1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: We have the chance to see an amazing show this month, 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: July twenty eight. It's a Monday at the Asta Theater. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: You can see Bear McCreary on his Themes and Variations. 4 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Tour tickets are available through ticketek. Bear is the composer 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: behind scores for shows like Battlestar Galactica, Outlander, The Walking Dead, 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings, and he's with us Hello. 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Today, Bear, thanks for time. 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: How are you hello? 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 4: How's it going good? 10 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: So the show on July twenty eight is I believe 11 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be a mix of some of those 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: amazing scores and music from your rock concept album, which 13 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: is called The Singularity. 14 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 4: Yes, it's going to be quite an eclectic evening. 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely well, it's quite an eclectic lineup on that album, 16 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 1: from Rufus Wainwright to Joe Satriani and Slash. Bet you 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: didn't have to ask him twice. 18 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: That was a pretty surreal experience, especially because one of 19 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 3: those songs called Escape from the Machines I wrote when 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: I was sixteen years old? 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: Are you kidding? 22 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 4: And I was imagining I was imagining Slash wang It. 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: I grew up listening to Slash, I was listening to 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: November Rain and I thought, oh, I want to capture 25 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 3: some of that epic orchestral rock majesty. And yet thirty 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: years later I asked Slash to play that exact same 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 3: part on that exact same song and he did it. 28 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 3: So it really was sort of like, uh, my whole 29 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: career coming full circle on that record. 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: There's not enough pinching yourself in the world that Welcome 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: to the Jungle. 32 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 4: Exactly. It was a it was a dream, you know. 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: And then to be able to take songs like that 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,919 Speaker 3: yeah from my rock record and combine them with music 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 3: that I've done over the last two decades scoring film, 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 3: television and video games. Yeah, it's been it's been a 37 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: blast taking all this stuff to audiences around the world. 38 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: Has this stopped by? How do you stop on getting 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: a foot in the door in Hollywood as a composer? 40 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: Is it? 41 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Is it just like baby steps to start with? 42 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: You know? 43 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: How do you start? 44 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: I think the best advice I can give to anybody 45 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: getting started is just love what you do so much that. 46 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 4: People love doing it with you. 47 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: I really don't have any tangible advice other than that, 48 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: because I think if you're the kind of person that 49 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 3: people like being around, like making art with You're probably 50 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: gonna make it if you just hang in there long 51 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: enough and stay positive and stay creative. 52 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, but how does it work in terms of scoring 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: music for a show? Do you get a completed episode 54 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: or do you get a script? Or how does it work? 55 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 5: Well? 56 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: I always like to say that I'll take whatever you 57 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 4: got right. 58 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: Sometimes, if I'm hired early enough, I'll read scripts far 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: in advance. I think I was brought on board a 60 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: show like Outlander, I think a year early. But other times, 61 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: when I did Lord of the Rings The Rings of Power, 62 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: I started right away. There were episodes to look at 63 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 3: right when I got started. But either way it really 64 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: doesn't matter right because what matters to me is what. 65 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: Is the story? Who are the characters. 66 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: My mentor Elmer Bernstein, who was one of the greatest 67 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: film composers of the twentieth century, he taught me to 68 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: ask one question, you guys, one question, what do you 69 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: want the audience to feel? 70 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: If you can answer that question, you can do the job. Yeah. 71 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, you want him to get passionate, you want him 72 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: to start crying, whatever it might be. In some way 73 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm moving them. 74 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's impossible. To imagine all movies without the music. 75 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you watch something without the music, it 76 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: would lose the effect of So imagine watching Jaws without 77 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: it would just be ridiculous. Music has the scoring of 78 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, things has become just as big in video games, 79 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: true as in TV and movies. I believe your top 80 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: song on Apple is in fact from a video game. 81 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: We Yeah, I did a track with with Hosier. Yes, 82 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,279 Speaker 3: I did a track with Hosier for God of War Ragnarok, 83 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: the God of War. Games I've done God of War 84 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: and God of War Ragnarok are are are pretty big. 85 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: They have a pretty big audience. And I was just 86 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: so incredibly fortunate to get to write a song with 87 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: one of my favorite artists. Yeah, I mean, Hosier is 88 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 3: such an amazing lyricist and singer, and he had this 89 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: beautiful perspective on this very emotional story. 90 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 4: So that was really exciting, and. 91 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: You know, I got to play it live with him 92 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: once and it was incredible at the Game Awards and 93 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: we're replicating that experience to a degree. We're performing Blood 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: upon the Snow in my set, and I got to say, 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 3: like being able to play I play the hurdy gurdy, 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: this really weird instrument on that song. 97 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 4: To being able to play the hurdy gurdy doing God 98 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: of War music exactly, it's like a dream come through 99 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: you guys. It's so fun. 100 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 3: It's good. 101 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: Actually, you mentioned Hosey. I mean Hosey, there's a soft 102 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: spot for that man here at our city of Perth 103 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: and Western Astralia. Put it Heusier gig on and he 104 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: sells two or three gigs. He's quite a telling amazing yeah. 105 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's just the sweetest guy. 106 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: Yeah apparently. Yeah, you mentioned Elma Bernstein is being an 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: inspiration and a friend other composers around or is Elma 108 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: the one that's you know, been somebody really looked up 109 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: to and got great advice from. 110 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Elmer was one of my heroes growing up, 111 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: and he took me under his wing. I worked with 112 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: him for nearly a decade. I met him when I 113 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: was in high school, when I was sixteen years old, 114 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: and he was my first job in the business. 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 4: You know. He let me orchestrate a. 116 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 3: Film, although really he needed someone to house sit his 117 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: dogs when he was gone all summer, and he was like, look, 118 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: if you give the dogs their medicine, you can orchestrate 119 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 3: this film, right. And the funny thing is I was, 120 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: I think I was nineteen at the time. 121 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: I had a. 122 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: Deathly phobia of dogs from when I was a kid. 123 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: And I go, sure, I mean, he'll be fine, it'll 124 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: be fine. What kind of dogs do you have? And 125 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 3: he goes, I have two German shepherd and I was like, 126 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: oh god, those are like sixty pounds. And then he 127 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: goes and I have an Irish woolffound. 128 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 5: Oh okay, I twenty pound dog. And he said, look, 129 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 5: it's really easy. You just open up its mouth and 130 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 5: damn the medicine in there. And he goes, if you 131 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 5: come house, sit my dogs, I'll let you orchestrate a movie. 132 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 5: And I've I'm and I and he said, you know, 133 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 5: can you do it? And I thought, sure, no problem. 134 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 5: And of course the dogs were the sweetest animals ever, 135 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 5: and I got over my phobia pretty fast. 136 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: Well, music sues the Savage based is nice. 137 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: You should have played them somewhat. That's something that you'd 138 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: written Wallne. 139 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: Indeed, we look forward to having you in town July 140 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: twenty eighth at the ASTA. Tickets are available through TEK. 141 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us this morning. 142 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: Ben, great to Benjamin, thanks so much. 143 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: Cheers, see you guys soon.