Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
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Speaker 1: back to TV Reload. I want to thank you for
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Speaker 1: is not only a fabulous entertainment journalist, fashionist and brother Encyclopedia,
Speaker 1: but one of my good mates who knows more about
Speaker 1: housewives than pretty much any housewife I know, we have
Speaker 1: a fabulous chat for you.
Speaker 2: This week.
Speaker 1: The seventh episode was called What the Chuck and it
Speaker 1: really delivered With Kyle Richards in most scenes, we saw
Speaker 1: some real evolution of the darker side of Kyle's manipulation
Speaker 1: and from a ride or Die Kyle Richards fan.
Speaker 2: We've got a lot to unpack.
Speaker 1: This week, we discussed the second part of that Viper
Speaker 1: room confrontation with Kyle and Derete.
Speaker 2: And I ask Alana if she felt.
Speaker 1: Like the original promo oversold that altercation. I will get
Speaker 1: Alana's perspective on Bozeman and how she feels about the
Speaker 1: way on which both Derete and Kyle are coming for
Speaker 1: her approval and co signing. Plus off the back of
Speaker 1: the we will discuss if Erica has picked a side
Speaker 1: between these two women. We will address the country club
Speaker 1: men girls who asked Kyle about the infidelity in her marriage,
Speaker 1: Thanks Sudden, and then Garsell with the sound advice that
Speaker 1: if Kyle wants to be.
Speaker 2: A lesbian, then be a lesbian.
Speaker 1: You were going to get plenty a chat on the
Speaker 1: social clicks that are forming, and if it was fair
Speaker 1: for Dreit to be left out of Erica's little party
Speaker 1: while Kyle is lying about her text history, if Chuck
Speaker 1: E Cheese is someplace that any women of that age
Speaker 1: would want to go, And we will discuss the rumors
Speaker 1: that Kyle will be taking a break after next week's episode.
Speaker 1: There is so much to one pack, with so many
Speaker 1: inside revelations from our perspective, So sit back and relax
Speaker 1: as we unpack the wonderful world of the Real Housewives
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills, Season fourteen, Episode seven.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3: Oh Hello, so much happy out with this week's episode.
Speaker 3: For all the snooze first that we had last week,
Speaker 3: I feel like this week delivered in spades.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about your viewing habits
Speaker 2: of this show.
Speaker 1: This is how I want to start because I feel
Speaker 1: like people with Housewives, they may have other series that
Speaker 1: they just watch in their pajamas, or they may lay
Speaker 1: around the house. But then with Beverly Hills, it's like
Speaker 1: an event at our place. Like my partner has to
Speaker 1: drink a red wine when he watches it.
Speaker 2: What the hell do you do?
Speaker 3: I want to watch it by myself. I like watching
Speaker 3: it alone with the curtains drawn, and I like it
Speaker 3: to feel like a theater experience. However, what I have noticed,
Speaker 3: particularly since we've been doing the podcast is my husband.
Speaker 3: I think he's a secret fan, and he keeps moving
Speaker 3: in and out of the room while I'm trying to
Speaker 3: watch the show, and he pops in and out, and
Speaker 3: I think it's because he wants to watch it. And
Speaker 3: in fact, this episode, he actually sat down and just
Speaker 3: sort of pretended he was doing something on his phone.
Speaker 2: Did he talk to you?
Speaker 3: He told me he didn't interrupt, but he was there,
Speaker 3: and I just want to watch, you know. But I
Speaker 3: think he likes it all right.
Speaker 1: So the episode launches this week with the continuation of
Speaker 1: of what body you want from me? You know that
Speaker 1: conversation at the viper room? Did it live up to
Speaker 1: the expectations in your mind as to wait a full
Speaker 1: week to get that conclusion.
Speaker 3: I think they're playing us a little bit with this,
Speaker 3: as you said last week, because they had nothing. They've
Speaker 3: had to put that at the end. They had to
Speaker 3: give us something that felt like a big moment. But
Speaker 3: coming back from it, it all got diffused pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still got heated, and there was a
Speaker 3: lot of yelling. There was a lot of irate anger.
Speaker 3: The veins were popping, honey, they were coming right out.
