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Speaker 2: Just a warning on this one. This story is going

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Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: the twenty seventh of September. I'm Zara, I'm sam Uk

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Speaker 3: Metropolitan Police are now officially investigating allegations of sexual offenses

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Speaker 3: that have been made against comedian Russell Brand. Despite mounting

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Speaker 4: My objectivity has been strongly challenged over recent weeks. Recognize

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Speaker 4: What is incredibly important is independent media. What is incredibly

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Speaker 4: What is incredibly important is that you have independent media

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Speaker 4: that doesn't just accept government narratives but investigates challenges mainstream

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Speaker 3: We're going to tell you what you need to know

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Speaker 3: about this story in the Deep Dives. But first Sam,

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Speaker 3: He has loyalists.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had people saying don't let the bastards win.

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Speaker 2: I only joined Rumble today to support Russell brand and

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Speaker 2: I think what he's moved to Rumble shows us is

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Speaker 2: diehard audience.

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Speaker 3: He is. But we are only at the beginning of

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