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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mini.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what some pretty repulsive stuff is coming

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Speaker 3: out about Facebook. That's your Instagram, that's your What's App,

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Speaker 3: and that's your Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Francis Horgan. I hope I've pronounced that correctly.

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Speaker 2: Horgan.

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Speaker 1: Horgan.

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Speaker 3: She's a former Facebook data scientist, so she was punching

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Speaker 3: the numbers.

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Speaker 1: She was crunching the numbers.

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Speaker 2: Big fan of ones and zeros, big fan.

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Speaker 3: And she's spoken into Congress hearing where she's effectively said

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Speaker 3: that Facebook target people with health disorders and anorexia, amongst

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Speaker 3: other things. Sure, so they will actually set up algorithms

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Speaker 3: where they are deliberately going are perfect people with mental

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Speaker 3: health disorders.

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Speaker 1: And anerexia will really get around this and make them.

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Speaker 3: Like Facebook more terrifying, terrifying and repulsive if true.

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Speaker 1: So that's one part of this.

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Speaker 2: And they knew about it.

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Speaker 1: They were deliberately doing it because they knew would make

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Speaker 1: Facebook more popular if they did.

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Speaker 3: Truly disgusting stuff. And you can look into it more.

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Speaker 3: To look up Francis Horgan. You can get a full

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Speaker 3: speech at Congress online if you want to. But I

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Speaker 3: want to focus on another part of this and that

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Speaker 3: is that during the hearing, people are very angry because Mark.

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Speaker 1: Zuckerberg, who is the head of Facebook.

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Speaker 3: You know, there are these very serious allegations coming out

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Speaker 3: about him, and he's decided during the hearing not to

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Speaker 3: be there and not to be apologizing.

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Speaker 1: He chose to go for a sale churn pretty bad,

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Speaker 1: pretty bad, pretty bad, awful. Yeah, do you do the

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Speaker 1: wrong thing? He's unaccountable for it. Absolutely, that's what people want. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: So he's out there saying but that just got me thinking, well,

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Speaker 3: and I'm definitely not saying I'm as bad as Zuckerberg.

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Speaker 1: I just want to put that on record right now.

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Speaker 1: But I've got a question for you.

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Speaker 3: Sure, when someone is getting angry at you, Yes, so

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Speaker 3: you're in a fight, Yes, can you do something well,

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Speaker 3: well maybe sailing is the extreme, but can you do

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Speaker 3: something else while someone is getting angry at you?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean do something else?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so this is a former girlfriend, long long time ago.

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Speaker 2: How angry are we talking? I don't know how angry

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Speaker 2: was she? Former girlfriend?

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Speaker 1: We're having a pretty serious argument. Okay, so she's having

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Speaker 1: a real crack. We did you do? I can't remember?

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Speaker 2: No, you can remember, I don't even try me.

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Speaker 3: I think I potentially didn't come home because I said

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Speaker 3: I was going to be home.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about what the argument was about.

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Speaker 1: What are you asking? Are you asking? I didn't come

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Speaker 1: home for a week. No, I woke up in BALI.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: What we What were you doing when she was getting

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Speaker 2: angry at you?

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Speaker 1: No, I was making sious.

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Speaker 3: So while she was getting angry at me, Yes, I

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Speaker 3: decided I was quite hungry, and I was like, yep, yep, yep,

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Speaker 3: I'm hearing. And I started pouring myself a bowl of

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Speaker 3: cereal God, and then I ate this SEP. Now I

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Speaker 3: was taking the argument. I was still talking.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look like you're taking So she she got

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Speaker 2: elevated furious because she was like, how can you're not

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Speaker 2: listening to me?

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Speaker 1: How can you be hungry right now? I don't think

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Speaker 1: I was listening. I think I was listening.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but you're not. You're not listening one hundred percent.

