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Speaker 1: Jum mission with Jonesy and Amanda. Here's something you are

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Speaker 1: growing trend in parents who don't use nappies.

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Speaker 2: Not for themselves, we're talking about for all the children.

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Speaker 3: It's called Elimination Communication method or EC and a number

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Speaker 3: of Australian parents fair enough to want to have less

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Speaker 3: impact on the environment. You don't want disposable nappies and

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Speaker 3: maybe wash nappies less. But I don't know if this

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Speaker 3: is a solution. The woman who runs EC workshop says

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Speaker 3: the method relies on parents looking for subtle cues that

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Speaker 3: the baby gives indicating they need to go to the toilet.

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Speaker 3: So when you respond to the cues, you hold them

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Speaker 3: over a toilet or a potty. She said, there's are

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Speaker 3: a bunch of signs of baby gives when they need

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Speaker 3: to go.

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Speaker 1: What are they doing it poop?

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Speaker 3: They might go still or quiet, and she said her

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Speaker 3: son shakes his fist.

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Speaker 2: That if you start.

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Speaker 3: Responding to the cues, the cues get more obvious and

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Speaker 3: the children know that. She said, babies have a natural

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Speaker 3: instinct not to want to soil themselves, so the system

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Speaker 3: does work. Previous research has said that there's a little

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Speaker 3: benefit in toilet training kids before eighteen months of age.

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Speaker 3: If you want them to you do independent toileting. But

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're This isn't to train babies. It's

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Speaker 3: to have less reliance on nappies.

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Speaker 1: So you say, the kid walking off to the toilet

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Speaker 1: with the form guide under his arm, yeah, I'll be

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Speaker 1: back at a.

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Speaker 3: Minute, that's a sign. And the fact that he's seventeen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's hard this this, and there's been

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Speaker 3: a rise in this because people have been working much

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Speaker 3: more from home, so you can be more diligent with

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Speaker 3: this kind of thing. But for most of us it's convenience.

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Speaker 3: I remember when toilet training Jack and you aren't you

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Speaker 3: a big boy?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: And then you want to go to the movies with

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Speaker 3: them or something, and you say, how about you put

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Speaker 3: a nappy on just for today?

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Speaker 2: Can we just revert it just for today?

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Speaker 1: Liam, speaking out of school, he used to use his

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Speaker 1: little potty.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is a thief.

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Speaker 1: For some reason, he decided to put the potty on

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Speaker 1: top of the bean bag.

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Speaker 3: Which is and then put a cushion on top of that,

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Speaker 3: and this gargled in top from his throne.

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Speaker 2: He was toilet trained.

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Speaker 3: He did a number two in the toilet when there

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Speaker 3: was about two, and I said, how easy is this?

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Speaker 2: He didn't do it again till he was five.

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Speaker 1: He's loving this. I was nineteen year old. Well, what

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Speaker 1: do you think nappy free babies do? They pass the pup?

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Speaker 1: Would do it? Would you do it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know who's a big advocate of this,

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Speaker 3: Alicia Silverstone. She feeds her kid out of her mouth?

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Speaker 2: Remember that?

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Speaker 1: Is she still breastfreading, isn't she?

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Speaker 2: No, she choose them foods and does it out of

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Speaker 2: her mouth.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just thinking as a parent, who I remember

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Speaker 1: changing a nappy on one of my kids? Won't say

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Speaker 1: which one. I think was at the daughter. And it

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Speaker 1: just goes everywhere, and then you change it again two

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Speaker 1: seconds later and goes everywhere again.

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Speaker 2: Are you saying it'd be better without a nappy?

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Speaker 1: No? I actually I don't know. She was like a machine.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. How can you get a couch?

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Speaker 1: Ever?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't put them in the car ever.

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Speaker 3: Even looking for the cues that they're sleepy and want

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Speaker 3: to have it go to sleep is tricky enough to

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Speaker 3: figure out when they're little babies, let alone. I wonder

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Speaker 3: if dealing with the accidents, but they don't get it right.

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Speaker 1: Adult were nappy all the time, you might just feel

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Speaker 1: more inclined to just do it. We've got any astronauts

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Speaker 1: listening to the show, they wear nappy?

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Speaker 2: No, I see.

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Speaker 3: Well, she says that babies have an actual instinct not

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Speaker 3: to soil themselves.

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Speaker 1: So do we now, But that's what I mean. But

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Speaker 1: when we've got the protection, as it were, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Think we revert back to you know, even doing a

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Speaker 2: wei in the.

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Speaker 3: Ocean, it's you have to really allow yourself to do it.

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Speaker 1: When you do it in the ocean, you as as

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Speaker 1: I get in the ocean, it's on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd still feel oh that's right, I'm allowed to Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But you're the same every time you o the beach.

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Speaker 1: Just wade out to.

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Speaker 3: Your waist to say to the kids, I'm just going

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Speaker 3: to go and cool off, and I to stand up

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Speaker 3: to my waist and then come back in again.

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Speaker 1: You have to do it between the flags, mum. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the shallow Nappy free babies do they pass

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Speaker 1: the pub test?

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Speaker 2: It totally passes the pub test. We're learning new things

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Speaker 2: all the time. Life is changing. This is great for

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Speaker 2: the environment.

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Speaker 3: Let's give it a shot, because baby up.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine the baby on the public transport and

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Speaker 2: doing his business life over the joint?

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Speaker 1: Like wow, And that's really going to be pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: It honestly worse. I've had three children, the first two

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Speaker 3: who's a traditional and that he is, and it took

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Speaker 3: about two years and it eventually worked.

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Speaker 2: But the third one went to Montessori school.

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Speaker 1: He wed his undertand maybe one and then.

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Speaker 2: He basically trained himself.

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Speaker 3: And it really really really worked.

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Speaker 1: Wow. But you know, want to be that kid where

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Speaker 1: your mum brings a spare pair of pants after the schools?

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Speaker 1: Do you, Amanda?

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Speaker 2: Were you Brendan High School was hard for you?

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a university when your mom came up?

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Speaker 3: Do you want to discuss when your mom brought the

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Speaker 3: roller player they were up.

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Speaker 2: To the school? You'd rather wet your pants and that story,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't you?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I think I just did with Jones and Amanda