1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: We know that it has been announced this morning that 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Australia is going to have a Holocaust memorial in each 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: state and territory after the Morrison government committed seven hundred 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars towards the establishment of a Holocaust 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: museum in Darwin. Now the Treasurer Josh Friedenberg is expected 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: to be in Darwin today for the announcement. But joining 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: me on the line right now is the acting Federal 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: Minister for Education and Youth, Stuart Robert. Good morning to you. 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: Good morning minister. Hopefully I've got you there you do. 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,319 Speaker 2: Indeed, good morning to you. 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Now, Minister. What's been behind the drive to establish this 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: memorial in Darwen and why had the Northern Territory been 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: without a Holocaust museum until now. 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: This is the last of the museums to complete every 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: state and territory, so that we've got a very visible 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: representation of the horror of what the Nazi regime did 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: as a crime against humanity, and they place for the 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 2: submission not just to remember, but also to educate Australians 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: about that horror and how it never needs to happen again. 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: We've been working around the country to put in place 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: these museums. The Northern Territory is just the last piece 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: of the puzzle and great to join with the Northern 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Territory government on this. 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Now, where in Darwin is it going to be established 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: and how exactly is it going to operate? 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: The museum will actually be next to the current military 27 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: museum and that it will go next door to that, 28 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: and the intent is it'll be staffed and run as 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: a professional museum, as a place where school students and 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: indeed the general community can go along to be educated, 31 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: to understand, to reflect upon what happened, why it happened, 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: and to ensure it doesn't happen again. And if you 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: think about and agreed through the Gandal Foundation's research that 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: we put out last week, a quarter austrain In adults 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: know nothing of the Holocaust and the destruction of six 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: million Jewish people, and seventy percent of the entire population 37 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: don't understand the Australian connection. So there is a need 38 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: for education and this is another great piece in that puzzle. 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's quite unbelievable, isn't it that seventy percent and 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: not aware of Australia's connections to the Holocaust. I mean, 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: has this gotten worse with time? 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Do you think? My understanding is it has and time 43 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: does blur all things. I understand that. But there are 44 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: some things that we should never forget, because if we 45 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: forget our history, there is a chance, however slim, that 46 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: we are destined as humanity to repeat that history. And 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: it's why Holocaust history is so important to remember that 48 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: a nation state and a Nazi regime would seek to 49 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: exterminate a people for no other reason other than their 50 00:02:54,680 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 2: faith is just extraordinary and it's important we understand that, understand, 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: reflect and affirm this will never happen again. 52 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: Now, how does the federal government view the importance of 53 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: establishing memorials such as this? Obviously, but also side by 54 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: side with what was experienced by Indigenous Australians in terms 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: of the Stolen generation. 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: The next step, of course governments working through is a 57 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: suitable memorial and a resting place for Indigenous remains. There's 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: been a topic of conversation for a long period of 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: time and we're working our way through that in the 60 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: nation's capital in Canberra, as we should, as is fitting 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: and likewise, there's a very strong educational bent that moves 62 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: through that. Now the national curriculum. Of course, education ministers 63 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: have been working through very strongly recognized the wonderful Indigenous history, 64 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: so Australian students can understand that history. So we're already 65 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: cementing that through our educational system, which is important when 66 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: it comes to the Holocaust, which is not a strong 67 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: feature of our education system. It is featured, but nowhere 68 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: near as strongly as Indigenous history as is understandable and 69 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: as is appropriate. But this is where museums in locations 70 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: are really really important. 71 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: Do you think that we've reached a point in Australia 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: just on that indigenous issue? Do you think we've reached 73 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: a point in Australia where it should you know that 74 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: it should be a part of the curriculum and have 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: to be a part of the curriculum to learn about 76 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: our indigenous history. 77 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: Ah, it is in but I read it last night. 78 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 2: I'm preparing for Education ministers meeting this Friday when we'll 79 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: move our way through the curriculum and Indigenous history is 80 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 2: front and center, which is wonderful to see. 81 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: Well, we know that you're very pressed for time this 82 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: morning as we so we really appreciate your time this morning. 83 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: Stuart Robert, the acting Minister for Education and Youth. Before 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: I let you go, mate, when is this election happening May? 85 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: While the Prime Minister said that the government will go 86 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: full term, and full term is somewhere near the end 87 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 2: of May. So if I was a betting man, and 88 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm not, I would suggest the Morrison government will live 89 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 2: up to its pledge that we will go full term. 90 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: We will govern and lead Australia through the pandemic as 91 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: we have so strongly done. An end of May, the 92 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: Australian people will be able to make a choice between 93 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: the government that has led strongly and delivered record unemployment 94 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: down four point two percent, heading to a number three 95 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: versus a flip flopping mister Albanesi, I think that'll be 96 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: a worthy choice for territory instrument. 97 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you what, it's going to be an 98 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: interesting couple of months, no doubt about it. Stuart Robert. 99 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: We really appreciate you taking the time to have a 100 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: quick chat with us this morning. 101 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: Love the chat. 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: Thank you.