Speaker 3: I feel like that line that what more do you
Speaker 3: want from me? That will be out there in the
Speaker 3: cultural fabric of the iconic lines that we remember from
Speaker 3: housewives like moving forward. But you're right, it all sort
Speaker 3: of diffused pretty quickly, and it wasn't as big as
Speaker 3: it was made out to be when we had that
Speaker 3: cliffhanger moment.
Speaker 1: You know, when we watched the promo for this series,
Speaker 1: they had a big promo and they do center it
Speaker 1: around this huge moment being the what more do you
Speaker 1: want from me? And I kind of feel now that
Speaker 1: it was a little overcooked because I went back and
Speaker 1: listened to that promo and you do hear the sound
Speaker 1: of you know, the white wine glasses crashing to make
Speaker 1: us believe that we were getting another.
Speaker 2: Don't talk about the husband moment, where when.
Speaker 1: You watch the episode that's been on this week, there's
Speaker 1: no wine glasses being crashed around. They actually removed that
Speaker 1: moving of the camera to make it look like it
Speaker 1: was going to be more than it was.
Speaker 2: Do you think that was a little misleading.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they've definitely leant into that and thought, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is our this is our moment. Like they do
Speaker 3: on all the trailers, particularly when they're sort of at
Speaker 3: the start of the season, there's always something in there
Speaker 3: that seems really heated. We had the Kathy Aspen stuff
Speaker 3: a couple of seasons ago. I mean, look, it was
Speaker 3: probably one of the more dramatic moments we've had in
Speaker 3: terms of the aggression over the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess since we had Eric's were what
Speaker 3: or nothing exactly? Shit, Sorry, I like acting them out.
Speaker 3: It was a lot. It was a lot, but it
Speaker 3: wasn't as a lot as they led us to believe
Speaker 3: it was going to be. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: What really surprises me now as we are at this
Speaker 1: point of the series is that there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of contention about whose side Erica Jane is going to pick,
Speaker 1: because she's playing both of them. And this was the
Speaker 1: first episode that I thought to myself, you know what,
Speaker 1: Erica is being very clearly Team Derete.
Speaker 4: Do you think if the table was turned and Kyle
Speaker 4: asked me the question I asked Kyle, and I reacted
Speaker 4: that Kyle would be okay with that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: Both of you are in a very unique situation in
Speaker 5: the sense that you're both separated at the same time.
Speaker 5: Tensions are very high, You're emotionally raw, both of you.
Speaker 5: But I do agree with you. Had the tables in turn,
Speaker 5: she wouldn't have been happy either.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't be happy with any of it, not the texting,
Speaker 4: not the not sharing, and definitely not the reaction.
Speaker 3: I thought that too when I watched this, I thought, oh,
Speaker 3: because she was sort of she wasn't sitting right near Kyle,
Speaker 3: but I think proximity while she was closer to Kyle,
Speaker 3: and she got up, she went around the table, and
Speaker 3: she was trying to diffuse the situation with dread They stop,
Speaker 3: you have to stop, and she sort of was the
Speaker 3: one that escorted her out and I thought, oh, she's
Speaker 3: picked Aside, like not even Bo's got up and went
Speaker 3: around to dereat, you know. So I feel like for
Speaker 3: someone who has been sort of playing them, you know equally,
Speaker 3: I think she's been trying to be fair. She's trying
Speaker 3: to be a middleman. But I thought, oh, you've picked
Speaker 3: Aside there.
Speaker 1: And then she's doing those post show interviews with Kyle
Speaker 1: Richards that you can watch on YouTube, and I'm finding
Speaker 1: that those chats are starting to become a little bit
Speaker 1: dangerous for both of Kyle and Erica. I don't know
Speaker 1: how those chats are going to keep going on, whether
Speaker 1: they're going to keep those women together, because how can
Speaker 1: they because Kyle, clearly, as Queen Bee and an og
Speaker 1: is going to turn around to Erica and say, I
Speaker 1: don't think that you were being completely honest with me
Speaker 1: while we were shooting this series.
