1 00:00:10,204 --> 00:00:13,484 Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts here, more gold one on one point 2 00:00:13,524 --> 00:00:15,204 Speaker 1: seven podcasts. 3 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:21,924 Speaker 2: Playlists and listen live on the free iHeart app. It's 4 00:00:22,124 --> 00:00:49,924 Speaker 2: choosy and unlan funny. It's cosy, cutting on the cutting 5 00:00:49,964 --> 00:00:51,404 Speaker 2: room floor today. What have we got? 6 00:00:52,164 --> 00:00:56,124 Speaker 1: We all know? The album cover for Nirvana's classic album 7 00:00:56,244 --> 00:00:58,444 Speaker 1: Nevermind Yep from Memory. What's on it? 8 00:00:58,724 --> 00:01:01,204 Speaker 2: A little baby chasing the dollar in a swimming pool. 9 00:01:01,244 --> 00:01:03,604 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, little nudy baby, Little nudy baby. The 10 00:01:03,644 --> 00:01:06,764 Speaker 1: man who was that nudy baby his name is Spencer Eldon. 11 00:01:07,003 --> 00:01:09,844 Speaker 1: He was four months old at the time. He's swimming 12 00:01:09,884 --> 00:01:13,203 Speaker 1: naked underwater in nineteen ninety one. It's been a very famous, 13 00:01:13,244 --> 00:01:16,044 Speaker 1: as you say, album cover. He has sued the rock 14 00:01:16,084 --> 00:01:19,164 Speaker 1: band Now a couple of times and sued the photographer. 15 00:01:19,604 --> 00:01:22,444 Speaker 1: He has said, and this started in twenty twenty one 16 00:01:22,444 --> 00:01:26,084 Speaker 1: in a lawsuit that his identity and name were forever 17 00:01:26,203 --> 00:01:30,164 Speaker 1: tied to the commercial sexual exploitation that he experienced as 18 00:01:30,203 --> 00:01:34,724 Speaker 1: a minor, which has been distributed and sold worldwide. This 19 00:01:34,884 --> 00:01:38,084 Speaker 1: was dismissed in twenty twenty two because he had submitted 20 00:01:38,124 --> 00:01:41,283 Speaker 1: it after a ten year limit for filing a civil case, 21 00:01:42,164 --> 00:01:44,964 Speaker 1: but he has brought the case again, an appeals court 22 00:01:45,004 --> 00:01:47,363 Speaker 1: overturned that decision, allowing him to refile. 23 00:01:47,564 --> 00:01:49,164 Speaker 2: Didn't he have a reenactment of it? 24 00:01:49,204 --> 00:01:49,364 Speaker 3: All? 25 00:01:49,404 --> 00:01:51,244 Speaker 2: That wasn't there a reenactment? 26 00:01:51,684 --> 00:01:55,884 Speaker 1: Was twenty I remember seeing a picture of him sort 27 00:01:55,924 --> 00:01:57,884 Speaker 1: of paying homage to it and saying, this is me 28 00:01:57,964 --> 00:01:58,684 Speaker 1: kind of ariston. 29 00:01:58,764 --> 00:02:00,924 Speaker 3: I said that was the twentieth anniversary of it, and 30 00:02:00,964 --> 00:02:02,564 Speaker 3: his parents at the time. I don't think they paid 31 00:02:02,564 --> 00:02:03,884 Speaker 3: a lot of money, and I don't think there was 32 00:02:03,884 --> 00:02:05,764 Speaker 3: a residual thing that they got out of it. 33 00:02:05,804 --> 00:02:07,844 Speaker 1: That was the deal that was done at the time. 34 00:02:09,244 --> 00:02:12,964 Speaker 1: He has once again brought this case forward, but the 35 00:02:13,084 --> 00:02:16,524 Speaker 1: judge has now said beyond the fact that he was naked, 36 00:02:16,884 --> 00:02:19,764 Speaker 1: nothing quote came close to bringing the image within the 37 00:02:19,803 --> 00:02:23,884 Speaker 1: ambit of the child pornography statute. He said the image 38 00:02:24,204 --> 00:02:27,244 Speaker 1: was akin to a family photo of a child bathing, 39 00:02:27,603 --> 00:02:30,923 Speaker 1: and it's plainly insufficient to support a finding of child pornography. 40 00:02:31,324 --> 00:02:34,804 Speaker 1: This is what the judge wrote. Nudity must be coupled 41 00:02:34,803 --> 00:02:38,244 Speaker 1: with other circumstances that make the vision depiction lissivius or 42 00:02:38,284 --> 00:02:42,444 Speaker 1: sexually provocative. The judge also cited factors including the presence 43 00:02:42,603 --> 00:02:45,644 Speaker 1: of mister Elden's parents at the photo shoot, the fact 44 00:02:45,684 --> 00:02:48,404 Speaker 1: that photographer was a friend, the fact that he had 45 00:02:48,404 --> 00:02:52,564 Speaker 1: previously embraced and financially benefited from being featured on the 46 00:02:52,603 --> 00:02:53,324 Speaker 1: album cover. 47 00:02:53,564 --> 00:02:55,083 Speaker 2: Yes, so he's just didn't for the dough. 48 00:02:55,363 --> 00:02:58,724 Speaker 3: He's just bitter because he possibly feels that his image 49 00:02:58,764 --> 00:03:01,604 Speaker 3: is being used. But suck o, mate, No one's going 50 00:03:01,684 --> 00:03:04,884 Speaker 3: to recognize you as the baby. 51 00:03:04,603 --> 00:03:07,004 Speaker 1: Knows you're right. He just wants to get This is 52 00:03:07,004 --> 00:03:10,044 Speaker 1: a very famous album cover. Wasn't No one knew that 53 00:03:10,084 --> 00:03:11,923 Speaker 1: at the time. I'd like more recompense. That's not what 54 00:03:11,923 --> 00:03:12,284 Speaker 1: he's saying. 