WEBVTT - Todd Woodbridge (Part II): “I wanted to be better at Wimbledon than Roland Garros”

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, and welcome to another episode of The Sitdown.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Matt Trolope, a rat an editor for oz open

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<v Speaker 1>dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm viv Christie, managing editor for Australian Tennis magazine.

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<v Speaker 2>And Matt, why are we sitting down with Todd Woodbridge

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<v Speaker 2>for a second time?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if we sat down with Todd a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago for an episode that you can go back

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<v Speaker 1>and find in your feed, but we decided to make

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<v Speaker 1>a special part two focusing on all of Todd's Wimbledon

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<v Speaker 1>achievements and memories and milestones because this was a tournament

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<v Speaker 1>that he dominated at. He's got his greatest historic achievements there.

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<v Speaker 1>With Wimbledon on at the moment, we felt it was

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<v Speaker 1>fitting to bring you this episode. We also chatted to

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<v Speaker 1>him about an amazing piece of Wimbledon history he holds

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<v Speaker 1>he's the last player at a Grand Slam tournament to

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<v Speaker 1>defeat a player in a triple bagel. That's six love,

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<v Speaker 1>six love, six love. Now I will just clarify I

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<v Speaker 1>said in the interview this was the last time that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually happened a few other times in Davis Cup matches,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, this was the last time that happened at

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<v Speaker 1>a Slam and just feels fitting that it was Todd

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<v Speaker 1>that achieved it.

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<v Speaker 2>And like so many Australians, Todd's tennis dreams were sparked

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<v Speaker 2>by watching Wimbledon late at night as a child, which

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<v Speaker 2>is where we pick up this fabulous interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Woodbridge, thank you very much for joining us on

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<v Speaker 1>the Sit Down podcast. I remember you mentioned once that

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<v Speaker 1>you specifically developed a game that would succeed on grass.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope I remember that correct, all full success at

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<v Speaker 1>wimbledem That was my goal, right, So I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to say what inspired that and what did it involved?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that your idea? Was that a coach that did that?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, No, there was inspiration from watching so so I

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<v Speaker 3>used to get up the middle of the night. I

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<v Speaker 3>would go to bed seven eight years of age and

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say to Dad, I'm going to bed, Can you

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<v Speaker 3>wake me at ten o'clock to watch the start eleven

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock And I watched an hour and a half two

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<v Speaker 3>hours and then go back to bed and get up

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<v Speaker 3>and go to school. I mean little taker. Put the

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<v Speaker 3>heater on, sit in front of it and watch them

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<v Speaker 3>come out in white tennis balls, all of that, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was where I wanted to go.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the dream.

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<v Speaker 3>It literally was that whole thing of a dream. And

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<v Speaker 3>to do that, Like I remember getting into the ais

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<v Speaker 3>in Camber and you go, Okay, what have I got

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<v Speaker 3>to do to have this dream?

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<v Speaker 4>Ossie Serve.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a perception of what tennis players were. We

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<v Speaker 3>were good on grass. Clay wasn't necessarily our surface. But

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<v Speaker 3>there are two different mentalities back then because you played

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<v Speaker 3>on bad grass courts, not great grass courts that were

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<v Speaker 3>all right, ball bounce sideways, it'd kick up. Go watch

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<v Speaker 3>YouTube and see the old women and stuff. The ball's

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<v Speaker 3>going here and here, and you needed to get forward

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<v Speaker 3>and you had to be aggressive. That was our mindset

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<v Speaker 3>and the clay courters in Europe a different mindset. They

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<v Speaker 3>were rallied, they were moonballers. They'd sit there and they'd

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<v Speaker 3>lob it back at you, they'd frustrate you. Well, games

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<v Speaker 3>evolved differently from that now. But I made a decision

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to be better at Wimbledon than at Roland

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<v Speaker 3>Garross very early on.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of all those events and all those highlights, is

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<v Speaker 5>there one in particular that sticks out to you?

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<v Speaker 3>The most winning Wimbledon for the first time ninety three.

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<v Speaker 3>The year before, we'd made Semis and lost to grab

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<v Speaker 3>Brandenburg in five sets. The fifth set we had five

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<v Speaker 3>rain delays and we lost at six to four. So

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<v Speaker 3>you're coming out every two games trying to serve and

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<v Speaker 3>keep momentum. I think we were serving second and they

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<v Speaker 3>went on and lost an epic match to mac and

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<v Speaker 3>Roe Stick in the final that year, and so all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden, my mind, you're looking, we can do this.

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<v Speaker 3>Mac and Roe Stick, huge names, you've got, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we're close. And then the next year winning and there's

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<v Speaker 3>the dream and then the dream I spoke about a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of times in these types of situations. The dream

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<v Speaker 3>was you jump up and down, you roll around, you

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<v Speaker 3>wave at everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that moment, right, and then you go to the

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<v Speaker 4>side of the court and you sit down and you go,

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<v Speaker 4>is that it can't be it?

