WEBVTT - Ask Uncut - Do 'Instagram' Men Give You the Ick?

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was recorded on cameragle Land. Hi guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to another episode of Life. I'm Cut, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Laura, I'm Brittany, and this is our ask guncut episode

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<v Speaker 2>where you're writing your deepest, darkest burning questions. We do

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<v Speaker 2>our damn best to answer them.

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<v Speaker 3>We certainly do.

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<v Speaker 1>But first, can we just like talk about em Rada

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<v Speaker 1>for one hot second?

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<v Speaker 3>Em Rada hot? Love her hottest? Do you do? You

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<v Speaker 3>know why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because even when I don't love her, I find her

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to watch. That's why I think I like it

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<v Speaker 2>Because I disagree with so many things that she doesn't say,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still love watching it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I disagree with things that she

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<v Speaker 1>does and says. I understand the complexities around a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the conversations that have been had when she's I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, well, let's not even get into it in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like her take on feminist issues, but it

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<v Speaker 1>feels very choice feminism anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care about that. What I care about is

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<v Speaker 3>her haircut. I deeply care about her haircut.

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<v Speaker 1>She has just been posting for the six days on

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<v Speaker 1>her TikTok around the worst haircut she's ever had. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you would never think that someone with that much money,

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<v Speaker 1>with that much access to like the best of the best,

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly be subjected to like a bad haircut.

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<v Speaker 3>It's beyond bad, it's horrific.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we need to break this down a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit in case people haven't seen it. Emm Rada has

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<v Speaker 2>gone she's doing a series of videos on TikTok about

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<v Speaker 2>the worst haircut she's ever had. So she hasn't named

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<v Speaker 2>the person, but she's like, I've gone to this guy

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<v Speaker 2>that cut my hair. So he's cut her bangs from

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<v Speaker 2>it literally starts from the nape of her neck.

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<v Speaker 3>The band start from the back of her neck and

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<v Speaker 3>go all.

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<v Speaker 2>The way over the front.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like David Bowie, It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like he was cutting her fringe and then he

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<v Speaker 2>slipped on some hair on the ground. I was like sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he was like, oh, I better just do

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<v Speaker 2>that to the other side and call it a choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you reckon that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's that or do you reckon that. She's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>gone in being like I want this edgy look, this

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<v Speaker 4>is what I want, and so the hairdress has gone Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's what you asked for, Like, that's what you want?

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<v Speaker 4>To give you what you want, you're paying me, and

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<v Speaker 4>then she's gone, this is the worst haircut I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder whose fault it is. Did she ask for

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<v Speaker 4>you know, that particular type of haircut and it just.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't suit up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is quite hard for hairdresses because often

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<v Speaker 1>people would describe what they want, but they don't use

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<v Speaker 1>the right words.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, for example, I take.

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<v Speaker 2>A picture in of like Kendall Jenner and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe look.

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<v Speaker 1>I went in once and I was like, I took

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<v Speaker 1>a photo and I was like, oh, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get like some ashy highlights, and the woman was like,

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<v Speaker 1>just so you know, there's nothing ashy about that reference photo.

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<v Speaker 3>That is warm highlights. And I was like, cool, that's

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<v Speaker 3>my problem. I've done it wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why it needs to be visual. You need to

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<v Speaker 2>take a picture instead of going in and describing what

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<v Speaker 2>you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Just please go and look at Emrat's TikTok. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>someone's cut steps into the fringe when it's like parted

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<v Speaker 1>as a normal fringe, but when it's fully forward, it

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<v Speaker 1>starts from the back of her part, like it is

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<v Speaker 1>the most aggressively long full head of fringe that.

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<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's very like two thy ten MySpace era where like

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<v Speaker 4>the shaggy mullet kind of look was in where it

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<v Speaker 4>came over the front.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm sorry, she's still so hot. Sheila's supermodel, like

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<v Speaker 2>she could do anything to her hair and she would

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<v Speaker 2>be amazed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's annoying, because she's like, this is the worst

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<v Speaker 1>haircut I've ever had, but I'm beautiful. Look at me.

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<v Speaker 1>She still looks hard, like, imagine me with that haircut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't want to imagine that. Thanks love, heart,

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<v Speaker 2>I had.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I just pitched.

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<v Speaker 4>Remember that time when you put my clip on fringe,

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<v Speaker 4>which is blonde For anyone who doesn't know, I am

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<v Speaker 4>like almost white blonde hair.

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<v Speaker 3>I have this clip in fringe. I actually have one

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<v Speaker 3>in right now. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Laura put it on the front of her head, and

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<v Speaker 4>because you have brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Hair, it looked like a top deckch I also look

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<v Speaker 1>like David Bowie.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we all have to go through that

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<v Speaker 2>phase of life where you have a terrible haircut. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember when I just thought that this was the coolest haircut,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm mortified when I see it now. I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up with a nickname Lego Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I part so my less I already know what it looks.

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<v Speaker 2>My hair was jet black, like I had the darkest

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<v Speaker 2>hair because I used to just died at home and

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<v Speaker 2>it was just easier to get. It was called darkest brown,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was basically black. And I cut a fringe

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<v Speaker 2>that was straight, and then I cut it into a

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<v Speaker 2>straight bob. It looks like Lord fark Wood. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>looked exactly. I looked like Lord Farquard and it was

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<v Speaker 2>terrible and I was like hot, edgy Fashian and everyone

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, Lego Man.

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<v Speaker 1>But also every single person in their younger years has

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<v Speaker 1>had a horrifying haircut, Like that's just like a ride

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<v Speaker 1>of passage. I also do deeply remember the time when

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<v Speaker 1>it was like normal for people in their like early twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>late teens to dye their hair.

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<v Speaker 3>I also went through the home dying era. The problem

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<v Speaker 3>with home.

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<v Speaker 1>Dies back then is that the color was so dense,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the color was just dense and heavy, thickest color.

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<v Speaker 1>It just yeah, it made your hair look like it

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<v Speaker 1>was four D. There was so much color to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I had this one. So I had really long

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<v Speaker 1>hair that I could almost sit on.

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<v Speaker 3>When I was little, my mum was so long.

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<v Speaker 1>My mum was so proud about the fact that both

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<v Speaker 1>my sister and I had this like long, beautiful hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So Mum would never let me get a cut. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted a bob, like I wanted a bob so bad,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, it's not happening anyway. She took

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<v Speaker 1>me to the hairdresser and she got me a cut,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was nowhere near short enough.

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<v Speaker 3>It was only like to my brasstrap.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I had divorced parents and I could play

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<v Speaker 1>them off against each other. I then went to my

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<v Speaker 1>dad's house the next weekend and I said, oh, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>Mum said I could get my haircut and need to

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<v Speaker 1>get a trim, and he's like, oh, okay, yeah, no worries.

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<v Speaker 1>Took me into Just Cuts and I sat in the

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<v Speaker 1>chair at Just Cuts and my dad was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go to the fishing shop. I'll come

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty minutes. And I was like, can I

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<v Speaker 1>get really short bob? And the woman was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if your dad said that's okay, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, yeah, so fine, so fait did you?

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<v Speaker 3>I had an undercut.

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<v Speaker 1>I went from hair that I could almost sit on

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<v Speaker 1>to having a shaved undercut, and I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>so cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, fucking up, did you undercut?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Did you ask for the undercut or was that

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<v Speaker 2>an accidental shave?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked for the bob to be so short that

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<v Speaker 1>the only way to cut it is to shave up

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<v Speaker 1>to the bob, like you have to shave up to

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<v Speaker 1>the undercut.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember the time where that was really cool too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a fifty year old woman's hairstyle, or maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like sixty year old woman's hairstyle.

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<v Speaker 2>I also used to when I or a fourteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Year old boys like it's one of the two. Laura

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<v Speaker 3>had a fade.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a fade like Ben, but I was I

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<v Speaker 1>was only like fifty. No, yeah, I was younger than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, that's I was. I was probably

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<v Speaker 1>twelve or eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>I also remember before I could dye my hair, I

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<v Speaker 2>was allowed to dye my hair. Everyone was dying it

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<v Speaker 2>at school and I was like, please warm, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was like, you're not dyeing your hair. I was in

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<v Speaker 2>year six and my older brothers were allowed to bleach

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<v Speaker 2>their hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a bit of a rough lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they were older in high school, it was different.