55 00:03:12,284 --> 00:03:14,324 Speaker 3: If I was his mate, I would say, listen, you 56 00:03:14,363 --> 00:03:17,563 Speaker 3: had your time in the sun basking that and that's 57 00:03:17,564 --> 00:03:19,884 Speaker 3: what it is. Just because you get your picture immortalized 58 00:03:19,884 --> 00:03:21,444 Speaker 3: and it goes global, that's. 59 00:03:21,244 --> 00:03:21,884 Speaker 2: All well and good. 60 00:03:21,923 --> 00:03:24,244 Speaker 3: But you're not gonna unless your parents were savvy enough 61 00:03:24,404 --> 00:03:28,803 Speaker 3: to sign a great deal that got you in perpetuity. 62 00:03:28,084 --> 00:03:29,844 Speaker 2: To make the money. But that's not going to happen. 63 00:03:29,844 --> 00:03:31,324 Speaker 2: You lost, mate, give it up. 64 00:03:31,404 --> 00:03:33,843 Speaker 1: Well. His legal team have told The Rolling Stone that 65 00:03:33,884 --> 00:03:36,684 Speaker 1: they respectfully disagree with this decision and they plan to 66 00:03:36,724 --> 00:03:39,083 Speaker 1: appeal again. This is a quote. As long as the 67 00:03:39,204 --> 00:03:44,444 Speaker 1: entertainment industry prioritizes profits over childhood, privacy, consent, and dignity. 68 00:03:44,924 --> 00:03:47,844 Speaker 1: We will continue up a suit for awareness and accountability. 69 00:03:47,924 --> 00:03:51,284 Speaker 3: What is that struggle pot and cuddle Pie, the gumnut babies, 70 00:03:51,284 --> 00:03:52,084 Speaker 3: they are in the nude. 71 00:03:52,124 --> 00:03:55,363 Speaker 1: They should be covered up. We should draw pants on them. 72 00:03:57,044 --> 00:03:58,844 Speaker 1: Well we're at it, let's put pants on the coat 73 00:03:58,844 --> 00:04:01,444 Speaker 1: of arms. You know that they've all got areas cover 74 00:04:01,484 --> 00:04:01,804 Speaker 1: them up. 75 00:04:02,004 --> 00:04:02,924 Speaker 2: But it's like. 76 00:04:02,884 --> 00:04:05,804 Speaker 3: Mister Red, cover it up because Nirvana with when you 77 00:04:05,844 --> 00:04:08,484 Speaker 3: buy a never mind, now when you see it like 78 00:04:08,524 --> 00:04:11,684 Speaker 3: so on your streaming apps. It's got the cover, but 79 00:04:11,764 --> 00:04:16,404 Speaker 3: he's his penis has been photo shopped out, so he's penisless. 80 00:04:16,924 --> 00:04:17,804 Speaker 1: Maybe that's upsetting. 81 00:04:18,404 --> 00:04:20,604 Speaker 2: They did the Crazy Frog, they took away it's penis. 82 00:04:20,684 --> 00:04:21,644 Speaker 2: Remember Crazy Frog? 83 00:04:21,884 --> 00:04:23,203 Speaker 1: They took away it's a penis. 84 00:04:23,204 --> 00:04:25,124 Speaker 3: That's it because hated No one wanted to see his 85 00:04:25,124 --> 00:04:25,964 Speaker 3: little diggy Daida. 86 00:04:26,164 --> 00:04:32,044 Speaker 1: No more tadpoles for crazy Frog. That film clip was disturbing. 87 00:04:34,324 --> 00:04:40,124 Speaker 1: Ready everybody to some more Georgy Hanna. That is gotting ve. 88 00:04:42,124 --> 00:04:42,404 Speaker 2: Differ. 89 00:04:42,524 --> 00:04:48,204 Speaker 1: Ready, everybody to some more Georgy Hanna has gotten. 90 00:04:49,604 --> 00:04:51,683 Speaker 3: On the cutting room floor today. I see you wearing 91 00:04:51,684 --> 00:04:54,404 Speaker 3: the science lab coat. That can mean only one thing. 92 00:04:54,564 --> 00:04:56,524 Speaker 1: What's that it had done my washing? 93 00:04:56,964 --> 00:04:58,564 Speaker 2: It's science time, you know. 94 00:04:58,644 --> 00:05:01,684 Speaker 1: When I chows, I felt that it was time to 95 00:05:01,764 --> 00:05:05,804 Speaker 1: leave beyond two thousand. When I had a day off 96 00:05:05,804 --> 00:05:07,764 Speaker 1: in Paris, I've been working on the show for about 97 00:05:07,804 --> 00:05:10,404 Speaker 1: six years, traveling a lot, and I looked across the 98 00:05:10,484 --> 00:05:12,244 Speaker 1: road and thought, oh, that looks like a day off. 99 00:05:12,244 --> 00:05:13,724 Speaker 1: But that looks like a nice dress shop. I'll go 100 00:05:13,764 --> 00:05:16,444 Speaker 1: in there. It was medical supplies. I was looking at 101 00:05:16,484 --> 00:05:19,204 Speaker 1: a lab coat. Maybe it's time for Middle East. I 102 00:05:19,204 --> 00:05:23,644 Speaker 1: can't recall you wearing a lab coat many times. Lab coats, hairnets, 103 00:05:24,724 --> 00:05:27,764 Speaker 1: cotton booties, you know, all that kind of stuff. It 104 00:05:27,964 --> 00:05:30,884 Speaker 1: looked like I was on the election campaign trail constantly, 105 00:05:31,284 --> 00:05:33,924 Speaker 1: your hard hats, welding all that kind of stuff. 106 00:05:34,044 --> 00:05:36,204 Speaker 2: You are welding hard hats, but you know. 107 00:05:36,164 --> 00:05:38,404 Speaker 1: That sort of stuff that you see politicians do. I 108 00:05:38,444 --> 00:05:39,964 Speaker 1: didn't have to kiss many babies. 109 00:05:40,164 --> 00:05:42,604 Speaker 2: And you predated high vis as well. 110 00:05:42,684 --> 00:05:44,644 Speaker 1: That's right, there was no high vis. I was just 111 00:05:45,164 --> 00:05:45,844 Speaker 1: normal vis. 112 00:05:46,004 --> 00:05:46,844 Speaker 2: You were just visible. 113 00:05:47,164 --> 00:05:49,884 Speaker 1: This is a science I but I think this story 114 00:05:49,884 --> 00:05:52,284 Speaker 1: will appeal to you, Brendan, and it is quite fascinating. 