1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Ends the Trend. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: A suntan is your skin's damage response, but protecting yourself 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: is simple skin cancer. Let's end the trend already and. 4 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: This is the Daily This is the Daily OS. 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 3: Oh, now it makes sense. Good morning and welcome to 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: the Daily OS. It's Sunday, the thirtieth of November. I'm 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: Billy fitz Simon's. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm Sam Kazlowski. 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: We are on the brink of summer quite literally, it 10 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 3: starts tomorrow go and so we are here to discuss 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 3: all things sun safety. A couple of weeks ago, we 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: asked the audience over on our Instagram, what do you 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: want to know about the effect of the sun on 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 3: your skin? We were inundated with questions and I spoke 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: to dermatologist doctor Rita Gupta to answer all of those questions, 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: and today we are here to help share all of 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: her wisdom. Just a quick note before we get get started. 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: This podcast is sponsored by Cancer Council and Australian Governments 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: End the Trend, but they've not provided any input on 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: the content here. 21 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: So Billy, how I thought we would do this is 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to read out the questions that I thought 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: were really interesting from the audience, and then you can 24 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: let us know the answer based on your chat with 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: the expert, doctor Reto Gupta. 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: Perfect. 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: So the first question, let's start right at kind of 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: the big picture. Can you get skin damage without sunburn? Yeah? 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 3: I actually think this is probably the biggest thing that 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: I learned in my chat with doctor Retoo. So it's 31 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 3: great to start with this because I think it really 32 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 3: sets up the entire episode. The answer is that literally, 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: any sun tan is harmful, and so you don't need 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: to get to the point of a burn for there 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: to be skin damage. I don't know if you've ever 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: been around someone who said I don't burn, I just can. 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: I always hear that kind of as a justification for 38 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 3: you know, being out in the sun. But what doctor 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: Riedo really emphasized to me is that any tan is 40 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 3: your skin in trauma basically, and once it gets to 41 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: the sunburned stage, there's obviously just a lot more damage, 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: but that shouldn't be misunderstood as that being the only 43 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: stage where there is damage, right, Okay. 44 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: So it's kind of almost a couple of steps where 45 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: the severity you can increase, but it can start pretty 46 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: early in that sun exposure exactly. One theme that came 47 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: through quite strongly in the questions were about freckles, and 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: the questions were kind of are freckles harmful? But also 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: are they avoidable? 50 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: So what I learned from speaking to doctor Riedo is 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: that freckles are a sign of sun exposure, but they 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 3: themselves are not harmful. Right, So, although they do tell 53 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 3: a story of too much sun. But it's also worth 54 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: noting that some people are predisposed to getting more freckles 55 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 3: than others. Are you someone whore, Sam, I'm not really 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 3: a fra I'm not either, but I know a lot 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: of people are. Like I said, some people are predisposed 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: to it more than others. And what's important to know 59 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: is that freckles themselves don't turn into skin cancer. However, 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: doctor Rido explained that brown splodges can turn into skin 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 3: cancer and for someone with an untrained eye like you 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: or me, no offense to either of us, it can 63 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: be hard to tell the difference between the two. Here's 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 3: a little bit of my chat with doctor Riedo about this. 65 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 4: So basically, what you're looking for really is change, you know, 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: something new. I always said to persions, something new, something changing, 67 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: something not healing. Something that catches your eye or your 68 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: partner's eye or your friend's eye should be looked at. 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 4: It also depends what age you are, because at certain 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 4: ages you're still developing things like new moles and things. 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: So that's a pretty clear justification of you know, if 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: you notice brown spots to go and get a check 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: pretty quickly. There were a lot of questions about suntanning 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: and whether there was a healthy limit to suntanning, which 75 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: I thought was really interesting. Did you kind of press 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: for an answer on that one. 77 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: Yes, And this is a pretty easy answer, Sam. Do 78 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: you remember the ad from Cancer Council back in twenty 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: ten there's nothing healthy about a tan. 80 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: It was kind of the Australian Advertising Hall of Fame. 81 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's literally burned in my brain. 82 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: That's saying they're. 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: Interesting use of the word band. 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm glad you picked off on that. And 85 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 3: so the answer to this question is pretty simple. No, 86 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: suntan is healthy, just like that ad told us all 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: those years ago. Here is a bit more of what 88 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 3: doctor Riedo said on. 