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<v Speaker 2>They have short hair. I was in year six and

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<v Speaker 2>I had brown hair, and I remember they had some

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<v Speaker 2>diet home and I was like, I'll just die a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of strands and she won't know. But I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea how it worked. So I got, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how they used to hate the name, but they

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<v Speaker 2>used to be called slut strips, like sluts. So I

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<v Speaker 2>got these two slut strands of like they were a

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<v Speaker 2>centimeter and there was I thought they were so thin,

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<v Speaker 2>so I like wound the bleach down them, thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>there would be such a subtle sul lit highlight.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Like two centimeters strips of bleach down the front of

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<v Speaker 2>my hair and that seat Mum was like, what the

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<v Speaker 2>hell have you done? And I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't know. It was so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, guys, I'm sure everyone has a story about their

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<v Speaker 1>terrible hair.

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<v Speaker 3>We've all been there.

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<v Speaker 4>I have an update on something that I kind of

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<v Speaker 4>accidentally discovered last ask on cut when.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys, I'm trying to think of the question that

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<v Speaker 3>you were answering.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even remember which question it was, but I

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<v Speaker 4>remember having this revelation where I kind of interjected and

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<v Speaker 4>I was basically I was like, wait, hang on a second,

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<v Speaker 4>are you telling me that in a long term relationship,

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<v Speaker 4>you guys still make out just for the purpose of

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<v Speaker 4>making out, not needing it to go anywhere, not having

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<v Speaker 4>it always lead to sex.

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<v Speaker 3>Or like, are you regularly doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I just asked Laura. I just said, do you guys

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<v Speaker 2>still make out in the kitchennel? No?

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<v Speaker 1>Your exact words were, I can't imagine you two ever

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<v Speaker 1>making out, And I was like, we still make.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, yeah, with each of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I mean without sex. I mean like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>still just walk around and make out, have a session

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<v Speaker 2>and then continue on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sometimes when you've got kids, you can't have the

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<v Speaker 1>sex right after, so you make out and then like

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<v Speaker 1>a book.

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<v Speaker 3>That was nice. That's not gonna anything, is it? See

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<v Speaker 3>you twenty twenty six, we'll finish that off.

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<v Speaker 4>It was kind of for me one of those moments

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<v Speaker 4>where I just realized that my reality is very different

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<v Speaker 4>to some other people's because I could not tell you

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<v Speaker 4>hand on my heart, I couldn't tell you the last

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<v Speaker 4>time I made out with my boyfriend when it didn't

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<v Speaker 4>lead to sex, and it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's ever happened. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of people who would share

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<v Speaker 1>that similarity, especially after long term relationships, like the makeout

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<v Speaker 1>sessions turn into PEX and the makeout sessions turn into

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<v Speaker 1>only when it's gonna you know, time for more fun time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then people have sex without even kissing.

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<v Speaker 3>Now time for more fun times? What was that sex?

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, I'm a grown up.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have kids and sometimes I forget I'm allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to speak like an adult on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>So we put a poll up, as you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>love to do.

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<v Speaker 4>There were seven thousand people who responded to the poll,

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<v Speaker 4>and thirty six percent of people are still making out

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<v Speaker 4>in their long term relationship without having it lead to anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, they're my people.

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<v Speaker 4>I do feel comfort in the fact that not really

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<v Speaker 4>it almost always leads to sex. Is at sixty four opposite,

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<v Speaker 4>So at least I'm in the majority.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got a couple of messages.

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<v Speaker 4>From people and they were like, why would I make

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<v Speaker 4>out with my husband?

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<v Speaker 2>That to me is the problem. That to me is

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<v Speaker 2>the problem and so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I also got a message from Tara Oh, who we've

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<v Speaker 4>had on the podcast before You Guys spoke with her

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<v Speaker 4>about all things to do with like igniting the spark

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<v Speaker 4>and all that kind of thing, and she was like, girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to be making out. And that was when

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<v Speaker 4>I was I was kind of thinking, like, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>you gave me homework. I did give you, I know,

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<v Speaker 4>but I didn't do it because I felt you were like, because.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so frightened it would lead to set. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to give them the wrong impression.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it can't. That was the point.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't lead to sex. You have to go up,

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<v Speaker 2>have a makeout and walk away, go go back to work.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole point was the challenge Kija wonder.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, Ma, can you go to a sex club?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just asking to kiss your So funny because I

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<v Speaker 4>was the one that when You Guys spoke with Jessica,

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<v Speaker 4>who owns a sex club in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember at the time this is years ago, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was the one who was like, yeah, okay, I'll go,

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<v Speaker 3>like this will.

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<v Speaker 4>Be fun experiment because you won't even kiss your partner.

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<v Speaker 3>Come approved, No, you're like I'd rather go to the

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<v Speaker 3>sex club. It's my boyfriend, that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we don't want to blarring to hear that it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it's fine, it's fine. I still ask the question, though,

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<v Speaker 1>when does it change? Like when is that pivot in

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<v Speaker 1>a long term relationship where you go from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having like just the passionate makeouts to going oh, can't

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<v Speaker 1>be bothered?

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<v Speaker 3>Like when does it happen? It happen to a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people. But I think it's a slow burn.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think it happens to most people at some point, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know if there's a specific day. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a slow faded.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a Tuesday, it's once fine summer day.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a point in time or like

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<v Speaker 2>a one year in three years, and I think it

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<v Speaker 2>just just happens. Yeah, this is why I'll never live

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<v Speaker 2>with my partner, so I'll always make out with him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's such a shame, isn't it? Keep the makeouts alive?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's get into vibes and unsubscribe before we answer

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<v Speaker 1>your questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Britt, what is your.

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<v Speaker 2>Bab My vibe is on Apple TV. If you have

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<v Speaker 2>Apple TV. It came out a couple of days ago,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's called Number One on the Call Sheet. It's

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<v Speaker 2>about the acting industry, it's about Hollywood, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>two part docu series, but it's specifically on black actors

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<v Speaker 2>in Hollywood. Episode one is just based around leading Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>Black men, So I'm talking the Rock, Eddie Murphy, Kevin Hart,

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<v Speaker 2>Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington, Jamie Fox, Will Smith, all of

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<v Speaker 2>the people that you would associate being with the top

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<v Speaker 2>leading men in Hollywood. The second episode is exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing, but leading black women. So like the halle Berry,

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<v Speaker 2>Viola Davis, will Be Goldberg, Cynthia and Revo Angela Bassett,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the gys. So they've basically gone through and

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<v Speaker 2>found people that are absolutely killing it in the acting

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<v Speaker 2>industry in Hollywood, and they interview them, and they interviewed

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<v Speaker 2>them on all of their individual stories about how they

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<v Speaker 2>got to where they did, but also the challenges they

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<v Speaker 2>faced being black in the industry, what they had to

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<v Speaker 2>do to fight for a seat at the table to

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<v Speaker 2>be looked at to be a leading person. So number

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<v Speaker 2>one on the call sheet, what that actually means is

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<v Speaker 2>if you are number one on your acting call sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>It means you you are the highest paid actor and

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<v Speaker 2>means you are the leading person. So some people don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but you get ranked, so there are you know. Some

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<v Speaker 2>of these actors have come out saying I was always

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<v Speaker 2>number twelve or thirteen. Sometimes I didn't get a name.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, you know, this man whatever. And it

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<v Speaker 2>not only goes through how hard it was, it also

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<v Speaker 2>some of them found it really easy. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>was Eddie Murphy was saying, I'm in the minority. I

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<v Speaker 2>had one audition in my entire.

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<v Speaker 3>Life because it always just got cast.

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<v Speaker 2>For Saturday Night Live, and then it was just the

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<v Speaker 2>easiest thing for him. From there, But other people talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the struggles and how far we've got to come.

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<v Speaker 2>But they also speak a lot about their personal life too,

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<v Speaker 2>So The Rock is really honest about why his first

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<v Speaker 2>marriage deteriorated. Will Smith talks a lot about where he

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<v Speaker 2>went wrong with his daughter Willow Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting that they've got so many like high flying celebrities

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<v Speaker 1>to be a part of it, every.