115 00:05:54,284 --> 00:05:57,804 Speaker 1: About three hundred and eighty million years ago, This is literally, 116 00:05:57,884 --> 00:06:00,564 Speaker 1: this isn't just my Beyond two thousand years, fish swimming 117 00:06:00,604 --> 00:06:03,164 Speaker 1: in the Devonian Seas carried a genetic program that would 118 00:06:03,244 --> 00:06:04,644 Speaker 1: later shape human hands. 119 00:06:05,324 --> 00:06:05,484 Speaker 3: Well. 120 00:06:05,484 --> 00:06:08,803 Speaker 1: A new study published in Nature, so you know it's reputable. This, 121 00:06:08,884 --> 00:06:12,004 Speaker 1: this isn't some sort of crazy woo woo magazine. It 122 00:06:12,044 --> 00:06:14,964 Speaker 1: reveals that the DNA switches responsible for forming fingers and 123 00:06:15,004 --> 00:06:17,884 Speaker 1: toes did not evolve from fins. It would always thought 124 00:06:17,924 --> 00:06:21,604 Speaker 1: that fins evolved into fingers and toes, But in fact, 125 00:06:22,204 --> 00:06:26,084 Speaker 1: these switches and these DNA changes are you ready were 126 00:06:26,124 --> 00:06:31,604 Speaker 1: recycled from the kloaka the bum. Yeah, a fish bum, 127 00:06:32,164 --> 00:06:36,363 Speaker 1: the multi purpose, excreusory and reproductive opening still found in 128 00:06:36,364 --> 00:06:39,444 Speaker 1: many animals. Chickens have a cloaker. I think reptiles do 129 00:06:39,564 --> 00:06:40,164 Speaker 1: have a cloaker. 130 00:06:41,004 --> 00:06:42,284 Speaker 2: It all comes out of one hole. 131 00:06:42,644 --> 00:06:47,123 Speaker 1: Everything happens through one hole. So researchers from the University 132 00:06:47,124 --> 00:06:50,924 Speaker 1: of Geneva and other collaborators have traced the connection using 133 00:06:50,964 --> 00:06:55,683 Speaker 1: mice and zebra fish embryos. Both species share a certain gene, 134 00:06:56,084 --> 00:07:00,964 Speaker 1: the master architects of building bodies. In mice, these genes 135 00:07:01,084 --> 00:07:04,684 Speaker 1: light up in budding digits, guiding their growth into digits. 136 00:07:05,004 --> 00:07:08,084 Speaker 1: In zebra fish. The same genes illuminate the kloaka. 137 00:07:08,364 --> 00:07:08,524 Speaker 3: Oh. 138 00:07:11,764 --> 00:07:16,964 Speaker 1: When scientists then changed that DNA mouse digits failed to 139 00:07:17,044 --> 00:07:22,364 Speaker 1: form zebra fish, the cloaka collapsed. What the fins remained, 140 00:07:22,404 --> 00:07:25,804 Speaker 1: So they said, the fins and the fingers aren't related. 141 00:07:25,964 --> 00:07:29,484 Speaker 1: The cloaka and the fingers are related. Are you keeping up? 142 00:07:29,604 --> 00:07:29,924 Speaker 2: I am? 143 00:07:30,484 --> 00:07:34,444 Speaker 1: This genetic recycling is known as evolutionary co option. It 144 00:07:34,524 --> 00:07:38,964 Speaker 1: shows that nature builds new structures not by inventing fresh systems, 145 00:07:39,204 --> 00:07:42,124 Speaker 1: but by retooling old ones, for example, the same way 146 00:07:42,164 --> 00:07:44,964 Speaker 1: that an old machine can be made from using other bits. 147 00:07:45,564 --> 00:07:51,244 Speaker 1: So the cloacal regulatory landscape was reassigned to sculpt digits 148 00:07:51,244 --> 00:07:54,564 Speaker 1: as fish ventured onto land. That's interesting. So it wasn't 149 00:07:54,564 --> 00:07:59,084 Speaker 1: the fins that became arms and fingers, it was your cloaka. 150 00:07:59,164 --> 00:08:03,444 Speaker 1: So the work reframes one of the great evolutionary transitions, 151 00:08:03,444 --> 00:08:07,084 Speaker 1: to move from fins to limbs. It wasn't a clean break, 152 00:08:07,564 --> 00:08:11,164 Speaker 1: it was a clever, rewhiney worrying of ancient instructions. So 153 00:08:11,364 --> 00:08:14,044 Speaker 1: every finger that we flex today, do this with your 154 00:08:14,044 --> 00:08:17,644 Speaker 1: handbread and flex your fingers. Every finger that we flex 155 00:08:18,124 --> 00:08:21,324 Speaker 1: carries the legacy of a cloacle blueprint. 156 00:08:21,524 --> 00:08:26,524 Speaker 3: So you're saying that man and woman's hands came out 157 00:08:26,564 --> 00:08:27,444 Speaker 3: of a fish's bum. 158 00:08:28,604 --> 00:08:31,604 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm glad you've paid attention and you've given us 159 00:08:31,644 --> 00:08:32,804 Speaker 1: that scientific summary. 160 00:08:32,924 --> 00:08:35,963 Speaker 3: I like it when you put on the lab coat. 161 00:08:36,644 --> 00:08:37,404 Speaker 2: Everybody hear. 162 00:08:41,084 --> 00:08:44,244 Speaker 3: On the cutting room floor today. The honey Badger, You 163 00:08:44,284 --> 00:08:46,204 Speaker 3: remember that, Nick Cummins, Yes, so. 164 00:08:46,284 --> 00:08:48,484 Speaker 1: Let's just I haven't heard that name for a long time. 165 00:08:48,884 --> 00:08:53,083 Speaker 1: Ex rugby player, union player, bachelor and in the end, 166 00:08:53,124 --> 00:08:55,604 Speaker 1: first time ever he choose No, he choose no. 167 00:08:55,564 --> 00:08:58,884 Speaker 2: One didn't. He chose none of the girls, and which. 