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Speaker 1: Here at two Good Sports, we would like to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: the traditional owners of the land on which we record

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Speaker 1: this podcast.

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Speaker 2: The Wererungerie people. This land was never seated, always was,

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Speaker 2: always will be, dear listeners.

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Speaker 1: As you well know, Jemmy and I often talk on

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Speaker 1: this podcast about things created in a lab specifically for us,

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Speaker 1: for our entertainment, for our enjoyment, for our passions. So

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Speaker 1: with that being said, I thought that I would give

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Speaker 1: the recipe of how to create the perfect rugby league

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Speaker 1: player in a lab because it does pertain to our

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Speaker 1: guest today. Number One, you've got to have a very

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Speaker 1: significant portion of diligence. You've got to have at least

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Speaker 1: forty eight percent work rate. You need to have a

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Speaker 1: little smattering of discipline in there, but we still want

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Speaker 1: the mongrel has to be a team man. Nothing surer.

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Speaker 1: Must be a team man. Even when your favorite people

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Speaker 1: play on other teams. You still need to be able

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Speaker 1: to put whoever you're playing with first iron breaks, surprising

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Speaker 1: ones or even not that surprising ones. They've got to

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Speaker 1: be in there, got to be faster than you ever

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Speaker 1: thought possible. And ideally, and I say this with love,

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Speaker 1: they are a Queenslander But.

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Speaker 3: With that being said.

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Speaker 1: A man who did not famously represent Queensland, but did

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Speaker 1: cause many, many nightmares for myself and my folk.

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Speaker 3: It's friend of the pod, Ryan Hoffman. Welcome once again

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Speaker 3: to Tigger Spots.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: There's been some intros in my time. I think last

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Speaker 5: time I was on it was a hell of an intro.

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Speaker 5: But I think you've done yourself. I will question the

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Speaker 5: diligence because I was late coming here today, So that's one.

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Speaker 5: That's one cross.

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Speaker 1: Along with the let me cross it off, let me

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Speaker 1: cross it off the recipe. Explain yourself. You could win

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Speaker 1: it back, but why were you late?

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Speaker 2: Because it's impossible to find it's impossible to find.

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Speaker 5: This licener refused to ask for directions because I'm a bloke.

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Speaker 2: To fair, I also refuse to ask for directions. That's

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Speaker 2: because I'm stubborn.

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Speaker 6: But anyway, we'll start with how the hell are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm fantastic, Thank you. I'm I feel like I'm spinning

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Speaker 5: plates at the moment. I got a few things on

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Speaker 6: Take us through the plates.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm helping out the Melbourne Storm with their under

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Speaker 5: nineteens team, so helping helping coach Matt Duffy being involved

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Speaker 5: with their SG ball team. The boys are going quite well,

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Speaker 5: six from six at the moment, sitting second on the table.

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Speaker 5: I've got my day job, as I've said before, so

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Speaker 5: trying to sell equipment.

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Speaker 4: I've got my own podcast.

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Speaker 5: I'm not trying to jump in on you guys, but

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Speaker 5: I've got my own podcast called The Boardroom where we

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Speaker 5: dissect the big issues of rugby league. I'm gonna help

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Speaker 5: coach my daughter's netball team, sorry, basketball team, and I'm

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Speaker 5: wasn't doing enough, I'm helping out the Melbourne Demons in

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Speaker 5: a leadership space. So they're the plates I'm currently spinning.

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Speaker 1: I'm adding plates spinning to the list because that is

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Speaker 1: very lab oriented for Gelmy and I. Our brains are

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Speaker 1: always just spinning plates. So once again, knew that you

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Speaker 1: were perfect for us to talk to. I do want

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Speaker 1: to dive, I mean in so many, so many ways.

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Speaker 1: But I'm already going off the list that we had

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Speaker 1: You lose a superstar, it's one of those doors that

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Speaker 6: What is this magic?

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Speaker 4: It's quite unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: And let's not forget they're replaced probably the greatest rugby

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Speaker 5: it's very system based. I think the system that they

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Speaker 5: They recruit people. They recruit people first and football or second,

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Speaker 5: there is a production line because that's always been the

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Speaker 5: knock on the Storm. Why aren't they producing their own players?

