1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: We know that Deloyd has crunched the numbers on the 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: value of the hospitality industry in the Northern Territory, finding 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: it's contributed four hundred and twenty seven million dollars in 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: gross territory product last financial year, paying one hundred and 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: eighty seven point five million. 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: In taxes to the government. 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: Now, the industry snapshot also found that visitors spend one 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: hundred and forty one million dollars helping employ more than 9 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand workers in tourism and hospitality. Now joining us 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: on the line to tell us a little bit more 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: is hospitality into CEO. 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: Alex Bruska boarding Alex. 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: Good morning, Katie, Alex. 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: How come this well, how come I suppose this report 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: was you know, was implemented or was put together? 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: I look just a bit timely for us to get 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: an updated snapshot of who we are and our position 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: in the territory. You know, we are a large provider 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: of jobs and twelve point one percent of the economy. 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: We are one of them, the bringer in the Interstates 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: and international money to the benefit of the local economy, 22 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 3: alongside other things like international education. Our median worker age 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: is twenty five, so really does show that we skew young. 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 3: We're often your first job or your job while you're studying, 25 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: or a job while you're thinking about what job you want. 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: So you know, we really do play a key role 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 3: alongside other industries. If the government is serious about the 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: rhetoric that they're putting out there about wanting to see 29 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,119 Speaker 3: more workforce participation, I. 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: Reckon, most people start their careers, don't they in hospitality. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: I worked at Malanka's in Alice Springs many many, many 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: years ago. 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 3: Alex I came up with a broken out camper trailer, 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 3: a third kid on the way, and I found myself 35 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: pouring beers at one of the great establishments in Darwin 36 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 3: for six months. Even years later, here. 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: I am caden. 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: That didn't take you long to get to move that 39 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: fast up the food. 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Chain must be good on the other side of the bar. 41 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Well, look, and I reckon most people would have a 42 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: story about working in hospitality, like in the hospitality industry. 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: Like you're so spot on with saying that a lot 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: of people it is. It's an industry that you work in, 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: particularly when you are a bit younger. Not being a 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: just in any way, but I mean, what are some 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: of the like, taking that into account and taking into account, 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: you know, the years that we've gone through with COVID 49 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: as well. What are some of the biggest challenges that 50 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: the industry is facing at the moment. 51 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 3: Look pleasingly, we have seen a lot of the workforce 52 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 3: shortages that were acute during and after the pandemic ease, 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 3: particularly for you know, those front of house positions. We 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: are getting a healthy stream. Would always like to see 55 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: more backpackers and working holidaymakers, but they did. They did 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: come back last year and they're putting their cvs across 57 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 3: the bars around Darwin already this season, indicating that they're 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: wanting to work while they travel around and hopefully enjoy 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 3: the territory as much as the rest of us. So 60 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: we've just got back to those traditional skills shortages there, 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 3: the skilled chefs, the skilled managers in our lards, accommodation 62 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: hotels and those positions which we've always needed to continue 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 3: to recruit for given our size, the cost of airlines, 64 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 3: the charity of distance. So we have seen a bit 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 3: of a recovery, but we'll just continually be out there 66 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 3: chasing more skills and that's also an important pathway for 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: local territorying kids. You know, there are very rewarding long 68 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: term jobs in our industry that are in your local community. 69 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: Are they different things that are being done to sort 70 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: of try and entice skilled workers from overseas as well 71 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: to sort of fill some of those jobs. 