Speaker 3: Interesting because I think Kyle does not realize that eric
Speaker 3: is sort of more picking team to eat. I think
Speaker 3: she has gone into this season thinking Erica is one
Speaker 3: hundred percent on her side, that their allies, that she
Speaker 3: was there for her when the Tom Girardi stuff was
Speaker 3: rolling more so than anyone else, and that Erica owes
Speaker 3: her and Erica has her back, and I think she
Speaker 3: will be surprised, particularly when she sees a lot of
Speaker 3: these confessionals. And Erica is definitely leaning if you read
Speaker 3: the subtext of what she's saying, and as we sort
Speaker 3: of saw play out throughout the rest of this episode
Speaker 3: when the texts and things were getting revealed with PK,
Speaker 3: it is turning. And it's not just Erica. Everyone starting
Speaker 3: to turn on Kyle.
Speaker 1: I think the viewers, the cast, I'm assuming that the producers,
Speaker 1: and probably Andy Cohen once we get to the reunion.
Speaker 1: I found it interesting from Erica in that she brought
Speaker 1: up the fact that the v appeared on Kyle's forehead
Speaker 1: as though it was the first time she'd ever seen that.
Speaker 5: Durda is having a hard time personally and she's no
Speaker 5: longer putting up a dish out of Kyle. I've never
Speaker 5: seen Kyle and Durat like this ever. I've never seen
Speaker 5: dur eat lunch. Sorry, Kyle. I've never seen Kyle's VAM
Speaker 5: pop out in her head. I don't know what this
Speaker 5: is going on here at the Vapor Room.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you, is that your retelling of the truth,
Speaker 1: Because I feel like we've seen that v on her
Speaker 1: head quite a few times.
Speaker 3: Well, she said, look, I haven't been that angry since
Speaker 3: that fight with Camille Grammar. She was really irate. But
Speaker 3: as we sort of talked about last week, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of visceral anger with Kyle, and it's not adding up.
Speaker 3: It is not tracking with what she's saying in regards
Speaker 3: to the reason she was angry at to Read when
Speaker 3: they stopped filming and the Bravo con comments and the
Speaker 3: watch what happens and these tiny things to then get
Speaker 3: to that point where she was really in the role
Speaker 3: and she should have said, I shouldn't have been texting him.
Speaker 3: I didn't really realize it was something I shouldn't have
Speaker 3: been doing. I apologize and I won't do that anymore.
Speaker 3: The fact she got so angry about it, there has
Speaker 3: to be something else here. There has to be some
Speaker 3: other reason why she is hating to Read so badly,
Speaker 3: because it is reaching another level.
Speaker 1: Well surfaces later in this episode. I think we get
Speaker 1: a little tease of that, but before we move on
Speaker 1: to it. I feel like you mentioned Boseman and the
Speaker 1: fact that Boseman didn't get up and walk around the
Speaker 1: table I'm really curious now about Bozman's perspective on the
Speaker 1: conflict between Kyle and Derete, because, as we know, she's
Speaker 1: fresh eyes, she's watching this play out and having to
Speaker 1: gather the facts, and she really gets to have that
Speaker 1: conversation once Dereat's outside with Erica Jane and leaving. They
Speaker 1: start sort of asking her questions, and Bozman's in a
Speaker 1: difficult situation because she clearly doesn't have all the information no,
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 3: We see that as it plays out, you know, after
Speaker 3: she goes with that surgery and Kyle pops past her house,
Speaker 3: and Kyle really takes that as her opportunity to be like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to give this check some of the other side.
Speaker 6: There are multiple reasons, Wow, Kyle could be here visiting me.
Speaker 6: One is that I've been spending a lot of time
Speaker 6: with Dirrit, So maybe Kyle wants to give me her
Speaker 6: perspective so that I can have a more balanced opinion,
Speaker 6: or maybe so she can win me over onto her.
Speaker 3: Sun and she's whipping out the phone, she's whipping out
Speaker 3: the receipts, she's got her hostage, she's sitting on the
Speaker 3: end of her bed. This woman can't go anywhere.
Speaker 2: And they're not even friends. They're not even friends.
Speaker 3: We've never seen sense two women together, whereas she is
Speaker 3: really but you know, Bose again a brilliant read. She's going,
Speaker 3: you know, is she just giving me her sign or
Speaker 3: is she trying to win me over. I'm in a
Speaker 3: vulnerable moment. I'm tired, I've just had surgery. She sent
Speaker 3: me flowers. Now she wants to pop by and she's
Speaker 3: holding out her phone with the receipts and these photos
Speaker 3: of Dereet and oh my god, can we talk about that,
Speaker 3: because she must have had that saved in her favorites.