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 4: That suntan is always bad. We need to let go 90 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 4: of this whole desire to be the bronzed Aussie because 91 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 4: all suntan is a sign of skin damage from the sun. 92 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: So let's turn now to prevention and the ways that 93 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: people can protect themselves from the risks that we've spoken about, 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: And I want to talk about sunscreen. A lot of 95 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: questions about sunscreen. It's been i would say, objectively, a 96 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: bad year for sunscreen in the media. Yes, there's been, 97 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, these independent investigations into some sunscreens not delivering 98 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: the protections they claim. 99 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 3: To offer, and those ones have been taken off the shelves. 100 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've done a lot of reporting on that. 101 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: How effective is sunscreen good sunscreen in actually preventing cancer. 102 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: I feel like I should preface this by saying, not 103 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: all sunscreen, it's not. What has happened this year is 104 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: not indicative of the entire sunscreen industry. Absolutely, there has 105 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 3: just been a portion of sunscreens with a specific formula 106 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 3: that it has turned out isn't as effective. But the 107 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: large majority of sunscreen is very effective. 108 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a really important point to emphasize. 109 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: Yes, and as we I'm sure and mostly across we've 110 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: grown up with the importance of sunscreen all of our lives. 111 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: It is very effective, but what doctor Rido really emphasized 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 3: in my chat with her is that it's only part 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: of the prevention story and what you should be doing 114 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: to prevent skin cancer, premature aging, all of that, and 115 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 3: so it needs to be complimented by other sun safe 116 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: measures in order to be the most effective. One way 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: to look at it is that sunscreen is our last 118 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 3: line of defense when you can't cover up with clothes 119 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 3: when we are in the sun. Now, this is where 120 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: the five s's come into play. I'm sure most of 121 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: us are familiar with slip slop slap. 122 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:28,559 Speaker 1: Yep. 123 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 3: Can you sing the song no slip slop slap. I 124 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: don't think that's quite let's play it Lola now, quick question, Sam, 125 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 3: do you know what the slap is in reference. 126 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: To gosh like slapping it on your body? 127 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 3: Slapping what on your body? 128 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: Sunscreen? No slap? 129 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 3: What slip? 130 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: Slip? Getting slippery? I assumed it was all suns related. 131 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: No, it's very specific. So slip is slipping on a 132 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 3: T shirt or something that's going to cover your Did 133 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: you not know this? 134 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: This is mind blowing? What do you mean? I thought 135 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: there was just different ways of applying sunscreen. No, you 136 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: slap some, you slap some. 137 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: No, okay, So slip is putting on protective clothing, slop 138 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: is slopping on some sunscreen, and slap is putting on 139 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: a broad brimmed hat. 140 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Can you explain that connection? That makes no sense to me? 141 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 3: That bit, How does that make no sense to you? 142 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: You slap on a hat, slap. 143 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: On a hat, and that's what we are about to 144 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: do right now for the rest of this podcast. 145 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: I would dare I would go as far as saying 146 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: that there's one of the most little known, well known 147 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: parts of being an Australian, this slip, slop, slap and 148 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: not knowing that slap meant putting on the hat. 149 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: I know that this is an audio form, although we 150 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 3: do also do video. But I've just brought in some 151 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: hats for Sam and nice of the I know that 152 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: you love our bucket hat, so I thought. 153 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: Do they make this for people with slightly larger heads? 154 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 3: Okay, we look absolutely ridiculous, but I will be insisting 155 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: that we be wearing this for the rest of the podcast. 156 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, so you didn't know that, No, Well, you 157 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: learn something new every day. I hope that this is. 158 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: You slap on other hats or is it just. 159 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: Broad brimmed, because that is going to be what is 160 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: going to protect your face the most from the sun. 161 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: Okay, understood? 162 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: Okay? And then in two thousand and seven, did you 163 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: know that seek and slide were. 164 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Added, right, so sek would be shade. 165 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 3: Yes and slide. 166 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: That's a no brainer. 167 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: That's a no brainer. 168 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: Slide, no slide, slide into the shade in the hoddest 169 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: time of the slide on, slide on into a skin 170 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: check clinic. 