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Speaker 5: I think there have been five or six in the

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Speaker 1: They were very marone just so long as they keep

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Speaker 5: so the production line is increasing and hopefully we'll see

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Speaker 6: You mentioned the recruitment of people and not players.

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Speaker 2: There's been so many and some of them we don't

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Speaker 2: Craig Bellamy does go about bringing people into the club.

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Speaker 2: There's things about if you don't say thank you to

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Speaker 2: the waiter, if you catch up for coffee. That's a

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Speaker 2: know what these are true and what was your experience?

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Speaker 5: football director meet up with a recruit for a coffee

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Speaker 5: and it's just they just won't want to know them

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Speaker 5: that they've seen, the clips, they've seen the footage.

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Speaker 4: Recruiters have told them this, that and the other, but they.

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Speaker 5: Want to know the person because they want to know

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Speaker 5: in with the organization. The biggest thing is eye contact.

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Speaker 5: Are they distracted by their phone? Are they looking on

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Speaker 4: You you do, you please? And thank you?

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Speaker 5: Is you say hello to people when you walk past

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Speaker 6: You can only say to a.

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Speaker 4: Friend exactly exactly, so sheesus the long current forty two. Now,

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Speaker 4: I was eighteen when I signed the Storm.

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Speaker 2: No, you're a freshellow of your eight anyway.

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Speaker 4: So I didn't really go through that initial test.

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Speaker 5: But all the players that are at the club now

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Speaker 5: we like to think that the culture of the of Craig,

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Speaker 5: what he's done there the Melbourne Storm is so ingrained,

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Speaker 3: What of that culture are you taking to this new

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Speaker 5: Well, that's that's a great point because when not when

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Speaker 5: it was like a defensive sort of contact sort of thing.

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Speaker 5: But when I was at the Storm, we had Nick Maxwell,

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Speaker 5: Joel Sellwoods has filled that role as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 5: So there's there's been a lot of examples because Melbourne

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Speaker 5: do is taking my experiences from some of the great

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Speaker 5: That's what you get paid to do. If to be

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Speaker 4: Just trying to get that consistency.

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Speaker 5: And he's done a really good job Stephen King and

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Speaker 5: all his coaches in the preseason and it was great

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Speaker 2: It and starting the season off with the win is

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Speaker 2: like Max Corn, I think that no one has been

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Speaker 2: particularly in times of turmoil and he I actually saw

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Speaker 2: what his challenge was for the year, and he said,

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Speaker 2: I'm just here to beat Father time. I mean you've

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Speaker 2: he's a seven time All Australian. He doesn't look like

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Speaker 2: he's slowing down so.

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Speaker 4: Exact try to cut you off a bit, but that's

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Speaker 5: His best performance is probably what he saw on the weekend,

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Speaker 5: and his worst performance isn't much lower than that. And

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Speaker 5: when they have consistency like that, that is a great leader.

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Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated, not to be all Brene Brown about

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Speaker 1: this with like how to leave, but like in terms

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Speaker 1: of your own experience, Ryan, when it's when you've been

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Speaker 1: on the pitch, Like, is there a moment in your

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Speaker 1: career that stands out that you think you witnessed the

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Speaker 5: I experienced it many occasions, and it was Cameron Smith.

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Speaker 5: I never saw that blow get flustered about anything. I

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Speaker 4: It was reeswaldch first in Melbourne.

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Speaker 4: Look, it's a tough game. You got to train tough

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Speaker 4: So to get what's best, because that's what coaching is.

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Speaker 5: He's changed, and I think he realized because he's a

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Speaker 3: Wow wow wow Okay now.

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Speaker 2: And that they're they're doing a road trip to Melbourne

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Speaker 3: I would like Victoria.