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: A look, there are and into state and local. I 73 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: think we always need to focus on all three in 74 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: equal measure. I keep getting hearing this from other industries 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: as well, public and private sectors. Getting skills from interstate 76 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 3: is quite a challenge. Moment airlines do keep coming up 77 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: or capacity for aviation. I don't want to be kicking 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: anyone on that, but you know, it does make it 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: challenging when people start to think about moving into state 80 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: to come up here for a job, and then they 81 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: look at the cost of the flights, the limited capacity 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: access sometimes and you know, will I be able to 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: pop down and see Mumm if she gets crooked at 84 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: a moment's notice for a reasonable price. Maybe not as 85 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 3: much as we'd like. And this is definitely dampening recruitment 86 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 3: into the territory. So there's that pipeline. The backlog of 87 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: the international processing got a lot better over the last 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 3: twelve months. It's still a fair few red tape hurdles 89 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: to jump, and you know, there were a lot of 90 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people come and join Australia last year, 91 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: which Northern Australia is always happy to see. But we 92 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 3: do sense a bit of a turning in the large 93 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: cities down south Sydney, Melbourne, they're starting to put up 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: the no vacancy at the end signs again and we 95 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: do talk with the Federal Ministered Trials about that. You know, 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: if you're sitting in Melbourne a full well, that's well 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: and good. We're not would love. 98 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: Them to come up and be directory exactly. 99 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: We do always advocate for a Northern Australia approach when 100 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: it comes to those international pathways as well. 101 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: Now tell me in terms of I mean you and 102 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: I have spoken at links about these over the last 103 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: couple of years, and we've spoken to you know, to 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Tourism Central Australia. 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: We've talked so much about it. The issues of crime. 106 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: Is there a way or have you been able to 107 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: sort of to quantify the impact that crime has had 108 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: on the industry. 109 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: Oh, look, there are there are stories right across the 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 3: territory of you've tried hard and you've got that person 111 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: into your business. It's the missing piece of the puzzle 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: and whether they're an interstate or international and then a 113 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 3: really really bad event happens for them, crime related, and 114 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: they just pack up and leave again. So that's some 115 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: fortunately stories that were emanating out of alysis few years 116 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 3: ago and now it's territory wide for it. So you know, 117 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: the crime the lawlessness that we do face as a community, 118 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: we're just part of it as everybody else is. It 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: does the impact how much people do want to stick 120 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: around up here, and I don't want to be talking 121 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 3: the place down and obviously, you know, with all the 122 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 3: national focus on our springs last year, it definitely didn't 123 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: do any favors for us being out there trying to 124 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: promote and market Central Australia's great assets and reasons to 125 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: go down there. 126 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: You know. Well, and this is the thing we all 127 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: want to you know, to make sure that we're really 128 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: promoting the Northern Territory. We're a our greatest ambassadors to 129 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: people into state and to other locations, which is why 130 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: we've got to get a handle on it. But hey, 131 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: I do want to ask as well, in terms of 132 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: your international visitor numbers, and just I suppose numbers. More generally, 133 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to the tourism side of things, how 134 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: are they looking. If they bounce back quite a bit 135 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: after COVID, we think we'll have. 136 00:06:53,680 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: Quite a strong drive market. It does change on the 137 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 3: crime I'm not wanting to focus on that, but the 138 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: drive market might limit how much time they spend in 139 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 3: and around ALLUS springs and as an example, but we'll 140 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: still see them traveling up and down the highway and 141 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 3: stay at our roadhouses or some of the resorts along 142 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: the way. So we're going to have a good drive 143 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: season fingers crossed and road road closures. Aside for that market, 144 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: the domestic market's going to be pretty much what we 145 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: got last year. It was a short, sharp peak season 146 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: for US. The shoulders have collapsed post pandemic. The international 147 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: market hasn't returned yet. There are a pretty strong delegation 148 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: of tourism operated over in Germany at the moment though 149 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: at one of the large ones where they talk to 150 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: the people that book the bulk products. So we want 151 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: to see more graying socks and sandal wearing Germans out 152 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: there amongst us this season. So there's a level of 153 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: effort going on there. I think we'll be all right. 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: I think people are planning pretty much similar numbers to 155 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: last year. The survey which we set into the Deloitte 156 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: work showed nearly half our businesses think we'll have a 157 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: similar year. About forty more percent think we're actually going 158 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: to grow, which is great if we can employ, employ 159 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: more locals and anyone else that wants to become a territorium. 