1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: The Christian Connor Show podcast. 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: On the show, the voice of the Matildas has been 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: producer Caitlin. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: How are you feeling this morning? 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: My heart is still in a bit of pain from 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 3: last night, I suppose. Yeah, it was a tough loss, 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 3: but and you can see it in the girl's eyes. 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: You know, that meant the world to them, to get 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: to the semi final even but for them, their dream 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: is to win the pinnacle, right, which is the World Cup. 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 3: And I think you could see the heart breaking them 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 3: and that's why my heart was breaking a bit. But 13 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 3: I think for us, you know, it was so much 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: more then that. And I don't as much as my 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: heart's my heart's breaking, I'm also so proud of them 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: and they've done so much more for us and the world. 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, once they kind of look 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 3: back after the heartbreak that they've gotten, when they wake 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: up this morning and in a couple of weeks and 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: they look back and they see like what actual impact 21 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: they had, you know, they'll see it through better eyes, 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: I think. And so as much as it's breaking right now, 23 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: I'm also still so proud and to have experienced that journey, 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: to have lived in this history has been awesome. 25 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: Oh that's so well said. 26 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: When there were changel of players yesterday and even Sam 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: Curl it absolutely devastated. 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they were. They were broken because that's their dream. 29 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: They pushed through the barriers their whole life, like these 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: girls played soccer in Australia, which is not our number 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: one sport, not even our second or third. They pushed 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: through and kept prevailing, and then they turned Australia into 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: this country that just loved soccer as much as England does, 34 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: as much as the like the Euros do. And that's crazy, 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: like that had never happened. I remember playing as a 36 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 3: kid and like it was the odd sport to play, 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: like I was the only girl in a boys team, 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: because as if there was going to be enough girls 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: to play soccer in a small town that I was from. 40 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, once they take it all in and they 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: look back and all these girls start playing soccer next 42 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: year and all these little kids start playing soccer next year, 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 3: they'll really understand the impact that they've created in this country. 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: And to be honest, around the world, like the world 45 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 3: has been watching this World Cup and seen sold out stadiums, 46 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: They've sold out merch like that is unfathomable. Before this 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: had even started, these girls wouldn't even have thought that 48 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: this would have happened. 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 2: You're right, if you just said something, you'll make the semifinals, Yeah, 50 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: that would have gone. There's no way, especially Curb being injured. 51 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: But if you told them that, they would have had 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: sold out games, sold out merch and the whole country. 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: People that don't even care about soccer. My partner doesn't 54 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 3: care about soccer, Patsy doesn't care about soccer. But we 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 3: all know about it. We're all heartbroken today, we're all 56 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: sad today. That's incredible. And I think you know, as 57 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: much as they're breaking right now, that it doesn't matter 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: because because when they look back, this is the bigger picture, right, 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: this is the bigger and more important thing for them. 60 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: It's it's their dream, but they've changed the dreams for 61 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: a whole country. And I just I kept thinking about 62 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: that as I was a falling asleep last night because 63 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: I was sad, and I just thought, you know, what 64 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: they've done is so much more impactful, and I'm just 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: proud of them, and it makes me emotional, and it 66 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 3: makes them emotional, you know. Steph Catley talked after the 67 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: game and she said, like, I'm getting emotional because you're 68 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 3: telling me all of these things that I don't think 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: that it went through their heads properly. I don't think 70 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: that they could have taken that in because they was 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: so focused on the game. And so yeah, once they 72 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: step back and look at it, they should be very 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: very proud. 74 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: Oh and also, do you know what your tears it's 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: a it is still history making. It was never about 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: whether you're not when you get to the final. And 77 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: then even if you get to win the World Cup final, 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: it's not about that you will win, you willn't lose. 79 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: And it also sport doesn't give you, like life, what 80 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: you deserve. It's brutal. Sometimes a three to one score 81 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: is actually brutal. And Matilda deserve so much more. And 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: you know what, all the teams in the tournament, I 83 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: think everyone, even the other other players in other countries, 84 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: were saying, do you know Matildas deserve to win the 85 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: World Cup? 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: They do? They did. 87 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: They had so much compassion, so much kindness, and you 88 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: saw the devastating reaction from the players. 89 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: They felt like they'd let you down. 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: Yeah they did, but they changed that what that tournament 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: meant like at first it was about winning, right or 92 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 3: just winning a game, and then it turned into changing 93 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: history for little girls, which is huge. 94 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, boys and girls around the country and are so 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: women so much more powerful? 96 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: You know in Australia and all over the country. You 97 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: used to seeing men elevated every weekend doing sporting great things. 98 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: To see it front page news, other teams, other TV 99 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 2: shows having to rearrange what they're doing because the women 100 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: are doing it so well and so dramatically. Most popular 101 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: thing on TV in the last ten years was Saturday 102 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: Night Go desays what it was last night. But the 103 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: bigger thing is what will actually change now, what. 104 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: It will do. 105 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they made Australia come alive for four weeks, right, 106 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: and like as an adult, you know, you remember that 107 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: feeling at Christmas when you're a kid and it was 108 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: so exciting. That is the first time as an adult 109 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: I've felt like that feeling of this is so exciting, 110 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: like just imagine what tomorrow will bring. And so yeah, 111 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: they've just absolutely nailed it. And I'm still so proud. 