1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: It's Georgia among this coffee. This is what ended up 2 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: on the cutting room floor today. 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: Have you ever been to the Museum of Older New 4 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Art in Tazzi Mona love it Hobart. It's it's extraordinary, 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: it's confronting, it's beautiful, it's ugly, it is quite It's 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: quite an experience, isn't it. The man who has put 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: that together, David Walsh's his name is hugely eclectic, as 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: is his wife, Kersher Koshelle. She has curated a space 9 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: in the museum that has been the subject of a 10 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: court case. We'll start at the news this is the 11 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: brand new news about this court case, and we'll go 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: back then and explain what the court case was about. 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: So on Friday, just as Shane Marshall overturn a decision 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: made by the Tasmanian Civil and Administrative Tribunal that found 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: that one of their exhibits had been discriminatory. It was 16 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: the Lady's Lounge. It was found initially that this had 17 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: gone against the state's antidiscrimination Act, but that's recently been 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: overturned and it's back to a new tribunal. So Kursher Koshell, who, 19 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: as I said, is the wife of the owner of Mona. 20 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: She was a curator of this space, and essentially it 21 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: was a lady's lounge of art where men weren't allowed in. 22 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: And that was because the whole point, the whole concept 23 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: of this space was about the consistent exclusion of women 24 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: from power and privilege. And one man said, how come 25 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: I can't go in there? Took it to court and 26 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: they were told it was discriminatory, even though the whole 27 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: point of it was to show how offensive discrimination is. Yeah, 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: that's odd, that's the whole point of the point. That's right, 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: it's showing a mirror in your face. And this guy 30 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: said I should be allowed to go in there. 31 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: And the court agreed. 32 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: So this has now been overturned, which is very interesting 33 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: and so Kersher has said she's actually quite grateful to 34 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: this man who has brought everyone on this journey. She said, 35 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 2: now more than ever, it's important for us to challenge 36 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: our perspectives with open interest and refine our understanding. I've 37 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: enjoyed every minute of this process because there were great 38 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: shots of her and a phalanx of a legal team, 39 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: all women, heading into court to say, this. 40 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Angry man. 41 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: Is fighting exactly what the whole point of this exhibition is. 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: That's exactly what the point of the exhibition is. That's crazy. 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: I thought you was soap from there. Yes, yes, thanks 44 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: for that. 45 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: It is as my hairdresser says, he is French, and 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: he said, there's an exhibit of a wall of vagen. 47 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: Which is French word for the downstairs. 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: And and it's a great exhibition because it is about 49 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: the variety of women's organs and you never see it. 50 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: So women judge themselves because I think there's is weird. Yeah, 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: I loved it, and I thought you was soap. You 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: can get choose a soap. 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: They also remember they had the pooing machine. 55 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and at three o'clock every day it would show 56 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: the intricacies of the human gastro intestinal track. And at 57 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: three o'clock every day it would do a PLoP. It 58 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: smelt like a human PLoP. 59 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: It was just like you did three o'clock. Mine's normally 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: round four. They didn't have that at the gift shop though, 61 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: I would have brought you one of those. 62 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 2: Yeh. 63 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: By the way, I need another soap. My one's run out. Simon. 64 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: Put a seatbelt on it. 65 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 2: Okay, kids, that's important. 66 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Gone back tomorrow on Moral, Chaunsey and Amanda's clothing.