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Speaker 1: Once again, this season, Quantas is proud to be flying

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Speaker 1: Australia's cricketers as they take on the world. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the Unplayable Podcast. Really big episode today

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Speaker 1: as we look ahead to the Men's Tea twenty World

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Speaker 1: Cup that's happening in India and Shrilanka josh Onafinger's my name,

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Speaker 1: joined once again by Kane Richardson, who's back after the

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Speaker 1: Big Bash break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show mate, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, We're back. Is it season two or is it?

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Speaker 3: Are we Is it the same season? We're just back

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Speaker 3: after the Big Dash break.

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Speaker 2: It's whatever you wanted to do, mate, that's whatever you

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Speaker 2: want it to be.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to say season two. I want to keep

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Speaker 3: ticking them, I want to tick them off. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to say season two. Welcome back to season two The Unplayable.

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Speaker 2: Podcast sounds good. Now.

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Speaker 1: Of course you don't love to talk about yourself, but

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Speaker 1: since we last spoke to you've retired from cricket. So

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Speaker 1: we just want to say congratulations on behalf of the

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Speaker 1: whole team. And was it a tough decision to make

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Speaker 3: No, it was a no brainer, especially after boxing day

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. But now looking forward to retirement life,

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Speaker 3: which to be honest, doesn't look too different to what

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Speaker 1: Three hundred and thirty three professional matches in your career,

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Speaker 3: Mind, Well, the highlight would probably be not playing, and

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Speaker 3: But when we won, I think that will always be

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Speaker 1: I saw a clip from your great mate Adam Zampa

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Speaker 2: Or was that a surprise to you as well.

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Speaker 3: I want to put this on the record. He didn't

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Speaker 3: organize them. I organized them, and I've paid for them.

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Speaker 3: I've got the Amazon receipt. So it was funny after

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think again. I'm I'm happy to just fly

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well done.

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Speaker 1: All those videos and photos that are last a lifetime,

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Speaker 2: Yes, mate.

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Speaker 1: On this show, we've got an interview with Tim David.

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Speaker 1: We've got Jack Painter over there in Sri Lanka from

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Speaker 1: the Unplayable podcast he caught up with the Big Hitter

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Speaker 1: we've mentioned a couple of times on this pot. I reckon, Richard,

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Speaker 1: So why don't we hear a quick word from our

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Speaker 1: sponsors and then we'll come back with our weekly winness.

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time since we've done a weekly winner,

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Speaker 1: rich Oh, so let's make this a winner of twenty

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Speaker 3: Well, now you've said that my weekly winner will be

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Speaker 3: But I'll also give it to someone who's actually performed

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Speaker 1: He is a big man and that's a big performance.

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Speaker 1: They'll need a lot more of that from him. The

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, to be honest, I don't know, Like I haven't.

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Speaker 3: I've been following, you know, every team's progress that closely

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Speaker 3: He's not the first and not saying this with these

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's doing some side quests, isn't he? After the ashes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, Tim David. We've spoken a lot

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Speaker 1: for a year, did very well in fact, after he'd

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Speaker 5: Give us an update on Honey has that good?

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Speaker 6: Good, just having had any cricket to play for a while.

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Speaker 5: Is running, batting, fielding. Last night I think left to

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Speaker 6: I want a bowl, but they're not letting me look

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Speaker 5: Was there any initial fears for the World couple of

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Speaker 6: Only when I first did it, I was just annoyed

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Speaker 5: Be a part of that.

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Speaker 6: So when I first did it, But when once I

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Speaker 5: I think I saw. Was it Mitch who was out

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Speaker 6: The game, it's just an interesting dynamic, I suppose, because

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so we got to a global qualifier where we

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Speaker 5: You still feel connected to the Singapore team. So they

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Speaker 5: You still got the shit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've definitely still got some couple had Tim seventy

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Speaker 6: and associate positions in those leagues, and so I think

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Speaker 6: that's the carrot for the guys is to try and

438
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Speaker 6: make a living playing cricket.

439
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Speaker 5: Yeah, ninety two or thirty two against Laysia Bangkok, your

440
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Speaker 5: highest te twenty score until last year. What do you

441
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Speaker 5: remember of that knock?

442
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Speaker 6: That's one of the best I've ever had it honestly,

443
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Speaker 6: like guys, the guys laugh and I'm like, I bang

444
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 6: them that day, Like it was. There wasn't a scoreboard

445
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Speaker 6: at the ground, so I thought there was another over,

446
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Speaker 6: so I thought I had a chance of getting a hundred,

447
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Speaker 6: but and then they said, I think I took a single.

