1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Jersey and Amanda jam Nation. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: She is the author behind some of the biggest books 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: in the world, including Big Little Lies and Nine Perfect Strangers. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: Well Now, author Leanne Moriarty is back with her latest novel, 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: It looks like another corker here one moment, Leonne. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, whoa. 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: How do you come up with your ideas? Do you 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: mind your friend's lives and experiences? How do you find 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: these storylines? 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: I do mine experiences for sure, And I'm a terrible evesdropper. 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: And if I'm yeah, if I'm with a friend and 12 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: they start telling me a story, then I will say, 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: can I use that please? But this one the idea 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: came to me on a plane and I was looking 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: at the passengers around me, and the cheerful thought came 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: into my head that everybody on this plane will one 17 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: day die. And then I was looking at all the 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: people and I was, you know, thinking well this, will 19 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: you be the person who makes it to one hundred, 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: which is what we all want, or will you be 21 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: the person who unexpectedly dies early? And then I was thinking, 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: one day that information will be available. One day we 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: will know exactly how each of us, including myself, sure 24 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: will have died in the future. 25 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 3: So the character in this cherry, she takes it upon herself. 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: I'm not giving much. But at the start of the book, 27 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: they're going from Hobart to city and for some reason 28 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: she gets up and starts predicting when people will die, 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 3: how they will die, and what age they will die. 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: And I got to tell you, when I read the 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: premise on the back of this book, I thought, I 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 3: don't know if I want to read this, because I've 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: often thought the same issue. Want to play yes, and 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: you think I don't want to know that stuff? 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: No? No, And it's interesting. When I've told some people 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: the premise, you see a sort of involuntary flash of 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: of horror. Yes, because people don't want to they don't 38 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: want to think about it. But yeah, I couldn't. I 39 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: couldn't stop thinking about it. What if somebody did start 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: telling you, would you believe it? Would you? How would 41 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: you change your your actions? And of course, for there 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: to be a story, her predictions have to start coming 43 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: true in the in the follow But it's it's not miserable. 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 3: No, No, well, yeah, it's, but it is I'm not 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: up to where anyone's died. 46 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: Yet, Okay, Yeah, so you just spoiler. 47 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 3: Did not if you get up on the plane and 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: say we're all going to die and you're the. 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: Pilot, nobody does on the plane. 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: With all of it, With so many of your books, 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: they've been turned into incredible adaptations, does that change how 52 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: you write them? I mean, you're still writing in Australian 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: vernacular and around Australian locations. But do you have people 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: in your head when you're writing now? 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: No, I really don't, So I don't start passing in 56 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: my mind as I'm writing, and I think it would 57 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: change the way I write if I started to think 58 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: about that too much. So for example, in Nine Perfect Strangers, 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: they're at a health retreat and there's a silent meditation 60 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: for days on end. So there are pages and pages 61 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: without dialogue and we're just in people's heads. So I 62 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: don't want to change that. And also something I do 63 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: a lot of is my characters are thinking one thing 64 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: but saying something else, and so I just leave that 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: as a problem for whoever's it somebody else. 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: And you've truly nailed Australian suburban life. You're very good 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: at that. 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I continue all my books will continue to 69 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: be set in Australia. 70 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: And big Little Lies work so well in America though 71 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 3: as far as from an American perspective. 72 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, still from a and it was a seaside down. Yeah, 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: I think a lot of us living suburban lives. I 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: would get letters from people on the other side of 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: the world saying, I can't believe that school yard politics 76 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: are exactly the same as Sydney as they are here 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: in Mexico City or where. 78 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 3: That's the world. 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 2: So I did fall in love with the real estate 80 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: in Big Little Eyes. 81 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: I know it wasn't it gorgeous? Yeah? Yeah? 82 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 3: And in this you know how I imagine would be 83 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 3: great as Jerry is it me could be because said, 84 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 3: what's it about? It's a great crazy middle aged woman 85 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: walking dispensing psychology. This role. 86 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: Get told that. 87 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 3: I was thinking Denise Scott. 88 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: Oh, yes, yeah, I thought she could be good. Yeah, 89 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, there you go. 90 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you must be going to dinner parties now 91 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: because people will tell you that all the time. I'll 92 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: tell you you should write a book about me. I 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: should write a book about what. 94 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: Happened, because we got a lot of people to say, 95 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: don't say this on the radio. 96 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, people say don't. But more often than not they 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: do say I've got a story for you, and you 98 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: can you can use this. 99 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: Have you heard anything that's good. 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mostly when they say I've got a story for yeah, 101 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: not that good. 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: I'll keep my notes away. The book is fantastic. Here 103 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: one moment. It's this Thursday at all good bookstores. That's 104 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: when you can get it. Leanne Mourray Artie, thank you 105 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: so much for joining us. 106 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: No my pleasure. Thank you