remind me because I told them 172 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: at one point and they thought it was pretty funny. 173 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: And I told a lot of stories, and you know 174 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: vice versa, always telling each other stories. But for some 175 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: reason that one, it's like they'd like to rub it 176 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 3: in there. Should we park me your favorite tree? And 177 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: that's where, you know, it's like the old classic thing 178 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: and like you've had how many drinks and then someone 179 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: offers you something to maybe have a puff on, and 180 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: you get worse. Gran that happened to the world. It's 181 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: just gone off as. 182 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, now your songs with the advice staated your songs 183 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: were very localized. You did songs about Scarborough and down 184 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: South and beaches and hot summers. 185 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: No one else was really doing that at the time. 186 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: Was good, wasn't he? 187 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: Look? You know, I was really in a very comfortable 188 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: bosom of an amazing song that he was. He came 189 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 3: out of his bedroom, like I met him through the 190 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: Sunday Times newspaper. That was like how I was meeting 191 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 3: a lot of people back then when I was thirteen 192 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: and fourteen. I would get the Sunday Paper on a 193 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: Saturday night, ringing and annoying, like parents and housemates and stuff. 194 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 3: They'd like, look, they're not home, just go away, call 195 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: back tomorrow. I'll be that king. I met Bret to 196 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: the Sunday Paper when we started hanging out. I was 197 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: like fourteen and he was study twenty one, so he 198 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 3: was like a mentor for me and yeah, and he 199 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: had incredible knack of just like folding in what was around. 200 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 3: He had really great song writer influences too, of course, 201 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, he kind of really carried that Australian 202 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: tradition of kind of like a Paul Kelly or a Don 203 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 3: Walker sort of about what was happening around. And also 204 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: things that were happening that, you know, like the gentrification 205 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: of Scarborough for instance, discover a hotel and you know, 206 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: he was the first one to tell me about the 207 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: Sunday morning session down at discavera beach hotel, and was like, 208 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 3: what it was a Sunday morning what that's like the 209 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 3: most hardcore thing I can imagine. And his band that 210 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: he had a band before instances he used to play 211 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: that Sunday morning session. That's how he cut his teeth. 212 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: And it was it was like it was a different time. 213 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 3: I mean, where else could you go on the world 214 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: and go and be on on Sunday morning listen to 215 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: a band amongst like a bunch of bikers and hippies 216 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: basically like when hippis was actually a thing and all 217 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 3: getting on together, you know, or until someone's back to 218 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: poque over someone's head. But Monday morning, Sunday mornings were 219 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 3: pretty mellow and it was just like the tradition thing, 220 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: you know, Snday morning session and then you go and 221 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: have a big breakfast after that or maybe vice versa. 222 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 3: I come up what was? But it was like that 223 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: was how that's what you did? 224 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: That other thing more. 225 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: It makes my knees, we can think about drinking a 226 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: beer and any morning. 227 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: Now, the Sunday Session, you know, Sunday afternoon session. I 228 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: mean that was a thing of that time too, and 229 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: that was you know, but I'm pretty sure that people 230 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: just saw it as a the pub's going to close 231 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: it eight, I've got to drink as much as. 232 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: I can, and you've got to milk the rest of 233 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 2: the weekend because to work. 234 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, were they the maddest of the shows to do, 235 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: that Sunday session. 236 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, there's something about the Sunday afternoon session 237 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: that was a gateway to kicking on basically that you'd 238 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: come out in the summer time, especially like a bit 239 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 3: of daylight left. Yes, so you'd be like, hey, let's 240 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 3: let's go and grab a burger and then just whose 241 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: place are we're going to? What are we doing now? 242 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: Kind of thing? And of course being Sunday, that the 243 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: night would kind of cap off because it's a Sunday night. 244 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: But it was the biggest party night, always the biggest 245 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: party night. Yeah, without a doubt, it was a night 246 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 3: that all we've ended up going into Monday morning. 247 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, who was the first person who called you diesel 248 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 4: and did that nine come from your bass player? From 249 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: Johnny Delzel or that was what did that initiated? It 250 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 4: was from john It was. 251 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 3: Well that was one before that clear up that please, 252 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: what do you go? I did work in a convenience 253 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 3: Go yeah, the name the name did come from you 254 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: were actually a band that didn't have a name. And 255 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: I started writing songs because, like I said before, I 256 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: was I was in a really kind of, you know, 257 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: comfortable situation where I had someone in the band writing 258 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: all of the songs and I was just putting my 259 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 3: spin on it the guitar and a few backing vocals. 