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Speaker 1: I would like it known that the last game of

444
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Speaker 1: Rugby League of my Broncos other than the Grand Final

445
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Speaker 1: that I went to watch was that game against Melbourne

446
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Speaker 1: at Amy Park where I took my parents flew down

447
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Speaker 1: for it so that we could all watch it as

448
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Speaker 1: a family. I've not watched a game of football like

449
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 1: at a game with my dad in like years, and

450
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Speaker 1: I was like, this is going to be amazing. We

451
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Speaker 1: were in at the Storm bloody suite because we were

452
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Speaker 1: there as guests of the Storm.

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Speaker 3: I'm dressed like this, looking like a loser. However, we

454
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Speaker 3: did lose in that game.

455
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Speaker 1: That was the game when Adam Reynolds got shot. Fucking

456
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 1: everyone got shot.

457
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Speaker 6: In that one play.

458
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Speaker 3: Everyone died. Everyone died, and everyone died.

459
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Speaker 2: Then and there's when she talks about the Broncos.

460
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Speaker 6: She goes full Queenslander. And then they went to the.

461
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Speaker 1: Pil and then and then and then and then we

462
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Speaker 1: never lost again. We never lost again after that game.

463
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Speaker 1: That was when we won. And then do you know what,

464
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Speaker 1: I don't want to blame the World Club Challenge, but

465
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Speaker 1: I'm going to why have we gone overseas and not

466
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 1: played in Vegas but instead played in London for this game?

467
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, and now we've not and now we've

468
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Speaker 1: not won again, but we were I've got I've got

469
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Speaker 1: worked up.

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Speaker 3: I've got worked up.

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Speaker 4: I can, I can I give you a history lesson?

472
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Speaker 4: You're ready.

473
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Speaker 5: So I've played in a couple of those World Club Challenges.

474
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Speaker 5: Last one I played was in twenty thirteen. We won

475
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Speaker 5: the Grand Fill on twenty twelve, played the World Club

476
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 5: Challenge beat Leeds and then we came back and went

477
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Speaker 5: on a nine game winning streak.

478
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Speaker 4: So just just chopping a bit of.

479
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Speaker 3: History, hang on, do you think it can be done?

480
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Speaker 4: That's weird. It can be.

481
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Speaker 5: Look in terms of the Bronco, I don't take form

482
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Speaker 5: into account that started year to at least round five.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, at least round five.

484
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Speaker 4: This is good.

485
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, so get a pass mark because no one's going

486
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Speaker 5: to give a damn.

487
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Speaker 6: These were motherless last didn't they?

488
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Speaker 3: Look?

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Speaker 1: I actually have like my actual notes here, Ryan, this

490
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Speaker 1: would be good. I've got it's good, It's going to

491
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Speaker 1: be really good. But do you You brought up the Panthers, Jeremy.

492
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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to bring him up, but you brought

493
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Speaker 1: them up, and so that's opened the gateway now because Ryan,

494
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Speaker 1: what I need you to tell me is how we

495
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Speaker 1: stop Nathan Cleary. Like I know we're just talking about

496
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Speaker 1: individual players, but of what I've seen from him again

497
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Speaker 1: this season, unfortunately, he's.

498
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Speaker 3: Still that good and I need him to be stoppable.

499
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Speaker 5: Okay, so okay, fair enough, how long you got How

500
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Speaker 5: do we stop him? Well, don't give him the ball

501
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 5: inside your half. So if you I'm gonna get really technically,

502
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry. But if you're complete, if you're completely set

503
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 5: to six and forcing Penworth to come out of their

504
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 5: own thirty yeah, fifteen, twenty times a game, he is

505
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Speaker 5: getting less opportunity to be able to put pressure on you.

506
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 5: So it comes more down to what you're doing, and yes,

507
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Speaker 5: yes you in particular.

508
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Speaker 4: What you're doing.

509
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Speaker 5: You need to make sure you're completing your says, you're

510
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 5: getting to the end of your kick and you're forcing

511
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Speaker 5: them to come out of their own end consistently.

512
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Speaker 2: So too many teams worry about him as opposed to

513
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Speaker 2: worrying about the circumstances that would she exactly.

514
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Speaker 5: He's most effective inside your forty. So if you don't

515
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Speaker 5: let him get there, that's the best way to limit him.

