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Speaker 1: And Amanda.

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Speaker 2: When I heard of the shark attack on Mercury Slacis

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Speaker 2: at Long Reef Beach, it just there were so many

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Speaker 2: emotions that came up.

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Speaker 1: Firstly, like what a tragedy form to happen to him?

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Speaker 2: But also when something like that happens, you think, well,

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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time in the surf and

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Speaker 2: I've never really thought about shark attack.

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Speaker 3: It's just because this is a beach we don't expect.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing, because it happened in Long Reef.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes when you hear about shark attacks, it's over in

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Speaker 2: Western Australia, all those sharky areas in South Australia, or

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Speaker 2: even right up north.

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Speaker 1: You don't think it's going to be happening in our

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Speaker 1: in our environs. And when you.

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Speaker 2: Look at Long Reef to Cronulla. I'm always at Cronulla,

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Speaker 2: but I just you know.

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Speaker 3: But there were shark nets too, and in the news.

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Speaker 2: Lately, yeah, and then there's a lot of talk about

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Speaker 2: removing shark nets.

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Speaker 1: And whether they do more harm than good. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: because they.

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Speaker 2: Get sea turtles and they get seals and they get

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Speaker 2: everything else. It's a big catchment area. But also, they

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Speaker 2: stopped hunting sharks a long time ago. We used to

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Speaker 2: kill them all the time, and things have changed.

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Speaker 1: There's more people in the water.

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Speaker 2: And this is but this doesn't help out Mercury's family

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Speaker 2: in anything, and that just you know, that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I remember being at Cronulla Point some years ago and

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Speaker 2: I was with a mate. We were both on our

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Speaker 2: stand up boards and it was just the two of

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Speaker 2: us and he said, what was that?

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Speaker 1: And I said, that's just a dolphin And then I

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Speaker 1: saw the dorsal. That's a dolphin. That's a shark, and

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Speaker 1: it was a great white shark, was a it was

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Speaker 1: a fairly large shark. And I remember the cheapers, is

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Speaker 1: that what it was? Well, that's what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: It was a you know, yeah, And I don't want

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Speaker 2: to go into any details about it because it's so distressing.

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Speaker 2: But you know, on Sunday I usually go out for

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Speaker 2: a surf and I actually didn't go into the sew

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Speaker 2: and for a paddle just in the bay because I

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Speaker 2: just thought, I don't know, I just really scared. I've

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Speaker 2: never been spooked by it before, and you know, and

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Speaker 2: that's the stuff that breaks your heart, you know, you think,

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Speaker 2: oh god, you know, and like, I do it too

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Speaker 2: many risky things in my life as it is, and

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Speaker 2: I thought, well.

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Speaker 3: You know, but the idea too about sharknits. And this

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Speaker 3: has been in the news and mens has said, because

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Speaker 3: they're doing but removing them, you said, well, let's stop, and.

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Speaker 1: MINSI once again is showing great leadership.

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Speaker 3: And saying, you know what, keep them in place.

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Speaker 1: This has spooked a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: There was a shark net there though, wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So there's a giant shark net at Long Reef.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's one hundred and fifty meters long, and

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Speaker 2: it's about six meters in depth, and then they sink

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Speaker 2: that down to like a ten to twelve meters of water,

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Speaker 2: so we don't within five of the shop do We

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Speaker 2: don't know. And then there's drum lines which pretty much

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Speaker 2: kill the shark. So there's and I've heard stories from

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Speaker 2: the Bondai lifeguards about they've got like they use rio

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Speaker 2: bar to put the bait on for the and they've

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Speaker 2: stopped spoken about how the rio bar is bent straight

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Speaker 2: from the shark that's ripped that off. So we're living

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Speaker 2: in their world. Having said that, though, in the bad

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Speaker 2: days of the sixties and seventies, they usued toly just

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Speaker 2: go and cull sharks.

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Speaker 1: They'd kill millions and millions of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think peop want to see that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, and that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: And every year, like last year, we had a pub

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Speaker 2: test removing shark nets, and this is what the reaction

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Speaker 2: was back then.

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Speaker 3: I don't think sharkness pass the pub test.

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Speaker 1: Look, they take other creatures out.

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Speaker 3: I was a coodie and a turtle got stuck in it.

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Speaker 3: You know, the sharks can go under the sharks and

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Speaker 3: go over.

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Speaker 1: Look, you've got to take your chances.

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Speaker 3: You're going in the water.

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Speaker 1: There's millions of people in the water every day.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think they pass a pub test.

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Speaker 1: Not get rid of them. I reckon they're good if

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Speaker 1: they're to say people's wife.

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Speaker 3: I think people care more about people's like family, rather

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Speaker 3: than a couple of sharks dying here and there. I

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Speaker 3: think we should be educating the public on where to

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Speaker 3: be when we swim, rather than trying.

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Speaker 2: To slow down sharks in their natural habitat.

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Speaker 3: Things like don't swim at dawn and dusk, ride out

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Speaker 3: the back and don't swim after heavy rain because it's

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Speaker 3: incredibly murky at that time. So it's like prime hunting conditions,

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Speaker 3: And I feel like we should be educating people rather

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Speaker 3: than trying to kill sharks. It's a primal fear for

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Speaker 3: so and rightly so. Coming up next, we're going to

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Speaker 3: speak to someone who actually has been attacked by a shark,

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Speaker 3: but he has thoughts on maybe other ways that we

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Speaker 3: can deter sharks and where the sharknits are going to

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Speaker 3: work