1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing Hot Seat. In this EPP, I 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: fire rapid questions at one of our fearlessly failing guests. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 2: PS. 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not so good 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: at the rapid part. I get too intrigued by the 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: awesome answers. Now a new EPP is going to drop 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: every Wednesday, so enjoy this shortest style episode of Fearlessly 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: Failing Hot Seat. Steph Bremm, Welcome to the hot Seat. 9 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: Congrats on your own pod, my friend. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. How exciting do you know? 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: You were my first ever guest on Feels Failing? You 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: came out EP two, mate, but I was your first 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: record or my first recording, and you we have come 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: full circle because you were the first recording for me. 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: There we go. Okay, so this is hot Seat. Okay, 16 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: welcome back. I feel like I'm on a game show. 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: It feels a bit game show vibes. Okay. 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: Full name Stephanie Jane Prem. Do you have a fear many? 19 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: I think everyone does. I mean, we just you. It's 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: your life's work. But like the fear of failure, I 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: think is solid, is solid for most of us, but 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: it's also like a massive driver for me, if that 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: makes sense. So it's negative, but it's a positive. It's 24 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: like most of the time when I'm oh, I like 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: that told I can't do something, I often do it. 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: So I think that's been something a big one for me. 27 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: I don't have any like fears of like I mean, 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: I'm come from action sports, so like jumping out of 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: planes and yeah, I'm doing that kind of stuff. I 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: love adventure. But no, I don't have like not arachnophobia 31 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: or anything weird. It's more just like for me, it's like, 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: you know, probably. 33 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: I'm just driven. 34 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I like that I can fully relate to 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: what's something that's moved you recently. 36 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: Could be a book, a movie, a moment. I think 37 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: I've had. 38 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Many moving moments lately. I mean, if it's like, because 39 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: I know you're so into this of film and TV 40 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: at the moment, really, what's it called real people? 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't know it. Oh my gosh, it's like you're 42 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: about to say real house fives. 43 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: No, No, oh my gosh, real people. It's just like 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: that was the most moving thing I've seen in a 45 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: very long time. 46 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: But also think I've had my. 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Own moments of movement lately, just because I've moved overseas 48 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: to London and like, I mean a new relationship and 49 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: there's just been like so many like moving moments lately 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: which have been so nice and I think they're like 51 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: a reminder that you're, you know, moving forward, and oh 52 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: I like that. 53 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you have a favorite movie? You and I 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: share the same movie? I'm sure of it. 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, hang on, is it The Holiday? Oh yeah, 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: that's my favorite Crimbo movie. 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, my favorite Christmas movie? And rom Com. 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: Do you know Jack Black lives on my street? 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: No? Yeah, I've seen him, seen him walkan my eye contact. 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: I just want to come back as Cameron Diaz in 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: my next life. 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: So you've got Cameron Diaz. 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: There's so many deeper movies, but like, if I ever 64 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: just need to switch off or be in a better headspace, 65 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: that there's that scene in The Holiday with Cameron Diaz 66 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: in the supermarket that just makes me scream, like squeal 67 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: like also that scores great. Yeah, that's a really it's 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: hand zim. That's a really nice movie score. 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: What about a book? Do you have a favor book 70 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: or a book you've read. 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: Recently that you like, I'm currently reading Rise by Lindsay Vaughn. 72 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: She's my favorite athlete in the world and she's just 73 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: released a book, so I've I've just started her book 74 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: and it's she's the number one skier in the world 75 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: around like did a lot for female sports, so it's 76 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: very relatable for me. And I'm just like I'm reading 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: it's a bit like close to home reading it, like 78 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: I but it's it's it's very good. 79 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, all right, love. 80 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: I love that question because I'm like, I'm building this 81 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: list of things to read now. Yes, selfishly, Tools at 82 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: the time is probably my favorite book. Yeah, you can 83 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: just always go back to, is that? Tim Tim Paris? Yeah, beautiful. 