516
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Speaker 5: You're not going to stop him.

517
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Speaker 2: Georgie wants to not let him get there by doing

518
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Speaker 2: something to his car on the way into the ground different.

519
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Speaker 1: I would never, however, I also speaking about getting inside forty.

520
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Speaker 1: This is again a completely objective, third party question with

521
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Speaker 1: absolutely no personal interest in the matter. When Harry Grant

522
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Speaker 1: is at dummy half and he's like literally on the

523
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Speaker 1: try line, what are the defensive teams doing when he

524
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: scores every single time that every single time he gets there,

525
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: it's happened in the last two weeks, And I'm like, oh, go,

526
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Speaker 1: like we're now up against the dragons, and he is

527
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: in at dummy half for two minutes before the line,

528
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Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe tackle him.

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Speaker 3: Guys like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

530
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: Of the program?

531
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Speaker 5: I think it's the worst kept seek in rugby league

532
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 5: that Harry Grant likes to score from dummy.

533
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Speaker 3: Harp's Cameron Smith might run like, what do you mean?

534
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

535
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's look and that's what's called coach killers. So

536
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 5: that's what makes the coach what I actually either be

537
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 5: killed or killer someone else, because I'm sure they would

538
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 5: have been mentioned that nause him throughout the week.

539
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Speaker 4: In the end, it's a concentration thing. It's a concentration thing.

540
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 5: With a teams Paramatta when he scored from thirty meters out,

541
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 5: it was a concentration thing. It was the a defenders

542
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 5: not jamming in and forcing him to go the long

543
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 5: way around, And for the Dragons it was a lack

544
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Speaker 5: of communication and a lack of effort on the line.

545
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, speaking of coaching, Gillers, does any part of you

546
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Speaker 2: ever want to A lot of this, A lot of

547
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Speaker 2: this adds up to a senior coach that the resume

548
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Speaker 2: it all makes sense.

549
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Speaker 5: Can I I'll answer your question with a question, do

550
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Speaker 5: you want to put your lovelihood in the hands a

551
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 5: bunch of twenty year olds?

552
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Speaker 4: I certainly don't. That's so fair. Wow.

553
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: And more the point when you see Michael Voss roll

554
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 2: up to a press conference going who would want to

555
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: do this?

556
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Speaker 6: Who would actually want to do this?

557
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Speaker 1: I did want to grab your thoughts Ryan on the

558
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Speaker 1: adaptability of it all.

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Speaker 3: So you talked so.

560
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Speaker 1: Eloquently about how you know Bellamy is now able, has

561
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Speaker 1: to has had to adapt so that he can relate

562
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Speaker 1: and connect to the younger players. All of that and

563
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Speaker 1: you know, just moving with the times.

564
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Speaker 3: Things that can.

565
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Speaker 1: Also help that are reality checks and I think it

566
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Speaker 1: would be remissive me not to at least ask you.

567
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Speaker 3: Do you know how Ellie Katoa is right now?

568
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: People on this podcast know how much we have been

569
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: worried about his story and just his recovery, and we

570
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Speaker 1: are wishing him well. We will hopefully talk to him

571
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Speaker 1: at some point throughout this season.

572
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Speaker 3: How is he?

573
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Speaker 4: Ellie's great? Ellie really is?

574
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Speaker 2: So.

575
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Speaker 5: I've seen Ellie a few times. He's training, He's running

576
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: and doing some ballwork drills, obviously staying out of contact.

577
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: He's done his trainer's course. So he's going to be

578
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 5: doing some stuff with the reserve grade team, the Melbourne

579
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 5: Storm New South Wales Cup team, so the blue shirt trainer,

580
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 5: so sending out messages.

581
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Speaker 4: So he is actively involved.

582
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Speaker 5: I think it was a very very smart decision from

583
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Speaker 5: the doctors and the club and everyone who helped made

584
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Speaker 5: the decision for Ellie to sit the year out because there's.

585
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Speaker 4: No pressure on him.