168 00:08:58,924 --> 00:09:02,004 Speaker 1: Which in a way was fair enough and honest, but 169 00:09:02,244 --> 00:09:04,804 Speaker 1: it was made for a strange viewing. Yeah I did 170 00:09:05,244 --> 00:09:06,124 Speaker 1: broke two hearts. 171 00:09:06,324 --> 00:09:08,244 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the girls do. 172 00:09:08,324 --> 00:09:11,843 Speaker 1: Now she's she's one of the Australia's most famous podcasters. 173 00:09:12,204 --> 00:09:13,364 Speaker 2: But her name escapes me. 174 00:09:13,404 --> 00:09:14,004 Speaker 1: Britney Hawking. 175 00:09:14,204 --> 00:09:17,044 Speaker 2: Ah, she works with us, she's in our network. Sorry, Britney. 176 00:09:17,244 --> 00:09:19,764 Speaker 3: I had a mind like everyone just blends into each other. 177 00:09:20,444 --> 00:09:24,724 Speaker 3: But Nick commens the reason he thought that's chose. He said, 178 00:09:24,804 --> 00:09:25,404 Speaker 3: I'm just going to go. 179 00:09:25,444 --> 00:09:26,084 Speaker 2: I'm just here for the. 180 00:09:26,124 --> 00:09:29,524 Speaker 1: Chocolate bath and the pashing off straight in see pashes. 181 00:09:29,524 --> 00:09:33,244 Speaker 1: Everyone chooses no one. But having said that, there were 182 00:09:33,284 --> 00:09:36,404 Speaker 1: other relationships where you pash everyone pick one, and two 183 00:09:36,444 --> 00:09:38,524 Speaker 1: months later that relationship's over. I just I think a 184 00:09:38,524 --> 00:09:41,244 Speaker 1: lot of them probably go through the motions for the TV. 185 00:09:42,764 --> 00:09:45,444 Speaker 2: Emotions, keep away from the chocolate bath the bachelor. 186 00:09:45,484 --> 00:09:48,004 Speaker 3: I find that is odd because you're kissing all these ladies, 187 00:09:48,404 --> 00:09:50,644 Speaker 3: so you might be put off by a bad kisser 188 00:09:51,204 --> 00:09:53,084 Speaker 3: and you might be wooed by a good kisser. 189 00:09:53,124 --> 00:09:55,644 Speaker 2: But the good kisser could have a terrible personality, but 190 00:09:55,764 --> 00:09:56,164 Speaker 2: a good. 191 00:09:56,084 --> 00:09:58,004 Speaker 1: Kiss You choose personality or kissing. 192 00:09:58,964 --> 00:10:01,764 Speaker 2: Well, man, I care about kissing anyway means to ends. 193 00:10:01,764 --> 00:10:05,404 Speaker 1: Would you choose bikini body over personality? 194 00:10:06,484 --> 00:10:08,604 Speaker 3: I think well, I think we'll answer that some other time, 195 00:10:08,644 --> 00:10:10,804 Speaker 3: because it's not about me, it's about money. 196 00:10:12,964 --> 00:10:13,324 Speaker 2: Commons. 197 00:10:13,644 --> 00:10:16,924 Speaker 3: He has saved a little girl from choking on a lolly. 198 00:10:17,484 --> 00:10:21,404 Speaker 3: He was at Lower Eltham Park playground in Melbourne last 199 00:10:21,404 --> 00:10:25,724 Speaker 3: Saturday at the girls I'm presuming the kid's birthday party, 200 00:10:26,124 --> 00:10:28,764 Speaker 3: and the girl started choking on a soft lollie. 201 00:10:30,044 --> 00:10:34,124 Speaker 2: So he's and the poor mother. The girl's mother was beside. 202 00:10:33,804 --> 00:10:37,884 Speaker 3: Herself because she unsuccessfully tried to offer the first day 203 00:10:38,724 --> 00:10:40,764 Speaker 3: to the little girl and it wouldn't come out, and 204 00:10:40,764 --> 00:10:43,724 Speaker 3: it's very stressing when a little kid starts choking. 205 00:10:43,844 --> 00:10:46,164 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so Nicks come along. I don't know how 206 00:10:46,204 --> 00:10:46,564 Speaker 2: he did it. 207 00:10:46,724 --> 00:10:49,884 Speaker 3: They don't recommend you do the Heimlich maneuver on anyone, 208 00:10:49,964 --> 00:10:50,964 Speaker 3: especially a little kid. 209 00:10:51,004 --> 00:10:51,843 Speaker 1: That's not what he did. 210 00:10:52,124 --> 00:10:52,764 Speaker 2: What we did. 211 00:10:53,084 --> 00:10:55,844 Speaker 3: I did a first aid course recently for my cox 212 00:10:55,964 --> 00:10:57,644 Speaker 3: and certificate back to a brag there. 213 00:10:58,484 --> 00:11:00,884 Speaker 2: But you hang the kid upside down and jiggle him about. 214 00:11:01,604 --> 00:11:02,924 Speaker 1: And is that what he did it? 215 00:11:03,364 --> 00:11:04,524 Speaker 2: It can be. I'm not toure. 216 00:11:04,604 --> 00:11:06,604 Speaker 3: I don't have that information, but it is a very 217 00:11:06,644 --> 00:11:08,804 Speaker 3: distressing thing when they're choking. 218 00:11:08,964 --> 00:11:10,724 Speaker 1: So what a hero and is his mum come forward 219 00:11:10,724 --> 00:11:11,444 Speaker 1: to tell the story. 220 00:11:11,844 --> 00:11:13,603 Speaker 3: This has just come out in front of me that 221 00:11:13,644 --> 00:11:15,924 Speaker 3: I have no other information other than that this is 222 00:11:16,124 --> 00:11:17,324 Speaker 3: breaking news for me. 223 00:11:17,444 --> 00:11:21,684 Speaker 1: But he might not have chosen a foxy lady to 224 00:11:21,764 --> 00:11:23,964 Speaker 1: take home. Now he's saved a child. 225 00:11:24,164 --> 00:11:24,884 Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that. 226 00:11:24,884 --> 00:11:27,244 Speaker 3: If you're walking past the park and you just see 227 00:11:27,364 --> 00:11:28,804 Speaker 3: Nick Cummins with a kid. 228 00:11:30,204 --> 00:11:34,804 Speaker 2: Feet shaken it about, choose one. What are you doing? 