448
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Speaker 6: I might not have got a single off the last ball,

449
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Speaker 6: but yeah, like that's it. And I was I was

450
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Speaker 6: hoping to keep going. I was singing them pretty good.

451
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Speaker 5: Did you know what you're on at all?

452
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Speaker 4: Doing that?

453
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Speaker 5: In so it's just like that's like awesome greed and

454
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Speaker 5: he's sweet.

455
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was smacking it. It was, Yeah, that was

456
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Speaker 6: aboutten pretty good.

457
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, that's Tim David one of the best knocks

458
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Speaker 1: he's ever played. In fact, you can actually find footage

459
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Speaker 1: of that in things against Malaysia on YouTube if you

460
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Speaker 1: are so inclined. Ninety odd off thirty balls, rich Ore,

461
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Speaker 1: some very clean hitting from a very young Tim David there,

462
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Speaker 1: so definitely worth a look if you've got any time

463
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Speaker 1: a very strong associate fla to this T twenty World Cup.

464
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Speaker 1: Did you ever other than T twenty World Cups, Richal,

465
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Speaker 1: I mean, did you get to play against or deal

466
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Speaker 1: with associate teams or players much throughout your career? Yeah.

467
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Speaker 3: I was trying to think about this for a while

468
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Speaker 3: and it's not something that happened commonly, but I reckon

469
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Speaker 3: there was a few years where we would teams would

470
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Speaker 3: go up to Darwin, kind of like they do now

471
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Speaker 3: with the T twenty comps, but we would do it

472
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Speaker 3: as like a preseason trip. I think the UAE would

473
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Speaker 3: come over quite often, trying to think of us popping

474
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Speaker 3: New Guinea for a while, would come out and play

475
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Speaker 3: against South Australia. I don't think they're involved in this

476
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Speaker 3: World Cup. Are they popping New Guinea? They didn't make

477
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Speaker 3: the Cup for this one, but they were for a

478
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Speaker 3: while around the Mark and then Nepal recently they were

479
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Speaker 3: playing up and down in that that T twenty series

480
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Speaker 3: basically had home support every game because you know, Darwin's

481
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Speaker 3: kind of the I think it's geographically just as close

482
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Speaker 3: as Nepal as it is to Melbourne. But yeah, that's

483
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Speaker 3: probably the extent of my might do it. But also

484
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Speaker 3: Tom Cooper previous teammate of Southtralia for a long time

485
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Speaker 3: playing for the Netherlands, so we also always took an

486
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Speaker 3: interest in them because again throughout T twenty World Cups

487
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Speaker 3: they were very prevalent as they are again this year,

488
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Speaker 3: so have always had our eyes on the associate nations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it wasn't Cooper involved in a

490
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Speaker 1: match where the Netherlands beat England in one of those

491
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Speaker 1: T twenty World Cups one of those years, a pretty

492
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Speaker 1: famous victory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he was, I reckon he was quite

494
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Speaker 3: young in his Holland experience at that time. But I think,

495
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Speaker 3: you know, Dirk Nanners is also a famous one that played.

496
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Speaker 3: That was the Lord's I think that game where they've

497
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Speaker 3: been and that was quite a famous one if they've

498
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Speaker 3: not done it since. But Tom's brother Ben also played

499
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Speaker 3: and I know that family pretty well and I see

500
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Speaker 3: them quite a bit around kind of where I live now,

501
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Speaker 3: so it's always a good reminder of Yeah, they've got

502
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Speaker 3: odii's and T twenty World Cup games to their name,

503
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Speaker 3: and you know Ben's now playing suburban cricket out in

504
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Speaker 3: Northern Rivers, so you never know where you're going to

505
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Speaker 3: find a World coupler.

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic.

507
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Speaker 1: So I wanted to introduce a new segment for this episode.

508
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Speaker 1: They are still pending. I'm thinking the Big Four is

509
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Speaker 1: what we're going to call this sign and feel free

510
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Speaker 1: to chime in with your own suggestions, but this is

511
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Speaker 1: where I'll get did a list the top four of

512
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Speaker 1: any given category, and on this week's category, we're going

513
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Speaker 1: to go for associate players. So who are the Big

514
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Speaker 1: four associate players of all time? I mean you've already

515
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Speaker 1: mentioned a couple there. Do they find a way onto

516
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Speaker 1: your list?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? They do? But also what's the parameters here? Because

518
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Speaker 3: you know there's guys from Ireland who I think will qualify,

519
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Speaker 3: but they're a test playing nation now aren't they? So

520
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Speaker 3: do they still? You know, I'm thinking like a Paul Sterling,

521
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Speaker 3: he's had such a long story career with Ireland, but

522
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Speaker 3: he also now they're a test playing nation. Does he qualify?