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<v Speaker 3>There's got to be more, There's got to be more euphoria,

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<v Speaker 3>and you kind of actually then have to work out

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<v Speaker 3>how you're going to do it again. I actually think

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<v Speaker 3>winning at the second time and four fifth was even

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<v Speaker 3>more rewarding. Each time you really understood what it took

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<v Speaker 3>about about doing that. But the one thing about playing

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<v Speaker 3>at Womland which is weird is that never ever did

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<v Speaker 3>it feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>You would offending anything. It was just always turning up.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to win it again? Or can we win it?

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<v Speaker 3>And the psychology of sport and how we all act

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<v Speaker 3>as humans is incredible because I didn't do that anywhere

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<v Speaker 3>else have a good result. Oh god, how are we

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<v Speaker 3>going to keep our ranking?

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<v Speaker 4>Singles?

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<v Speaker 3>In particular, I've got all these points to defend and

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<v Speaker 3>it's such a heavy burden. Never did that happen when

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<v Speaker 3>I walked in at Wimbledon to play.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so curious.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we're a bunch of nutters. Well it worked

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<v Speaker 3>for you, yes, not do it all year round.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know there was something about there. Obviously you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't five times in a row, So yeah, that's no.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I only know if I reflect upon my career,

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<v Speaker 3>which I can do now because I'm older, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>something like ten finals from let's say the first one

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<v Speaker 3>in ninety three are retired in ninety five, made ten

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<v Speaker 3>finals and one nine of them and lost one eight

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<v Speaker 3>six in the fifth, And I look back, Wow, how

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<v Speaker 3>do we do that and it's a week because it's

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<v Speaker 3>a joint effort, but also to keep mentally fresh, injury free,

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<v Speaker 3>turning up positive. And that then makes me reflect upon

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<v Speaker 3>Nadal and a singles player doing what he did, and

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<v Speaker 3>even a Roger at Wimbledon and Novac extraordinary feats of

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<v Speaker 3>athleticism and human mentality.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, we speak about your double success a lot, obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>but we have to mention nineteen ninety seven Wimbledon, your

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<v Speaker 5>run to the Semis obviously wins over people.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Pat Rafter.

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<v Speaker 5>Is there like something you took away or something in particular,

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<v Speaker 5>I should say you took away from that career best

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<v Speaker 5>run in singles.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was an interesting time. So on grass I

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<v Speaker 4>would always play well.

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<v Speaker 3>The people that I would lose to would be the biggest,

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<v Speaker 3>serving better grass quarters than me, bigger athletes, stronger, and

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<v Speaker 3>that used to annoy me a lot. And I had

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<v Speaker 3>a good draw in a sense that I played really

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<v Speaker 3>well once in big moments. You know, I got Pat

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<v Speaker 3>on court three, good court for me to play him on,

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<v Speaker 3>dodgy court, right little slopes. I knew where the ball

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<v Speaker 3>used to pivot off a little bit, so he couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>get the clean return it gave me opportunities like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Doesn't happen so much anymore. Every court's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's a new court three now, isn't it's at Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a billiard table, so the ball doesn't move, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>do the same things.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got lucky with the court drawer that day.

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<v Speaker 3>Two his later, I played him on court two, which

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<v Speaker 3>is the billiard table court, and every ball he could make,

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<v Speaker 3>and it made it really tough. But the thing that

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<v Speaker 3>happened to me there was that I always believed and

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<v Speaker 3>knew that I could do it, but I always felt

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<v Speaker 3>a little.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little car with a one stroke engine taken on the

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<v Speaker 3>six cylinders, and you just can't beat them after a

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<v Speaker 3>certain pier. They're too big, too strong. And I almost

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<v Speaker 3>felt at the end of that year that how am

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<v Speaker 3>I going to get better?

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<v Speaker 4>How can I come back and redo this?

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<v Speaker 3>And that was that's a hard thing to start mentally

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about. You have to make major change, and so

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<v Speaker 3>maintaining singles, rankings and things then became hard, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And you look at me now in this game, modern game,

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<v Speaker 3>very difficult. I'm a skills player. I was a tactician

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<v Speaker 3>and a skills player. I wasn't a fast athlete with

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<v Speaker 3>masses of power. I had to do things differently, and

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<v Speaker 3>grass gave me the chance to be able to do

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<v Speaker 3>that most of the time. So the people that got me,

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<v Speaker 3>say at Wimbledon were Sam Press a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd got him once, but Todd Martin and Wimbledon finalist

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh ed Berg a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all hard.

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<v Speaker 3>All guys would go through, you know, through the draw,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, poor me, boohoo.