229 00:11:35,724 --> 00:11:36,364 Speaker 2: It's a kid. 230 00:11:36,724 --> 00:11:38,884 Speaker 3: Nick the honey bed just beating up that little kid 231 00:11:39,044 --> 00:11:39,963 Speaker 3: because it's brutal. 232 00:11:40,004 --> 00:11:41,764 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, right, now it's brutal. 233 00:11:41,884 --> 00:11:42,924 Speaker 1: Yeah, but what a relief. 234 00:11:43,004 --> 00:11:43,604 Speaker 2: It's brutal. 235 00:11:43,804 --> 00:11:47,044 Speaker 3: I remember years ago, my sister is allergic to bees, 236 00:11:47,684 --> 00:11:50,083 Speaker 3: and I'd been watching Harry Butler in the wild. 237 00:11:50,084 --> 00:11:52,604 Speaker 2: Did you remember Harry Butler in the wild. He's seen 238 00:11:52,684 --> 00:11:54,203 Speaker 2: him for some reason. There was a whole raft of 239 00:11:54,244 --> 00:11:54,844 Speaker 2: those guys. 240 00:11:54,964 --> 00:11:59,004 Speaker 3: There was Harry Butler, it was Malcolm Douglas, Ben Croppy, 241 00:11:59,484 --> 00:12:00,564 Speaker 3: Albi Mangle. 242 00:12:00,404 --> 00:12:02,524 Speaker 1: Yes, and also the bush tucker Man. 243 00:12:03,484 --> 00:12:06,083 Speaker 2: This was before these guys begat. 244 00:12:06,244 --> 00:12:10,044 Speaker 3: The bush tucker Man and Albi Mangle was accused of 245 00:12:10,724 --> 00:12:11,884 Speaker 3: rigging a lot of the stuff. 246 00:12:12,044 --> 00:12:14,404 Speaker 1: Lots of jokes about Ben Crop, for he's a skull 247 00:12:14,484 --> 00:12:16,723 Speaker 1: and boers find at the same place every you. 248 00:12:16,684 --> 00:12:18,124 Speaker 2: Put that skull there last week. 249 00:12:19,124 --> 00:12:23,084 Speaker 3: But and I always found with Harry Butler, he would 250 00:12:23,124 --> 00:12:25,804 Speaker 3: always give your bush remedies for if something happened, Like 251 00:12:25,964 --> 00:12:28,284 Speaker 3: Malcolm Douglas, for example, he'd be on his alumin and 252 00:12:28,324 --> 00:12:31,084 Speaker 3: tin boat and he'd always run out of water the 253 00:12:31,124 --> 00:12:32,124 Speaker 3: tide blue eyes. 254 00:12:31,964 --> 00:12:34,124 Speaker 1: Go out, read the tide chart, Harry. 255 00:12:34,164 --> 00:12:37,844 Speaker 3: Then Malcolm would be Malcolm Waste Waste, deep in mud, 256 00:12:37,884 --> 00:12:39,684 Speaker 3: trying to get his quintracks out of the mud. 257 00:12:40,004 --> 00:12:43,284 Speaker 1: And you'd say, tie chart So what did you learn 258 00:12:43,284 --> 00:12:43,764 Speaker 1: from Harry? 259 00:12:43,884 --> 00:12:47,124 Speaker 3: Harry taught me how to remove a beasting from a 260 00:12:47,124 --> 00:12:51,044 Speaker 3: person effectively without injecting the poison into their flesh. 261 00:12:51,204 --> 00:12:51,724 Speaker 1: How do you do? 262 00:12:51,884 --> 00:12:52,964 Speaker 2: So what a lot of people do. 263 00:12:53,204 --> 00:12:56,684 Speaker 3: You get stung by a bee, the beasting comes off, 264 00:12:56,764 --> 00:12:57,644 Speaker 3: but also there's. 265 00:12:57,484 --> 00:12:59,244 Speaker 1: A little sack that stays in the skin. 266 00:12:59,684 --> 00:13:02,084 Speaker 3: The sack is on the end of the stinger that 267 00:13:02,204 --> 00:13:04,484 Speaker 3: comes out of the bees bum, and the sack is. 268 00:13:04,484 --> 00:13:06,843 Speaker 2: Full of the poison. And a lot of people would. 269 00:13:06,644 --> 00:13:09,204 Speaker 3: Think, oh, that's a handy little place thing to pull 270 00:13:09,284 --> 00:13:11,764 Speaker 3: the bee sting out. But no, no, no, what you're 271 00:13:11,804 --> 00:13:16,044 Speaker 3: doing is more or less injecting the bee poison, the 272 00:13:16,724 --> 00:13:18,524 Speaker 3: venom into the subject. 273 00:13:18,564 --> 00:13:19,204 Speaker 1: So what should you do? 274 00:13:19,444 --> 00:13:21,964 Speaker 2: And well, what you do is you get your fingernail 275 00:13:22,124 --> 00:13:25,603 Speaker 2: underneath the sign and you tease it out. 276 00:13:25,684 --> 00:13:27,004 Speaker 1: That's what you do with a tick too. 277 00:13:27,164 --> 00:13:27,364 Speaker 2: Yep. 278 00:13:27,444 --> 00:13:30,924 Speaker 3: So, and my sister who's allergic to bees, like deadly 279 00:13:30,964 --> 00:13:31,804 Speaker 3: allergic to bees. 280 00:13:32,044 --> 00:13:33,124 Speaker 2: I saved her life. 281 00:13:33,324 --> 00:13:36,844 Speaker 1: Wow, my grandmother saved my life. When I was two 282 00:13:37,564 --> 00:13:41,044 Speaker 1: and I no I'd wandered off around the No one 283 00:13:41,084 --> 00:13:42,764 Speaker 1: knew where I was. I was around the back of 284 00:13:42,764 --> 00:13:45,124 Speaker 1: the couch and there's a tin of peanuts that had 285 00:13:45,124 --> 00:13:48,644 Speaker 1: a ring pull to open the lid, and the ring 286 00:13:48,724 --> 00:13:51,324 Speaker 1: pool had come off, and I put it in my 287 00:13:51,404 --> 00:13:54,963 Speaker 1: mouth and I was quietly choking. It was my grandmother 288 00:13:55,164 --> 00:13:58,804 Speaker 1: that noticed hung me upside down, and then it was 289 00:13:58,844 --> 00:14:01,804 Speaker 1: the tip of her fingernail, of her little finger. She 290 00:14:01,884 --> 00:14:04,404 Speaker 1: was able to scoop it out ross I would have died. 291 00:14:05,244 --> 00:14:10,044 Speaker 1: Goodness me, imagine, imagine who you're already planning, who you 292 00:14:10,164 --> 00:14:14,083 Speaker 1: have in this ulterior universe on the sliding doors, who 293 00:14:14,084 --> 00:14:15,004 Speaker 1: you're doing this show with. 294 00:14:15,444 --> 00:14:19,884 Speaker 3: I'm just imagining you're doing something quietly, quietly choking, because 295 00:14:19,924 --> 00:14:27,284 Speaker 3: you don't do anything quietly. The end, everybody, it's time 296 00:14:27,364 --> 00:14:29,404 Speaker 3: for and Amanda's cutting room for. 297 00:14:33,084 --> 00:14:33,644 Speaker 2: Everybody. 298 00:14:33,924 --> 00:14:35,204 Speaker 1: It's time for John and. 299 00:14:35,244 --> 00:14:39,524 Speaker 3: Amanda's cutting Room for It's the cutting room for on. 300 00:14:39,364 --> 00:14:40,884 Speaker 2: The cutting room floor today. 301 00:14:41,204 --> 00:14:42,724 Speaker 1: You know, we've got a lot to say the Internet 302 00:14:42,764 --> 00:14:45,204 Speaker 1: for because you could be going about your business and 303 00:14:45,244 --> 00:14:47,804 Speaker 1: you're reading article that says you've been brushing your teeth wrong. 304 00:14:48,244 --> 00:14:53,164 Speaker 1: But you've been wiping your eyes wrong, you've been breathing incorrectly. 305 00:14:53,284 --> 00:14:55,284 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always you've been doing it wrong for. 306 00:14:55,324 --> 00:14:58,444 Speaker 1: These Yeah, Well, here's one I saw and I wanted 307 00:14:58,444 --> 00:15:00,684 Speaker 1: to see what you think of. Let's go how long 308 00:15:01,484 --> 00:15:03,724 Speaker 1: various household products should be in your home before you 309 00:15:03,724 --> 00:15:04,284 Speaker 1: throw them out? 310 00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:07,004 Speaker 3: Okay, well, don't you ask me and then I'll answer, 311 00:15:07,004 --> 00:15:09,164 Speaker 3: and then you've I'm presuming you have the correct answer. 312 00:15:09,564 --> 00:15:11,364 Speaker 1: It sounds like a quiz show Brenda. 313 00:15:11,404 --> 00:15:11,724 Speaker 2: I like it. 314 00:15:11,764 --> 00:15:13,524 Speaker 1: Why don't you ask me and I presume you have 315 00:15:13,604 --> 00:15:15,284 Speaker 1: the answer. That's what we'd call it. 316 00:15:17,684 --> 00:15:19,324 Speaker 2: Well, have you been paying attention? 317 00:15:19,364 --> 00:15:22,484 Speaker 3: Which pretty much speaks what it means, so this would 318 00:15:22,484 --> 00:15:23,004 Speaker 3: be the same. 319 00:15:23,164 --> 00:15:25,724 Speaker 1: All right, let's start with this. A bath sponge? You know, 320 00:15:25,764 --> 00:15:27,604 Speaker 1: how do you have a bath sponge? These are those 321 00:15:27,604 --> 00:15:30,204 Speaker 1: things like a loofer. It's not so much a loofer, 322 00:15:30,244 --> 00:15:32,124 Speaker 1: it's like a well, it's a sponge that you wash 323 00:15:32,164 --> 00:15:32,684 Speaker 1: your body with. 324 00:15:32,964 --> 00:15:34,724 Speaker 2: I don't have one of those. My wife has, women 325 00:15:34,764 --> 00:15:35,884 Speaker 2: have they? Okay? 326 00:15:36,004 --> 00:15:39,564 Speaker 1: How often should that be replaced? Not your wife, the sponge? 327 00:15:40,084 --> 00:15:42,764 Speaker 2: Do you replace them? Would you bother? It could last 328 00:15:42,764 --> 00:15:43,324 Speaker 2: for years? 329 00:15:43,684 --> 00:15:45,684 Speaker 1: Three to four weeks, it says. 330 00:15:45,444 --> 00:15:47,284 Speaker 2: Here every three to four weeks. 331 00:15:47,644 --> 00:15:49,844 Speaker 1: Well, I guess it gets gems and mank inside. 332 00:15:49,964 --> 00:15:52,564 Speaker 2: Well, in Roman times, they didn't have toilet paper. They 333 00:15:52,604 --> 00:15:53,284 Speaker 2: had a. 334 00:15:53,364 --> 00:15:55,884 Speaker 3: Rag on a stick on a stick, and you wipe 335 00:15:55,884 --> 00:15:57,124 Speaker 3: your bum with that and. 336 00:15:57,084 --> 00:15:58,924 Speaker 1: Then you pretty much pass it to the next person. 337 00:16:00,884 --> 00:16:02,444 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how parmesan cheese was. 338 00:16:02,604 --> 00:16:05,604 Speaker 1: All right, how you. 339 00:16:05,484 --> 00:16:06,764 Speaker 2: Do you, guys? I'm wrong on that one. 340 00:16:06,804 --> 00:16:08,124 Speaker 1: Do you own a toothbrush? 341 00:16:08,204 --> 00:16:08,364 Speaker 2: Yes? 342 00:16:08,404 --> 00:16:09,684 Speaker 1: I do. 343 00:16:09,724 --> 00:16:12,524 Speaker 2: I got an electric one. Have you don't you have electric? 344 00:16:12,804 --> 00:16:12,844 Speaker 3: No? 345 00:16:13,124 --> 00:16:15,004 Speaker 1: You know what, this is a terrible thing to admit 346 00:16:15,044 --> 00:16:18,524 Speaker 1: about myself. I'm so impatient. I don't have the patience 347 00:16:18,524 --> 00:16:22,204 Speaker 1: for an electric toothbrush. I've tried to have an electric toothbrush, 348 00:16:22,324 --> 00:16:24,204 Speaker 1: and I turn it off before it's finished because I 349 00:16:24,244 --> 00:16:27,884 Speaker 1: just I'm not patient enough. I'm wearing my whole life. 350 00:16:27,884 --> 00:16:30,284 Speaker 1: It's such as pace. Yeah, right, that I don't have 351 00:16:30,324 --> 00:16:31,964 Speaker 1: the patience to have my You. 352 00:16:31,924 --> 00:16:34,124 Speaker 3: Can use electric toothbrush for as long as you use 353 00:16:34,124 --> 00:16:34,964 Speaker 3: your normal toothbrush. 