Speaker 3: She pulled that up way too quickly. And is this
Speaker 3: the reason why she's so pissed at dread? Maybe this
Speaker 3: is the piece of the puzzle we haven't been getting told.
Speaker 7: And there was a whole rumor about how Drea has
Speaker 7: a thing from O and it was all over the
Speaker 7: n got to go and defend it and listen that.
Speaker 7: So don't even get me freaking started about sending stupid memes.
Speaker 6: They say a hit dog gone holler, Kyle is hollering.
Speaker 2: I don't believe it.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I believe that when you have
Speaker 1: saved a photo like that. To me, that is something
Speaker 1: I would do to gather some false evidence, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like she was like, I've got
Speaker 1: to go around and see Boseman. She's had this surgery.
Speaker 1: This is my opportunity, my opportunity to convince her of
Speaker 1: my side of the story. What can I say to
Speaker 1: convince Boseman, who's very clever, I can't give her nothing.
Speaker 1: I've got to give her some hardcore evidence. And yes,
Speaker 1: that's been a storyline that's been around for a while
Speaker 1: now behind the scenes, about the hand on Marizio and
Speaker 1: the fingers going up and down, seeming as though it's
Speaker 1: a little bit more affectionate than what we would imagine
Speaker 1: she should be doing to a girlfriend's husband. But I
Speaker 1: just feel like it's being used to get Bozman on
Speaker 1: her side. I don't necessarily still think that's the reason
Speaker 1: why she's so pissed off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's again, If it's not that, what the
Speaker 3: hell is it? What the hell is it? And I
Speaker 3: think one thing that I started to realize during this
Speaker 3: episode as we watched it play out, when to just
Speaker 3: move away slightly. But when Sutton brought up the infidelity comment, around,
Speaker 3: you know, when they were having that morning teething with
Speaker 3: Sutton and Garcel and Kyle, and she was saying, you know,
Speaker 3: all this sort of stuff, and then Sutton says, well,
Speaker 3: you've had infidelity too, So it is a similar situation.
Speaker 3: The look on Kyle's face, the absolute deer in the headlights,
Speaker 3: but also the anger that you could tell was underneath
Speaker 3: her eyes when she was like, why the hell would
Speaker 3: you bring that up? And I think she is expecting a.
Speaker 8: Pass, yes, but I feel like in a way it's
Speaker 8: similar to dur not infidelity, but in being angry at
Speaker 8: one another.
Speaker 2: But you also had infidelity. Let's not forget that. Bar
Speaker 2: it lovelape.
Speaker 3: I think she's expecting a pass for hiding a lot
Speaker 3: of secrets, and I think we're starting to realize that.
Speaker 3: I think she never told us the reason her and
Speaker 3: Mo broke up. Now she's not really telling us the
Speaker 3: truth of why she's angry at Dereit. As we find
Speaker 3: out later in the episode, she's now not telling us
Speaker 3: the truth about her relationship with pKa. And I think
Speaker 3: for the person that has been leading the charge on
Speaker 3: everyone trying to be open and honest for the past
Speaker 3: fourteen years, I think we're now starting to realize she
Speaker 3: is not she is hiding stuff.
Speaker 1: She knows what she's doing. I mean, if you've been
Speaker 1: on a show like this for fifteen years all up,
Speaker 1: you know, fourteen seasons, but fifteen years of filming. At
Speaker 1: this point, she knows that if you talk about it
Speaker 1: on camera, if you answer these women's questions on camera,
Speaker 1: it will.
Speaker 2: Be on the show.
Speaker 1: So what we saw in this episode is two very
Speaker 1: strong deflections from her, and she was really put on
Speaker 1: the spot. I don't think anyone has ever dared to
Speaker 1: really ask Kyle Richards these questions like that country club
Speaker 1: with Garcel and Sutton.
Speaker 2: To me, they had more balls.