523
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Speaker 3: So there's a bit of gray area here that as

524
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Speaker 3: Judge master, if you're not going to be involved in

525
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Speaker 3: the conversation and you're just going to make me do

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Speaker 3: the work.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Paul's okay because he played for Ireland

528
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Speaker 1: before they were a Test name. Yes, so he gets

529
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Speaker 1: a tick from me.

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Speaker 3: But then with that, does Own Morgan then qualify as well?

531
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Speaker 2: Because yeah, absolutely though, yeah he played for Ireland.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I'm not gonna I'm not going to pay

533
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Speaker 3: that one will I will say Ryan ten Discardo's he's

534
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Speaker 3: like the pin Up Boys and of the Associate Cricketing Nations.

535
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, he did this.

536
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Speaker 3: What ten fifteen years ago he averaged sixty seven and

537
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Speaker 3: I think ODII cricket. He played Big Bash. I remember

538
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Speaker 3: playing Big Bash early Big Bash with him at the Strikers.

539
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: That's terrific, fella. He also was he was playing ipl

540
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Speaker 3: and stuff, so it's not as if he was you know,

541
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Speaker 3: you're getting picked up just because you know, selling tickets

542
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Speaker 3: or getting people to view in from from Amsterdam. Like

543
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Speaker 3: he was a genuine player and his numbers speak for himself.

544
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Speaker 3: So I'm going to say he's the goat, he's the

545
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Speaker 3: he's the top tier. And then underneath I'll give Coops

546
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Speaker 3: his flowers just Tom just because he's been such a

547
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Speaker 3: long teammate of mine, but also his career that he

548
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Speaker 3: had in Australia. Also whilst he played for the Netherlands.

549
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Speaker 3: I'm going to give Paul Sterling yep ye the third nod.

550
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Speaker 3: I played Under ninety World Cup against him and even

551
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Speaker 3: then you could tell that he was a level above

552
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Speaker 3: all right, kind of everyone that was there just played

553
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Speaker 3: the same way that he does now. As an eighteen

554
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Speaker 3: year old just walked out there and tried to club them.

555
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Speaker 3: And then I mean there's a list of names. There's

556
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Speaker 3: you actually throw Dirk Nanas at me last night, didn't you?

557
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Speaker 2: But I did.

558
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But there's a strong Dutch flavor already to your list,

559
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Speaker 1: so you might there is.

560
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Speaker 3: And also if I mean, if we're looking at Koreas,

561
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Speaker 3: he would easily you could easily say he's going to

562
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Speaker 3: be one boyd Rankin another who played for Ireland, went

563
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Speaker 3: to England, played Test creet then came back and finished

564
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Speaker 3: his career at Ireland. I actually don't know who to

565
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Speaker 3: go with for the fourth. George Munsey's kind of a

566
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Speaker 3: current day name from Scotland who's getting He's getting franchise

567
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Speaker 3: gigs all over the world. As a you know, an

568
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Speaker 3: opener who's smacks some conne in that sterling mold. So

569
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Speaker 3: I'm going to throw it to you. You deliberate for

570
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Speaker 3: me and pick the fourth.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, wow.

572
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Speaker 1: I did write down a few names because I thought

573
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Speaker 1: you might ask for my opinion. Pavel Floren is one

574
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Speaker 1: who comes to my end from Romania. Probably not on

575
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 1: the same level as your Ryan tender Scarters, but certainly

576
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Speaker 1: made waves a few years ago, didn't he with his

577
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Speaker 1: unusual bowling action.

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Speaker 2: He's not going to be the one though.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tickolo was another who came to mind from Kenya.

580
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Speaker 1: Y did great at that two thousand and three World Cup,

581
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Speaker 1: but then Kenyan cricket has sort of declined, so we've

582
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Speaker 1: sort of forgotten about the Steve Tickolos. But what about

583
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Speaker 1: someone like Eric Durson Zemana.

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Speaker 2: Have you heard of Eric?

585
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Speaker 3: I haven't.

586
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Speaker 1: So he used to captain Rwanda and he holds the

587
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: Guinness World record for the longest net session fifty one hours.

588
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Speaker 1: He batted four in a single man to raise money

589
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Speaker 1: for cricket. Now he hasn't played at a World Cup,

590
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: so maybe we can't go for Eric, but I thought

591
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Speaker 1: he did deserve a shout out. I'm going to go

592
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Speaker 1: for Dirk nanas I love Dirk Fast but left armor,

593
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: cross country skier, you name it, he's.

594
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Speaker 3: Going he does. It's a pretty good resume on and

595
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: off field, so again, as you said, pretty heavy Dutch flavor.