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 2: Okay. What is something on your bucket list you haven't 85 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: done yet? Ooh, great question. It's travel related. For me. 86 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: Bucket list is always like places I. 87 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: Want to go back from Greece, haven't you. I just 88 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: got back from Greece. I'd never been. I haven't done it. 89 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: Summer destinations, right, So I had chased had eleven winters 90 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: back to back, eleven years of. 91 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: Chasing the winters and an Olympic snowboard. 92 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: It was my life for so long, so obvious summer 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: locations I'm now discovering in my late thirties, like to 94 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: Loom Hawaii. I love how you keep saying late thirties. 95 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: You've just turned thirty seven. It's doing your mid thirties. 96 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: You didner. I can feel forty just like tapping on 97 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: my shoulder, node. 98 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: I love my late thirties. I think it's like mid 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: to late thirties. I think it's such a good space. 100 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I agree, the best space I think 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: I've been. 102 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: Like, I love it. So I'm not saying it negatively. 103 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, it's weird these places I'm 104 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: now discovering and going to. You should do you like 105 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: put Maui on your list, like part of Hawaii. I 106 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: love to never been, would love to surf in Maui. 107 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: Do it, my friend? 108 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: Do it? Okay? If you could have a superpower, what 109 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: would it be? 110 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm of the belief that you 111 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: should always leave people better than you found them, and 112 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: that's something that I like to do. But if it 113 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 1: was a superpower, I think that would be it, like, ah, 114 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: save the world. 115 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 2: Look at you. 116 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you have a failure that you're like, oh, 117 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: that was a bit of a failure that kind of 118 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: changed my course or had an impact on me. 119 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: You know, we look at them positively, we do. 120 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: You and I are so similar in that sense. But 121 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: I think other people would see it as a failure. 122 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I recently shut down three businesses, three bricks 123 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: and mortar businesses, Studio, PP, my Baby, and have moved 124 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: to the online space. And it was a very A 125 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: lot of people saw that as a failure, you know, like, oh, 126 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I never. 127 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: Thought that was a failure when we talked about it. 128 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: No, taking into the account there was you know, two 129 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: year pandemic ye mixed in there in Melbourne. But no, 130 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: I see it as being a real, like you said, 131 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: like a springboard to other opportunities. And I always believe 132 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: that one door closes, another one opens. But oh yeah, 133 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: and just seeing how I can use that business in 134 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: that space differently. Oh mate, I'm excited for you. Yeah, 135 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: what's the bravest thing you've ever done? I you know, 136 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: I think as friends we've touched on this. I would 137 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: never have said it's brave. But the last few years, 138 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: like probably the last five years, have been like I 139 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: obviously closed down the businesses, I went through a divorce, 140 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: I left a relationship, like people said, that was very brave, 141 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: all of these sort of things I've done now moved 142 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: back overseas to start a new chapter. I think people 143 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: see that as bravery, but I would see it more 144 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: as like non attachment. 145 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: Totally agree, yes, And. 146 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: The ability to you know, close one door and open 147 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: another and start again and never be afraid of you know, 148 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: doing that. Yeah, so some people would see that maybe 149 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: as as brave and maybe like in hindsight now I 150 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: see that back then it was brave, but I think 151 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: when you're in those moments, you just can't see the 152 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: woods through the trees. 153 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: Totally used. Keep pushing. Oh, I love that favorite meal 154 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: and you can't say corn chips? Why not. 155 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Steph Prem eats corn listener, Steph Prem eats corn chips 156 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: with no no salsa. 157 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: It is not right, my friend. It is all right. 158 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: It's a running your house before and you're like a 159 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: food group. Can I say guacamole then absolutely okay with 160 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm presuming yeah, obviously with a side of corn chips. 