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<v Speaker 2>Single leading black person basically, so Apple TV number one

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<v Speaker 2>on the call sheet. I personally loved it. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>two docuseries.

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<v Speaker 3>My vibe this.

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<v Speaker 4>Week is one of I'm actually going to say it,

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<v Speaker 4>it's one of the best podcast episodes I have ever

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<v Speaker 4>listened to in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the recent.

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<v Speaker 4>Episode of Diary of a CEO with Logan Yuri, who

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<v Speaker 4>is the behavioral scientist from him.

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<v Speaker 3>She's been on the podcast a bunch of times.

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<v Speaker 4>Very coincidentally, her episode of Cloud came out on Dating

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<v Speaker 4>An ADHD last Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>But was equally the best episode Kesh's ever listen.

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<v Speaker 4>And to show his life episodes of She was on

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<v Speaker 4>Chloe Kardashian's podcast the week before Diary the CEO, and

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<v Speaker 4>so I was like, Wow, Logan, you're really big guns.

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<v Speaker 4>Cloud's the third one, you know, the big one leading

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<v Speaker 4>the world.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a first We've spoken to Logan quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few times. What makes this the best episode? It was

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<v Speaker 1>with Prof g So Scott Galloway.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys have heard me recommend his podcast a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of times as well. He's the guy who I spoke

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<v Speaker 4>about his podcast because I was like, he's an easy

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<v Speaker 4>entry for me to the world of finance, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just love the way that the two of them discussed this.

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<v Speaker 4>The episode is called Masculinity Debate, Our dating apps, creating

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<v Speaker 4>in cells. Lonely men are more dangerous than ever. This

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<v Speaker 4>episode is really long, It's nearly two and a half hours.

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<v Speaker 4>It is basically a debate between Logan and Scott. However

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<v Speaker 4>they agree on most things, but they have so many

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<v Speaker 4>incredible statistics to back it up, and like listening to

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<v Speaker 4>the episode, yes, it is a little bit alarming about

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<v Speaker 4>what is going on in our world at the moment.

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<v Speaker 4>This is obviously quite topical because there was a recently

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<v Speaker 4>this report published called Lost Boys, and it was basically

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<v Speaker 4>all about what's going wrong with the generation of men

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<v Speaker 4>that are coming through now and with the boys who

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<v Speaker 4>are growing up and adolescence has obviously been the number

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<v Speaker 4>one TV show in the world, so this is a

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<v Speaker 4>particularly interesting thing, I think for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 4>to try and examine the reasons that you know, men

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<v Speaker 4>are failing in society and the things that are causing

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<v Speaker 4>for them to feel like they don't have a sense

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<v Speaker 4>of purpose and why are they finding these internet people

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<v Speaker 4>to align with, Why can't they find dates, why can't

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<v Speaker 4>they have sex with people? And there was this really

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<v Speaker 4>interesting part where Scott was talking about, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>a man doesn't live with a partner or have a

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<v Speaker 4>long term relationship by the time they're thirty, there is

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<v Speaker 4>a one in three chance that that person will experience

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<v Speaker 4>substance abuse issues. And Logan's rebuttal to that was, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that might be a statistic, but like, it's also not

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<v Speaker 4>a woman's role to have to emotionally raise men, so like,

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<v Speaker 4>how do we intervene? And I just found it one

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<v Speaker 4>of the most interesting and brilliant conversations. They are both

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<v Speaker 4>so incredibly intelligent, and I think that this is an episode.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only did I feel as though I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad I now know these things, but if

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<v Speaker 4>I was a parent of a boy, this is a must.

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<v Speaker 3>It is an absolute must for you to listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>But also the interesting thing about that as well, in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like men being more inclined if they've reached

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and not had a relationship with a woman, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be interested to know what the return statistics are that

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<v Speaker 1>are for women who reach thirty and haven't had a

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<v Speaker 1>significant relationship with a man. It's like the patriarchy affects

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<v Speaker 1>everyone you know negatively, but also I guess it's like

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<v Speaker 1>almost that there should be this expectation of not pity,

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<v Speaker 1>but like taking care of responsibility for and that just

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<v Speaker 1>seems so misplaced.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's interesting because there are obviously a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>problems that are happening with the rise of feminism and

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<v Speaker 4>the rights that women have gained, a lot of men

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<v Speaker 4>feel as though they don't have a purpose in the

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<v Speaker 4>world anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>They go through a lot of statistics about when women

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<v Speaker 4>earn more, when they're more educated, and like everything is

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<v Speaker 4>on the up and up, and Scott is the first

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<v Speaker 4>person to say that is brilliant.

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<v Speaker 3>We are not saying that this needs to change, but

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<v Speaker 3>we need.

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<v Speaker 4>To adapt other parts of society. How are we creating

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<v Speaker 4>connection for men? How are we creating men's groups, How

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<v Speaker 4>are we creating a sense of purpose? How are we

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<v Speaker 4>redefining what masculinity means?

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<v Speaker 3>How are we going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Fix this problem? Because we've got all of these really

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<v Speaker 4>massive issues at the moment, and he's not saying how

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<v Speaker 4>are women going to fix it? He's the first person

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<v Speaker 4>to say, how are men going to fix this? But

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<v Speaker 4>it's something that I think we all kind of need

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<v Speaker 4>to be aware of so that we can work out

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<v Speaker 4>ways that we are contributing to it. You know, there

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<v Speaker 4>were so many statistics about dating and relationships in this

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<v Speaker 4>where eighty percent of women will set their filters on

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<v Speaker 4>dating apps to be six foot and above, but that's

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<v Speaker 4>only fourteen percent of adult men. And so they were

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<v Speaker 4>talking about, you know, the top ten percent of men

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<v Speaker 4>on dating apps are getting ninety percent of the people.

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<v Speaker 3>Swiping right on the yes.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just it was absolutely fat. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the stat that's said in adolescents itself. He was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, only twenty percent of the I can't remember

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what it was, but something around the lines of

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<v Speaker 1>like only twenty percent of the men get like eighty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the women or something like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know, I think that that's the same On the

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<v Speaker 2>other side, I don't know how I feel about the stats,

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<v Speaker 2>because we were talking about how to mediocre men have

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<v Speaker 2>these ludicrously high standards and get these amazing women, Like

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<v Speaker 2>we had this whole conversation about it, not on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>so don't go back and look for that episode. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just a conversation between friends off the back of substack, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or it was off the back of a substack, was

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<v Speaker 2>it was an interesting conversation to have, and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>something that we do need to unpack more. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to listen to that episode and maybe we can all

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<v Speaker 2>unpack it because it sounds fascinating. But from what you've said,

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<v Speaker 2>like I feel like I have a strong visceral reaction

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<v Speaker 2>to some of the things you've said.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think maybe.

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<v Speaker 4>Something that we could potentially unpack on a future episode

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<v Speaker 4>is this idea of red pill men. It's a kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a term that's being thrown around a bit in

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<v Speaker 4>the culture, and it was thrown around in this episode.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I ended up going and googling it

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<v Speaker 4>because I didn't completely understand. But I think we would

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<v Speaker 4>all find it quite fascinating. And yeah, like I said,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a really long one. It's on YouTube, It's on

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<v Speaker 4>wherever you get your podcasts. It's the episode of Diary

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<v Speaker 4>of CEO Masculinity.

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<v Speaker 3>Debate with Prof. G Scott Galloway.

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<v Speaker 4>And Logan Yuri, and I cannot recommend it more awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I have an unsubscribe which comes very infrequently, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that we've been discussing here.

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<v Speaker 3>I am unsubscribing.

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<v Speaker 1>From April Fools Jokes and The reason why I'm unsubscribing

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<v Speaker 1>this year is because I feel like, maybe it's just me,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's my algorithm, but the increase in influences and

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<v Speaker 1>people working in media who have jumped on the April

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<v Speaker 1>Fools band, and I just find it a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit l I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry to anyone who works in me that I was

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<v Speaker 1>not pointed at any specific person.