596
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Speaker 3: But there's a connection there with all of them. You know,

597
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Speaker 3: Australia Italy's coming now for our Love Affair as our

598
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: second team. They with their Australian connection. But I think

599
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Speaker 3: there are a pretty good set of four names that

600
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Speaker 3: wouldn't look out of place in any competition in the

601
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 3: world when they're at their best.

602
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Speaker 1: No chances of you pulling on some lineage or some roots,

603
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Speaker 1: family roots to qualify for any of these teams as there.

604
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Speaker 3: I wish I had that opportunity or that option. Daniel

605
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Speaker 3: Frankie Warrel's got an Irish connection, which I'm wondering why

606
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Speaker 3: he's never chose, because the man is just so Irish

607
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 3: off field like that would be and since moving over there,

608
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's crossed his mind. But yeah, Unfortunately for me,

609
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: I haven't got any anything that I can pursue. I'm

610
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: just just a boring old Aussie.

611
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Speaker 2: Well, well, you touched on the Italians.

612
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Speaker 1: They've got the men Anti brothers, they've got the Mosca

613
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Speaker 1: Brothers from Sydney, they've got Grant Stewart and there's a

614
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: lot of Australian connection at this year's tournament. Got Scotland

615
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Speaker 1: on Monday in their first match, and they've also got

616
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Speaker 1: matches against the West Indies and England coming up in

617
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Speaker 1: their group. Lots of exciting stuff to look forward to.

618
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Speaker 1: I chatted to grand a couple of days ago. We've

619
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Speaker 1: spoken about him on the pod before.

620
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Speaker 3: Rich.

621
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Speaker 1: Oh, he's done a lot of great work in county

622
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Speaker 1: cricket for the best part of ten years, hasn't it.

623
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Speaker 1: I think you said you've even played against it or

624
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Speaker 1: maybe with him.

625
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I've played with him at Kent actually, and

626
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: to be honest, before that, i'd heard of him. But

627
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: then I was watching a game I was like, who

628
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 3: is this guy? Obviously knew the Australian accent. They're like, oh,

629
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: he plays for Italy's Mun's Italian. But I always thought,

630
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: in the back of my mind could he play big

631
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 3: Bash because he was clubbing him at number eight and

632
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: bowling really handy kind of seam ups with good slaballs

633
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 3: and terrific fellow athlete. So for all the big Bush

634
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: recruiters out there, Grant Stuart, keep an eye on him.

635
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

636
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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, know Joe Burns for Italy at this tournament. He

637
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Speaker 1: captained them through their qualifying stage. But then a statement

638
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: was released that's saying that there was some sort of

639
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: disagreement or the two parties came to a mutual decision

640
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: not to come to the table. I saw Ben Manenti

641
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: on the Grade Cricket of podcast say it may have

642
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: been financial disputes. Richard, Do you have any information you

643
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: can give us on the Joe Burns Italy saga.

644
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Speaker 3: It hasn't come across my on my desk where I

645
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: live down here. I haven't heard about it at the

646
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: local coffee shops or anything, so unfortunately I haven't. I

647
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: haven't got anything to add, but it is disappointing. I mean,

648
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: he was obviously invested in that that lead up to

649
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: the World Cup and terrific player in his day, Joe,

650
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: So yeah, disappointing he's not going to be there, but

651
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure the reasons were come out. Maybe he'll do

652
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: a tell all book one day, or a memoir maybe

653
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 3: something like that story of your life kind of segment

654
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: and we'll get find out a bit more.

655
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Speaker 1: That'd be fantastic best selling book in the works. So

656
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Speaker 1: let's get to that chat with grand Stewart ahead of

657
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Speaker 1: Italy's Tea twenty World Cup campaign. It's always great to

658
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: chat to someone who's going to be participating at the

659
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Speaker 1: World Cup, and on this occasion we've got Grant Stuart

660
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: who's going to be an all rounder for Italy. He's

661
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: currently in Chennai and he joins us. Now, welcome to

662
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: the Unplayable Podcast.

663
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: Grant, how are you going good?

664
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Speaker 7: Thanks to you, Joshna. Great for you joining you, Thanks

665
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 7: for having me up.

666
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about obviously this World Cup

667
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: coming up, but a lot of people will be interested

668
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: about your backstory and how you came to play for

669
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: Italy and you've played for them for quite a few

670
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: years now as well. Cook Info says you're born in Calgooli,

671
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: but I've seen that you've played a lot in New

672
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Speaker 1: South Wales. Can you give us a bit of the

673
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: backstory first and how you sort of came to this position.

674
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Speaker 7: Yeah, sure, So I was born in Calgooley.