161 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 1: Guacan dip is like the like sorry guak and chips 162 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: is like and do you like a spicy rug to 163 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: go with it. I'm not shy to a spicy yeah. 164 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 165 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Otherwise, pancakes, Are you a panicky pancake girl? 166 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: Is something I grew up with, Like. 167 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: My dad's feel good to feel good like a Sunday morning, 168 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: like or if you're in a bad space, like I 169 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: think that generation, like of our parents too, that just 170 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: can't discuss hard topics. 171 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: My dad would just be like, how did I make 172 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: you some pancakes? 173 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Oh? I love it. I think it's like connected to 174 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: comfort for me because when I think of you, because 175 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: you and I used to go to studio pp together 176 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: and then get a say, bowls around the corner. I 177 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: think of like bowls when I think of bols. What 178 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: about advice for a younger I guess like entrepreneur in 179 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: your case, like somebody that's kind of like got a dream, 180 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: wants to go after it, a bit scared, maybe got 181 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: to be a self doubt Like what would you say 182 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: to like somebody being like, Oh, I've got this thing 183 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: I want to do Steph Sprave. 184 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 2: Again. 185 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: I mean think it's something you and I discuss as well, 186 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: And if I could speak to my younger self, it's 187 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: backing yourself in those harder moments because essentially no one 188 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: can go out and do it for you, you know, 189 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: And I think I learned that in sport. 190 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: I was in an individual sport, not a team sport. 191 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: So like at the end of the day, it got 192 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: like I had this mentor that the Olympics that was like, 193 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: when you get into that startgate, there is no one 194 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: there to help you. You can have coach, you can 195 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: have a physiotherapist, you can have people helping you, but 196 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: you're the only one going down the course and you're 197 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the only one competing. And they think, you know, naturally 198 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: very competitive in the game of life now moving away from. 199 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: Sport, but it's like you're competing in your own race. 200 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: So you have to do the work and you can't, 201 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: you know, wait for the validation and permission of others. 202 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: You just have to back yourself and jump in wholeheartedly. 203 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: I had a nutrition teacher and she said class one week, 204 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: one semester one, she said, you are the only person 205 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: who can get you to where you want to go, 206 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: and you are the only. 207 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: Person who can stop you. Wow, which is exactly what 208 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: you just said. Exactly. 209 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: I cannot have you on this pod, this hot seat 210 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: without asking what your favorite song is, because I know 211 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: you're obsessed with Britney Spears. 212 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: Is it going to be a Britney song or. 213 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: It has to be or Obviously one of the greatest 214 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: moments in my life was flying myself to New York 215 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: and sitting front row the Britney Spears concept for my 216 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday, just me and every gay man in New York. 217 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: I mean, he's the best night of our life. 218 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: People think it's so outrageous, but I used to used 219 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: to listen to Brittany. 220 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: I think it's just nostalgic for me. It reminds me 221 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: of my childhood. 222 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: And I was a dancer for fifteen years before I 223 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: went on too sports. 224 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 2: So I just love Brittany. 225 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just love She's feel good. It 226 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: makes me feel good. It takes me to a happy place. 227 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: So I used to have a lot of her on 228 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: my Like I would call it like a winning mindset 229 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: playlist before I would converse my life, so there would 230 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: be elements and I still like put remixes into classes. 231 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 2: I've been in your stuff with people and then people like, 232 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: is that is that a Britney song? 233 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: And I'm like, sure, it is, so if you had 234 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: to have one fave Brittney song, Oh. 235 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: God, the pressure you drive me crazy? Yeah, Noice. Have 236 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: you seen promising young woman Harry Mulligan. 237 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: No, they do an incredible composed instrumental version of Toxic. 238 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll play it to you at lunch. You have to. 239 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's almost haunting. Wow. Yeah, because the movie 240 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: is like super dark. I cannot wait. You have to 241 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: see the movie. 242 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: Off the back of that, I have to say though, like, 243 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: obviously I love Brittany and it just takes me to 244 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: a happy place. 