160 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, crime, seventy five percent of them think crimes 161 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 3: being impacted their businesses in the whole range of things 162 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: that you wouldn't automatically think. It's not just the breakthrough, 163 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: the smash window, which unfortunately is becoming a weekly occurrence 164 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: and to some of our venues a nightly occurrence. It's 165 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: the impact on those key staff and trying to keep 166 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: them retained in your businesses as well. 167 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's spot like you're spot on what you're saying, 168 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: spot on, Alex. I do want to ask, I understand 169 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong. I do understand that 170 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Hospitality has met with the Police Minister Brent Potter about 171 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: those alcohol restrictions and the Pali situation in Central Australia. 172 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: We do catch up regularly with the ministry. He has 173 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: had an open door policy since he took the reins 174 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: and more than just the police portfolio when he picked 175 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: up the alcohol policy one at the end of December 176 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: as well. So we have been engaging with him on 177 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 3: what the Liquor Act review it was tabled at the 178 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: end of the last year, what package of works he 179 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: might be taking through Parliament the next next few weeks. Look, 180 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 3: the Pali footprints definitely a topic that's being raised by 181 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 3: members and liquor records in those regional areas. The two 182 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: dry days in Alice and again liking in the dhal 183 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: And discussion where we saw a knock on effect and 184 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: unintended that we could we could pre or flow on 185 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: for impacts for on premise, it's not just two days 186 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: that some of those establishments have turned particularly indigenous in 187 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: their clientell. That's their venues now. So and then you'll see, 188 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: you know, the brass and the hierarchy go down there 189 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: and they go, oh my gosh, what's happened to this. 190 00:09:55,600 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 3: Part of the answer is government, you did this, So 191 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: what do. 192 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: You say Are you saying that people Are you saying 193 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: that people who usually drink sort of in public places 194 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: or some of the you know, the clientele that usually 195 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: are out drinking in public sort of places are all 196 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: just are all inside those businesses. 197 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: Now. 198 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 3: It's no surprise in Catherine Tenant and other springs where 199 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: you open public bars at ten o'clock when you used 200 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: to open the bottle shops down there at the same time. 201 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 3: But now, for all the great decisions that have been taken, 202 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 3: we're told you only open them at two o'clock, three 203 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 3: o'clock and four o'clock. In those different towns, you'll see 204 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: non indigenous cohorts drink more more prevalent in clubs that 205 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: can be restrictive of their membership and walk through any 206 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: of those pubs during the day. So this is a 207 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: long standing thing. This is not a new phenomenon at all. 208 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to use that our word that's been 209 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 3: getting thrown around this week a lot on other issues. 210 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: But you know, it's the reality that often when we 211 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: make one measure, it has these other flow on consequences. 212 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: And the other thing that we were pleased to hear 213 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: Minister Potter talking about at the beginning of this year 214 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: when he did say that the two dry days were 215 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: on the table and to be reviewed. Was that. You know, 216 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 3: if you if you make these supply side changes to 217 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: our rule book, over time they lose their efficacy and 218 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: so then the next flare up comes up, and the 219 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: hanswer can't always be let's go back and rewrite those 220 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: blokes rules again. You know, It's just we're at the 221 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: bottom of the well. We're tapped out. We've got to 222 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 3: start putting the lens over all the money, the millions 223 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: and the billions that are going into government and NGO 224 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 3: to actually get behind and try and address the real problems. 225 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: But again, not my baliwick. I'm in my lane. 226 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: I do want to ask though, in terms of the 227 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, like in terms of the palis coming off 228 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: the bottle shops, what have you been told, will there 229 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: be liquor inspectors or are some of those businesses going 230 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: to sort of have to hire additional security. 231 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: What's going to happen. 232 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: I think it's a bit blended and it's a bit 233 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: mixed in the response in those three different towns, police 234 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: have been indicating some of that to the affected venues 235 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 3: and businesses. The accords did write in saying, look, we 236 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: don't feel like we're giving enough information to make planning 237 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 3: decisions like putting on more security and everything else, and 238 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 3: we did discuss that in our recent meeting with Minister 239 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: Potter and he got to that a little bit. So 240 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 3: we are just trying to what's the government's position, what 241 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 3: are they doing, and we'll try and leverage off that 242 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: to make sure that we're protecting our staff, our customers 243 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: and our assets as best we can. 244 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Well Hospitality in t CEO, Alex Bruce, it's always good 245 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: to catch up with you. 246 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate your time this morning. 247 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: Tfktie all the best, thank you,