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw a few of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I mean, your husband did do one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I pointed to him as well. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like a man describing my husband.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why I didn't like it because I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like it's in a way I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say lost its meaning, because that's not right. It

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<v Speaker 2>still has its meaning. I just don't like that. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of the day, I was so pissed

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<v Speaker 2>off that every single thing I saw on every single platform,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it was mainstream news, huge brands, small people, influences,

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<v Speaker 2>every single thing I saw. There was nothing that I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that was real, but I thought it was. And

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<v Speaker 2>by the end of the day, I just I was

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<v Speaker 2>just say angry. I was like, I'm just sick of

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<v Speaker 2>the internet.

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<v Speaker 3>Today.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I felt kind of different because I had seen

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<v Speaker 1>so many, and I instantly knew so many of them

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<v Speaker 1>were April Fools jokes, and maybe because we'd spoken about

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<v Speaker 1>it in the morning, so I was very.

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<v Speaker 3>Conscious that it was April Fools.

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<v Speaker 1>I just stopped engaging with social media that day because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not going to believe anything anything

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed like slightly exceptional or was like an announcement

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<v Speaker 1>or was a breakup post or Most of them are

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<v Speaker 1>harmless and I don't have like any strong feelings. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of a bit annoying. I'm like, ahah, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go again, another one.

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<v Speaker 3>But there were a couple that I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>One in particular, she is an influencer but also an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible entrepreneur who I follow online based out of America,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is I don't want to give the handle

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<v Speaker 1>away because I don't want to like start more of

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<v Speaker 1>a pilongs that's already happening. But basically, she's a real

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<v Speaker 1>advocate in the space for being childless by choice. Her

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<v Speaker 1>and her husband talk about it all the time, that

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<v Speaker 1>they've made really considered decisions around not wanting to have kids.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very vocal in that space, and then posted about

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<v Speaker 1>how her and her husband were having a baby, and

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<v Speaker 1>a few people in the comments were obviously like, is

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<v Speaker 1>this April Fools. A lot of people were congratulating, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I'd seen it and thought, if that's an April

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<v Speaker 1>Fool's stroke, that's a really bad one. Like that's like

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<v Speaker 1>one thing or one of many things you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>joke about. And she posted a photo of herself with

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<v Speaker 1>the caption saying I fucked up, and it set it

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<v Speaker 1>on the picture as well, and she was like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for so many years I've been asked around

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<v Speaker 1>whether I am or I'm not going to have children,

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<v Speaker 1>people of so publicly and quiet into my life and

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<v Speaker 1>my choices around around having kids, and I just never

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<v Speaker 1>thought that the alternate was that there are so many

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<v Speaker 1>women who want children and can't have them, and so

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<v Speaker 1>making a joke out of this would be tone deaf.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of in my like when I saw this, I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the responsibility. Like it's so great that people acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes April Fool's jokes are not funny because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not punching across they're just punching down on people.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like aren't we past the point where.

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<v Speaker 1>Things like this could even be thought of as being

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea for an April Fool's joke.

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<v Speaker 2>It does seem weird in twenty twenty five that we're

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<v Speaker 2>still doing the pregnancy jokes. Like maybe it's just been

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<v Speaker 2>the algorithms that we've watched over the years. There's been

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<v Speaker 2>many people the last five six years that have made

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<v Speaker 2>the mistake of doing that April Fool's joke, have learned

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<v Speaker 2>the dead lesson, and I felt like that was really public.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like by the time, how open we are

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<v Speaker 2>with the pregnancy discussions or the infertility discussions. And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't say weez in US, I see weez in a

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<v Speaker 2>society and online. You'd think people would have learned by

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<v Speaker 2>now that there are like a few no go zones

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<v Speaker 2>for April fools and that is absolutely like up there

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<v Speaker 2>with the top of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, obviously brands are all jumping on board. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>a big influencer thing at the moment. People have social

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<v Speaker 1>media profiles. I saw the increase this year than last

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<v Speaker 1>year and years in the past, and I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, next year, it's going to be something that

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<v Speaker 1>we see more and more of I just don't find

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<v Speaker 1>them particularly amusing. And maybe I'm on my own on that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to be a gringe, but I just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of was like, I'm bored by this.

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<v Speaker 4>I completely agree, and I think that as technology advances

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<v Speaker 4>with AI and the ability to create something that looks

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<v Speaker 4>super real, they're going to get more and more extreme and.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to look more and more real.

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<v Speaker 4>And like, I know that I'm probably taking this a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit too seriously, but for me looking at social

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<v Speaker 4>media yesterday and how believable some of the things were,

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<v Speaker 4>it was that reminder to myself that I'm like, wow,

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<v Speaker 4>we actually can be fed so much bullshit, deceived and

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<v Speaker 4>not so easily. Some brands did it, and the jokes

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<v Speaker 4>were funny, you know. I saw Shopo created a glow

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<v Speaker 4>in the dark dress for your friend that you always

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<v Speaker 4>lose in the club so that you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 4>find them.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Hilaire, in line with what they do. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>hurt anybody, like say, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very much like you said, I think the big

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<v Speaker 1>part of that is it's in line with the brand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's when people do things that's really rogue and outside

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<v Speaker 1>of like what their core values are.

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<v Speaker 2>Or believable, like really believable in the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then turn around and go psych that's not

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<v Speaker 1>us anyway. It's like, but why for what point? I

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<v Speaker 1>like that one because I think it's very much in line.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm just not an April Fools person the end.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's get into the questions question number one.

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<v Speaker 2>I've freshly started dating again, but after being treated pretty

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<v Speaker 2>poorly in my last relationship, I'm unfortunately a bit scared

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<v Speaker 2>and always preemptively looking for reasons why a relationship won't

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<v Speaker 2>work out, sometimes before we even have a first date.

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<v Speaker 2>That my friend is called self sabotage. One thing I

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<v Speaker 2>find really strange is men who have quite public profiles

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<v Speaker 2>on social media and are very into creating and curating

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<v Speaker 2>photos and content. It's weird because the traits I am

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<v Speaker 2>attracted to, which is like motivated, inspired, outgoing active, tend

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<v Speaker 2>to be the kind who posts a lot on social media.

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<v Speaker 2>So it does feel like some thing I might need

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<v Speaker 2>to get over. But I wonder how Laura found navigating

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<v Speaker 2>her relationship in the public eye at first, and if

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<v Speaker 2>she ever felt the ick from any of Matt's posts

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<v Speaker 2>when they originally started dating. Basically, she's saying she's got

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<v Speaker 2>the ick from men that she's dating that are like

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<v Speaker 2>influences that are like, hey, can you take this photo

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<v Speaker 2>of me here? And I'm going to do this and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to look away, and like the very curated

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram influencer photos is what's giving her the ear.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess, well, firstly, I don't think Matt's Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>is particularly curated, Like he's not really the type of

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<v Speaker 1>person that's posting hot photos. If anything, it's like dumb,

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<v Speaker 1>funny content. But he's had a real transition in his

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<v Speaker 1>content because when we first started dating, he was more

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<v Speaker 1>of your traditional influencer. I guess we're both trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, like what was Instagram to us as people

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<v Speaker 1>who had never used it before but now had a

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<v Speaker 1>social media following. And I think it's an interesting one

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel like social media we are very gendered

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<v Speaker 1>with it, and it's exactly I think that this is

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<v Speaker 1>point and case an affirmation of that we're okay with

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<v Speaker 1>women doing it, but we don't like men doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>With women being influencers, we find it weird when mental

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<v Speaker 1>influencers we don't quite understand. And I don't mean this

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<v Speaker 1>just as in like women having that perspective of men

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<v Speaker 1>who post, men also have that perspective of other men

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<v Speaker 1>who post. And I honestly couldn't tell you the amount

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<v Speaker 1>of times where like we've left a party or a

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<v Speaker 1>dinner or Matt meeting new people and he's been like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard for me to explain to people what

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<v Speaker 1>I do for a job, and so I always just

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<v Speaker 1>fall back on the podcast and say, oh, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast, Go.

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<v Speaker 3>Two dotting dads.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he doesn't make his majority income through the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He makes his majority income as a content creator working

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<v Speaker 1>alongside brands. But most people, especially other men, don't understand.

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<v Speaker 1>They cannot wrap their head around a man doing that

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<v Speaker 1>for an income. And I think it's because traditionally the

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<v Speaker 1>world of social media has been very much reserved for

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<v Speaker 1>women and how we use it.