586
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Speaker 5: He can just enjoy his recovery because if there was, so,

587
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Speaker 5: I we'll see how he goes in six weeks. There

588
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 5: is a pressure on a play and think am I right?

589
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Speaker 5: Am I not right? This way he can sit down

590
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Speaker 5: for twelve months, Okay, so one hundred percent right. So

591
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Speaker 5: when he does come back to training and come back

592
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Speaker 5: to playing games hopefully, I'm very confident that he will.

593
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 5: There's no sort of baggage. There's no thinking, oh, have

594
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Speaker 5: I come back too soon. I think it was a

595
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Speaker 5: very mature decision by everyone, A very hard decision. God

596
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 5: knows how I would have been without having twelve months

597
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 5: without football. But I think he is in really good space.

598
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Speaker 5: I think he's going to get itchy feet come.

599
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Speaker 4: Sort of July August.

600
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Speaker 5: But I like the fact that decision has been taken

601
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Speaker 5: out of his hands, and I like that he's still

602
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 5: being involved, actively involved.

603
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 4: With the club.

604
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Speaker 2: I think it's an issue that is only going to

605
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Speaker 2: get bigger in sports CT and how it's managed. Is

606
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Speaker 2: it something I've never asked you? This is this something

607
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Speaker 2: that concerns you from your playing career.

608
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a funny one. Everyone asked me all two

609
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 5: worst injuries. I said, well, look I had I had

610
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Speaker 5: my fair share of concussions, and you don't know. I'm

611
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Speaker 5: I'm probably I probably don't do it the right way

612
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Speaker 5: because I'm a bit of head and the sand. I

613
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 5: don't really want to know. I don't know whether that's

614
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 5: the right way to go. My dad played rugby league

615
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 5: for a long time. He had the same thing, a

616
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 5: lot of concussions. I do get worried about him. But yeah,

617
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Speaker 5: it's a really really funny one. Look, I wouldn't change

618
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 5: anything I did in my career or how I played

619
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Speaker 5: or how I dealt with concussions. But it's something I'm

620
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 5: a bit heead in the sand about and I'm trying

621
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Speaker 5: to come to terms personally the best way of going

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Speaker 5: about it.

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Speaker 4: But look, at the moment, I feel fine. I feel great.

624
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Speaker 5: There's no worries at the moment, But look, is it

625
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 5: something I may need to look at possibly?

626
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Speaker 2: Is it You've got kids that I'm playing sport and

627
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 2: you're saying your son plays footy and again with AFL

628
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: that's something.

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Speaker 4: That's and my daughter plays football, yeah.

630
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: And she's a weapon. Is it something that you're concerned

631
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 2: about for them? Because I think it's easy to bury

632
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: your head in the sound when it's about you, but

633
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: when it's about your kids, it hits a bit different.

634
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 5: No, I'm not concerned because I love the way sport

635
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 5: general is heading and heading in that regard. I think

636
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 5: there's a lot more education not only to doctors and

637
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 5: coaches and trainers and everything, but education to the to

638
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 5: the players, and players aren't afraid to to speak up anymore.

639
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 5: And I think that that that culture is filtering down

640
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 5: through through everyone. It's coming down from the a f

641
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 5: L and NRL all the way down to junior leagues,

642
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 5: which where it is if if something happens, just tell

643
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 5: someone that way that they can they can deal with it.

644
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: So it doesn't concern me as as a father with

645
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 5: with my kids. Obviously, I don't want them to have

646
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 5: concussions or anything or anything like that. But I'm confident

647
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 5: in the fact that should something like that happen, they'll

648
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 5: be well looked after and they'll be looked after in

649
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 5: their recovery as per what's what the regulations are, and

650
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 5: these are these are regulations that that have come down,

651
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 5: these are rules have come down, and whatever league you're

652
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 5: playing in about sort of rules, and everyone's very stringent

653
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 5: on it, which is great.

654
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Speaker 1: I think it's I mean, even just the way that

655
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Speaker 1: we're have this conversation now, Ryan, I mean, it's such

656
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: a different converse. I remember watching you when I was

657
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: growing up, and you would have these heavy knocks and

658
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: then you just the expectation, even for me, who wasn't

659
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: necessarily going for your side at the time, would be like, well,

660
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Speaker 1: he's going to come straight back out.