Speaker 1: Bringing that stuff up than there were tennis balls being
Speaker 1: hit around that court. I'm like, you need to have
Speaker 1: your head checked if you're going to go for Kyle
Speaker 1: Richards on camera like that. And she used to be
Speaker 1: the master at deflection, but we saw her very clearly
Speaker 1: look annoyed and then choose to go somewhere else with
Speaker 1: the conversation. What she should have said was your country
Speaker 1: club is fucked, You've asked me a question that I'm
Speaker 1: not happy with, or she should have said, you're right
Speaker 1: and then finally addressed the infidelity, not just from Maurizio,
Speaker 1: but from her with Morgan Waite. It's not just an
Speaker 1: infidelity claim for Maurizio, it's an infidelity claim for.
Speaker 2: Both of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And this is something else that she's
Speaker 3: now been hiding, Like we saw your tattoo that woman
Speaker 3: or her tattoo you or whatever, and now we're not
Speaker 3: allowed to say your name and she's not getting mentioned,
Speaker 3: and it's like she never existed. I never knew the
Speaker 3: true relationship status. We never knew what happened there. We
Speaker 3: don't know why she suddenly can't say her name, but
Speaker 3: she was happy to be on the TV before. Again,
Speaker 3: it's another thing where we as the viewers are now
Speaker 3: realizing she hasn't been completely open and honest. Is she
Speaker 3: expecting a pass because she's an OG and she's thinking, well,
Speaker 3: I'll give you something, but I'm not going to give
Speaker 3: you everything. What the fuck are you going to do
Speaker 3: about it? Is it that kind of attitude? And we
Speaker 3: heard Crystal Minkoff when she started doing her podcast basically
Speaker 3: recount that story when she was hired and they said
Speaker 3: to her, this is Kyle Richard's show, and I didn't
Speaker 3: necessarily believe it as much then, but I feel like
Speaker 3: it's stacking up. Maybe she does throw her weight around,
Speaker 3: and that's why we're not getting the full story on
Speaker 3: any of this.
Speaker 2: I think Crystal is a liah.
Speaker 1: I don't believe anything that Crystal says, like her clarity
Speaker 1: of the truth in her reunion seasons. She did three
Speaker 1: reunion seasons where three times she did try and go
Speaker 1: for Kyle with some facts that didn't quite add up.
Speaker 1: She ended up looking silly by those two attacks on Kyle.
Speaker 1: She didn't get anything out of it, and it also
Speaker 1: was sort of debunked as being not quite true. And
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that Crystal has a podcast, because that's
Speaker 1: where people go when they've been fired. But do you
Speaker 1: actually think that that Crystal podcast is going to go anywhere?
Speaker 1: Do you reckon it holds any weight whatsoever?
Speaker 3: It comments from, you know, a year or so ago.
Speaker 3: I just only just came back into my memory because
Speaker 3: I'm now watching this with slightly different eyes, and that
Speaker 3: we've always been teen Kyle and I agree, she, you know,
Speaker 3: is the glue of Beverly Hills. We cannot lose her.
Speaker 3: But I feel like the tables are starting to turn
Speaker 3: a bit on Kyle, and I think people are starting
Speaker 3: to see through this facade that she has painted as
Speaker 3: being open and honest, and I don't necessarily think she is.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about this season slowly slipping into
Speaker 1: the realization that, you know, texting p Que has become Pandygate,
Speaker 1: It's become the lucy, juicy apple juice.
Speaker 2: This season looks like it's the main.
Speaker 1: Storyline, which we're never going to get away from, like
Speaker 1: those other two storylines, is going to encapsulate the whole thing,
Speaker 1: and I don't feel for me that that's going to
Speaker 1: be enough. I feel like we're going to need to
Speaker 1: move on from texting the husband at this point or
Speaker 1: the ex husband.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing, here's where it takes the turn.
