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Speaker 1: Already and this is the daily This is the daily ars,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, and welcome to the Daily Ours. It's Monday,

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Speaker 2: the twelfth of January. I'm Emma Gillespie, I'm Billy fitz Simon's.

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Speaker 2: Tensions around US immigration enforcement have escalated over the past

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Speaker 2: week after a woman was shot and killed by a

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Speaker 2: The shooting has sparked widespread protests and divided politicians as

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Speaker 3: This was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in

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Speaker 3: contributed so greatly to our city, to our culture, to

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Speaker 2: As protests intensify. Today, we are going to explore what

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Speaker 2: government's response, and the growing controversy around US immigration enforcement operations.

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Speaker 1: And before we get into what exactly happened in the

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Speaker 1: US state of Minnesota last week, I first want to

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Speaker 1: give context about what exactly ice is I feel like

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Speaker 1: over the past year or so since Donald Trump became

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Speaker 1: in the news. Yeah, exactly what is that agency?

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Speaker 2: You're bang on there, Billy that we have heard a

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Speaker 2: is called ICE, as you mentioned, which stands for Immigration

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security and ICE's main job is to enforce immigration

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Speaker 2: you've probably seen are things like arresting and deporting people

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Speaker 1: Okay, so ICE is not new, but their operations have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why has there been so much recent discussion about ICE.

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Speaker 2: It's because, as you correctly point out, Billy, US President

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the context of ICE, and that brings

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Speaker 2: Well, Trump and his entire administration are characterizing this as

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Speaker 3: They are already trying to spin this as an action

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Speaker 1: It's not often that you hear swearing in official press

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Speaker 2: This has become a major point of contentional another major

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Speaker 1: Okay. So that's the political response, But what about the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's been a really significant protest movement that's come

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the death of Good has really resonated across the country.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Billy, there have been protests taking place

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Speaker 1: It feels like, I mean, this already is a huge

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially after what has now been an entire

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Speaker 1: for having me really, and thank you for listening to

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Speaker 1: this episode of The Daily Ods. We'll be back this

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Speaker 1: afternoon with your evening headlines, but until then, how a

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Speaker 1: good day.

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Speaker 3: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda

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Speaker 3: Bungelung Kalkadon woman from Gadighl Country. The Daily oz acknowledges

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Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the

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Speaker 3: Gadighl people and pays respect to all.

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Speaker 1: Aboriginal and torrest Rate island and nations.

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Speaker 3: We pay our respects to the first peoples of these countries,

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Speaker 3: both past and present,