661
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: You know.

662
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: If you remember your teammate Dallas Johnson, he used to

663
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: get absolutely poleax a lot of times, and I would

664
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Speaker 1: be so I'll be like, oh my god, there's no

665
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: way that he can come back out. But then he

666
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: comes back out to this ruptureus like applause and all

667
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: of this, and you want that for them. So even

668
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: just having this conversation and of course the where we

669
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: have now seen in terms of just the treatment plan

670
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: for Elie Katoa after what the awful thing that happened

671
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: to him. I think that that is a growth, that

672
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: is a growth in the game, thank goodness, and it

673
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: is only going to get better. So we can only

674
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: at the moment where we stand with this right now

675
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: is better than that we ever have had in history.

676
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: Not to do one of my favorite things of all time,

677
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: but it is the classic gear shift, Ryan, because I

678
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: do want to This is a pretty big platform.

679
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: We've built a pretty big platform here now.

680
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: And a lot of people listen to this podcast, including

681
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Albanesi.

682
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: He listens all the time. It's Landy's I'm pretty sure listens.

683
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: You mean Anthony Alberanzi, the pitch Invader.

684
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I need to discuss this and because more

685
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 6: the point.

686
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: Sorry sorry, just when the NRL is putting out there

687
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: will be stadium bands. You will be fined five thousand

688
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: dollars and the leader of the country goes da, I'm

689
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: going to walk Outdre.

690
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: It was worth it, he said. He he's asked about

691
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: it afterward. I think it was Billy. I think Billy

692
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: was like, hey, there's a fine, and he's just like

693
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: it's worth it.

694
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 2: Would you see one bloke get tackled by security? There

695
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: was one guy that got picked out at the Tone

696
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Tire Stadium, But to be fair like there were quotes

697
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: Alec Johnson saying I enjoyed it for about a minute

698
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: and then I thought I can't breathe. This is really overwhelming.

699
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 2: Get me out of here now. Granted, I'm never going

700
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: to be in a situation where tens of thousands of

701
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: people hopefully run at me to celebrate, like I wouldn't

702
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: want it. It brings me mass anxiety the thought of

703
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: that many people. Are you about the charge on? And

704
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: as a player, would you feel safe? Yeah?

705
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: I would. I would.

706
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: Look I'm just talking, I'm about it, I'm about it.

707
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 6: It's look at the scenes.

708
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I was like, I was so just like

709
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: my heart.

710
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 2: When I George, can you now imagine not being able

711
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: to get out well they're all grabbing at well.

712
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: I could because if I was just thinking that, my

713
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: head just won't imagine if it was Reese Welsh and

714
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: I got into praise, I'll carry you out, I'll protect you.

715
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: You probably guess that picking him up like like a

716
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 5: baby and just kicking people.

717
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 4: Out the way.

718
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 3: I thank you for realizing that.

719
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 6: No, have you ever been in a situation where they've

720
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 6: charged the field?

721
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 5: No, not not like that. That look back in the

722
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 5: back in the eighties when melb Man played. After every game,

723
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: everyone would just run on the run on the field.

724
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 5: But I think it was I think it was great scenes.

725
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: Look in hindsight, security might have been quicker to put

726
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 5: a ring around, but look, no one was hurt, there

727
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: was no drama, there was no problem.

728
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: I think it was a great thing for.

729
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 2: Really, is Wayne Bennett looking so dryly when he was

730
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: asking the press conference? They're like, what do you think

731
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: of it? Wayne?

732
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 6: And he goes, what part?

733
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: And he goes, I don't know all of it and

734
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: he goes, I reckon it was a bit disruptive.

735
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: I love that it was pretty disruptive.

736
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 4: He's just that's Wayne. They were going to get any

737
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 4: other end.

738
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 6: Be able to be that grumpy and get away with it.

739
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 3: Potentially.