675
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 8: Like you said that, I'll be moved back to New

676
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 8: South Wales before I was even one, so I didn't

677
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 8: spend much time over that side of Australia. But yeah,

678
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 8: basically grew up a little bit in Sydney until I.

679
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 7: Was about eight or nine. And they're mainly in a.

680
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 8: Town called lawn Or It's just near Maitland and Newcastle

681
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Speaker 8: in New South Wales.

682
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 7: For parents still live there now.

683
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Speaker 8: So yeah, that was where most of upbringing was, playing

684
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Speaker 8: all my junior cricket.

685
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Speaker 7: And stuff through there.

686
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Speaker 8: And yeah, before I guess moved over to England just

687
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 8: to play club cricket originally, like most a lot of

688
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 8: Ossie cricketers do. Yeah, in twenty sixteen and I've been

689
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 8: there nearly ten years now, so yeah, funny how things

690
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 8: work out.

691
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Speaker 1: Wow, And were you ever in like the New South

692
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: Wales pathway system? Was state cricket ever on the radar?

693
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Speaker 2: Few in Australia, No I played.

694
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I played a bit of a rep cricket growing up,

695
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 7: but not at that sort of level.

696
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 8: I kind of the sort of pathway was they've been

697
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 8: in the country cricket system. I was played Maitland, Hannah Valley,

698
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 8: Central North that sort of stuff never quite got much

699
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 8: higher than that in a junior level. I think I

700
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 8: played the New South Falest country stuff when I was

701
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 8: twenty one, maybe in the men's team, but as a junior, and.

702
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Speaker 7: I was probably fair to say I was a bit

703
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 7: of a late bloomer.

704
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 8: I mixed around a bit. I was always always battered,

705
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Speaker 8: I guess, which is funny because my predominant role to

706
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Speaker 8: get in the professional contracts through my bowling.

707
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Speaker 7: But yeah, I dabbled.

708
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 8: It's a wiki keeper to start with bold a bit

709
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 8: of leg spin for a couple of years, and then

710
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Speaker 8: finally went to seem up at about sixteen years old

711
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Speaker 8: and went.

712
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Speaker 7: On from there.

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Speaker 2: That's hilarious.

714
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, you moved over to England to play

715
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: a bit of club cricket, but before long you're playing

716
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: for Ken, So something must have gone right over there

717
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: and you obviously found the group pretty quickly.

718
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess I was sort of progressing a little bit.

719
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,720
Speaker 8: As I said, I was a bit of a probably

720
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 8: a late Lake bloomer with my cricket started to progress

721
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 8: a little bit in Australia before I went over, like

722
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Speaker 8: I said, made the New South Walest countryside it was

723
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 8: pretty cool, and then basically went over and sort of

724
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 8: gave myself a couple of years. I planned to come

725
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 8: back and move to a capital city in Australia and

726
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 8: try and have it cracket.

727
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 7: It's a premier cricket there.

728
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 8: And first went over to England and then played club

729
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 8: cricket and met a bloke called Andy Delman who played

730
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 8: played a bit for South Australia back in a little

731
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Speaker 8: while ago, and then he got me down to Adelaide

732
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Speaker 8: and played a few seasons down there. But I guess, yeah,

733
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 8: my opportunity came came in England first, and I sort of, yeah,

734
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 8: I jumped at the opportunity.

735
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 7: So yeah, that was where that sort of came around.

736
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, And well I had to look at some

737
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: of your earlier matches when you did end up getting

738
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: that contract for Kent, and I found quite a random

739
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: sort of tour to the Caribbean that you did. You

740
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: end up getting Shivner and Chanda pull out in your

741
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: first match. Do you remember that and what happened there?

742
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: Ah?

743
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was unbelievable.

744
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 5: I was.

745
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 7: I thought, this is the best thing in the world.

746
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 7: I've basically gone.

747
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 8: My first first year as a professional, and our preseason

748
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 8: tour was to the Caribbean.

749
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 7: I thought, how can I get any better than this?

750
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 8: So yeah, I was lucky to get on that tour

751
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 8: as a first year on contract, but yeah, I didn't

752
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 8: play the first few games, wasn't getting picked and then

753
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 8: finally got the Knight against Guyana and yeah I managed

754
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 8: to pick up She was my first professional, our first

755
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 8: List day wicket. Yeah, that was pretty cool.

756
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 2: Definitely, that's fantastic.

757
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's certainly one to tell the grandchildren about. And

758
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: then the Italian team mate, So what's the connection there?

759
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: How do you qualify for them? And yeah, how have

760
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: you enjoyed being part of the Assouri?

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00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, so my mum's Italian.