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<v Speaker 4>But was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>But but that that was something I was very proud of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've got some quirky stats as part of your career. Okay, good,

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<v Speaker 1>good quirk Well Vic found a really good one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, Sam Press.

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<v Speaker 5>So that it was the first time he played at Wimbledon.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the first time you played each other. Did you

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<v Speaker 5>have any initial you know, I guess reactions to seeing

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<v Speaker 5>him and thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, this guy is going to be win the US Open.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that year he lost to him in the ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven semi but you actually, yeah, in his first ever

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<v Speaker 1>match of Wimbledon was against anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>We played on court nine second row, Tony Picard, who

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<v Speaker 3>was Stephan Edberg's coach, big deal. You know, Stephant was

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<v Speaker 3>the waiting opponent. He was out watching, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of like we were the next era coming

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<v Speaker 3>along of you know, maybe's and he hadn't done anything

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<v Speaker 3>at that point yet. But we all when I say

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<v Speaker 3>want a major, it was good. So it was a

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<v Speaker 3>tough draw. I go out played just solid grass court

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<v Speaker 3>tennis and get a win and then have to play

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<v Speaker 3>Stephan Edberg on the center court in my next round

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<v Speaker 3>get a set. So I'm, you know, a monngst good

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<v Speaker 3>contenders at that point. But Sam, when I won the

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<v Speaker 3>US Open later that year, I mean, his trajectory judgment sure,

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<v Speaker 3>and mine kind of. But it's still pretty special to

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<v Speaker 3>have had at least one win against him there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think that's what's cool about it is

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<v Speaker 1>the first time he ever played at wimbled in a tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>He wore going to rule he had to go through

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<v Speaker 1>you first, and he didn't make it in that particular.

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<v Speaker 5>Match, and you'll always have that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if he remembers.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing, I'm pretty sure this is right.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the last player to record a triple Bagel, Is

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<v Speaker 1>that right, I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember the match?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, very much so in the I think of Wimbledon

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>And final round of qualifying against you and.

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<v Speaker 4>Love, love and love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's and it's extremely rare, just in men's tennis history.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>How did I do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Again?

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<v Speaker 3>It was a real grass court, true fast. It had

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<v Speaker 3>been a little hot period. We're playing at Roehampton. I

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<v Speaker 3>was still playing really good tennis, obviously, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>in draws, so i'm he's there and I get through.

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<v Speaker 4>Ordagrin had had a couple of really good wins.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd actually been in a section that had taken out

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<v Speaker 3>Dick Norman, the Belgium huge serving who's really he was

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<v Speaker 3>troublesome for me. He actually beat me in the main

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<v Speaker 3>drawer one year where he'd beaten Edinburg Cash and then

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<v Speaker 3>I lost to him, and then he went on I

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<v Speaker 3>think lost to Becker in the next round, so he

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<v Speaker 3>could do massive damage. So I was glad to see

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<v Speaker 3>him out. But Joan had this issue in that he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't really a grass court. He had a good run

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<v Speaker 3>he got there. It was not a bad draw for me,

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<v Speaker 3>but he had the wrong shoes. He had regular shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't have the grass court with the dimple then

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of get the extra grip. And the courts

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<v Speaker 3>had got kind of burnt out, slippery and dry, and

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<v Speaker 3>I could get him quickly into a piece, and he

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<v Speaker 3>just kept sliding like a clay court and had no

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<v Speaker 3>way to come back, and he lost all confidence, all

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<v Speaker 3>grip on the court. And I was ruthless, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I it's just ice skating. And he wasn't a cervolley

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<v Speaker 4>at any kind.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's staying back on a court that I just

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<v Speaker 3>need to make a really short knife, a little backhand

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<v Speaker 3>in there, and I could get in and rush him.

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<v Speaker 3>And I played pretty flawless obviously to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>maintain that for that long. And he and I he

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<v Speaker 3>coaches now and every now and again he sees me

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<v Speaker 3>and he looks at me, goes. But the funny thing

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<v Speaker 3>was to that story too, is that later in that year,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was later in that year, I go

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<v Speaker 3>to Stockholm to play the indoor tournament and I go

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<v Speaker 3>to practice with him, and we should we play, said,

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<v Speaker 3>and I go up for love, and he eventually wins

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<v Speaker 3>a game. And there were people standing watching oh RH

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<v Speaker 3>for him when he finally got a game, because everybody

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<v Speaker 3>knew the story and he and he takes it beautifully. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>it'd be hard to do today, that's for sure. But

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<v Speaker 3>again that's my point about surfaces. It can happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it used to happen to really good fast cat players

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<v Speaker 3>on clay. I remember Terry Champion might have had his

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<v Speaker 3>moment against Sergiebighera on clay where he wasn't great fast

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<v Speaker 3>cat player, but you know it could happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Very interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>I love that story.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to have the correct equipment and you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of years and competed against some of the greatest,

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<v Speaker 1>like we've talked about Sampress and Agacy and all those

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<v Speaker 1>other people's. Ed Burg was another one who were the

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<v Speaker 1>who was the best or the toughest player you faced.

