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Speaker 1: Now we know that the No More campaign's been working

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Speaker 1: across the Northern Territory to end domestic and family violence

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Speaker 1: for almost twenty years by engaging with men and communities

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Speaker 1: to create lasting change. Now, historically the focus has been

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Speaker 1: on sporting clubs, but it is now expanding to get business,

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Speaker 1: community groups and service providers to take the stand. Now

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Speaker 1: joining me in the studio is Catholic Care NT's violence

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Speaker 1: Prevention Manager Norell Gostra. Good morning to you, Norell. Lovely

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Speaker 1: to have you in the studio, and also Community Champion

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Speaker 1: NRLNT general manager Tony.

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Speaker 2: Crow, Good morning, good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: Lovely to have you both in the studio and to

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Speaker 1: hear more about the campaign. Now, I guess for anybody

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Speaker 1: out there listening, Norell, first off, tell us a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about No More for anybody who's maybe not

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Speaker 1: familiar with it.

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Speaker 3: Sure, I feel like if you've lived in the territory

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Speaker 3: for more than three months, you know you have heard

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Speaker 3: of No More and our founder Charlie King. So, Charlie

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Speaker 3: created No More, as you said, around twenty years ago,

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Speaker 3: and it was working with men in remote communities to

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Speaker 3: he was talking to them about what the issues were

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Speaker 3: and they stood up and said no more to violence.

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Speaker 3: And then he went to another community and those men

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Speaker 3: there said all the men should link up to say

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Speaker 3: no more. Charlie was driving back from there and was

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Speaker 3: thinking about his sport involvement and heavily involved in football,

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Speaker 3: and said he just went on, we might be able

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Speaker 3: say no more.

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Speaker 4: And that's where it came from.

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Speaker 3: So we've been doing that for twenty years and we

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Speaker 3: feel like we've done a great job bringing domestic violence

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Speaker 3: out from behind closed doors, getting people talking about it.

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Speaker 3: But no more's more than that, and it's about also

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Speaker 3: we do a lot of education, teaching people what domestic

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Speaker 3: family violence is and trying to create community led action.

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Speaker 4: It's just which is what's brought us here today to

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Speaker 4: talk about the Stand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so tell us a little bit more about about

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Speaker 1: the Stand and you know, to anybody out there listening

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Speaker 1: that's thinking, oh, is this something I can get involved in.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going to be really easy to get involved.

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Speaker 3: So the Stand is our new initiative around trying to

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Speaker 3: get ninety organizations to create domestic violence action plans, and

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Speaker 3: we've chosen in ninety in ninety days to honor the

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Speaker 3: more than ninety women that have died in the Northern

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Speaker 3: Territory due to domestic and family violence. So we're calling.

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Speaker 3: We've historically had sporting groups like like NRL, DRL involved

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Speaker 3: and we think that it just should be more than

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Speaker 3: that every organization could and should do a domestic violence

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Speaker 3: action plan.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is so important that it's you know, it

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Speaker 1: is something that's out of the shadows that we do

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Speaker 1: all talk about and have those conversations Tony. For you

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Speaker 1: leading the NRL here in the Northern Territory as a

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Speaker 1: general manager, I mean, how important is it do you

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Speaker 1: you think for organizations like NRL and T to be

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Speaker 1: involved with No More and indeed the stand.

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Speaker 2: I think it's very important, Cadien. We've enjoyed a very

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Speaker 2: healthy long term relationship with No More and have enjoyed

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Speaker 2: our close working relationship. But we are a peak sporting

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Speaker 2: body for community sport and our key objectives are to

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Speaker 2: add value to community through rugby league. We're just like

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Speaker 2: we've got the greatest game for all through rugby league.

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Speaker 1: No arguments with me fins.

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Speaker 2: Up there quickly, but most importantly, as I said, it's

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Speaker 2: education and awareness. And we've enjoyed our time and what

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Speaker 2: we've spoken a lot, We've created a lot of awareness

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Speaker 2: and we're all going to take a responsibility and hopefully

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Speaker 1: As I said, I know, a key part of the

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Speaker 4: Do you want me to go first on that? Yes,

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Speaker 4: well you can go.

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 2: I had a you know, once again as part of

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Speaker 2: what do we do with it? And we continue to

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Speaker 2: push messages game day after game day, but it's almost

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Speaker 2: We've got it. There ready when we need to. So

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Speaker 2: I think from that's where we're at. But now it's

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Speaker 3: All.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Norell, I mean, how do people sort of

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Really, it's really easy to get involved.

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Speaker 3: You can definitely reach out to us at the at

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Speaker 3: the No More team or go to our website which

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Speaker 3: is the stand dot org dot au for this particular

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Speaker 3: new but creating a domestic violence action plan is whatever

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Speaker 4: However they might want it to look.

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Speaker 3: It could be three actions written on a piece of

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Speaker 3: fully fledged policy. And as Tony was saying, like they

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Speaker 3: it could be something that you include in there about

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Speaker 3: how you respond if someone in your organization is either

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Speaker 3: sure that people understand that they can get ten days Egger.

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Speaker 4: Domestic violence leaf.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because a lot of people don't know that it's

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Speaker 3: Then there's the visual awareness, like having a no more

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Speaker 3: And then so there's a lot of, as Tony said,

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Speaker 1: And I guess so often you see the issue of

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Speaker 1: I think that very often you know people are suffering

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think you touched on there's sometimes that

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Speaker 3: People wouldn't even realize that it is actually what we

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Speaker 1: And then Tony, I mean when you when you think

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Speaker 1: how important do you think it is that that staff,

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Speaker 1: that people within your organization know that it you know,

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Speaker 1: there is there is a safe place to go in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think and I don't like particularly the word boss,

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Speaker 2: but leader, And I think most importantly we do all

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Speaker 2: need to talk more often, be open and express ourselves.

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Speaker 2: And you know, sometimes I think most importantly, show some

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Speaker 2: think that's what I keep talking about. Sport brings people together.

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Speaker 2: When we come together, it's important that we open up

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, where can people go if they're listening this

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Speaker 1: morning and they want to find out more.

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Speaker 3: So to our website which is no more dot org

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Speaker 3: dot au or the stand dot org dot au.

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Speaker 4: And I'm probably throwing there as well.

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Speaker 3: If anybody is actually impacted listening impacted by domestic and

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Speaker 3: family violence, to call one eight hundred Respect, which is

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Speaker 3: a really great twenty four hour support line.

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Speaker 4: It's really easy to get involved.

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Speaker 3: We're launching on Thursday, the seventh of August, and we're

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Speaker 3: going hard for ninety days to try to get ninety

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Speaker 4: We're doing all right so far.

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Speaker 3: We've been promoting it a little bit and we've got

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Speaker 1: I reckon you will Yeah, I reckon you will well.

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Speaker 1: Catholic Anti Violence Prevention Manager Norell Gostray, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for your time and community Champion. Nrl NT General

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Speaker 1: Manager Tony Crow, thank you for your time. Wonderful to

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Speaker 1: have you both in the studio