762
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Speaker 8: I mightn't sound the most Italian, but yeah, obviously being

763
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 8: brought up in Australia got a very Australian data, as

764
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 8: you could probably imagine. Yeah, my mum's side of the

765
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 8: family's Italian, very close to them there, A lot of

766
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 8: them are based in Newcastle around where I live, so

767
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 8: the big Italian community there and very close growing up.

768
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Speaker 8: So a lot of the Italian traditions were very present

769
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Speaker 8: in my upbringing, that's for sure. But yeah, I guess

770
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 8: that was something I was kind of keen on for

771
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 8: a while, but never really knew the rut or sort

772
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 8: of knew anything around it. I'd heard about Italian cricket,

773
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 8: but yeah, I guess my first entry point was playing

774
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Speaker 8: against the Italian coach at the time.

775
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 7: He was playing county cricket for Hampshire.

776
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 8: And he sort of got a bit of a bit

777
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 8: of a sniff that I had Italian heritage and sort

778
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 8: of sounded me out a little bit, and I was

779
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 8: obviously very keen to jump at the opportunity. So yeah,

780
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 8: I sort of all went on from there. I think

781
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 8: been playing for five five years or so now for Italy,

782
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Speaker 8: so it's been Yeah, it's been awesome to see how

783
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 8: things have unfolded.

784
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: Who was the coach at the time that sort of

785
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: scattered you out.

786
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 8: It was Gareth Berg, So he's pre seasoned county cricket.

787
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 8: He's a good man, he's he's done a lot for

788
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 8: Italian cricket. But yeah, he's he's not playing anymore, but yeah,

789
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 8: no's he was very instrumental to I sort of getting

790
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 8: the squad together that we've got now, that's for sure.

791
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: Now.

792
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: When we spoke to Ben Mininti on the podcast last season,

793
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: he said he's a alien is pretty rubbish. I'm guessing

794
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: yours might be a little bit better than his.

795
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: I don't know.

796
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 7: I'm trying to learn.

797
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 8: I never unfortunately, like you said, yeah, mine's pretty average

798
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 8: as well. I've been taking a few lessons for a

799
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 8: little while now, trying to get a little bit better.

800
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 8: But yeah, I definitely we didn't speak much Italian at

801
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 8: home in our house, but obviously when we would go

802
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 8: to family family gatherings, it would be a lot of

803
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 8: Italian spoke.

804
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 7: But unfortunately I didn't pick up too.

805
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 4: Much of that.

806
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 8: And trying to do it the hard way now and

807
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 8: learn as I'm a bit older.

808
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: And what's it like inside the Italian team, because yeah,

809
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: it's a national team. It's not just a club or

810
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: a county side. This is actually an international side that

811
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Speaker 1: you're playing for. What's the vibe like inside the inside

812
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: the room? And I guess, yeah, what's it like to

813
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: know that you're stepping into an international match and now

814
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: an international tournament?

815
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's huge. Obviously, it's nothing that Italy's ever done.

816
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 8: Like said, the last twelve months has been it's been

817
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 8: big stepping stones for Italy. Like we've played the qualifiers,

818
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 8: a few times and not quite got through. And we've

819
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 8: managed to sort of get our nose into the World

820
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 8: Cup by qualifying and getting over in those big, biggest

821
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 8: sort of games for us, which is probably where we

822
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 8: sort of lacked it under those pressure games previously. But

823
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 8: our squad's really good. It's a great bunch of lads

824
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 8: and sort of all brought together by slightly different ways,

825
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 8: but there were our family sort of histories and stuff

826
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 8: like that are all very very similar, and yeah, it

827
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 8: was pretty united squad and that's suddenly all get around

828
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 8: each other about and yeah, it's a good team to

829
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 8: be a part of, that's for sure.

830
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: Those qualifiers last year looked incredible. Had to defeat Scotland

831
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: to make it through and you guys pulled that off

832
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: and the Scots have ended up in the tournament anyway

833
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: the way it's panned out. But can you take us

834
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: back to those men reason what the celebrations were, like

835
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: I suppose when you finally qualified.

836
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was amazing.

837
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 8: It's probably, yeah, probably one of the better feelings have

838
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 8: had on a cricket field.

839
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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like I said, a lot of fair few years

840
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 7: went into trying to qualify for a World carp and

841
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 7: that was definitely an ambition for the team for a while.

842
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 8: So to finally get over the line against Scotland, I

843
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 8: think there's a few nervy moments in there, but yeah,

844
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 8: luckily held our nerve on that day, and yeah, that

845
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 8: sort of rolled into some pretty hefty celebrations after that. Yeah,

846
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 8: a few weary bodies on the plane going back to

847
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 8: going back to England and wherever. The rest of it, well,

848
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 8: there's few to Rome, few back to odds. So yeah,

849
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 8: it was a good few days, that's for sure.

