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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that the nightlife in Sydney has taken a

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Speaker 2: hit in recent years, but the Premier is looking to

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Speaker 2: revamp the city in an effort to bring back some

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Speaker 2: much needed entertainment and liveliness to the Harbor city. He

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Speaker 2: joins us right now, good morning, Premiere.

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Speaker 1: Go today, Amanda good A, Jonesy, thanks for having me on, Chris.

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Speaker 2: How are you talk us through some of the stuff

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Speaker 2: that you're hoping to change.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think there's a general consensus that

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Speaker 1: Sydney's got a bit boring, particularly in the last decade,

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Speaker 1: and that's as a creeping result of a lot of

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Speaker 1: bureaucracy and red tape that stopped live music venues from

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Speaker 1: having fun. There's been clauses in contracts that have been

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Speaker 1: given from councils to local pubs that have forbidden dancing,

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Speaker 1: not allowed. Choirs put a specific clause in their DA

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Speaker 1: that said no entertainment allowed. It's the definition of the

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Speaker 1: fun police. And as a result of that, you've seen

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Speaker 1: half our live venues closed. Now. Part of that is

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Speaker 1: to do with COVID and the real stress that put

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Speaker 1: on the live music sector and outdoor entertainment and restaurants.

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Speaker 1: But also there's been a real creep in local residents

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Speaker 1: being able to complain about their local venue. So we

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Speaker 1: want to turn that on its head and allow venues

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Speaker 1: to thrive and have a bit of excitement in Australia's

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Speaker 3: One venue that I've been talking about a bit lately, Chris,

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Speaker 3: is the Gray Gums Cafe. A party there. So it's

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Speaker 3: in the middle of nowhere. It's a motorcycle destination, it's

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Speaker 3: a little coffee place. People stop there. It's a driver

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Speaker 3: of reviver space as well. But Singleton Council has been

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Speaker 3: incredibly bloody minded as far as the draconian laws towards

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Speaker 3: to drive this out of this place, out of business,

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Speaker 3: like they're going hand to mouth each week with because

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Speaker 3: every week they go for one of their crazy das

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Speaker 3: that the Singleton Council's put in through them, and then

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Speaker 3: they just keep putting up more and more roadblocks. And

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Speaker 3: this is a place in the middle of there's no neighbors.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why this is happening. We're looking at

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Speaker 3: a business that it might not well probably won't last

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Speaker 3: till the end of the year because of these laws.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of councils and I think previously

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Speaker 1: the state government didn't understand what the kind of capital,

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Speaker 1: the money, the heart and soul that you have to

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Speaker 1: put into one of these venues to keep it viable.

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Speaker 1: It's genuinely mums and dads putting their life savings into

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Speaker 1: a venue to try and have a bit of fun

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Speaker 1: and give people an opportunity to blow off some steam.

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Speaker 1: But there's some other examples Jonesy which are terrible. The

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Speaker 1: Pocket Bar Interegle had to turn away acquire because it

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Speaker 1: had more than three members. The Mitch Hotel in Alexandria

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to have acoustic music on a Sunday afternoon

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Speaker 1: because it was prevented as part of their entertainment restrictions.

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Speaker 1: So we're bringing some changes. The first one is order

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Speaker 1: of occupancy. If the pub was there first, it's been

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Speaker 1: there a long time and you move in afterwards, too bad. Secondly,

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Speaker 1: you're no longer going to be able to complain to

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Speaker 1: seven different government agencies about the noise at the local pub.

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Speaker 1: There's only one area that you can complain to. And

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Speaker 1: if you're the sole complainant. There's no chance that that

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Speaker 1: parb or that club or that restaurants will have its

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Speaker 1: license taken away from them. And there are a range

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Speaker 1: of other changes, like removing the no entertainment cause, which

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Speaker 1: is being shoved in by some local councils before they

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Speaker 1: give a development application to go in.

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Speaker 2: I saw also that people may be allowed to dine

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Speaker 2: outside on this and drink outside from venues, which you know,

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Speaker 2: if you want to sit outside and take part in

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Speaker 2: the beautiful Sydney summer evenings, you haven't been able to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was this insane restriction for outdoor dining that

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Speaker 1: prevented patrons from standing while drinking. So if you could

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Speaker 1: grab a seat and you know, one of those cool

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Speaker 1: city bars close to the harbor, it's very difficult to

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Speaker 1: just for the locals, it's also international tourists who come

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Speaker 1: to Sydney want to have fun. Think about it as

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Speaker 1: a late night after ours entertainment zone, and it just

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Speaker 1: closes up very quickly. But we could turn it around,

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Speaker 1: and I think we can do it very quickly in

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Speaker 1: some of these changes have already meant that live music's

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Speaker 1: on its way back into Sydney. And just last week

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Speaker 1: or the week before that, we were voted the best

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Speaker 1: destination in the world by Condy Nest magazine, which hasn't

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Speaker 3: When you say quickly though, and I'm just speaking about

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Speaker 3: Greg Gum's cafe, it's really dire for them and they're

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Speaker 3: getting hope, no help from anyone. How soon will this

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Speaker 3: be coming coming through?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I could take that one away with me,

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Speaker 1: try and get an answer for you, Jamesy. But most

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Speaker 1: of these changes are in place as is now. The

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Speaker 1: legislation was introduced by the government, my understanding is yesterday

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Speaker 1: into the Parliament, so we're hoping that it will pass,

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Speaker 1: that our colleagues from other parties will show some common

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Speaker 1: if you live in a direct vicinity of a restaurant

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Speaker 1: or a bar, it's not just for you and those

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Speaker 1: that live on your block or in your street. That

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Speaker 1: area that community is for the all the people that

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Speaker 1: live in that city, and particularly for Sydney, if you

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Speaker 1: live in the middle of Sydney CBD or close to it,

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Speaker 1: you have to understand that that that neighborhood is being

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Speaker 1: used by all the five million people that live in Sydney,

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Speaker 1: not just the say one hundred that live on the block. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think my favorite one out of all of it

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Speaker 3: was in Dubbo. You could have an ACDC cover band,

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Speaker 3: but if ac DC showed up in Dubbo to play

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Speaker 3: at this particular venue, they wouldn't be allowed to play.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like the town from Footloose, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: There's no dancing.

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Speaker 2: That's you, but not you.

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Speaker 3: You're the guy against it. You're you're Kevin Bacon.

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Speaker 1: Actually, you've got a bit of a called that before.

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Speaker 3: You've got a bit of you know, when you look

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Speaker 3: at it, you've got a bit of the Kevin Baker

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Speaker 3: that's right in your wheelhouse, is right.

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Speaker 1: Well. The Fringe Festival. The Fringe Festival got a da

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Speaker 1: couple or two years ago with an explicit restriction that

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Speaker 1: they were not allow to dance as part of.

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Speaker 3: The You've got to Rattle the cage. Chris Come on

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Speaker 3: kick some of these bureau characrats up the Chris and

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Speaker 3: it'd be great if you could follow up on Gray

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Speaker 3: Gum's Cafe, because mate, really that is dire for them,

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Speaker 3: that is a die And they have done everything, they've

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Speaker 3: been over backwards for Singleton Council and they just keep

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Speaker 3: roadblocking them at every turn and it's it's quite extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how they get.

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Speaker 1: Away with it. I'll take it away with me, Jonesy.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely good on your mister mens.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, nice to talk to your premier.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, guys,