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Speaker 2: You're not You're you're dismissing what they're saying. You're not

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Speaker 2: accountable what you want. Someone once said to me, in

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Speaker 2: an argument in a relationship, the other person and I'm

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Speaker 2: the This is a stereotype they used. They said in

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Speaker 2: an argument, a woman doesn't necessarily want to be right.

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Speaker 1: She just wants to know that she's been hurt. Yes, yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And the question is, and I.

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Speaker 2: Think that when you're pouring yourself a bowl of serial

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was fully listening. No, that's not how it works.

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Speaker 2: Being heard isn't the fact that you're actually physically you're

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Speaker 2: receiving the sound waves. Being heard means that you're acknowledging

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Speaker 2: their emotions, and you're not acknowledging their emotions when you're

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Speaker 2: pouring a polars.

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Speaker 3: On six five is our number. You may have just

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Speaker 3: answered the question very very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Do something when someone's having a crag at you?

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Speaker 3: Can you do something when you are having an argument

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Speaker 3: with someone?

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Speaker 4: And have you.

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Speaker 2: Experienced the most annoying thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a line though.

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Speaker 3: I think if you look at if you turn on

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Speaker 3: a TV instead of watching a movie, no way, listen

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Speaker 3: to the person.

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Speaker 1: I think you can have a snack. Yeah, if there's

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Speaker 1: a little little.

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Speaker 3: Snack, I can listen and have a little I can

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Speaker 3: I can eat popcorn and watch a movie. Will Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm still listen if I turned around and started knocking

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Speaker 3: down a wall as an example pulling behavior I do.

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Speaker 2: There's a difference between the snack being on the bench

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Speaker 2: and just nibbling on the snack versus excuse me while

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Speaker 2: I go and pull a box of cereal down from

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Speaker 2: the cupboard.

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Speaker 3: It was right in front of me. To be fair,

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Speaker 3: she started getting angry at me while I was making

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Speaker 3: my cereal.

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Speaker 1: Thirty one O six y five is our number? Where's

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Speaker 1: the line? Mark Zuckerberg? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: He's facing some shocking allegations in Congress right now. Former

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Speaker 3: employee Facebook Francis Horgangan is saying that they Facebook sets

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Speaker 3: up algorithms to target people with mental health disorders anorexia,

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Speaker 3: to effectively get more popular palling stuff. And he chose

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Speaker 3: that during the Congress hearing while he's copying this criticism,

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Speaker 3: he thought it was a good idea to go sailing still.

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Speaker 1: People are angry rather.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely extraordinary that he did that.

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Speaker 1: On a much smaller level.

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Speaker 2: He's pretty small.

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Speaker 1: What's that, Zuckerberg? No, but he's big. This is a

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Speaker 1: big deal. That's a big deal, big deal. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about his stature of physical size.

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Speaker 3: On a much smaller scale, if someone's getting angry at you,

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Speaker 3: but your boss, your parents, your partner, Yeah, yeah, can

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Speaker 3: you do something while they are getting angry at.

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you and I probably need to

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Speaker 1: I don't think we do.

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Speaker 3: I actually here on thirty one sixty five, Ashley, what

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: No, you can so. Ex partner getting angry at me

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Speaker 5: over something I did.

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Speaker 4: He was a bit of a sook.

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Speaker 5: So I just started cleaning.

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Speaker 1: The kitchen, right, And how did he respond?

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Speaker 5: He just kept talking and getting angrier, and I was like,

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Speaker 5: I was kind of listening to what he was saying.

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Speaker 5: He was on a bit of a rant, but I

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Speaker 5: just continued to clean the kitchen and stack the dishwater.

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Speaker 1: That's rude, Ashley.

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Speaker 5: No, because that's how I think, and that's you know if.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's actually funnily enough, Wood, you and I.

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Speaker 2: This is the bit that I wanted to clarify with

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Speaker 2: Woods is I think there's a big difference between if

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Speaker 2: you're the kind of person that hates conflict.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I hate conflict, avoiding.