171 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 172 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 3: Great, guess maybe they should add that one. No slide 173 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 3: is sliding on sunglasses are nice? Nice, And so you 174 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 3: need all five of those slip, slop, slap, seek, slide 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: to effectively prevent skin cancer. Can you say them with me? Ready? Slip, slop, slap, seek, 176 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 3: slide perfect, We'll never forget it. Now. Here is a 177 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: little bit more from doctor Redo on. 178 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: That if you're doing all of those things, is very 179 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 4: effective in preventing skin cancer. Sunscreen by itself, as I said, 180 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: if if you're using an SPF fifty, it blocks out 181 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: ninety eight percent of the UV race. If you're using 182 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: a SPF thirty, it's still about I think it's ninety 183 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: five point seven percent, so it's only a few percent less, 184 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 4: even though the number is much less. But you need 185 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: to reapply. And the thing about sunscreen is all the sunscreens, 186 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 4: even the ones that say their last four hours, most 187 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: of the protection is gone after two hours. 188 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Now that my mind is, you know, blown with these 189 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: new words, these new English words, which I've been saying 190 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: for decades. 191 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 3: Say they're not new. 192 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: No, well, they're very new in the way that I'm 193 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: understanding them. 194 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: The meaning is new for Sam's brain. 195 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: Let's keep going. Another common question was about botox and 196 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: whether botox can fix sun damage, and I think that 197 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: relates a lot to kind of the aging discussions. 198 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: Right, this is interesting, So essentially botox isn't helping sun 199 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: damage at all in terms of the damage the sun 200 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 3: has caused your cells, any spots it has caused, and 201 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 3: it does nothing in preventing skin cancer, although I'm sure 202 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 3: that we all pretty much presumed that obviously. One thing 203 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 3: the sun does do, though, is it causes wrinkles, and 204 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 3: botox does deal with that, but it doesn't do anything else, 205 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 3: and it doesn't help wrinkles one hundred percent either. 206 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: Right, So it's purely cosmetic Another way that people kind 207 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,079 Speaker 1: of mitigate, you know, cosmetically in this area. 208 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: Is I'm still just laughing at the fact that we're 209 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 3: still wearing the hats during this pond. 210 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: Recus, I'm a big I'm a big slapper. I'm a 211 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: big hat slapper. Let's talk about fake tan. I've actually 212 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: noticed there's less people wearing fake tan that perhaps I 213 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: thought I kind of remember there would have been five 214 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: years ago. I feel like it's gotten slightly less common. 215 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: One question we had was can fake tan protect your 216 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: skin from sun damage? 217 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: It can't. It does absolutely nothing in terms of protecting 218 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: your skin from the sun or preventing skin cancer or 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: anything like that. I'll let doctor Rido explain more of this. 220 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: It doesn't have any blocking effect on UV, and in fact, 221 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: it could cause the opposite effect because you might think, oh, 222 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: I've got a tan and therefore I'm not going to 223 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 4: burn as easily. But it's a fake tan, so it 224 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 4: doesn't protect. 225 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: Well, those are all the questions. Billy and I think 226 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: that's a really nice way to start summer officially tomorrow. 227 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the most special things and 228 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 1: the biggest risks to living in Australia. And this discussion 229 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: comes around kind of each year, but each year I 230 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: feel like our understanding of how we talk about it 231 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: and normalizing these conversations increases. And that's only a good thing. 232 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And now this year, you know, slip 233 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: slot slat seek slide. Incredibly, you're going to be more 234 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: unsafe than. 235 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: Ever before and I actually understand what those words. Thank 236 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, Billy, and thank you 237 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: to doctor Rito as well for offering her expertise in 238 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: guiding us through this discussion. Absolutely, and that's all we've 239 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: got time for on this special edition of The Daily 240 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: Odds this Sunday. We're going to be back in your 241 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: is tomorrow morning with the regular news. Enjoy the first 242 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: day of summer coming up, Protect yourself and we will 243 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: chat to you later. 244 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 245 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: bunjelung Caalcultin woman from Gadigal country. The Daily acknowledges that 246 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 2: this podcast is recorded on the lands of the Gadigal 247 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strate 248 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: island and nations. We pay our respects to the first 249 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: peoples of these countries both past and present. 250 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: Summer's heating up, so here is your reminder. Slip on 251 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: something that covers your skin. Slop on SPF fifty, slap 252 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: on a white brained hat, seek some shade, and slide 253 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: on your sunnies. Whenever the UV hits three or above. 254 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: These more habits make a real difference, and it's never 255 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: too late to start. Oh and remind your mates as well. 256 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: We are all in this together, skin cancer. Let's end 257 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: the trend.