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<v Speaker 3>Did he give me the ick? No, he doesn't give

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<v Speaker 3>me the ick at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think it's incredibly creative how he's able to

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<v Speaker 1>use it. He doesn't care about like what people say

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<v Speaker 1>in and if anything, he has very funny come back

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<v Speaker 1>and witty responses to things when people write stuff that's

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<v Speaker 1>quite mean, Matt never retaliates in a way that has venom.

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<v Speaker 1>He always retaliates in a way that's very, very self

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<v Speaker 1>deprecating and really joking. And I think that that's such

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful quality because sometimes I react in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that's like, hey, screw you, how dare you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that this is something that you should

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<v Speaker 1>get over. I mean, obviously there's a limit to it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some people that post every single part of their

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<v Speaker 1>lives and they post things that are just incredibly cringe.

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<v Speaker 1>We've all seen the person who's hogged at the sunset.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you've been on holidays a sunset no, I mean this.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember being on holidays in Bali, sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>nice restaurant and this one couple just took four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>photos of themselves literally blocking everybody else's beautiful view of

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<v Speaker 1>the sunset because they were taking social media content.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, that is I mean, it's so annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>That is annoying. I want to take away for that

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<v Speaker 3>would give me the oic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, taking away from the fact firstly that the that

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting these content creation is an ick whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>If you get an ick from something it's pretty hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get over. So your ick is a guy that

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<v Speaker 2>creates too much content. Firstly, if you can get over that, great,

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't, don't date someone that is in content creation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I want to say, but that I do

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<v Speaker 2>feel you in a way, so and I say that

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes you can't help it. But I remember and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you guys, remember I was dating this

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<v Speaker 2>guy a couple of years ago, very briefly.

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<v Speaker 5>His content was cringe, but it was like, hang on

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<v Speaker 5>even talking about the same person are but he was great,

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<v Speaker 5>but he was very He definitely had this life on

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<v Speaker 5>social media that he was trying to present himself a

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<v Speaker 5>certain way, which is I don't have a problem with it,

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<v Speaker 5>but I had the problem with how much it meant

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<v Speaker 5>to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I say how much it meant to him,

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<v Speaker 2>it's because it was things like I remember he would

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<v Speaker 2>do really nice, lovely things for me, which was great,

0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 2>and he was a really nice person. But then and

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I'll use the example of like he sent me this beautiful,

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 2>big bunch of flowers and it was lovely, and then

0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.040
<v Speaker 2>he came over and he was like, do you love them?

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I love them? So much. They

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 2>are stunning. It was something like a hundred like it

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>was one hundred roses or something.

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 3>It was huge.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 2>It would have cost him a lot. We hung out

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:07.800
<v Speaker 2>for a couple of hours and then he was like,

0:28:07.840 --> 0:28:10.960
<v Speaker 2>are you going to post that? And that was the

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 2>moment literally, and I don't even know if he remembers it,

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.560
<v Speaker 2>but that was the moment in me where I was like, Oh,

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>your life isn't real, Like you didn't actually want to

0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 2>give me those because you want to give me them.

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:24.960
<v Speaker 2>You wanted to make a moment that you could post

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 2>on social media. And that was the moment where I

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, Okay, cool, we have very different ideas around

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:31.240
<v Speaker 2>our lives and our private lives.

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 3>And you're like, and I'm also not ready to go

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:33.679
<v Speaker 3>public with you, so no.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:36.040
<v Speaker 2>And I was like and I was like, I was like, yeah,

0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I might post some Yeah.

0:28:38.120 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 4>Do you know what this reminds me though, of that

0:28:39.600 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 4>really good quote. There's a big difference between doing things

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 4>in your life and posting it on social media versus

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 4>doing things in your life so that you.

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Can post it on social media. Yeah, really really different intention.

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 4>And I think that's why you were like, Oh, the

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 4>intention here is really different.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it comes down to authenticity though, right, Like,

0:28:57.840 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>if you meet a guy and he's super out, goal

0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's you know, motivated, inspired, active, all these things

0:29:03.920 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>that you mentioned that you like in someone and he

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>posts on social media, if is his authentic version. I

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 1>hate that word, but it's true. If he's authentically himself

0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>on social media and also is the same person in

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.040
<v Speaker 1>real life, then I don't think you'll get the ick

0:29:18.120 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 1>because I think that you'll be like, oh, it's so

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 1>congruent with the person he is that it's kind of

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>just like an extension of his personality. But if he's

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>posting things and you look at it and you're like,

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, you're a fucking try hard, like, that's

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 1>a very different perception. My only thing I do want

0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>to say is is like, it's so obvious that you're

0:29:34.720 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>trying to pick apart and look for things that you

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>don't like in someone. You even said, unfortunately, I'm a

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>bit scared and always premptively looking for reasons why relationship

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>won't work out, even before the first date. I do

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 1>think that that's something that you probably have to recognize

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in yourself, and if you're getting the dick too, easily. Yes,

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:52.680
<v Speaker 1>it's easy for us to say, well, when you got

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the ick, you got the ick, but you can't get

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the ick about everything and you do have to work

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>on that. If that's the case, and power through it,

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I think totally.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 2>But I also think it comes down to in these situations,

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>like how much does it take over their life? Are

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you going somewhere and he's like, Hey, this looks like

0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 2>it'd be a great post. Can you get a picture

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 2>of me there? You get the picture and it's done.

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 2>You get a picture of the food and it's done.

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Or is he the four hundred person at the sunset?

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 2>But is he the person that.

0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Like the sunset hog? I would get the ick.

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:20.800
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent if my partner was like, you take

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>some photos of me here then came over and was like,

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>oh take them better, goes back, goes back. If this

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>was going on for forty five minutes, I'd be like,

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>this isn't the life I want to live. But if

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>he's happy to get his content and be like this

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:31.720
<v Speaker 2>is this would be cool. Let's make a great post.

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's do this and then it's done, And then he

0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 2>doesn't sit there and look at his phone and edit

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>his photos and edit the videos over dinner, and if

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:40.240
<v Speaker 2>it's not consuming his whole life, then yeah, get over it.

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 1>But if it is, it's interesting, isn't it, though, Because

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>like that's what a lot of women do, Like a

0:30:45.200 --> 0:30:47.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of women do that for their social media profile.

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent. But I wouldn't want to be in

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a relationship with that woman either. So if you're both

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>two content creators that want to go take your photos

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 2>and videos and then sit down at dinner and edit together,

0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.880
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing wrong with that, but you both have to

0:30:57.920 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>just be on board with it.

0:30:58.720 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I think I'm a hypocrite with this because my boyfriend

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.440
<v Speaker 4>hasn't posted on Instagram since like twenty twenty one or

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 4>something that's hot, and I've this is whenever I say

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 4>that to people, like to other women, to other girls,

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 4>they're like, oh, that's such a green flag, and I agree.

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 3>And yet I'm here being like.

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 4>Post post post post post, post, my upfits, post everything.

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:22.240
<v Speaker 4>And I realize that it's hypocritical because I have different

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.000
<v Speaker 4>standards for what I want in a partner.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 3>To what I actually put out. But I will.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Admit it really was something that made me attracted to

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 4>him because I was like cool, you don't care about that,

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 4>you don't feel the need to get validation through people

0:31:33.360 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 4>on Instagram like must be nice?

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you did ask one more question, and

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 1>this is does having an Instagram slash TikTok presence imply

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:43.160
<v Speaker 1>anything about someone that I should avoid?

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:44.720
<v Speaker 5>No.

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people use social media now

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>for many many reasons. I think what we've established is

0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 1>that it's how they engage with their social media. I

0:31:53.000 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>don't think that someone having you know, a following or

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>posting what they're doing in their day, so long as

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.640
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't consume their life is a big deal. The

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>only time when I would disagree with that is when

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>it is their job. So like for Matt, it is

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>his job. He spends a lot of time creating content

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>for social media, but he gets paid to do so.

0:32:11.400 --> 0:32:12.840
<v Speaker 1>And so at the same way that a lot of

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 1>people spend time at their physical work working at nine

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 1>to five, he has allocated time for writing content, coming

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>up with skits, filming skits, like he has designated work

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>hours that he does that for And so I can't

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>turn around and be like, oh god, he spends so

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>much time on social media I'm like, it's his.