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Speaker 2: The conflict by it's almost like you're subconsciously taking yourself

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Speaker 2: away from the from the conflict by just busying your

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Speaker 2: hands with something because it's too intense for you to

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Speaker 2: eyeball them and absorb it. But I think there's a

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Speaker 2: different stream now it.

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Speaker 5: But I was just you know, doing other stuff at

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Speaker 2: Yes, but that's your way, that's your way of dealing

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Speaker 2: with it, is what I'm trying to say, as opposed

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Speaker 2: to consciously doing something else in order to piss them off,

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Speaker 2: to make them feel like you're.

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Speaker 5: Not listening to them, Like I was trying to piss

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Speaker 5: him off, because like if I actually, like you know,

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Speaker 5: turned around and focused on him, I would have started

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Speaker 5: yelling back and started throwing things.

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Speaker 1: Your way to avoid it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so you're just protecting yourself, all right, that's

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Speaker 2: that's that's a good call. And I think that's that's

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Speaker 2: an important part of this argument. I don't think you

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Speaker 2: know that as well. When you're angry at someone and

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Speaker 2: they start doing something else.

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Speaker 1: You can trying to avoid.

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Speaker 2: My partner does that. My partner goes and does things

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, and I have to say to her, hey,

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Speaker 2: can you look at me please, right, And you know

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Speaker 2: you'll say no, I can't. Actually I actually can't look

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Speaker 2: at you at the moment.

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Speaker 1: We've got many here. Now, Manny, you're in year twelve,

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Speaker 1: you're an eighteen year old. Yeah, gee, bloody hell many.

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Speaker 3: You've got a deep voice for an eighteen year old,

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Speaker 3: eighteen going on forty.

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Speaker 4: Sitting at work you to talk to you boys.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, you're.

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Speaker 1: Actually eighteen extrawdinary voice. It's very sexy. It's very sexy.

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Speaker 4: Is that is that deep on you? What?

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Speaker 1: I don't know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just sound like a full man anyway, Manny

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Speaker 3: is a man. You do what I do? Mate, So

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Speaker 3: you if your mum's getting angry at chaw, you do something.

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Speaker 4: Oh like I saw in it today, Like you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm on my phone like listening talking to her like

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Speaker 4: you know, like the usual, you know, yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 4: I still look at her up and down, but like

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Speaker 4: cracked at me, you know, start yelling. I try to

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Speaker 4: turn I try to turn it down as well, like

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Speaker 4: you know, stop yelling. Probably telling it or relaxed is

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Speaker 4: not the best thing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's never good. That's never good.

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Speaker 4: It never works. But you know, I agree with what's

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Speaker 4: his name?

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Speaker 2: Will you know? I reckon?

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Speaker 1: He goes he's yeah, he's right here. Yeah, he's still here.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 1: I agree with what's his name?

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Speaker 2: That guy that was talking too much before let's go

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Speaker 2: to let's go to Phoebe. Maybe we're talking about that's

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Speaker 2: never happened to me, private conversation with you, that God.

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Speaker 5: Still in the room.

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Speaker 2: To you.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I've got a bit of a similar perspective to Maddie.

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Speaker 6: When my mom's angry, my dad tends to do the

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Speaker 6: dishes while she's angry. But I'm kind of thinking that

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Speaker 6: I should definitely take that on because it kind of

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Speaker 6: makes her think, oh, why is she doing the dishes

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Speaker 6: like she's doing something nice. Therefore she gets calmer and

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Speaker 6: the situation calms down and you know, crashes a beded

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Speaker 6: in some way.

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Speaker 1: So do something for them. So if you do something

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Speaker 1: that cool.

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Speaker 3: So if you do like a household, sure, all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, how can I be angry at someone?

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's.

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Speaker 2: It works.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a pretty good guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, you can't use that in the argument either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, potatoes, potatos, that's.

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Speaker 1: But as what his dad would say, potatoes. More of

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