112 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 3: I've still got my scarf, still has powers, I promise. 113 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: But yeah, play soccer kids, it's the best sport ever, 114 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: well said. 115 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. Look Christian Connell Show podcast. 116 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: Jack and I is in the studio, still chatting to Caitlin, 117 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: who's making so much sense more than Jack and I 118 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: are about what's actually really happened here and did the 119 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: Matilda's really lose? I almost wish the girls that Matildas 120 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 2: could actually hear what you just said five minutes ago. 121 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know. And I'm watching the replays 122 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: back and people have asked me because I've been talking 123 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: about it so much on my own personal socials. You know, 124 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: how was I feeling and or if like I was 125 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: angry at the red or if I was annoyed that 126 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: someone missed something and. 127 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: I Smiley wasn't she Oh she was? 128 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, she was been hopeless. But let's not even worry 129 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: about that. 130 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, should come from the Barbie movement script android. 131 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just I was so proud of them, 132 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 3: regardless like whether they won or not. And I posted 133 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 3: something yesterday that was just my perspective on this whole 134 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 3: journey for the girls and why it meant so much 135 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: for me personally, and that was because I did play 136 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: when I was younger. I started when I was probably 137 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 3: eight or nine, and I remember going to my first 138 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: ever training session and it was all boys, and I 139 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: remember being split off into groups and I went into 140 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: this group of boys and I remember them thinking like, oh, 141 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: we've got this girl on our side, like this is crap. 142 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: And I remember just being great at it because my 143 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 3: brothers I played against, you know, growing up, they were 144 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: always older. And I walked in there and I just 145 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 3: smashed it and I had so much fun. But it 146 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 3: was still scary, like I have anything in common with boys. 147 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: You know, I was a little girl, so I was 148 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: just like, you know, you're still in that stage of oh, 149 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: boys have cooties kind of vibe, so. 150 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: You feel like you didn't belong to playing. 151 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: I really did it, no, and I had to just 152 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: like and I'm a confident person, and even in that moment, 153 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: I didn't feel confident, but I just put on this 154 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: brave face and I loved soccer. I played it for many, 155 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: many years. I stopped for a couple of years because 156 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: we didn't have I wasn't allowed to play after a 157 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: certain age because I was a female. 158 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,239 Speaker 1: But then we were not that long ago. 159 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: No, this so I'm thirty one, so this would have 160 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 3: been twenty years ago or you know, nineteen years ago whatever, 161 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: And yeah, I remember taking a couple of years off 162 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 3: and then we were lucky enough to have made a 163 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: women's team to play in the area. And we played 164 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: for like five years, us girls, and we were really great. 165 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: But then it got to a point where you know, 166 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: you had to choose, like were you gonna continue playing 167 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: sport and having to pay to play or did you 168 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 3: go to UNI and start, you know, thinking about a career. 169 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: And so I decided to go to you in get 170 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: a career because there just wasn't future in sport for 171 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: women for me at the time. And that's why I'm 172 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: proud of these girls, because these girls have pushed their 173 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: whole way through having to pay to play, get paid 174 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: hardly anything, you know, push their bodies to extremes, get 175 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: injured like Hailey Razo broke her back, and pushed through 176 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 3: still to play. And so at the end of last night, 177 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: even though we did lose, I was still so proud 178 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 3: of the journey that they'd been on and what they'd 179 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: created for this country, a history making run, and what 180 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: they did for soccer in Australia is yet it will 181 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: be seen next year and will be seen in the 182 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 3: coming years as little girls know that they can take 183 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: on the world and do what they want to do. 184 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm super proud and even though'm a heartaches, 185 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: I'm still super proud. 186 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 187 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 2: And also it's not over now. A legacy is something 188 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: that should be kept alive and carries on. 189 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: This this will live with us forever. These moments that 190 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 3: we've had in the last four weeks will live forever. 191 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: That's Sam Amazon, that's Sam Kerr, gooh last night. Everyone 192 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: will remember that forever and a. 193 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: It should be the only thing they play, not the result. 194 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: It's like, that's a world class goal right there. 195 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 3: Absolutely, So yeah, I'm just so proud of those girls, 196 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 3: and they've changed my story for all the little girls 197 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: that are out there today. They don't have to walk 198 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: into a soccer team full of boys. They don't have 199 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 3: to think that they have to go to UNI and 200 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 3: get a career. They can be a sports star and 201 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: they have women to look up to, and I'm so 202 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: glad that those girls are the women that they look 203 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: up to. They deserve to be heroes and they deserve 204 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: to be icons of the sport, and I'm so proud 205 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 3: of them. 206 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: Well, so thank you. 207 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: So it's not really a loss, is it, Not at all, 208 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: not at all, and we've still you know, we're still 209 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: going to get third place, so it's all good. 210 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: Well. Christian Connell's Show podcast