850
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Speaker 1: Is there a team song or are there are the

851
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: traditions inside this Italian team that is unique to it?

852
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, there is.

853
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 8: We've obviously got a bit of a team more cry

854
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 8: after a win, but I guess yeah, this sort of

855
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 8: team song that sort of gets floated around a fair

856
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 8: bit after a win is it's a bit of a

857
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 8: collaboration between Ed Sheeran and Andre Bacelli Perfect Symphony. So

858
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 8: that's sort of on the on the bus after a

859
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 8: game after a win that usually gets straight on the speakers.

860
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's always a good one for the boys

861
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 8: to get around too far.

862
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 2: I love that.

863
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: And then just last week on January twenty six, the

864
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: Italians defeated Ireland. You're there, You're a big part of

865
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: that three six is to win that match the first

866
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: time Italy have beaten the full member nation as well.

867
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: Talk us through the finish to that match, because yeah,

868
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: you had a big role to play.

869
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, another great day for early cricket.

870
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 8: Really, like I said, we've sort of been trying to

871
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 8: progress and to be able to play a series against

872
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 8: Ireland and really see where we sort of sit leading

873
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 8: into the World Cup is Yeah, obviously went down in

874
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 8: the series, but that gave us a lot of conference

875
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 8: that last game. But yeah, I was We sort of

876
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 8: had a couple of close ish games. The first two

877
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 8: games were in a sniff that sort of dropped the

878
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 8: ball in a couple of little phases of the game.

879
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 8: But yeah, luckily managed to get over the line in

880
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 8: the last one. Yeah, it's probably could have won it

881
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 8: a little bit easier than we did in the end.

882
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 8: I sort of stunk it up a little bit when

883
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 8: I first went to the crease, but thankfully managed to

884
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 8: catch up at the end. So it was good to

885
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 8: get the boys boys over the line.

886
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: Well done, well done.

887
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: As I said, you're in Chennai at the minute. Your

888
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: games are in Kolkatta and Mumbai. You've got Scotland, Nepaul,

889
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: England West Indies in your group. Any matches in particular

890
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: that you're really looking forward to, any players coming that

891
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: you're really looking forward to coming up against.

892
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a good question. I guess.

893
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm looking forward to all the games. Just to

894
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 8: be playing in World Cups. It's going to be amazing,

895
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 8: I guess.

896
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

897
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 8: The two big, bigger sort of nations in England and

898
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 8: the West Indies will be awesome to play against and

899
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 8: really test yourself against some of the better, best players

900
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 8: in the world. So yeah, I've played against a lot

901
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 8: of the England boys, so I know a little bit

902
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 8: about them. But yeah, it's obviously it's going to be

903
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:44,439
Speaker 8: very tough. Yeah, tough day at the office potentially, but yeah,

904
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 8: we'll be We're building a bit of momentum at the moment.

905
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 8: We've won a couple of couple of games in the

906
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 8: last two weeks, so yeah, hopefully you can put our

907
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 8: best foot forward and you never know, potentially creating upset

908
00:43:58,560 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 8: along the way in those four games.

909
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: Well, England do have a bit of a history of

910
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: losing to lower ranked sides at World Cups, so you

911
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: never know. You've got to be in it obviously to

912
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 1: win it. Jj Smutz he's going to be one of

913
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: your teammates as well. He's played for South Africa in

914
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: the past. I've read an article that said he hadn't

915
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: actually been to Italy, but he's going to pull on

916
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: the blue shirt for this tournament. Have you been over

917
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: there to Italy? I'm sure living in England you get

918
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: a good chance to see over the Italian peninsula or

919
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: something like that.

920
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I've ducked over there a fair few times,

921
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 8: so it's always always a nice driph any excuse to

922
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 8: get over there a good one for me.

923
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 7: So yeah, I didn't actually know that about JJB.

924
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, his wife's Italian, so he's sort of qualifies through

925
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 8: that that sort of direction. But he's going to be

926
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 8: massive for us, seriously experienced campaigner, and he would be

927
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 8: a levelhead for us going into those big games. Haven't

928
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 8: played on that sort of stage before, So yeah, he's

929
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 8: a great addition for us definitely.

930
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: And for fans who don't know a lot about your teammates,

931
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: we know them an anti brothers of course. Joe Burns,

932
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: miss selection. Who else should we be looking out for?

933
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: And who are you expecting is going to have a

934
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: big tournament for the Italians?

935
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,240
Speaker 8: I guess our captain Wayne Madson be he'll be pretty

936
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 8: crucial for us. He's another experienced campaigner batting through the

937
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 8: middle overs against spin will probably be a big part.