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Job, but it also doesn't imply anything. Having an Instagram

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 2>and a TikTok that's literally every single person. It's almost

0:32:35.000 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 2>a red flag. If someone doesn't, you're like, what are

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:37.080
<v Speaker 2>you hiding?

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what do you got?

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:41.760
<v Speaker 2>But like, having someone that has social media is absolutely

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>not a red flag because it's every person. You're a

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:46.640
<v Speaker 2>minority if you don't have it.

0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, I agree, all right. Question two. I've

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 3>been with my husband for three years.

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:52.320
<v Speaker 1>A couple of years ago, he opened up to me

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:56.560
<v Speaker 1>about enjoying prostate stimulation and told me he never told

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>anyone or done it with any partner before. He said

0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't comfortable doing it with me at the time. Now,

0:33:03.080 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a little while later, he told me he decided that

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>he was ready to give it a crack.

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I was crack. He was ready for me to put

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 3>it up the crack.

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I was really happy that he felt comfortable and was

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>really open to doing anything that made sex even better

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>for him. He said he'd like to go to a

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>sex shop to buy a toy, but I didn't push that.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>Last night, when we were having sex, he suddenly brought

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>out quite a large dildo. I'm talking like six inches

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and a replica of a penis and balls. I was

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 1>quite taken aback as there wasn't much warning, but I

0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>was still okay with him to use it while we

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>had sex. Afterwards, he told me he went by himself

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to buy it a couple of weeks ago because he

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:45.480
<v Speaker 1>felt more comfortable going into a sex shop without me,

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>and he was open about trying it out a couple

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of times by himself first. There is a lot I'd

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like to ask him about, like why would he select

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>a dildo that is really phallic as opposed to like

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>an anal plug or just a plain dildo. But even

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>asking him about when he bought it made him really shy,

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to undo any of the progress

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>he's made to do something that I imagine would have been

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>difficult for him. What would you do in this situation?

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't think this situation has to be a big

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 2>deal at all. Obviously he's quite shy and reserved, but

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 2>he's come out to you saying like, hey, I want

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to try something new, which I think is great. He

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 2>has been open about the fact that he felt more

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.480
<v Speaker 2>comfortable buying it on his own he's tried out in

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 2>his own I also think that he is okay, like

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>it's okay for people to masturbate and do what they

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 2>want in private, and maybe he wanted to make sure

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 2>he liked it before he introduced it to you and

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 2>had further conversations. Would I personally find it strange if

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>my partner not wanted to try butt stuff, that's fine.

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.200
<v Speaker 2>But if my partner wanted to try it with a

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>replica of a penis as opposed like a big six

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 2>inch as opposed to starting with the butt plugs and

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.800
<v Speaker 2>smaller things, would I have questions? Absolutely? But it doesn't

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 2>have to be negative questions, and it doesn't have to

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 2>be like accusatory. It's just a conversation. And you said

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 2>you're curious. He's your husband. You can have those conversations.

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.359
<v Speaker 2>I'd just be saying, why did you go for this?

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever tried butt plugs first? Have you other

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:11.319
<v Speaker 2>other things you want to try in this situation, Even

0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:14.200
<v Speaker 2>if he's shy, that's not a reason to not have

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 2>a conversation. You're married to the guy that has gone

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>out and bought a six inch dick with balls. It's

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 2>okay to ask, like it's okay. I don't think it's like,

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I fully agree.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I also think it's not an indicator of something to

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>be worried about, because, like, I think a lot of

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>people listening or like the reading between the lines is like, oh, like,

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>does that indicate that maybe he's bisexual, or that he

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.240
<v Speaker 1>likes you know, that he's maybe wanting to do other things.

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I think he just likes butt play, and he probably

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows. Maybe it's a fetish, maybe it's

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>something that he finds super attractive.

0:35:46.239 --> 0:35:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Obviously he does. I think it's okay to ask questions.

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>I think it's okay to be like, hey, it does

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>feel a little bit like we went from zero to

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 1>one hundred. Is there any sort of like, you know one,

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>what do you like?

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 3>What don't you like?

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Is there a specific reason why this is more referred

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.600
<v Speaker 1>for you or feels better for you? I think you

0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>can have those conversations, because, like, if he's been comfortable

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 1>enough to bring it to you, if he's been comfortable

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 1>enough to try it and to talk about trying it,

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 1>it does sound like he's been pretty damn open with you,

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and so as much as like you don't want to

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 1>make him shy. There probably are questions that you feel

0:36:17.080 --> 0:36:19.359
<v Speaker 1>a bit embarrassed or uncomfortable to ask as well, because

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>it does sound like he is being really open and honest.

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.600
<v Speaker 1>And I keep coming back to it, is that is

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.359
<v Speaker 1>this like fear that she must be feeling around like, well,

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.280
<v Speaker 1>where did this come from? And I guess like maybe

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 1>ask yourself. Yes, you might have curiosities around some of

0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:34.040
<v Speaker 1>the questions that you want to ask, But what are

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you going to do with the answers or the outcome?

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Like if he's like, oh, yeah, I've been using butt

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>plugs for the last five years, what difference is that

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 1>going to make to you?

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 3>Like is that going to make you upset? Is that

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 3>going to make you feel validated?

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 3>What will that do?

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, even if he has or he hasn't been,

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, now you know that that's something he

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>wants to incorporate into his sex life, Like is it

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>a big deal for you? And I guess like, only

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you can answer that question.

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:56.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it has to be a big deal.

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:58.879
<v Speaker 2>I think it's just important to know if three years

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:02.440
<v Speaker 2>in the relationship, currently being pleasuring himself in a way

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>that you had no idea about it's just information. Information

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 2>is knowledge and power. And for me, he has told

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>you that he enjoys it. It's not abnormal for a

0:37:12.400 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>man to enjoy the prostate stimulation, like that's that is

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 2>very enjoyable.

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Fine, Yeah, And I don't think it's that. I think

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 1>that it's the reaction to the object he's chosen. I

0:37:20.960 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>think that's like, yeah, I think it's like, Okay, of

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>all the things that you could choose if you're into

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 1>butt play, there is something that probably for her feels

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a bit intimidating by it being a replica of a penis. Yeah,

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and there is far more implications in that that probably

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>makes her be like, Okay, is this a conversation we

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 1>need to have?

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 3>And that's where I feel like this question is circling.

0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 4>Do you think it also could be that because it

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 4>does seem like quite a jump. I think naturally you

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:52.760
<v Speaker 4>would have a bit of a question of like, Okay,

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 4>well I didn't I didn't know about any of the

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 4>steps that kind of happened in between here, So is

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 4>there other things that I.

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Don't know about totally?

0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 4>You know, like, and I don't think that I don't

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 4>think you've been at all judgmental. I don't think that

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 4>having that as a natural curiosity is a particularly judgmental thing.

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 3>I think it's just.

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.160
<v Speaker 4>Quite a normal feeling to be like, oh, I've just

0:38:11.200 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 4>found out this thing that I feel like is quite

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 4>far down the line in terms of this compared to

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 4>where I thought things were. Maybe there's other things I

0:38:20.520 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know about, so maybe asking those questions actually will

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 4>validate you in a sense where it's just like, Okay,

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 4>now I feel a little bit more like there's less

0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 4>question marks around other things. And I'm not implying that

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.760
<v Speaker 4>he's been doing anything dodgy. It's just I can understand

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 4>why you would feel a little bit confronted. I also

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 4>think that if we flipped this and let's say, like

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 4>a lot of women like to incorporate vibrates into the bedroom,

0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 4>but if you had said, in a while, I would

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 4>like to incorporate a vibrator or something like that, and

0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 4>then all of a sudden, you turned up, however, far

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 4>in the future, and you had a twelve inch vibrating.

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Huge phallic object that would probably.

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 4>Be intimidating to the other partner, you know, Like, I

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.680
<v Speaker 4>think that it's it's also based off of the type

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 4>of toy. And I'm not saying that there's anything wrong

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 4>with that. If that's what you want to do, that's fine,

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 4>And we wouldn't judge the fact that maybe you'd use

0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.480
<v Speaker 4>smaller vibrators on yourself. But I think that we have

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.359
<v Speaker 4>to be reasonable about how to we get from ada Z. Yeah,

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:14.480
<v Speaker 4>and like what we're expecting the partner to react, you know,

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 4>Like I would find that a bit of like a

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 4>oh okay, I just feel like I've gone from being

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, in year one to being in year twelve.

