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Speaker 1: Podcasting.

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Speaker 2: Now in isolation, we are finding that, you know, the

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Speaker 2: small talk runs out pretty fast. We're in isolation together, Will,

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Speaker 2: so the talk does get a bit deep. So we're

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Speaker 2: doing this cool questions Will and Woods something I've always

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Speaker 2: wanted to ask.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, words, the small the small talk or

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Speaker 1: the chat between people does tend to dry out while

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Speaker 1: we're in isolation, So the bigger topics start to come out,

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Speaker 1: and you and I like to have this out on

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Speaker 1: air with each other. There's a whole bunch of questions

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Speaker 1: that before we always wanted to ask each.

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Speaker 2: Other but never really had the chance to, and now

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Speaker 2: we do because we've got time and and we've run

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Speaker 2: out out the stuff story about. Okay, so I've got

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Speaker 2: a question for you here, Will, because you went first yesterday. Okay,

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Speaker 2: here we go. What are you most afraid of? Excluding

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Speaker 2: animals and specific people myself? You are you're scared of yourself?

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Speaker 2: Can you explain that a bit more?

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Speaker 1: Um. First of all, good question. It's probably your first

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Speaker 1: good question that we've had on this in this section.

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Speaker 2: The deep question of will I be the Godfather? That

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Speaker 2: was that was great stuff on the.

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Speaker 1: Podcast to ask me whether I actually thought that Pete

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Speaker 1: Helly was a good option for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which you actually didn't answer, which is awkward.

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Speaker 1: But let's get back. What am I actually scared of? Yeah, myself.

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Speaker 1: I am really really scared of the capacity that I

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Speaker 1: have to judge myself and belittle myself. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think that there's any form of physical pain or torture

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Speaker 1: that exists in the known world that would come close

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Speaker 1: to the agony that I can find myself in based

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Speaker 1: on how hard I can beun myself. Yeah, it really

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Speaker 1: scares me sometimes, whiz yeah, yeah, which is actually why

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Speaker 1: I meditate a lot, because that really helped me pick

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Speaker 1: up on it really really quickly. And it can be

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a silent thing. You don't really

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Speaker 1: realize it's happening. But for people that are very used

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Speaker 1: to judging themselves, they would know this. It's a really

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Speaker 1: bit it's a bit of a silent killer. You don't

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Speaker 1: even realize it's happening. And then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: you're like, why I feel so tiny at the moment,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not worth I'm not worth the heea that

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Speaker 1: I'm breathing, a.

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Speaker 2: Little voice in your head telling you.

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Speaker 1: It starts off as really little and then literally everything

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Speaker 1: you do is just like that was awful. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe you tried to do that? How bad are you?

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Speaker 1: YadA YadA yadda, and I really put you in a box.

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Speaker 2: Have you had it today? Have you had is it

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Speaker 2: anything you've done today? Yes? Pull the KT and then

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Speaker 2: we get together for our show. We pitch certain ideas

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Speaker 2: for the show and whatever, was there any idea or

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Speaker 2: was any process of any stage of today where you

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Speaker 2: had yourself judging yourself?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, loads, loads and loads and loads.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I think that the trick is that, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: with anybody that's got any sort of mental demon or

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Speaker 1: anything like that, the first step is actually just acknowledging

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Speaker 1: that that's a part of your psyche, Like that's just

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Speaker 1: going to keep me, that's always going to be there.

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Speaker 1: Because there's an old there's an old meditation poster that

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Speaker 1: I've got a photo of which says, don't try and

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Speaker 1: don't try and fight the waves, learn how to meditate

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Speaker 1: and come and serve them. Oh I like that, And

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Speaker 1: that's I think that's really got to What it is

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Speaker 1: is like you just got to realize, like I'm always

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Speaker 1: going to judge myself. I just don't believe the narrative

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Speaker 1: as much anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, okay, that's really good advice. Yeah, now

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Speaker 2: a good answer, Thank you answer.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much.

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Speaker 2: Deep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was nice and deep. Maybe we can say

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Speaker 1: this for next time. But my question for you for

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Speaker 1: next time. Oh, you can give it a crack if

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Speaker 1: you want. Is there a part of you that thinks

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Speaker 1: the coronavirus has been good for the world? Sure?

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Speaker 2: I Actually I read an Instagram post that Woody Harrelson

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Speaker 2: put which was all the positive benefits of coronavirus, which

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Speaker 2: is all about like businesses shutting down and the economy

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Speaker 2: slowing down, et cetera. And that's so much focus on

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Speaker 2: money and things like pollution and stuff. But doing it

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Speaker 2: up next, let me let me let me do it

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Speaker 2: up there. Something I'm going to look up Woody Harelson's tweet.

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Speaker 1: Great idea podcasting.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you just asked me the pretty hairy question, will

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Speaker 2: You said, do you think there are any positives to

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Speaker 2: come from COVID nineteen? And you were trying to back

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Speaker 2: me into a corner and make me uncomfortable, But I've

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Speaker 2: bounced back pretty well here because luckily, Yeah, yet not yet, luckily.

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Speaker 2: I actually, before I go on, actually I just want

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Speaker 2: to say that obviously COVID nineteen is absolutely shocking and

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Speaker 2: totally devastating. People losing their jobs, people losing their lives,

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Speaker 2: really terrible. But I think that's the one. No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: just get all of course, not of course, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: but I think you just try and look positively here

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Speaker 2: and look at it through a positive lens of your

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Speaker 2: career in politics. For me, no, I actually came across

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Speaker 2: an Instagram post from Woody Harrelson, the American actor that's

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Speaker 2: last week, okay, and he listed a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: positives out. Air pollution has cleared up less people on

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Speaker 2: the roads. Evictions have been banned, so people aren't getting

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Speaker 2: evicted anymore. There were larmy peop not to pay their rent.

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Speaker 2: The stock market is no longer an indicator of public wellness.

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Speaker 2: Water shutoffs have been suspended. That might be an American one,

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Speaker 2: apologies if it is. Political prisoners have been freed and

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Speaker 2: jails have been emptied. The debt system has been halted.

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Speaker 2: People are starting to care more about their elders, the vulnerable,

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Speaker 2: and frontline workers. I think about the love for nurses

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Speaker 2: now and caring about your elders and stuff. People are

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Speaker 2: taking responsibility to keep our communities safe and healthy. They

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Speaker 2: are taking steps there. And here's one that we're definitely

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Speaker 2: all doing. Everyone is slowing down, paying attention to their bodies,

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Speaker 2: and finding intentional ways to connect with our loved ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I agree, that's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: Though. Well, look, I think all in all, he's made

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Speaker 1: some really nice points. It's a very that's very much

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Speaker 1: from a first world perspective. I mean, it's Woody Harrelson.

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Speaker 1: He's sitting on hundreds of millions of dollars, probably, let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, getting starned most of the time. Time He's

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Speaker 1: spoken before about the fact that he's had an addiction

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Speaker 1: to that. Okay, so well yep. But what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: is that I think I don't. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: bit rich for him to be, you know, posting that going, going,

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Speaker 1: look how good this is for the planet guys, when

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Speaker 1: I've just got a whole bunch of money and I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting in my house and there's lots of people that

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Speaker 1: have lost their jobs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, can I change my answer?

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