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On today's podcast, I have 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.200 special guest Alex Williams, the actor tasked with the intimidating 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.320 honor of playing Shane Warn in the mini series Warning. 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:53.280 The two part series Warning will air over two nights 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.639 on Sunday, the twenty fifth of June at seven pm 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:59.120 and Monday, June twenty sixth that's seven thirty pm obviously 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.200 on Channel nine. Nine to Now Warney looks back at 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.880 the life and times of cricketing legend Shane Warn and 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.280 I will say this is not just for cricket fans. 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.319 Williams is no stranger to portraying real life personalities with 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.880 his credits including the role of Julia Nassage in Underground 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:18.000 and Perk Pennigilly in Never Tear Us Apart the Untold 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:21.479 Story of Inexcess. I should probably address that there has 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:23.640 been a lot of controversial opinions in the media this 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:26.399 week and I did choose to not mention Simone or 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:28.880 her children as I just didn't think it was fair 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:32.440 on them or really Alex. I will talk to Alex 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.920 though about his decision to take on this iconic role, 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.640 and if this mini series is a little bit too soon, 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:40.520 you will get a chance to hear how Alex created 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.800 the essence of Shane Warn and how we would get 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.920 into character. Alex will talk about his relationship with the 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.480 sportsman and what he learned from playing this role. Plus 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.800 we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:56.680 of Warning, including why audiences should give this series a go. Anyway, 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:59.240 let's get Alex into the podcast and guys, I really 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.560 hope you enjoyed this. It's a very interesting episode of 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.280 TV reload. Hey Alex, how are you, buddy? I'm good? 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:06.160 Thanks, mate, how are you? 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:08.480 I've watched the first two episodes, so I kind of 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.880 feel like I'm talking to Warning a little bit. 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:13.480 You've seen it all there, and you've seen it all. 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.320 You know, the series has been so widely anticipated. Are 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.880 you excited for audiences to finally see it? 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.520 Yeah, I'm really excited for people to see it. Sometimes 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.760 the general fame of someone becomes sort of bigger than 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.000 all the individual little things. But it's kind of cool 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.880 to go back and see it and get a bit 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:30.560 of nostalgia. 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:34.640 Growing up. What was your relationship with Shane warn test? 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.160 Cricket for me was sort of you know, the sound 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:39.760 of summer really, you know, we would just sort of 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.360 had the cricket on in the background, like a lot 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.120 of Australian families, and you know, I sort of remember 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:46.680 people kind of going one of my brothers or my 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.000 dad sort of yelling out every now and again, you know, 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:51.720 Warning's on, and then everyone had come in and watch 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:54.280 those overs and then when he went off, everyone else 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:55.440 went off and did whatever they. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:56.079 Were doing again. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.720 So that's kind of my first memory of Shane Warn 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:01.720 as a cricketer primarily, well. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.560 For me, it was more. I went to Doncaster High 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.200 in Melbourne and I remember there was three boys that 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.120 had the haircut and that was not an accident. 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:14.360 You know, they have the earring as well, or just the. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.800 Just the one in particular. And I'm hoping that he's 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:21.200 listening to this podcast because he will know you think 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.360 about him. But he literally it felt like he was 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.280 coming to school in costume every day. 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:26.600 That's interesting. 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.840 I love that you what did you learn about him 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.120 that you didn't know before shooting this series? 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.000 You know, I learned a lot, to be honest. I 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:39.640 knew him as a cricketer, and I know, you. 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:43.240 Know, some of the indiscretions that had gone on throughout 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.760 his career, but more of the sort of the intricacies 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.160 of how it went down with Cricket Australia and you 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.320 know more about. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.960 The pills he took as well, the diet pills, and. 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.360 I kind of didn't know that much about those scandal 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.720 you know, I kind of had seen because it sort 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.480 of got splashed all over newspapers and such that the 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.720 stuff about the women and the family and stuff like that, 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.320 but not not as much about kind of you know, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.600 the year he took off. The funny thing is, as 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:12.320 soon as I got down to Melbourne, and you know, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:16.480 people knew I was playing Shane. You know, I heard 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.360 about it a hundred stories. You know, everyone in Melbourne 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.520 seems to have a story, a Shane Warren story. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:22.680 So that was that was pretty fun. 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:24.560 Did you ever meet him in the flesh? Did you 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:25.200 see a game? 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:25.440 Like? 0:04:25.480 --> 0:04:27.680 What was the closest you ever got to an interaction? 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.920 I didn't know. I never met him. 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.320 It's funny, isn't that When you see someone all the 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.720 time and he then on commentary, you know, such a 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:36.960 fantastic broadcaster. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:39.680 That person's transported into your living room. You kind of 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.039 feel like you know them in a way. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:43.720 I think, you know, you realize, Yeah, no, never met him, 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:45.240 never even got close to meeting him. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:46.120 I don't think you. 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.280 Mentioned something there because like wanting to get himself into 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.440 a fair amount of trouble, you know, over the years, 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.320 I mean, he's still had the world's admiration all the time. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.840 Why do you think that he was so popular even 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:58.080 though he went through all of these scandals, the ups 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.440 and downs. Do you think that maybe there's an underdog 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.279 element that gave him mass appeal regardless. 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.280 Yeah, I would say it's more like ownership. 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.680 You know, he made mistakes, he made serially mistakes, but 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:15.880 he owned them. He didn't shirk responsibility of his actions. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.520 He didn't try and hide away from it. 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.280 He sort of came out and said, yep, I've done 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:23.120 the wrong thing here, sorry, and then kind of, you know, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:26.680 you know, tried to move on from that, which you 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:28.680 know is everyone in a way. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.880 You know, everyone makes mistakes and. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.080 You learn to apologize for them and try and become 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:34.679 a better person. 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.479 And I think that's, you know, that's what he spent 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:37.120 his life doing. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.560 Did people ever say, you know, over your life, did 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:41.560 you look like him? 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.640 I think just because I had, you know, blonde hair, 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:45.400 I had a mullet when I was a kid. 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.880 I did get a bit of that, not not heaps, 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.360 but like enough that it was kind of like when 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.400 the audition came up, I definitely circled it. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.920 And when this is certainly achievable just on a look. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.719 I mean to take someone on as iconic as Warning, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.160 Did that feel like a lot of pressure? I mean, 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:05.000 if someone said to me, can you play Warning, I'd 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.240 say no. And it would be even if I look 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:09.120 like him, I'd still say no because I'd be just 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:12.360 so worried about the relationship that audiences already have with him. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.520 You know, what was your initial response to taking on 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.480 someone as iconic as Shane Warn. 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:18.599 Yeah, that's a good question. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:24.080 I love challenges, and especially I didn't really get into 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.520 acting to sort of shirt again, you know, sort of 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.159 challenges you want to see how good you can be, 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.559 and you want to see if you can make something work. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.200 And also so there was that, but also, you. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.599 Know, you kind of think given his competitive spirit, there's 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:38.440 no way he would have. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.160 Turned it down, you know what I mean, Like it 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:41.200 sort of had that. 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:43.960 I had sort of that feeling about it, sort of 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:44.800 a rise. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:45.839 To the challenge kind of feeling. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:48.839 And I also kind of, you know, I looked around 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.800 and went, you know, if it's not me, it's you know, 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.280 it'll be it'll be someone else. And I genuinely thought 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.880 that I was the best person for the role. I 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.760 thought I knew as much as anyone, if not more. 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.000 Then my contemporaries, and I just kind of thought, Hey, look, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:04.280 if it's not me, it's going to be someone else, 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.039 and I'd rather it was I'd rather it was me 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.680 taking on the responsibility because I didn't take it lightly, 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.600 you know, like he meant a lot to me growing up, 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:13.720 and I wanted the show to be good and a 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:17.560 celebration of him, so just kind of took it on. 