Speaker 3: What's you say? She's been on the show the whole time,
Speaker 3: she's an og Suddenly she wants to bring out receipts
Speaker 3: of the text message, which, by the way, wasn't the
Speaker 3: full thread. It was a screenshot. So what the hell
Speaker 3: was that about? Again, something that she just had saved
Speaker 3: on her favorites to her camera role. It felt very
Speaker 3: calculated that she was going to bring it out But
Speaker 3: how could she be so stupid as to walk herself
Speaker 3: into more shit because the text basically was the debunking
Speaker 3: of the whole story that she's been saying, or we
Speaker 3: don't really talk about anything, we only send memes and jokes,
Speaker 3: and then literally the text is saying, you are one
Speaker 3: of my friends. I know you have a lot of friends,
Speaker 3: but I'm also one. I would never tell anything that
Speaker 3: you've said to me, and you can trust me always
Speaker 3: or something I'm paraphrasing, but that literally put herself in
Speaker 3: the sheet because now everyone's gone, well, hang on, you
Speaker 3: do have a relationship outside of memes and jokes. You
Speaker 3: have been lying to us. You have been defending something
Speaker 3: that's not accurate.
Speaker 7: But I am also one and here if you need me.
Speaker 7: I've never repeated anything you've shared with me and never.
Speaker 5: Would Wait a minute, this is not just about memes
Speaker 5: and jokes.
Speaker 2: This is serious talk.
Speaker 8: So they have shared things about jury or relationship or
Speaker 8: whatever that no one else knows about. All this time,
Speaker 8: Kyle is really defending that it's just means, so it's
Speaker 8: not all true.
Speaker 3: But how could she be so stupid as to walk
Speaker 3: herself into it? I can't figure it. Out maybe she
Speaker 3: wants to read to turn on her.
Speaker 1: It's the hypocritical nature of what's been going down that's
Speaker 1: making people online turn against her. Now, Kyle Richards joined
Speaker 1: Kelly Ripper, who is a very famous breakfast announcer, has
Speaker 1: a very big podcast overseas, and she brought up Deret
Speaker 1: reading out text messages on camera and she said, I've
Speaker 1: been on this show for fourteen years. I have never
Speaker 1: read out messages and I never would. And then we
Speaker 1: get straight away a series where she is now reading
Speaker 1: out messages and doing exactly what her issue was with
Speaker 1: last year. And these are the threads that are being
Speaker 1: pulled at by the viewers. Is it okay to try
Speaker 1: and shift the blame when you're about to do the
Speaker 1: same thing yourself.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so true. And you know the other part
Speaker 3: of this that I'm thinking, I'm like this is Denise
Speaker 3: and Brandy Textgate two point zero, and it was basically
Speaker 3: the exact same premise where they were saying that we
Speaker 3: don't really care if you've slept with Brandy. We care
Speaker 3: that you've said I barely talk to her, I'm not
Speaker 3: friends with her, and then all of a sudden, the
Speaker 3: text receipts come out and there's pages and pages and
Speaker 3: threads and threads of texts that go back between them
Speaker 3: over a year or eighteen months. This is the same thing,
Speaker 3: So why would she be so stupid to do that?
Speaker 3: And the only thing that I can think, the only
Speaker 3: thing that I can think of, is to get their
Speaker 3: relationship to such an irreparable place, because she doesn't want
Speaker 3: it prepared. She wants to read to get so pissed
Speaker 3: at her that she's lied about the text messages, she's
Speaker 3: lied about the status of their friendship. And then Durete
Speaker 3: just kind of cuts her off because she is grasping
Speaker 3: at straws about why she should be angry to eat
Speaker 3: and I don't think anything's fully landed. So maybe she's
Speaker 3: just thinking, if I get her to get really mad
Speaker 3: at me the whole thing we've done, and I don't
Speaker 3: have to be friends with her. But I don't know
Speaker 3: why that would be unless she does think that she
Speaker 3: had something from Owen's. She's really pissed about it.
Speaker 1: Bosman said, you know, if you hit a dog, a
Speaker 1: dog will holler, you know, And that was the I
Speaker 1: thought it was quite clever of her saying that, and
Speaker 1: Kyle is one hundred percent hollering over all of this.
Speaker 1: I found the commentaryund line about the suspect like people
Speaker 1: are now suspecting that the very sort of vague post
Speaker 1: that Bozeman put up yesterday about changing something that she's
Speaker 1: been doing for the last year she's not going to
Speaker 1: do next year, which is either not coming back to
Speaker 1: Housewives or leaving this man that she's been with. I mean,
Speaker 1: they are the two options. They're the only two obvious
Speaker 1: things if you ask me that she could be talking about.