740
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: Wayne Bennett also listens to this podcast. But what I

741
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: would love Ryan, he gave us a game plan, I

742
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: believe on this podcast once before about how to defeat

743
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: the Blues. But I now would like a game plan

744
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: for how you and dare I say, even Gelmy and

745
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: I get to Vegas? How can you get to Vegas

746
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: to cover opening round?

747
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: We are ready?

748
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 4: I went, I went the first year. I went the

749
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: first year, and it was outstanding. We need to go,

750
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: you have to, We need to go, you have to.

751
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: And I think you need a man on the ground,

752
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: which which I which I have no drums, you need

753
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 5: a tour guide.

754
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 2: I know there's any pitch invasions. I would feel safer

755
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: with present as a general rule.

756
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, great, okay, but yeah it's a it's a great experience, ladies.

757
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: And I definitely I don't know if ABC's can be

758
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: pitching in channel tens a chance, but a r n

759
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: if you can hear ABC.

760
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: ABC took me the first year. We were the first

761
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 4: ABC Grandstand.

762
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 6: That is a good spend of my taxpayer dollars. I

763
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 6: am down for.

764
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: Not notice we haven't been the last two years.

765
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, we're fighting to get this.

766
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 5: And to be honest, I was hanging onto a rope

767
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 5: out the back of the plane and we're sleeping in

768
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 5: a ten out the front of the stadium.

769
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 4: So it wasn't like Mando A Bay in first class

770
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 4: day you worry it was?

771
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: It was it was taxpayer funded, so we had the

772
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 5: bottom of the boat and the cattle had a one time.

773
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, I can see it for us all this

774
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: is something that's topical for both codes. What do you

775
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: think of the staggered start where some teams play some don't.

776
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 4: I like.

777
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 5: I like the Vegas start because it's it's such a unique,

778
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 5: unique sort of thing.

779
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: I don't. I'm not necessarily a fan of the a

780
00:33:59,720 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: f L.

781
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 5: I think I think that's that's pretty ordinary, to be

782
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: quite honest, because you built up so much for round

783
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: one and it's sort of.

784
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: And the latter is irrelevant for so long? Where are

785
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 2: we and what does this feel like?

786
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 5: The NFL gets back to it round round two basically,

787
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 5: so everyone's back on parody round two. But but yeah, look,

788
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of the of the a f

789
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 5: L one and it's not just being a rugby league man,

790
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 5: and that because I'm an AFL.

791
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 4: Man too, So yeah, I do. I do have a

792
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 4: seat at the table, that's it.

793
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 5: But and especially I know there was a game in

794
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 5: Melbourne this year between the Pies and Saints.

795
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 2: But you felt weird.

796
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 5: I used to love it when they used to have

797
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 5: the was it Tigers and Carlton? Yes, first that was

798
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 5: brilliant pack.

799
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it will change. They can't keep it going.

800
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: It's so silly, it's absolutely so silly. But also that

801
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: when that does happen, Ryan, I will be giving you

802
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: full credit. They've made this decision. Ryan Hoffin was there

803
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: for half a second. It's happened that he is the catalyst.

804
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: Full full credit to the boys.

805
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 6: Credit to the boys. Be a great name for a book.

806
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: If you've got a lot of dishes spinning, and we

807
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: know that you're busy, so we better round out. We

808
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: do have a rematch to the Grand Final coming this weekend.

809
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: What are you expecting look from this match up?

810
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so everyone sort of says, sort of goes to hell,

811
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 5: watch your motivation getting beaten. Look, And I think Craig

812
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 5: sent it quite succinctly in the press conference last week. Well,

813
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 5: they're not going to give us a Premiership if we

814
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: beat them, so it's it's irrelevant. So this is this

815
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 5: is the twenty twenty sixteen Look. I think Morcoan McGuire

816
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 5: has had this game circled in in his calendar.

817
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're playing the preseason.

818
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 3: We haven't played the first two weeks.

819
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: Do you think, oh, they'll be there?