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.080 How closely did you want to take this characterization? There 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.880 must have been conversations of, oh, you know, is this 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.720 going to feel like an impersonation or you know what 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.640 were those conversations, Like, you're not there. 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:32.200 To do a character, sure, You're there to create a 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:36.160 three dimensional person who has a moral compass and you know, 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.000 makes mistakes and gets better. 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.240 And or doesn't or keeps making mistakes, so. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.960 Whatever it is, you're there to sort of create, not 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.960 just a few idiosyncrasies at a mullet. You're there to 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.160 show a picture of, you know, a full human being. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:51.160 And look, I think there's some scenes in. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.000 The show that really highlight that. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:56.400 Working with someone like Marnie Kennedy was an absolute delight. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.720 She brought a lot to the show and was fantastic, 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.320 So so you don't take it lightly, but it was 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:03.080 a good experience. 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:05.320 What about some of these techniques, because you hear about 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.200 some very famous people like Nicole Kidman when she would 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:10.440 put on the nose when she was Virginia Wolf that 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.080 helped her get into character. Did you use any kind 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:15.680 of techniques to all of a sudden become him when 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:16.320 they said action? 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:20.320 I mean, I use sort of phrases and lines to 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.200 get into the voice and the energy of the character 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:27.960 and physical kind of you know, resets to get more 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:30.480 in his sort of gait than mine. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.520 But a lot of that work is your prep. 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.599 You know, like I put on sort of seven or 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:40.800 eight kilos just to sort of feel stronger and heavier throughout. 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.319 The trunk and you know, just sort of look a 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:43.280 bit more like him. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.319 And so I worked a lot with costume as well, 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.520 sort of make sure that you know, in the periods 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.240 that he was a bit bigger, and that. 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:52.040 Was part of the plot. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.240 I looked a bit bigger, and we accentuated certain things 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.200 and took things away. And then when he's skinnier and 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.000 slimmer and tanned and all that kind of stuff, that 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:02.800 we sort of did that, and then you've just got 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:04.679 to let your performance and all the work you've done 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.439 setting and just be in the moment. 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:08.920 I just kept thinking the whole time through watching. I 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.760 watched it all in one go, so I watched episode 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.680 one and two. Very lucky to do it that way. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.640 But I was going to say, I just was like, 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.080 I can't wait to talk to Alex about how good 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.600 you were at cricket yourself. You know, how did you 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.480 try and practice the spin? Did you get real cricketers 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.040 to come in and try and get that authenticity? 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:28.319 Yeah, how did you think it looked? 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.000 I mean, you probably could pick this up for me, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.040 but I'm a Philly camp man and I don't watch 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.880 a lot of sport. I'm just going to tell you 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:38.360 right now that I don't know cricket that well. But 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:40.440 for me, it seemed pretty good. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:40.960 That's good. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.200 Well, I think if you're if you're a cricketing savant, 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:45.720 you'd pick up maybe a few things that I was 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.240 doing wrong. But I worked really hard on that because 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.240 you know, whenever I'm a big sports fan, and whenever 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:55.280 I watch TV or films about a sport and you 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.400 see someone that's just nowhere knew it, it can take 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.240 you out of the world you kind of lose is 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:03.440 that suspension of disbelief and it just bothers you, it 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:03.839 nags you. 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.280 And I knew I wasn't going to be able to do. 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.520 It, you know, obviously exactly like Shane, because otherwise I'd 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:11.880 be playing in the ashes coming up. But I worked 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.920 really hard on that and it was really important to me, 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:16.920 and I made that very clear to production that I wanted, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:18.960 you know, people to train me. 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:20.440 I wanted professionals to train me. 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:24.320 So I had Steve O'Keefe helped me up in Sydney, 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:25.960 and then once it goes down to Melbourne, I had 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:29.520 Bryce McGain who had trained with Shane and TJ for 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.360 a long time and he was an invaluable resource. Like 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.560 he just he was fantastic, not only with the cricket stuff. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.840 He really got me rowling well and on target, but 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.720 the mentality that Shane would bring to the field, you know, 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.600 which is quite aggressive, let's say. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.360 So it's just those little stories and that feeling. 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:52.920 It's one thing to get that trigger action happening and 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:54.520 coming out of the back of your hand in the 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:57.400 right way, and you know, it's this disposition for this 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.360 ball and this for this ball but then also have 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.559 that thing of going at the top of his mark. 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.160 He would just stare down the batsman. You know, these 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.320 sort of little things that really pected the performance with 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:11.440 what I thought was some authenticity. 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.320 The one thing I feel like you're going to get 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:16.720 asked a lot about making this particular show is do 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.000 you think it's too soon? I think that's what most 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.240 people seem to be talking about, because this went into 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.640 productions that are six months after he passed away. How 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:26.080 is all of that landing with you? 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:30.160 Yeah, well, when I first read the script that Matt 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.960 Ford had been writing for seven years, it's pretty clear 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:36.920 to me that it's a celebration. It was clear to 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:38.520 me at the time that it was a celebration of 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.880 the man, and that's something that I wanted to celebrate. 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:47.400 So I understand the sensitivities around it. But you know, 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:51.079 different people process, you know, things at different rates and 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.360 at different times. So I understand if people, you know, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.040 I don't want to watch for that for that reason. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.080 Well, it'll be interesting because I think it is going 0:11:58.120 --> 0:11:59.840 to rate. I think people will tune in to see 0:11:59.840 --> 0:12:02.200 it because he is a part of our history. You know, 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.920 we started off this conversation about talking about how iconic 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.959 he is, and you even mentioned learning along the way. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.320 What about audiences though, do you think audiences watching this 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.200 is going to walk away learning new things about it 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.080 worth them tuning to watch the show one? 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:21.600 As much as you know people will think that they 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.920 know everything about him, they don't, and they will learn something, 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.040 you know, the longer they tune in for so you know, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:31.160 I'll look forward to that. They might bring up a 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:35.480 few uncomfortable things, but that's that's that's life, that's drama. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:39.600 It would be it would be foolish to to change 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:43.800 history as far as going, oh, well, no, he didn't 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.040 do it, and just make it a really clean docco 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.640 He was very open about what he you know, the 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:51.719 mistakes he made, and he owned them. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.400 So I feel like it's a fair representation. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.880 Well, the success of this series for me was that 0:12:57.040 --> 0:13:00.760 I really enjoyed the highs. I really enjoyed those moments 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:02.760 where he was picked to be on the team, And 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.400 you know, it must have been kind of phenomenal in 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:08.400 a weird way to vicariously live through this man and 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.880 recreate those moments. How was that feeling where you are 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:16.000 having to act and live through some of those really 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:17.840 important highs that he had in his career. 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.439 It's kind of a fun experience. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.560 I mean, like that first scene is one of my 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:27.360 favorite scenes when he when when he gets picked for 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.480 the squad in the first time and he sort of 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.520 tells his family that you know, he's going, and then 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.280 he just streams dad, you know, because obvious. 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.680 Fantastic. Yeah, because I just had. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.280 That thing of going like someone's missing, you know, and 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.080 just screaming dads sprinting out. 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:50.199 Especially after the rejection of security. 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.000 You know, he thought his dream was of being a 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.440 professional sportsman was Oliver, you know, and his true love 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.800 for AFL was over. And then you know that feeling 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.440 of like getting off the team pass and everyone wanting 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.319 your signature and yelling, you know, warning, warning him. I 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:09.079 mean that's something that I will probably almost definitely never experience. 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:13.480 So at the same time, though, recreating those moments, there 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.800 must have been some satisfaction in that as well, just 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.880 to even get as close to what it must have 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.960 felt like to be hum in some of those moments. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.480 You know, yeah, yeah, it was. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:26.440 You know, it makes it easier as a performer when 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.600 it is built like that and you're just responding quite, 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.320 you know, naturally at the time. And the thing is, 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:34.640 you know, there's a famous quote about him. I can't 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.760 remember exactly. I'll probably butcher it. But Shane took to 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.920 fame like a duckt toward it, you know, like some 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.000 people find it very difficult. 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.600 Being famous and notoriety. 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.200 I don't think that that was his initial reaction to it. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:50.480 I want to know when you're watching this when it 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:52.760 goes to air, will you be dressed as him? At 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.760 home watching it with your friends and family. How are 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.320 you planning on watching this show? 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.600 I don't know yet, is the truth. My family will 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.480 live in Hurts, so it won't it won't be with them. Look, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.160 I might have a couple of mates over and crack 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.720 a few tins and watch it, and we'll we'll have 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:10.040 to see it. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.560 I remember a friend of mine was playing someone. I 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:14.200 don't want to say his name because you'll hate this, 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.200 but I'm so nervous about recreating this person that he 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.840 went for a very long run. So he was running 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.160 the whole time it was playing on television, just because 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.960 social media could be so brutal that he just didn't 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.200 want to be on social media to see any kind 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.880 of response. And the reason why I'm not mentioning him 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.680 is because you know, the response to him was a 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.440 little bit sort of up and down, and he shouldn't that. 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.640 You know, he knew that going into it, that you can't, 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:38.280 you know, win everyone over. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:39.560 It's an interesting thing. 0:15:39.640 --> 0:15:42.840 Like you know, when I did The Sun a long 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:46.080 time ago, it's sort of it felt like that and I, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.240 you know, had some friends over and I was on 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:49.840 Twitter and excited. 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.440 And you know, you're right though, like this, this. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:56.040 Probably won't you know, it's a it's going to be 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:58.280 a polarizing show potentially, so. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.680 Yeah, it probably won't be sitting on Twitter. I'll tell 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:01.080 you that much. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.920 Free stay away from Also, I said this all the time. 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.960 I think it's a good quote from Sandra Bullock. Never 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:10.920 read the comments section ever. Right before you go. But 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:12.480 the last question I want to ask is the same 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:14.760 question I ask everyone who joins the pod, and that is, 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:17.120 what is something from behind the scene, something that we 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.520 won't see on the show, but kind of like a 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.560 bit of a you know, behind the scene secret for 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.840 you while you're making warning one. 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:28.280 Weekend because we've shot for two weeks and you know 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.960 you're doing these massive days and because basically in every 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.880 scene and I just really don't have any time to 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.360 practice cricket. And I knew that I had some massive, 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:38.720 actual cricketing days coming up. 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:41.040 So I asked Bryce if I could go, you know, 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:41.440 do a. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.080 Net session with him, and he was like, yeah, I 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.720 may just pop down to the MCG. I was like, okay, 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.880 So I went and trained with him at the MCG. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.720 After he was commentating the Shield Cricket. I was sort 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:53.480 of leaving afterwards, you know in the nets that he 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.760 trained with with with Shane and TJ, which is prove 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:57.760 really special moment. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.960 And then I was sort of leaving. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.200 And there was this Yeah, there was this lovely couple 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.760 who are clearly on you know, on a holiday, and 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.720 were you know, the mtgym and it's quiet, there's no 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:10.320 one around. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:13.520 You know, it's a Sunday afternoon. There is no one around. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.040 Except this this couple, young couple, and they were in 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.399 front of the statue of Shane warn and she was 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.680 taking a photo of him and I sort of was 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.480 walking past them and you know, wearing a hat and stuff. 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:26.280 But you know, it was like, you guys want me 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:27.879 to take a photo of the two of you, you know, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:29.520 in front of the statues. 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.200 I just sit there and took a photo of this. 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.080