Speaker 1: Do you think that bozman has had such a difficult
Speaker 1: job being stuck between these two women in her first series,
Speaker 1: that she could quit over this.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think she's going anywhere. I think she
Speaker 3: is relishing that role. She is playing it perfectly. I
Speaker 3: can't imagine her going I really can't. I did say
Speaker 3: last week, I think it was very, very ballsy and
Speaker 3: potentially problematic to put that guy on camera when they'd
Speaker 3: only been dating three months, and then to come on
Speaker 3: this week and say, oh my god, I'm going to
Speaker 3: look into having a baby with him. I've only been
Speaker 3: seen him. He might leave me a baby, a baby.
Speaker 1: At forty seven, Like I know, that this we're living longer.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember a storyline on The Golden Girls
Speaker 1: where br As Dorothy was going to have a baby,
Speaker 1: because I don't know about you, but I don't know
Speaker 1: many people are having babies when they're nearly fifty.
Speaker 3: Did Diana Jenkins had a baby at forty seven? And
Speaker 3: then I think she had that other one at forty
Speaker 3: nine when she stopped being on the show. Like they
Speaker 3: can do things like that. I'm not against any of that,
Speaker 3: Like you do what you want to do. The issue
Speaker 3: that I was like is that she'd been with the
Speaker 3: guy a hot minute, and I just thought, Oh, if
Speaker 3: you're planning all these sort of things around a guy
Speaker 3: that you've been dating for two seconds, I just would
Speaker 3: have thought she would have been a little bit more
Speaker 3: careful than that. I don't think she's leaving the Housewives,
Speaker 3: and I really hope that she doesn't. I'm loving her
Speaker 3: reads on everyone. Her confessionals are so sharp, so savvy.
Speaker 3: I'm all teambos.
Speaker 1: I've been doing the noises as well, which I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's cultural appropriation, but I've been doing and
Speaker 1: I've been doing that to my partner when we have conversations.
Speaker 1: He'll say something that's a little controversial and I'll be like.
Speaker 3: Oooh ooh, I love it, bit amazing. What do you
Speaker 3: think is going on with this? Kyle and dureat thing though, like,
Speaker 3: what do you think the real source of it is?
Speaker 3: Because Bo's you know, to bring it back to her.
Speaker 3: In that conversation she's having with Kyle, she says, Look,
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of besties, and people sometimes get
Speaker 3: confused in the midst of all of that. Maybe Durret
Speaker 3: thought you were her genuine bestie, her one and only,
Speaker 3: but in your mind, she's one of gazillion, and they're
Speaker 3: not looking at the friendship in the same way. And
Speaker 3: that is why Duret is so her and why Kyle's
Speaker 3: a bit Latin.
Speaker 1: What do you think is I've got friends like this?
Speaker 1: Deret is the type of girl who stays at home
Speaker 1: most of the time, looking after the children and is
Speaker 1: quite insular, you know, and in her mind has a
Speaker 1: distortion of what the friendship level she has. Kyle Richards
Speaker 1: reminds me of that girlfriend though that's on the phone
Speaker 1: that turns up with the flowers, that's the first one
Speaker 1: to hold the baby. She does all the work because
Speaker 1: she's up at five in the morning. She's doing a
Speaker 1: lot of face to FaceTime with a lot of people,
Speaker 1: a lot of friends. Where dereats the type of girl
Speaker 1: that I've met who was a stay at home personality
Speaker 1: and puts a lot of pressure, in a lot of
Speaker 1: weight on a few select people that they think that
Speaker 1: they're better friends with. Kyle and Deret are actually the
Speaker 1: closest housewives in walking distance to one another. I found
Speaker 1: this out this week. If Durrett was actually friends with Kyle,
Speaker 1: don't you think that she'd walked down the road and
Speaker 1: have a conversation with her once, you know, in the
Speaker 1: eight years that they've been friends, like.
Speaker 3: Really that they did. This is what This is where
Speaker 3: I'm confused, And this is where I was like, I
Speaker 3: was always confused with Kyle diminishing the friendship to a
Speaker 3: certain extent because when you watch back on the old seasons,
Speaker 3: particularly around COVID, they're in the same pod, so they're
Speaker 3: at each other's house, the kids are there, they're having
Speaker 3: knick a dinner. The robbery happened, Kyle and Mauricio and
Speaker 3: PK are all in that scene together, very emotional. The
Speaker 3: first people to like look after dereat. Those are all
Speaker 3: very real life moments. Kyle and Mauriso were there for them.
