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Speaker 1: knew nothing about the event on the twenty ninth. There

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Speaker 1: on the line is the Lord Mayor of Darwin convat

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Speaker 1: Scolars Good Morning.

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Speaker 2: Corn, Good Mone Katie Corn.

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Speaker 1: Why two events for the Cyclone Tracy unveiling of the

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Speaker 2: There's only one event, Katie, and that's on the thirty

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Speaker 2: of August. The event, a so called secret event on

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Speaker 2: the ten nine of August, is that the artist will

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Speaker 2: be up here to commission the sculpture and we find

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to actually bring some of the peoples in

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Speaker 2: the committee people were instrumentally the construction of the structure

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Speaker 2: or finding us the money from Canberra to meet the

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Speaker 2: Artistan side. The prom move with a side is still

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Speaker 2: the walks of regulations. The real event is open for

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Speaker 2: everybody on the thirtieth of November, nine o'clock at the Ski.

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Speaker 1: Club con I'm gonna call bs. I mean I got

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Speaker 1: invited to that event on the twenty ninth. And no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a Cyclone Tracy survivor.

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Speaker 2: No, but others are other members of the committee. King

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Speaker 2: Then of course you're invited because the media and you're

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Speaker 1: I am not more important than those Cyclone Tracy survivors.

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Speaker 1: In fact, you know to me, they are the people

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Speaker 2: Are thought by us. And that's why we have anopen

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Speaker 1: Con The Cyclone Tracy survivors are furious. They're upset, they

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Speaker 2: We don't unveil a sculpture, and I know some people

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Speaker 2: we've been installed in East Point by the incorporated body

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Speaker 2: that represent these survivors. The sculptures, the sculpture is not

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Speaker 2: the monument, is not the memorial. The memorial it will

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Speaker 1: Con have these Cyclone Tracy survivors been excluded on purpose

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Speaker 2: Of course, not cycling survivors. Actually, we're including the communitee

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Speaker 2: I've got cyclos. I was in my council council partners

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Speaker 2: Council Peter Panqui is another one of them, and all

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Speaker 2: of them were in the council that approved this culture

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Speaker 2: Because it's not the mayor's decision. The decisions council is

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Speaker 1: Look, I get that, I get that it's not a

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Speaker 1: the Legislative Assembly should boycott. Are the commemorative service on

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Speaker 2: It was not organized for the reason is not an event.

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Speaker 2: The artist is here to commission statue the sculpture that

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Speaker 1: That sounds like an event.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not an event, because an event is the

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Speaker 2: one on the thirtieth of November. Are the Ski Club

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Speaker 1: There's no criticism of the there's no criticism of the

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Speaker 1: You know, people are quite quite fine with that happening,

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Speaker 2: The only people invited as before is the artist, the

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Speaker 2: And the reason for that is because it's a work site.

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Speaker 2: I would love to invite everybody there. I can't. It's

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Speaker 1: Tracy con Can you see how this would make Cyclone

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Speaker 2: Well, Katie, as said you before, I've been there before.

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Speaker 2: I've been both myself and other council has been abused

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Speaker 2: They made the feelings known. Other people like it. They

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Speaker 1: So is it a secret because people don't like us?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Like that's the big question here, I mean, are you

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Speaker 2: Well, but class, we're already there. I've read it, I've

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Speaker 2: everybody knows about it. We've got a meeting meet and

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Speaker 2: greet the artists, meet the artist who's coming to commission

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Speaker 1: So how many people are attending, Well, there wouldn't be.

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Speaker 2: More than seventy, but than fifty people because I can't

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Speaker 2: When it seems to be a construction site, everybody's welcome

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Speaker 1: Con how much is it costing to put on the

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Speaker 2: I have got a figure about in front of me,

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Speaker 2: but it's not going to be whining and dining. It's

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Speaker 1: So there's no food, drinks or anything.

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Speaker 2: Like that, not that I know of. Because it's a

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Speaker 1: But so the event on the thirtieth. You are saying

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Speaker 2: No, everybody's welcome to come and we start nine o'clock

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Speaker 2: and we'll go on. We don't cut the numbers. We'll

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Speaker 2: like everybody from the Darwin community survivors, even people who

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Speaker 2: nine o'clock and everybody is welcome. Lord mayor.

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Speaker 1: Some of those Cyclone Tracy survivors are urging you to

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Speaker 2: No, I can't. I already invited people that are coming.

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Speaker 2: The artists will be here. He will be there to

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Speaker 2: actually commission his structure. I think because some people don't

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Speaker 2: stop it. I'm sorry, been decided by the whole council.

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Speaker 2: It's been accepted now and people here some people that

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Speaker 2: Cyclone Tracy survivors have not been forgotten. Councils have been

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Speaker 2: backwards to assist everybody organize events, remembering cyclone Press incorporated

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Speaker 2: body to put the memorial in East Point. Work with

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Speaker 2: put it. What was that group to organized events? I

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Speaker 2: I have talked, I've responded to many many people in

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Speaker 2: And to say that the council ignored them, it is

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Speaker 1: Coin. How do you think you know we bring everybody

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Speaker 1: How do you think that we mention this because we

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Speaker 2: I why my best and all my fellow councils try

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Speaker 2: our best to make this event to be the best

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Speaker 2: one that can happen. It's the fifty year anniversary. We

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Speaker 2: a near replacement, and I'll be there because I want

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Speaker 1: He said, it's his son's birthday coming up in two

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Speaker 2: The pool is managed by WYAMCA. I have to go

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Speaker 2: back and ask about it and find out, Katie, and

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Speaker 2: I'll come back to your combat scarlets.

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Speaker 1: Lord Mayor of Darwin, appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Anytime, Katy, anytime.

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Speaker 1: Thank you,