820
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 5: And there's been a chat I read the paper this morning,

821
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 5: bit of chat between Stefan who to a kimanu and

822
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 5: his comments he made and the comments are Broncos made after,

823
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 5: So there's going to be some spice. I'm looking forward

824
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 5: to the challenge between steph and and Big Pain. So look,

825
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 5: I think there's going to be a different Brisbane Broncos

826
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 5: that have rolled out the first two weeks. So yeah,

827
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 5: I'm expect fireworks. And look, Reese, while she's a big

828
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 5: game player, this is the game.

829
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 3: This is Do you think you'll be able to catch again?

830
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 4: Uh, they're going to test him. I know, I know

831
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: there's there's there's going.

832
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 5: To be an air raid and and he'll be hearing

833
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 5: footsteps because the boys be coming down.

834
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: But look, I wouldn't ride him off just yet.

835
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: It's braver you to mention Pain because George is now

836
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: glassy eyed, because I'm not allowed to mention this because

837
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,479
Speaker 2: she needs a full I just got a message when

838
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: the announcement happened, when she said I'm not taking questions

839
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: at this time.

840
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 6: Taking question because.

841
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: Be a pitch invader.

842
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: He's also a thief as a thief because he's still paying.

843
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: He's stopped paying from.

844
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: Me, albow the tea leaf. There you go, there you go.

845
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 4: I know what is? What is?

846
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: Do you think do you think Storm wins in the Yeah?

847
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm very confident with the Storm because they're they're.

848
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 4: Informed and they're playing well.

849
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 5: But it's it's not going to be a lackluster performance

850
00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 5: from the Broncos from what we've seen the first.

851
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 1: I just said, if there's a moment in the game,

852
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: and there will be where a friend of the pod,

853
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: Harry Grant steps in at dummy half sent to me

854
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: to away from the try line Froncos try line and

855
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: manages to get over, just check on me.

856
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 3: Just check on it.

857
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 4: I think I need a check on match.

858
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 5: Think if he scores some dummy, if you need to

859
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: check on match because if you don't think he's saying

860
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 5: all week, don't let this blake score from dammy if

861
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 5: you give himself.

862
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: But also Harry Grant a Harmione granger, I think is

863
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: what George it led within his intro it's please come

864
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: back on the pop. We love having you.

865
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,479
Speaker 6: Thanks for making the time.

866
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: Pleasure, absolute pleasure. Thank you very much for having me again.

867
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: We'll have to have you back in when the D's

868
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: are on an incredible hot streak and everything's happening. But

869
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: maybe our final question can be what's harder coaching netball

870
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: or footy or was it basketball?

871
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 4: In the end, I believe I.

872
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 5: Didn't coach a netball game a couple of weeks ago.

873
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: Probably probably probably netball netball, because I gotta say, and

874
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: my daughter's taing they're all all lovely girls, but look

875
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 5: the amount of times they either got go to the toilet,

876
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 5: they've got to tie their shoelace, they haven't taken their.

877
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 6: We don't go to the toilets as individuals. There's got

878
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 6: to be two of us.

879
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to do it warm up, and half

880
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 5: a dozen of them of an eight player team, had

881
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 5: were going to go to the Actually I've got to

882
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 5: go to the bathroom all together, hanging over the time

883
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: a shoel I haven't take my earrings out, and I'm like,

884
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: no hurries.

885
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 6: Girls, you don't know whether to go full bellamy.

886
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 4: We're kicking off in five seconds, but please go for it.

887
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: But it was a good experience.

888
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: It was good fun to make you feel better than Ryan.

889
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: Some of the best strategy gameplayed. Chats will be happening

890
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: in those bathrooms because I have.

891
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 5: No doubt, be friends, I have no doubt. Oh wow,

892
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 5: it was an experience.

893
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 4: I tell you. I'm glad I was only interim for

894
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: that one game.

895
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: That was so perfect, That was so perfect. You are

896
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: the goodest sport, Ryan Hoffman. We so love having you

897
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: anytime with us, So thank you so much, Thank you

898
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: very much.

899
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 6: Next time, you'll find it easier to get in here.

900
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 5: I will be able to be able to find away.

901
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 5: It wasn't going to three different buildings, so just follow

902
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: the broncos

903
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: A