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:24.120
<v Speaker 3>That's going from year one to pegging him like a ten. Yeah,

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 4>Like, I think the advancement of it is what would

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 4>probably put me on the back foot a little bit,

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 4>like wow, okay, this kind of came out of nowhere.

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>It's definitely the size and the phallicness when there were

0:39:34.480 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 2>other choices. That's the thing that's taken by the surprise.

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 2>She's known for years, three years that he likes butt play.

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 2>He's always said that, but he never wanted to bring

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.440
<v Speaker 2>it in. So I think she probably assumed butt play

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:45.799
<v Speaker 2>was a butt plug or something smaller. So when a big,

0:39:45.840 --> 0:39:46.759
<v Speaker 2>giant penis came out.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.319
<v Speaker 3>She was like, just wasn't expecting it.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think it's one hundred percent okay for you

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>to be like, hey, just wasn't expecting it. Let's chat

0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:55.359
<v Speaker 2>about it, like that's that's so fine, but let us.

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 3>Know that after my FID, I know I need to know.

0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, next quest I need to know, is this the

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 1>biggest of toys that he whipped out first?

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 3>Imagine if there's more.

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.000
<v Speaker 2>That's him starting smaller, if he started.

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 3>From the bottom he was like I did start. He's like,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 3>I did start little. That's my smallest one. All right?

0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:13.520
<v Speaker 2>How much should I take into account my partner's parents

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.439
<v Speaker 2>in my relationship. I love my partner and I feel

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:19.200
<v Speaker 2>like he is the one, but I'm concerned about his father,

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 2>who is very close with and we see often. My

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:26.280
<v Speaker 2>partner's father is a misogynist, constantly making derogatory comments about women.

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>He supports Trump, he says things about being homophobic, and

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 2>he comments on people's bodies and wait quite a lot.

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.680
<v Speaker 2>This is particularly triggering for me as I have struggled

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:37.760
<v Speaker 2>with an eating disorder in the past. My partner doesn't

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 2>make these comments, but when his dad says these things,

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.880
<v Speaker 2>he also doesn't respond, and that's what bothers me. He

0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 2>never brings it up with me afterwards either, So I'm

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.239
<v Speaker 2>worried my partner might have similar views deep down because

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.399
<v Speaker 2>that's how he's been raised. But I'm scared to bring

0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 2>it up because he is so close to his dad.

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 2>They're a big Greek family. I don't want to be offensive.

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Am I overthinking it? What should I do? What would

0:40:58.520 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 2>you do?

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>This is a tricky one because I mean, obviously you

0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>don't want to just rule out your boyfriend because his

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>parent is problematic. But I think it's important to have

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>conversations with your boyfriend to figure out if his views

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 1>are the same, because then that will be a really

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 1>key sign and a key indicator. I think there are

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that are close to their parents,

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.360
<v Speaker 1>but they don't necessarily agree with their parents, or agree

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>with the things and the political views or the perspectives

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 1>of their parents, even though they can love them and

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 1>have a good relationship with them. So for me, if

0:41:27.120 --> 0:41:28.759
<v Speaker 1>I was in this situation, I think the very first

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 1>thing I would do would be to have conversations with

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>him to really drill down. Okay, well, what is it

0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>that you think of women? What is it that you

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>think of racism?

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 3>What is it like?

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Where do our values align? And it sounds like you

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 1>actually aren't sure yet whether your values and your boyfriend's

0:41:43.200 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>values are aligned. I don't know how long you've been

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 1>dating for. It may be an early relationship and he

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:51.400
<v Speaker 1>might still be on best behavior with you because he

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.120
<v Speaker 1>might be trying to present himself as a version of

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:58.279
<v Speaker 1>himself that you will like. So that's why it's so

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>important to have these conversations, especially after his dad has

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>done things and said things and shown a version that

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.759
<v Speaker 1>you just don't like and don't accept. Definitely, don't think

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 1>that you should rule out being in a relationship with

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>someone just because their parents sucks, you know, because we're

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>not always a direct reflection about parents.

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I think you're overthinking, you've said them overthinking. You're absolutely

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 2>overthinking whether you can have this chat to him about it.

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>That's the number one thing you should chat about. If

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:26.120
<v Speaker 2>his dad says something horrific or derogatory or homophobic at

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 2>the dinner table, you go home and you say, hey,

0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:29.759
<v Speaker 2>what did you think when your dad said this? What

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 2>do you think about that? That is an absolutely baseline

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.760
<v Speaker 2>normal discussion for me, and I think if you're worried

0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 2>about being offensive, which you have said, then that's not

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the relationship for you, because I wouldn't be in a

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:47.360
<v Speaker 2>relationship if my partner's family were making racist, homophobic jokes

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 2>constantly and my partner agreed with those. You don't have

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>to have a partner that goes up against his family.

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>That is fine, but you need to know where he stands,

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 2>like you don't want to cause a rift where he

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>has to sit there and fight them at the dinner table.

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.239
<v Speaker 2>It might be something he's been battling for a long time.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:03.440
<v Speaker 2>He knows he's going to disagree with them, so they

0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 2>just let it slide. That's fine, but you have to

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 2>make sure that you align on those views or the

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 2>relationship isn't going to go anywhere you've said you think

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 2>he's the one, You can't know he's the one if

0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 2>you haven't had the conversation, if your morals aligned yet.

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I truly believe that.

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I also think I know you say you

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>don't want to make anything uncomfortable. I actually would question,

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and maybe it would be good to like have a

0:43:23.880 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>little think about it. I question whether it's about making

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>things uncomfortable or whether you're worried about getting an answer

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't like because that's a very different response. Right,

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.479
<v Speaker 1>So are you scared to bring this up in case

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>your partner says, oh, you're overreacting. Dad's great, Like, there's

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.440
<v Speaker 1>nothing what he said is fine, because that means you

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>have to do something. That means you have to actually

0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>consider that maybe your values don't align. So that's going

0:43:46.600 --> 0:43:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to be real uncomfortable for everyone because you'll have to

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>take action. I really, and this is not just for

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>this question. This is for everyone, Like, don't avoid hard

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.359
<v Speaker 1>conversations that are going to get you to your end

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:01.520
<v Speaker 1>destination faster, because it's either going to mean your relationship

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.000
<v Speaker 1>is rock solid and you know that they're the one,

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>you don't just think that they're the one, or it's

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>going to show you that actually your values are not

0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 1>aligned and you're wasting time with someone who in five years,

0:44:12.160 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 1>six years time, you're going to realize is misogynistic, supports

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.399
<v Speaker 1>people that you don't support, thinks it's okay to make

0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.399
<v Speaker 1>jokes about people's bodies and weights when that's something that's

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>really struggled and has been like really triggering for you.

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Like there's so many parts of this that I think

0:44:26.560 --> 0:44:29.320
<v Speaker 1>like finding out sooner rather than later is really important.

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:32.719
<v Speaker 1>The other thing, though, is if your partner knows that

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>eating disorders and conversations around weight is something that is

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 1>triggering for you, if you've had that conversation with him,

0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>then I do think that that is something he probably

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.560
<v Speaker 1>should stand up to his dad about and not in

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>front of you, but just say hey, dad, like, this

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:47.319
<v Speaker 1>is a really tricky thing for if you can be

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a bit more sensitive about way because it's something that's

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:51.760
<v Speaker 1>been like a really really hard thing in her life.

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 1>That is a considered response of a partner who cares

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 1>about your feelings. And I think, you know, don't write

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 1>off the relationship until you know, but don't be fearful

0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:01.839
<v Speaker 1>of asking the questions that will allow you to really

0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>understand and get closer to your partner. I think it's

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 1>really important. Okay, next question, how soon is too soon?

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I came out of a six year relationship with my ex.

0:45:10.280 --> 0:45:12.600
<v Speaker 1>We ended on good terms as it was a mutually

0:45:12.640 --> 0:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>agreed thing and things weren't working out.

0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:17.520
<v Speaker 3>He is definitely more upset.

