1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: We are continuing the discussions with the Nightcliff candidates the 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: by election. Well it's just a couple of days away. 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: Love to hear from you. The text lines lit up, obviously, 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: it's a lot of you. We've been saying all morning 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: messages if you've got a question, and now everybody's sending 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: a flurry of questions through. But keep them coming. But 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: what do you think are the main issues for the 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: people of Nightcliff. What are you going to be voting on? 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: Love to hear from you this morning, and still plenty 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: of you who need to get out there and vote. 11 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: So we did really want to make sure that we 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: catch up with all four of the candidates. So we 13 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: got two candidates today. We had Suki on just a 14 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: short time ago, and Phil Scott joins me on the 15 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: line right now now. Phil is an independent candidate. 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Good morning, Phil, Good morning, great to be Richelle. 17 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, good to have you on the show. Now, Phil, 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: why did you decide to put your hand up for 19 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: the Nightcliff by election. 20 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: It's my kids that drive a lot of my actions. 21 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to be a good example for them that 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: when we see we need an opportunity for improvement to 23 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: understand that we have a responsibility to stand up on 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: behalf of others. So that's what's motivating me in life 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: at the moment. 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: And Phil, do you live in the electrode? 27 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: I do. I live in Rupid Creek. 28 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Now what do you see as being the major issues 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 1: in the electrodes? 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: Certainly talking to folks on the doors, community safety is 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 2: really front of mind for most people at the moment, 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: as is the cost of living, the cost of lack 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: and lack of good and available housing in our community, groceries, 34 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 2: power bills, clean and healthy environments. And also my kids 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: go to school at Nightclift Primary and Nightcliff High School, 36 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: and a lack of an under resourced education and healthcare 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: system is also coming up a lot too. People are 38 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: frustrated that we think we should have better healthcare and 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: better investment and education than we certainly at the moment. 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: Well, we've spoken a lot actually about health in recent months, 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: in recent weeks, so I do think it's something that's 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: concerning a lot of people in terms of that infrastructure 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: as well, Phil, tell me around the safety issue, it 44 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: is one which has raised with us very often. What 45 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: would you do as the local member to try and 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: sort the safety concerns of those in Nightcliff. 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: There's plenty we could do. One of the past governments 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 2: done to twelve million bucks into the local police station, 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: and of course everyone's asking why isn't that even staff 50 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: by police during normal business hours, let alone twenty four 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 2: hours a day. So it's sitting there as a bit 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: of a white elephant that continues to be a white elephant, 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: and neither the Labor Party or a COLP party are 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: doing much about that in our community. So if the 55 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 2: government's unwilling to do anything with that place in that space, 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: I think, all right, what if we make it somewhat 57 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: of a PC YC. We could have police and local 58 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: community and social services in there engaging in programs with 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: young people in a place where they're going to feel safe, 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: where relationships and connections are built between local police and 61 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: community as well as local services. If homes a bit 62 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: rough for local young people, it can be a place 63 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: where they could even go and be looked after, get 64 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: a feed, have a safe night's sleep. We could think 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: outside the box a lot better than what we do 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: at the moment in terms of how we address community safety. 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: I've also spent time in Litchfield Court and a shout 68 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: out to Mission Australia who are doing a lot of 69 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: great work in the community there, and also the guys 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 2: who are running security over there, who shared with me 71 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: the other day that their approach to community safety in 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: the year that they've been there has had a really 73 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: significant effect in dampening down a lot of domestic violence 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: and violent behavior. Hasn't solved it, It's still there, definitely, 75 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: but their approaches we go in with fist bumps and 76 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: high fliers rather than police dogs and heavy handedness, and 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: they're telling me that that's actually having a meaningful effect. Well, 78 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: those sorts of interventions are actually quite cheap and really practical, 79 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: and the communities respond really well to them, So I say, 80 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: you know, invest more and that kind of stuff. Phil. 81 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Do you support the Saint Vinnie's being relocated to the 82 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: Nightcliff area. Well, it's just sort of on the outskirts, 83 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: but I know some people have felt as though it's 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: potentially had an impact with some of the issues around 85 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: anti social behavior. Do you support it being there? 86 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was one of the people who put in 87 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: a submission for that, and it was absolutely down the middle. 88 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 2: I think twenty four opposed twenty four supportive, and I 89 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: was a twenty first. That was the only one that 90 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: they said was neutral. But for the record, I am 91 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: supportive of it on the basis that we do need 92 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: these sorts of services in our communities. People who are 93 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: homeless and sleeping rough certainly benefit from being able to 94 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: get a feed and being treated with some dignity and 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: respect and these sorts of places. But of course there 96 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: are communities concerns around it, and safety concerns around it. 97 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: And I've lived across the road from that place ever 98 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: since it opened up and until I moved late last year, 99 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: and there were dozens of folks who would walk up 100 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: and down our street every day. I was at that 101 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 2: bus stop alongside folks every day with my kids, putting 102 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: them on the bus before before school started, and I 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: noticed the impact that being treated with a bit of 104 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: dignity and some kindness actually had in dampening down people's 105 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: feelings of agitation and anger and aggression. Doesn't mean it 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: fixed it, but these services are valuable. I was concerned 107 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: every day though, that there was going to be a 108 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: pedestrian accent accident around there, and so I actually spoke 109 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 2: to the local member Lauri Zeo when I was living 110 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: in the electric there about Hey, look that clearly they're 111 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: community concerns here. Why don't we get something like the 112 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: Community Justice Center in to mediate a little bit between Hey, 113 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: what are some short and immediate term interventions that can 114 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: help people feel safer and be safer while stillso making 115 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: sure that we have these sorts of services that are 116 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: needed in our community. 