354 00:16:35,004 --> 00:16:36,964 Speaker 1: For you don't have well, it was set to a time, 355 00:16:37,004 --> 00:16:37,804 Speaker 1: it was supposed to. 356 00:16:38,044 --> 00:16:41,364 Speaker 2: Well, my one goes you need after two minutes? Brush? 357 00:16:41,484 --> 00:16:42,644 Speaker 2: Who's brushing for two minutes? 358 00:16:43,044 --> 00:16:43,764 Speaker 1: Make it to two? Many? 359 00:16:43,804 --> 00:16:46,644 Speaker 3: But I will say this, I don't use that feature 360 00:16:46,684 --> 00:16:47,364 Speaker 3: often in the morning. 361 00:16:48,204 --> 00:16:49,804 Speaker 2: I just use it like I would use a normal. 362 00:16:49,644 --> 00:16:52,524 Speaker 1: Tooth And what about the sponge on a stick? All right, 363 00:16:52,564 --> 00:16:55,164 Speaker 1: so let's see what are you saying that you still 364 00:16:55,204 --> 00:16:57,524 Speaker 1: have to replace the end of it. Don't you How 365 00:16:57,604 --> 00:17:00,964 Speaker 1: long a regular toothbrush or yours should be replaced? How often? 366 00:17:01,604 --> 00:17:05,604 Speaker 2: I probably you? Probably four months? I reckon, after four months? 367 00:17:06,644 --> 00:17:07,244 Speaker 1: Do you do you? 368 00:17:07,324 --> 00:17:07,484 Speaker 2: Yeah? 369 00:17:07,924 --> 00:17:10,684 Speaker 3: Because I got a bunch of I've hooked in with 370 00:17:10,803 --> 00:17:12,004 Speaker 3: the oral b people. 371 00:17:12,444 --> 00:17:17,204 Speaker 1: And did you misunderstand the website? 372 00:17:17,324 --> 00:17:20,603 Speaker 2: I work with her down in the snow. She was great. 373 00:17:24,484 --> 00:17:28,044 Speaker 3: They send me the heads of those send me their 374 00:17:28,084 --> 00:17:29,204 Speaker 3: heads every four months. 375 00:17:29,244 --> 00:17:33,803 Speaker 1: I changed it three months. Do you actually? You know? 376 00:17:33,844 --> 00:17:35,244 Speaker 1: What I think is funny is that you use a 377 00:17:35,284 --> 00:17:37,244 Speaker 1: hair brush more than I do. You're like the Fonds. 378 00:17:37,244 --> 00:17:38,204 Speaker 1: You come in here and brush your hair. 379 00:17:38,284 --> 00:17:40,563 Speaker 2: I do well. I wear a motorcycle helmet every day. 380 00:17:40,964 --> 00:17:42,364 Speaker 1: What difference does it make to brush? 381 00:17:43,124 --> 00:17:45,564 Speaker 2: Show? 382 00:17:46,124 --> 00:17:48,924 Speaker 1: How often should a hairbrush be replaced? And don't say 383 00:17:49,644 --> 00:17:52,964 Speaker 1: don't pretend that you're more hygienic than you are. Tell 384 00:17:53,044 --> 00:17:54,004 Speaker 1: how often you replace it? 385 00:17:54,084 --> 00:17:56,763 Speaker 2: Never? You could have a hair brush, I reckon for 386 00:17:56,804 --> 00:17:57,524 Speaker 2: a thousand years. 387 00:17:57,524 --> 00:17:59,964 Speaker 3: You pick the hair out of it, But why would 388 00:17:59,964 --> 00:18:01,004 Speaker 3: you have to change it? 389 00:18:01,284 --> 00:18:03,484 Speaker 1: Apparently a hair brush should be replaced every three to 390 00:18:03,564 --> 00:18:07,684 Speaker 1: six months. No, I just pulled the hair out of 391 00:18:07,684 --> 00:18:08,484 Speaker 1: it about once a year. 392 00:18:09,324 --> 00:18:10,724 Speaker 2: You're you're working with big hair brush. 393 00:18:10,764 --> 00:18:11,924 Speaker 1: Now big hair brush. 394 00:18:12,084 --> 00:18:14,124 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what they do, so you buy more of 395 00:18:14,164 --> 00:18:14,684 Speaker 2: their product. 396 00:18:14,964 --> 00:18:18,244 Speaker 1: How about this? Do you use a disposable raiser? 397 00:18:18,444 --> 00:18:19,364 Speaker 2: Yes? I do often? 398 00:18:19,364 --> 00:18:20,324 Speaker 1: Should that be replaced? 399 00:18:20,764 --> 00:18:24,724 Speaker 2: Oh I do that, I do it. I know you 400 00:18:24,724 --> 00:18:25,844 Speaker 2: wife use it on the legs. 401 00:18:25,964 --> 00:18:28,964 Speaker 3: Well no, we've got separate ones in the in the 402 00:18:29,084 --> 00:18:33,324 Speaker 3: in the shower, so I use I'm going to say 403 00:18:34,164 --> 00:18:36,884 Speaker 3: i'd probably use it about fifteen times, but then it 404 00:18:36,924 --> 00:18:38,724 Speaker 3: blunts and it starts scraping your face. 405 00:18:38,724 --> 00:18:40,924 Speaker 1: Well it should be replaced five to seven shaves. 406 00:18:41,444 --> 00:18:42,924 Speaker 2: Jump getting a lot of shaves out of mind. 407 00:18:42,924 --> 00:18:44,884 Speaker 1: Then what doesn't mean that that's good because I say, 408 00:18:44,924 --> 00:18:47,324 Speaker 1: I've had mine for twelve years. Mine's better. Just means 409 00:18:47,324 --> 00:18:52,764 Speaker 1: you shouldn't a kitchen sponge. Yeah, your son. 410 00:18:54,164 --> 00:18:59,804 Speaker 3: Golf spongy kitchen sponge I reckon when it gets really manky. 