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<v Speaker 3>In your Again that's them matchups. But my worst nightmare

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<v Speaker 3>of a matchup was Andre Agacy. Okay, yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like everything I did just sat in his pocket.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, well, here we go again. It's all about

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<v Speaker 3>those matchups. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Do we talk a lot in this one about Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Sampras playing Pete wasn't as scary as playing an Andre

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<v Speaker 3>for me because I knew I could hang on to Pete,

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<v Speaker 3>I might get to tybreak, and maybe I can luck

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<v Speaker 3>out and win a tie break. And that was where

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<v Speaker 3>he played too, by the way he would just sort

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<v Speaker 3>of hit it around, then build pressure and try to

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<v Speaker 3>break you. But he knew he'd never lose you serve,

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<v Speaker 3>so he had confidence to play that way. But Agacy

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<v Speaker 3>was such a clean ball striker and if you gave

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<v Speaker 3>him anything to hit, he had you in trouble. And

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<v Speaker 3>plus he was such a brilliant returner. So in that

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<v Speaker 3>in that space, he was great. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>the others of the era that I played, I came

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<v Speaker 3>up when Ivan Landel was number one, played him a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of times as number one in the world, and

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<v Speaker 3>he changed our game from everyone worked hard, but he

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<v Speaker 3>brought a different work ethic to it. And he was

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<v Speaker 3>a ferocious and intimidating competitor. And when I was a

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<v Speaker 3>teenager coming along, the locker room was an intimidating place.

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<v Speaker 3>There were those guys did not make you feel welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>You know Connors, Yvonne, you get to know them, but

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<v Speaker 3>at the beginning it's intimidating. I don't think it's the

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<v Speaker 3>same now. I think I think Federer changed that a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. Rap of their manner was different to how

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<v Speaker 3>ones before used to hold hold court, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 3>and how they went about it. It's very different, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>In some ways, I love all of the opportunity we

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<v Speaker 3>have to get content, microphones, under seats, everything everywhere. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually changed the dynamic of the player to play

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship because there was banter, there was ribbing. When

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<v Speaker 3>you went round the net post, people would talk to you,

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<v Speaker 3>they'd say, they'd swear at you under your breath. The

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<v Speaker 3>umpires didn't hear it, didn't ignore it. But that cannot

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<v Speaker 3>happen anymore. So there's this whole there's a cleanness to

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<v Speaker 3>it that is antized.

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<v Speaker 4>We're not getting away with anything.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And I would love to see a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more of that, because it becomes more of this and this,

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<v Speaker 3>of like that psychology, and that was definitely there. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>as I tell the story about Pat Cash, I qualified

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<v Speaker 3>for Wimbledon for the first time in main draw seventeen

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<v Speaker 3>years of age. Unbelieve I get to play the defending champion.

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<v Speaker 3>There's two locker rooms I'm in the number two locker room.

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<v Speaker 3>I get brought up to the champions locker room to

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<v Speaker 3>walk on the Santa Court.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't even say oh to me.

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<v Speaker 3>I sent him a I seen him a note for

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<v Speaker 3>his sixtieth and I reminded him of that and why

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<v Speaker 3>I am this young Aussie? My bad cash center cord

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<v Speaker 3>at wimbled unreal.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't even say hello.

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<v Speaker 3>And I still remember that vividly, like, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be a bit different. And I think we

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<v Speaker 3>played the match. He shook my hand and that was that.

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<v Speaker 3>Because he was a Wimbledon champion. I was just some

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<v Speaker 3>you know kid, scruffy kid coming along there was That

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<v Speaker 3>was how it was like until you really proved yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so interesting. That is so interesting because that was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly if it was a Nussy to a Nussie. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you'd imagine it's like Matt, nice to meet your good

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<v Speaker 1>luck today and beat the living.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I just love that.

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<v Speaker 5>You reminded him all these years later.

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<v Speaker 4>Never let him forget.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he know, no, no, no, the he was at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, Todd, this was an absolute pleasure. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us today to chat and yeah, thanks to pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Matt. Isn't it nice to be reminded of how

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<v Speaker 2>much Todd achieved at Wimwooden And it wasn't just a

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<v Speaker 2>different time in terms of how players actually plagued tennis,

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<v Speaker 2>but I guess how they also interacted.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's all water under the bridge now because we

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<v Speaker 1>heard just the other night Todd and Pat in the

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<v Speaker 1>commentary booth together side by side, which was fantastic to hear.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be back next week with another episode of The

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