117 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: A couple of quick ones. Somebody's just messaged through and said, Katie, 118 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: can you please ask Phil what separates him and Suki? 119 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: They seem to share a lot of the same values. 120 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: Well, for me, from an independent perspective, we're kind of saying, look, 121 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: there's a problem with party politics if we're if we're 122 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: as a community having decisions made by small groups of people. 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Even the major parties don't have many branch members these days. 124 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 2: They gather behind closed doors, they make policy decisions on 125 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: everyone else's behalf without consulting and engaging community. They and 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: then they didn't come back later on and tell us, oh, 127 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: this is what we're going to do as an independent, 128 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: as a community independent, I really want to involve the 129 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: community and that legislative setting process so that community is 130 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: invited into and can participate in what sort of legislation 131 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: and what sort of policies we want to create for ourselves, 132 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 2: rather than have that done by any party. 133 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Phil another one that we asked of Suki as well. 134 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: SPUD had sent this through a bit earlier, asking are 135 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: you going to raise the Palestinian issues in parliament. 136 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: As and we're appropriate. I'm happy too. I want to 137 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: be a strong voice for underdogs all over the place. 138 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: Certainly the people of Palestine are underdog at the moment, 139 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: the place is being obliterated. But and so I'd do 140 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: it on that basis and that principle. But certainly we're 141 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: there to be elected members of the Northern Territory Parliament 142 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: and I'm there to represent the people at Nightcliff, And 143 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: that's my protest, that's my priority. 144 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: So a couple more. We've got so many listener questions 145 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: coming through it's distracting me a little bit. Hey, I 146 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: want to ask you though, have you well, no, we 147 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: know that you have protested at some gas and mining conferences. 148 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: Are you concerned that you've got a reputation as an agitator? 149 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: Well, look, my I think my reputation is as somebody 150 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: who's going to stand up for the little people. And 151 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: if we take the incident with the now administrator is 152 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: one example. I was there at that conference as a 153 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: paying attendee to say, look, that was a developing Northern 154 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: Australia conference and all I saw were fat cats. There 155 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 2: are children, young people, local small businesses and families and 156 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: communities weren't represented at that conference. I was there to 157 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: remind them that, hey, there's a whole bunch of voices 158 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: here at these places that you aren't hearing from. You 159 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: don't want to hear from them, but in somebody like me, 160 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: I'll make sure that we do hear from them. 161 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: Phil, you copped a lot of stick before the federal 162 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: election when you ran for Solomon for being supported by 163 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: Climate two hundred. Are you still supported by Climate two hundred? 164 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if we have been or night. We've 165 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: raised about thirteen thousand bucks, and I reckon almost all 166 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: of it is from local donors only. We do accept 167 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: crowdfunded support from anybody who wants to donate to community 168 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 2: independents who are going to be active on climate action 169 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: and gender equity and integrity and politics. 170 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 1: What do you mean you're not sure if you're supported 171 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 1: by Climate two hundred this time round. 172 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: Well, I was having a look at the donations this morning. 173 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: I think we had seven thousand bucks in the account. 174 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: I expected this sort of thing, and I haven't seen anything. 175 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 2: But I don't want to say that they might not 176 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: contribute to us. But I haven't seen anything come in 177 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: from Climate two hundred. So yeah, is it part of 178 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: your responsibility to know where that money is coming from? Oh? Look, 179 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: certainly we found out I think two and a half 180 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: weeks ago that this by election was happening. So at 181 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: the time of our last disclosure, we disclosed zero donations 182 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: because we had zero donations. So we've had the hustle. 183 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: Some really generous people have donated, some have donated five 184 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: hundred bucks, thousand bucks. But we've been able to recycle 185 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: and repurpose our call flute. We recall we're a lean, 186 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: mean community machine, so this thing, we haven't had time 187 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 2: to spend any money and fundraise. 188 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: I did notice, I thought, well done, you'd like covered 189 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: the for Solomon. I did notice that. Hey, before I 190 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: let you go, couple of quick ones preferences. Who are 191 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: you preferencing? How's that going to work? 192 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: I'm not preferencing anybody. Part of our messages community independence 193 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: is to say to folks to deal with a lot 194 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: of the missing disinformation out there, that that power preference 195 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 2: is yours. So I'm appealing for your number one vote, 196 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: but we want people to know, hey, you put your 197 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: two threes and fours in this election where your conscience 198 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: goes or with the other candidates as you see fit. 199 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: We're not going to tell you how to do that. 200 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: And Phil just finally the question I'm asking every candidate, 201 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: why should people vote for you? 202 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: People should vote for me because it takes a lot 203 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: of moxi to stand up as an independence. The major 204 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 2: parties have lost touch with our community. They stand for 205 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: very similar things. These days, they're indistinct, wishable from one another, 206 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: and we need strong voices in parliament. Independence make scrutiny 207 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: of government stronger. We make their party machines nervous because 208 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: we make their excuses weaker and their backroom deals harder, 209 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 2: and we make their power accountable. And we focus on 210 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: transparency and accountability and good government and respectful principal decision 211 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 2: making in government, and we certainly need more of that 212 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: in the territory. 213 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: Well Phil Scott, the Independent candidate for the Nightcliff by election. 214 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: Really appreciate your time. Thanks so much for having a 215 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: chat with me. 216 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 2: I appreciate the invitation. 217 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Katie, no worries at all, Thank you.