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 1>About it than I am, though I've known for over

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 1>a year that we should end it, but was holding

0:45:21.960 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 1>on hope that things would improve. Now, one month on

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.880
<v Speaker 1>from our breakup, I met someone who I've instantly clicked

0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>with and I get the feeling he is the one.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.839
<v Speaker 1>But is it too soon? Should I take more time

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.319
<v Speaker 1>to heal and move on? I was not expecting to

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:37.920
<v Speaker 1>find someone so soon, and I met this guy completely

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.799
<v Speaker 1>by accident. I had no intention of seeing anyone so soon.

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>No one ever felt so perfect for me, though. But

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm really worried it's happening so fast after my breakup.

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 2>It's way too soon.

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 3>You never know. Bullshit? You know what I say?

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:55.240
<v Speaker 2>It is not too soon to date. No, that's fine.

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>You can date the week after, especially like when you've

0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:01.120
<v Speaker 2>checked out this relationship earlier. But after six years with someone,

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:05.320
<v Speaker 2>you've just met someone and one month in you're saying

0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 2>that they're the one. That is too soon? And now

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 2>it is someone that has fallen in love with someone

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 2>over a weekend. I will say that I didn't say

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.479
<v Speaker 2>he was but I didn't say he was the one

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 2>after a week and I didn't come out of a

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 2>six year relationship. There are definitely some feelings that you

0:46:17.800 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 2>may not have processed after a six year relationship. YEA

0:46:21.480 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 2>and quite often. We can hold on to something very

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 2>quickly when it feels amazing. This would feel amazing. It's

0:46:28.760 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 2>something new after being with someone for six years, it's

0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 2>something new.

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 3>It's so early.

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<v Speaker 2>There's chemistry, there's attraction, there's things that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>feel I imagine your last relationship the last few years

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 2>probably felt a little bit dead, dry and boring. You

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<v Speaker 2>checked out. It was long term. This is going to

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<v Speaker 2>feel amazing. People are on their best behavior on the

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 2>first month, definitely the honeymoon stage. Chemistry can lie. We

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 2>know that go forth date this person if you want to,

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<v Speaker 2>but don't go and date them with intention that they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the one. That's what I would say now,

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<v Speaker 2>I would just not lock yourself into something too soon.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely would try and hook up with some other

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<v Speaker 2>people in the interim, just to like get some stuff

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<v Speaker 2>out of your system in case this person is the

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<v Speaker 2>one and then you're locked down for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>your life.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think, slow it down, you've said, as it

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.880
<v Speaker 1>moving too fast. Yes, pump the brakes, pump the breaks.

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 1>You're in control of the speed of their You can

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<v Speaker 1>go on one day to week, or one day to

0:47:20.880 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>fortnite or you know, I think it's very easy when

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<v Speaker 1>you spent six years with someone and then not be

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>alone at all, to instantly replace them with someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's almost the definition of monkey branching, just straight

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<v Speaker 1>into the next exciting, big thing that comes along.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it common? I mean a lot of people know

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>People monkey branch, and in my experience, it doesn't work

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<v Speaker 1>out well. It's very exciting for a short period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know you haven't resolved or fixed the

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 1>things that you wanted to fix or the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even necessarily figured.

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<v Speaker 3>Out what's the right type of person for you.

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.000
<v Speaker 1>And you've just done six years in a relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who ended up not being the right person for you.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a really long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's been four weeks, yeah, twenty eight days.

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 3>I was twenty eight days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would say, And you've only been broken up

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<v Speaker 1>for four weeks, which means you didn't meet him, you

0:48:07.280 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 1>haven't even known him for four weeks. I would say,

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>if you're having feelings of like this person could be

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<v Speaker 1>the one to me, that's an alarm bell and that's

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<v Speaker 1>a red flag. That's not an indicator that this is

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily a good idea. I'm not saying don't explore it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to deny those excitement and the butterflies

0:48:26.960 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and everything else when you met someone new. Absolutely explore it,

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.600
<v Speaker 1>but explore it with your eyes wide open to what

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:33.160
<v Speaker 1>it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>And also just slow it down.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:38.759
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to go straight into a full time relationship,

0:48:38.800 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>which is something that we can often be guilty of

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 1>doing when we've come out of a full on relationship

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.920
<v Speaker 1>because we only know how to operate in full monogamy

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:49.399
<v Speaker 1>and commitment. That's not how you have to be now.

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.640
<v Speaker 1>You don't know this person, you don't owe them anything.

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.239
<v Speaker 1>You can just calm it. I also get down to

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<v Speaker 1>the dating level, not to the instant relationship level, the

0:48:57.120 --> 0:48:57.760
<v Speaker 1>one level.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, to the one level. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think if you have said quote should I

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:06.000
<v Speaker 2>take more time to move on, that means that you

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.319
<v Speaker 2>haven't moved on yet. So the answer is yes, you

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 2>don't need to be fully moved on and heal to date,

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 2>not just to go out and enjoy it, to hook up,

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 2>have sex, have situationships.

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:17.319
<v Speaker 3>You can.

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:20.040
<v Speaker 2>I believe you can do that simultaneously. Sometimes it helps

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you to move on. But I think trying to get

0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 2>into a relationship with someone a couple of weeks after

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:26.960
<v Speaker 2>that you think is the one. If you haven't healed

0:49:27.000 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>and moved on, that is a recipe for disaster. I

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.720
<v Speaker 2>do think you need to be ready for a proper

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 2>relationship with somebody that you think is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>your person forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there are people who have gotten out

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<v Speaker 1>of a relationship, met someone really soon, and then they're

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<v Speaker 1>with them for forever.

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, to be fair, I think my sister

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 3>is kind of a version of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it happened, and it happens, and this could

0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:51.040
<v Speaker 1>be the case, but it's going to be the case

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of speed, Like it'll be the case even if

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<v Speaker 1>you slow things down or don't slow things down. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think, like, give yourself some buffer so that you're

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>not going headfirst into some and then getting so deep

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<v Speaker 1>and so caught up in the emotion of it that

0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't make sensible decisions. And also, it's not like

0:50:07.560 --> 0:50:09.840
<v Speaker 1>you owe your ex partner anything. I know that you

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 1>guys are obviously separated. You can do whatever you want,

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but like do it with some kindness, you know, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I do think that there is a

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:20.799
<v Speaker 1>kind way of navigating post breakup, and then there's a

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 1>really selfish and hurtful way of navigating post breakup. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think like flaunting a new relationship four weeks after

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<v Speaker 1>a six year, long term, committed relationship would be incredibly hurtful,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I would say, do it all with kindness.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to do that for forever. But like

0:50:38.360 --> 0:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>this is, you're in like the red hot zone post breakup.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have been with him more than two or

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:44.160
<v Speaker 2>three weeks because there's only been a month since you

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<v Speaker 2>broke up then you met him.

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<v Speaker 3>Unless he was the reason that the breakup actually kept year.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't expecting to find someone so soon after I

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<v Speaker 2>met him completely by accent you just to say, no

0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 2>one ever felt so perfect for me. You truly, I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't care what anyone's says. It is impossible to

0:51:01.520 --> 0:51:06.600
<v Speaker 2>know someone wholeheartedly after two weeks. They're just not their

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.080
<v Speaker 2>honest version of themselves. That's not to say he is

0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:11.399
<v Speaker 2>not the most incredible person, but you haven't gone through

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the process yet. You haven't seen how they argue. You

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:15.760
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen how they are with their family. You probably

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 2>haven't got the bottom of to their morals or seen

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 2>how they treat other people in their life. There are

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 2>so many things that you don't know about a person.

0:51:22.480 --> 0:51:24.319
<v Speaker 2>You can know enough to know the feeling is good

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:26.479
<v Speaker 2>and you're like, oh, there could definitely be something here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do reckon that you need to slow it down.

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<v Speaker 2>Continue to date him for sure. Like the feeling is there,

0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 2>that is absolutely fine, but just do it without the

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<v Speaker 2>pressure and the expectation of him being the one.

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<v Speaker 3>Just go forth with caution, everybody. And that's it from us, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I'm going to Italy to see Bann in

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<v Speaker 2>two days time. Whoo.

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<v Speaker 3>How excited are you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yep?

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<v Speaker 3>Brittany and Italy is coming here next week anyway, guys.

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