938
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 8: So he's another one, another young sort of up and coming.

939
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 8: Seemer's Tommy Dracer. He's also got born and grew up

940
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 8: in Australia as well, so he's on his day you

941
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 8: can get it through, So look out for him and

942
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 8: our leg spinner Krishan. He's he's someone's probably no one's

943
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 8: seen before and I think he could surprise a few

944
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 8: people for sure, definitely. So yeah, they'll probably be outside

945
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 8: obviously the men empty boys, which probably a lot of

946
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 8: the Aussies already know.

947
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. And so Krishan, where's he come from? How come?

948
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 4: Oh?

949
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know he's backstory at or?

950
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's of Sri Lankan heritage, but he's lived and

951
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 8: resided in Italy for I'm going to say fifteen twenty

952
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 8: years now, so that's how he's he's qualifies, but he's

953
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 8: all him and I think six or seven of the

954
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 8: other other local Italian boys went over to Srilanka pre

955
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 8: pre this tour.

956
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 7: And they've been training really hard, so.

957
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they've They've put in some really good preparation.

958
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 8: I think, yeah, a few potential names there might surprise

959
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 8: a few people, and I think they could. They could really,

960
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 8: I don't know, create a few a few little upsets

961
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 8: a long way.

962
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's fantastic.

963
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: And with so many I guess players with us heritage

964
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: in the in the squad, I mean, a good performance

965
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: here could get them on the radar for a Big

966
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: Bash contract or something in the future. Is that something

967
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: that's on your bucket list? Ground would you see your

968
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: like to see yourself playing in the Big Bash in

969
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: future seasons?

970
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 8: Ah, you know say never. Bet obviously plays a local

971
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 8: player in England, so that's a bit of a tough

972
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 8: ass to playing playing the Big Bash. Yeah, I'd be

973
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 8: competing with some pretty good overseas players for a gig.

974
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 7: But yeah, I've always sort.

975
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 8: Of I've grown up watching the Big Bash and watch it.

976
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 8: My old man obviously loves watching the Big Bash. So

977
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 8: whenever he ever I go home, he's always got on

978
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 8: the Telly as well. So, yeah, it's a great competition

979
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 8: and it'd be unbelievable playing it one day.

980
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 7: But yeah, whether that happens or not, who knows.

981
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Do you find yourself coming back to Australia in those

982
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: UK winters or are you pretty much over in the

983
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: UK year round these days?

984
00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 7: Now, I'm pretty lucky.

985
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 8: I don't think i've I've spent a whole winter in

986
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 8: the UK. Yeah, so I've managed to get back even

987
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 8: during COVID. I had to do the two week quarantine

988
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 8: in the hotel even to get back for a little while.

989
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm pretty lucky. I get to come back

990
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 7: and see my family and yeah, joy enjoy the summer over.

991
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 8: Here as opposed to the cold winter in the indoor

992
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 8: school in England.

993
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: That's amazing, endless summers. That's the perfect situation, isn't it.

994
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: And then you just said to me before we started

995
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: recording that your family is going to be coming over

996
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: as well to see the T twenty World Cup.

997
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: That's fantastic.

998
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Have you sorted out some blue kits for them to

999
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: wear in the stands.

1000
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've got some old plane kit that sort of

1001
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 8: passed on Dad. Were pretty pretty keen on that they

1002
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 8: kept hounding me about it before I left, I was

1003
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 8: to come over here. So nah, they're all decked out

1004
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 8: and I think my dad was saying he was going

1005
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 8: to wear it everywhere he went.

1006
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 7: So that that could be interesting.

1007
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 8: But anyway, Nah, it's great around getting around the team,

1008
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 8: and they've always supported me, so it's awesome having them

1009
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 8: over to be part of it as well.

1010
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: And have you done the official ICC headshots and all

1011
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: those sorts of things. Is really starting to feel real

1012
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: now that you're part of this tournament.

1013
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, we had our media day two days ago, so yeah,

1014
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 8: I was a lot of probably new to a lot

1015
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 8: of the boys, and obviously a bit different to some

1016
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 8: of the stuff I've done previously as well.

1017
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 7: But yeah, no, it's starting to ramp up now.

1018
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 8: Say it's getting close to crunch time, so I think

1019
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 8: everyone's really excited. I think it's probably we're pretty primed

1020
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 8: ready to go. I think to put our best foot forward.

1021
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 8: So I think the sooner it rolls around, the better

1022
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 8: for us.

1023
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 2: Fantastic.

1024
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: Well, thanks your time, good luck in this tournament, and yeah,

1025
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: make sure you knock off the English.

1026
00:49:49,160 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 4: Great Thanks mate up