411 00:19:00,164 --> 00:19:02,404 Speaker 2: So I've got old sponge that's been in there for 412 00:19:02,444 --> 00:19:03,204 Speaker 2: a long time. 413 00:19:03,764 --> 00:19:05,283 Speaker 1: Well give me a time. Well I got a few 414 00:19:05,364 --> 00:19:08,884 Speaker 1: kitchen I've got two kitchens. I got two kitchens. 415 00:19:08,884 --> 00:19:11,004 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's not my fault. Don't hate on me. 416 00:19:12,324 --> 00:19:13,844 Speaker 1: Talking about it makes me hate you. 417 00:19:13,884 --> 00:19:15,523 Speaker 2: But there's two kitchen. So the one that doesn't get 418 00:19:15,644 --> 00:19:16,044 Speaker 2: nice years. 419 00:19:16,124 --> 00:19:18,604 Speaker 1: Oh god, just say it a kitchen sponge. How long 420 00:19:18,604 --> 00:19:20,964 Speaker 1: should you six months? One to two weeks. 421 00:19:21,044 --> 00:19:22,604 Speaker 2: I've wanted two weeks. 422 00:19:23,684 --> 00:19:25,924 Speaker 1: No Daniels has been on a stick in the bathroom. 423 00:19:26,164 --> 00:19:27,884 Speaker 1: Pillows should be replaced. How often? 424 00:19:28,044 --> 00:19:30,524 Speaker 3: I've still got my Spidally's pillow from when they first 425 00:19:30,524 --> 00:19:33,164 Speaker 3: went into business, so I've had that for ten years. 426 00:19:33,404 --> 00:19:35,684 Speaker 1: Twelve months. You should replace your pillow. It's got all 427 00:19:35,724 --> 00:19:39,244 Speaker 1: your head man in it. Let's see what else you've got. Yeah, 428 00:19:39,284 --> 00:19:40,164 Speaker 1: socks and undies. 429 00:19:40,684 --> 00:19:44,283 Speaker 3: Oh, socks and anddies I've got I've got I'm wearing 430 00:19:44,364 --> 00:19:47,644 Speaker 3: school socks that I had in a high school and 431 00:19:47,684 --> 00:19:50,164 Speaker 3: I left high school in nineteen eighty four. 432 00:19:50,684 --> 00:19:51,644 Speaker 1: What about anddies? 433 00:19:52,004 --> 00:19:52,444 Speaker 2: Undies? 434 00:19:54,164 --> 00:19:55,884 Speaker 1: I've got unders, you're wearing them. 435 00:19:55,924 --> 00:19:58,283 Speaker 3: I've got undies that have been I've been wearing as 436 00:19:58,284 --> 00:19:59,124 Speaker 3: long as we've been. 437 00:19:58,964 --> 00:20:02,603 Speaker 2: Doing this shut twenty years. I've got twenty year undies. 438 00:20:02,644 --> 00:20:04,884 Speaker 1: You should replace them every six to twelve months. 439 00:20:05,244 --> 00:20:06,724 Speaker 2: Who's replacing their undies? 440 00:20:06,764 --> 00:20:10,644 Speaker 1: Well maybe everyone, but you maybe don't show your don't 441 00:20:10,684 --> 00:20:13,324 Speaker 1: show your shortcomings. 442 00:20:13,404 --> 00:20:16,204 Speaker 3: I know that we have I know that you replaced 443 00:20:16,204 --> 00:20:19,124 Speaker 3: around this regularly because you have a lot of accidents. 444 00:20:20,444 --> 00:20:24,204 Speaker 1: And finally, a shower curtain or a shower curtain liner. 445 00:20:25,204 --> 00:20:26,523 Speaker 2: What's a shower curtain liner? 446 00:20:26,644 --> 00:20:28,604 Speaker 1: We'll just say it's a shower curtain. How often should 447 00:20:28,604 --> 00:20:31,724 Speaker 1: you replace a flappy shower curtain like a plastic thing. 448 00:20:32,404 --> 00:20:34,324 Speaker 2: It's been a long time since I've had a place 449 00:20:34,324 --> 00:20:35,283 Speaker 2: with a shower curtain. 450 00:20:35,324 --> 00:20:37,283 Speaker 1: But you've got five bathrooms, so does one of them 451 00:20:37,284 --> 00:20:37,844 Speaker 1: have a curtain? 452 00:20:38,444 --> 00:20:38,604 Speaker 2: No? 453 00:20:39,204 --> 00:20:40,404 Speaker 1: Okay, you didn't even. 454 00:20:40,244 --> 00:20:44,524 Speaker 3: Disappute it, I know, not on the bones of yours. 455 00:20:45,764 --> 00:20:46,523 Speaker 1: Come on say it. 456 00:20:47,244 --> 00:20:50,484 Speaker 3: Yes, Well, okay, when we had a house in Brisbane, 457 00:20:50,524 --> 00:20:53,444 Speaker 3: we had a shower curtain and I remember buying it 458 00:20:53,524 --> 00:20:56,684 Speaker 3: from Bunnings at the time, and we lived in the 459 00:20:56,764 --> 00:20:57,563 Speaker 3: house for two years. 460 00:20:57,404 --> 00:20:58,164 Speaker 2: And I'll never changed it. 461 00:20:59,284 --> 00:21:01,164 Speaker 1: So six months, I say, so, I. 462 00:21:01,124 --> 00:21:02,804 Speaker 2: Had it for two years and before all I know 463 00:21:02,924 --> 00:21:03,804 Speaker 2: it could be still there. 464 00:21:03,844 --> 00:21:05,004 Speaker 1: How many years ago was that? 465 00:21:05,004 --> 00:21:05,364 Speaker 2: That was? 466 00:21:05,604 --> 00:21:09,924 Speaker 3: We moved out of Brisbane in ninety ninety eight, and 467 00:21:10,044 --> 00:21:13,444 Speaker 3: I know the house went under the underwater in the floods. 468 00:21:14,204 --> 00:21:15,364 Speaker 1: Would have the rinse. 469 00:21:16,724 --> 00:21:19,964 Speaker 2: A Brisbane River water fixes all ailes. 470 00:21:20,524 --> 00:21:23,364 Speaker 1: Rinse your sponge on a stick in there and go again. 471 00:21:24,244 --> 00:21:28,684 Speaker 1: Explains the color of the Brisbane River