260 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: But after that I had to actually stand on my 261 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 3: one two feet and start writing and having you know, 262 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: fronting my own band. Was was, you know, at the 263 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: age of eighteen, was you know, challenge for me. But 264 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: I was definitely up for the challenge. I wanted something 265 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 3: to happen in that direction. But you know, it was 266 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: it was like baby steps. And so we started doing 267 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: these these one gig a week to sit kind of 268 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: and we called it like a hobby bad you know, 269 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 3: and see what happened to and you know, I make 270 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: a joke about saying that at eighteen dollars, washed up 271 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: and jaded for like four years. Yeah, and actually broke 272 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 3: you know, been playing that, you know, I distruggling toil, 273 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: like just everything I could move was two garbage bags 274 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: and I had like one guitar and ramping a couple 275 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: of pedals in it was me and drown her dollar 276 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: holding target that used to blow chunks out the back 277 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: and had we'll be strown. That would's a miracle. I 278 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 3: him die driving it and things like that. 279 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 2: So good time. 280 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was one of those cases of 281 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: like we got a call from the lovely lady that 282 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: books the venue and she was just trying to help us, 283 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: and she said, he that's got a name. I said, well, 284 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 3: I'm not really. She said, well, I want to put 285 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: an ad in the paper because you're drawing like two 286 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: people on a cockroad, and you know you could do it. 287 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: You could do a bit of help, you know. And 288 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: I just heard this fan about Speed. He's coming over 289 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: and the couple's house car sharing with Johnny and his 290 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 3: ben Mike Chan and I had a couple of kids 291 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: reading and Jane found out that he was she was 292 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: pregnant again and he he'd her the news Speed and 293 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: he was, oh, that's pretty cool, little Johnny Dee need 294 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 3: woden inject and saying to his kids, you know, and 295 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: the objectives an integral part of the truck engine of 296 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 3: course anywhere. That's cute. And I was done. I was 297 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: actually sitting on the floor changing strings by my guitar 298 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: and ah, yeah, funny. And then she called back and 299 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: I said, actually, I do have the name, and I 300 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: gave that name just to put in the paper to humor. 301 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: That's great, basically John and he saw it and was 302 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 3: like you idiots, you know, ha ha, you know. He 303 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: was embarrassing and whatever. I think a little bit. And 304 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: then and then the next week came and it didn't 305 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: get changed, and then on and on and on, and 306 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 3: I think a few months later, I mean, when we 307 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: met our first manager, you know, branch Echoes, and he 308 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: was the one that that navigated us across the noboy 309 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: he's like, well, what are you guys are going to 310 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: addis your name? And we're like, yeah, I gat. So 311 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 3: he's like and then he said to me, He's like, well, 312 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 3: you know, you're going to have to go along with 313 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: this because everyone thinks that is you, because you're in 314 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: the middle of the stage singing the song. Yeah, okay 315 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: whatever you know at that point it's hard to imagine, 316 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 3: but the sex was so low I was I was 317 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: just completely about it. And then of course gettings escalated 318 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 3: in the mid space of like eighteen months, and then 319 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: you know, I've been trying to explain to everybody ever 320 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 3: since it's actually wasn't me. Good luck with that, right, 321 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: good luck with that? It was named after him. 322 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: Coming back to Perth in November with the show at 323 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: the heath Ledger Theater as part of a new tour. 324 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's taken me like a year to get around 325 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 3: the country. I've been doing a lot of regional which 326 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: is fantastic. I love these regional theaters and I've only 327 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: heard incredible things about the heath Ledger of theaters. Very 328 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 3: road to get, you know, booking in because it's just 329 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: books so solid. So I'm really really excited to be 330 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: playing such a beautiful. 331 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful room is standing there. It's just incredible. 332 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: Yes, you can catch Diesel at the heath Ledger Theater 333 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: November eight. Tickets are available through Arts Culture Trust dot 334 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: w A dot gov. Dot AU has been an absolute 335 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: treat to reminisce with you the small. 336 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 4: And wonderful to wind the clock back. Yeah, last time 337 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 4: I saw you was at French Friends restaurant, playing a 338 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: gig to about fifty people, and it was one of 339 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 4: those nights of world class rock made. I just got 340 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: to say that because you left the gig you would 341 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 4: thank you good night, and you walked out. Didn't get 342 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 4: to shake your hand, but it was sensational. So looking 343 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 4: forward to seeing you this time. 344 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: Mark, Thank you so much, Thanks bad, thank thank you, 345 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: Bye bye all men. Yeah, thanks for time, don't forget. 346 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: If you have any memories to share, feel free to 347 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: text us on zero four seven six ninety six ninety 348 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: six ninety six, and if you have any photos from 349 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: the time you would like to share with us, send 350 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: us a Facebook message or email us at breakfast at 351 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: ninety six FM dot com dot au. 352 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: I love it story. Look at little Johnny Diesel in 353 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: these objectives and it's little injectors so good.