245 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: But like French House is my driver. Oh, you and 246 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: Matt have bonded quite a lot over this. 247 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: Sinclaire is like, I love him so much and he 248 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: I used to snowboard a lot and compete a lot, 249 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: and I still use that kind of music to just 250 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: keep me going get in that zone. 251 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: So that's also something that really inspires me. 252 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 1: Final question, in light of your brand new podcast, what 253 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: is your favorite practice for finding mindfulness when you're feeling messy? Ooh, 254 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: great question. I mean anyone who's worked with me or 255 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: knows me knows that I believe in non negotiables, and 256 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: for me, it's always coming back to those on the 257 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: good days, the bad days, the hard days, the great days. 258 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: So like my non negotiables, movement always is like the 259 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: springboard to feeling better physically, mentally, emotionally, psychologically, everything. So 260 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: always movement doesn't have to be hard movement, just just 261 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: smooth your body. It's also you know, nutrition, which I 262 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: know is your space, but it's more so just seeing 263 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: it as like fuel and like eating what makes you 264 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: feel like your best self as well, and some form 265 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,239 Speaker 1: of meditative practice and I struggle with that like anyone else. 266 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: Totally, totally. 267 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: I've been on a panel on a health panel beforence 268 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: One's like I meditate twenty minutes morning, twenty minutes night 269 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: transcendent and I was like, I've done that course, I'm 270 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: trained in that. I absolutely don't do that, but I'm 271 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: also not going to be as the audience either. You 272 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: have just shared a hack with me before we hit 273 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: record on this pod. And when you fly a long 274 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: distance flight, what's the first thing you do? 275 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 2: Always have a massage book at the other end, Can 276 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 2: you explain what they taught you? 277 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: Because it's related to the physical movement, same thing competing, Yeah, 278 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: and I used to do it as an athlete was 279 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: because obviously when nothing good comes from stagnation and keeping 280 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: your body still. So if you've been on a long 281 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: haul flight, it's really great to move your body straight 282 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: away when you get off the flight. That's often the 283 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: last thing you feel like doing, or you're not on 284 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: the right time zone, and sometimes like over stimulating your 285 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: body or vigorous exercise at the wrong time of day 286 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: is not going to be good for you either when 287 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: you're trying to reset or get the jet lab So 288 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: massage is a great way to stimulate like your cellular 289 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: system and your lymphatic system body and move your body 290 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: without moving your body, if that makes sense, getting someone 291 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: else to kind of almost do the work, and that 292 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: lymphatic as well, which would you would have held fluid 293 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: from a long flight, so indorrect flush the body and 294 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: then that will It just helps with jet lag so much. 295 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: It's just such a good ha. 296 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 2: I had no idea. You've changed my world. 297 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: Oh try it, you know, it's life changing, Like lots 298 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 1: of water massage straight off the plane, and which is 299 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: obviously easier when you fly into big cities and depending 300 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: on the time zone, but it makes a massive difference. 301 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: And then try to eat and sleep on that time 302 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: zone that you land in straight away, whether you feel 303 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: like it or don't, and you should be done ready to. 304 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: Go the next day. Oh. 305 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: I love it, because we'd have to jump off off 306 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 1: a flight and compete sometimes yeah the next day or 307 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: do whatever, So you really have to find these little 308 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: hat to make sure you're in the right space. 309 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. I love it. 310 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: Steph Pram, congrats on your pod. It's all out and 311 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: available now. And also can not wait for people to 312 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: hear your episode and you're going to like, Oh, you 313 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: are the best. And also if you want to listen 314 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: back to Steph's first EP on Feels Failing, it's episode 315 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: number two, so you can find her there. It's one 316 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: of my favorite interviews of really time. It's my favorite 317 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: pod interview. 318 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: That makes me very happy. I love it. I'm obsessed 319 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: with potting and I know you're going to be the 320 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: exact same. Thank you, big love.