Speaker 3: Something has changed on Kyle's end why she hates to
Speaker 3: read so much. She doesn't want to tell us the truth,
Speaker 3: and that is why we're getting fed a load of
Speaker 3: bullshit excuses. I feel like we need to get down
Speaker 3: to what she's really pissed about. The irony is the
Speaker 3: one thing she would have the real right to be
Speaker 3: pissed about is watching that reunion back where Durite read
Speaker 3: her message out. But we've never actually been told from
Speaker 3: Kyle that that was the reason she was angry. We
Speaker 3: got fed at all these other things like Bravo, watch
Speaker 3: What Happens Live, stupid shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know.
Speaker 3: What it is, but there's something deeper there for her
Speaker 3: to get that angry at that dinner. Something more is there.
Speaker 1: I thought that the mean girl moment of this episode,
Speaker 1: and we keep seeing the mean girl moment being owned
Speaker 1: by Sutton. I felt like it was really sweet of
Speaker 1: her to backtrack with Erka because they've had a very
Speaker 1: complicated friendship. To backtrack and offer her a pizza party
Speaker 1: was great, But I have a real issue with exclusion,
Speaker 1: and whilst Urte and Kyle were it at each other's
Speaker 1: throats and they have been continuously, and while Durite has
Speaker 1: made it pretty clear that she thinks that Sutton is
Speaker 1: not a great person, I just felt them all doing
Speaker 1: something nice for Erica was poor form to leave Derite
Speaker 1: at home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, particularly when Sutton was trying to lead that
Speaker 3: sisterhood charge. But again, this is Dereat. I mean, sorry
Speaker 3: Sutton and her volatility and what we've talked about, Like,
Speaker 3: she actually has no idea how much Erica hates her.
Speaker 3: Erica is like, could not want to be further away
Speaker 3: from Sutton. She doesn't like her at all, and Ston's
Speaker 3: just got no idea. And now she's sort of organizing
Speaker 3: this pizza party, which again, okay, nice gesture, but like
Speaker 3: you were already fighting with Erica about stuff before, so
Speaker 3: she just she just flips and changes. She's all over
Speaker 3: the shop. There's no consistency there. But to your point,
Speaker 3: she knows that Erica is very good friends with Dereat,
Speaker 3: and so to not invite her, I agree, it's not cool.
Speaker 1: It was a shitty thing to do. It was a
Speaker 1: shitty thing to do to Deread but it actually was
Speaker 1: a really shitty, very intentional well yeah, but it was
Speaker 1: absolutely a conscious move to do that to Erica, which
Speaker 1: I thought put Erica in a really bad position because
Speaker 1: Eric has got to be like, thank you for taking
Speaker 1: me to chuck you cheese, but also, you left my
Speaker 1: friend at home and you excluded her in a moment
Speaker 1: that probably she should have been here for, and now
Speaker 1: that's going to upset her for no good reason, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Well, it was it was basically Sarton doing a big
Speaker 3: f you saying Okay, well I've told you i'm your
Speaker 3: friends to eat and you treated me like she at
Speaker 3: the Viber room and so you don't get to come
Speaker 3: to the beizza party. But again, it's the mean girl
Speaker 3: thing that we've been saying. What Bose was saying about Suttin,
Speaker 3: she's either very calculated or she's a bit d Lulu,
Speaker 3: And I think that was a move that we saw
Speaker 3: It was calculated for sure.
Speaker 2: Bitter column Ae, Bitter Columbee.
Speaker 1: Well, Gasel has done nothing but stir the pot right
Speaker 1: from the start of the season, and considering that she
Speaker 1: didn't even own a pot or a stirring wand she
Speaker 1: has done nothing for years and now she is doing
Speaker 1: it every single episode.
Speaker 2: I was blown away, more so with.
Speaker 1: Her comment about you just be a lesbian over the
Speaker 1: infidelity statement from Sutton earlier in the episode.
Speaker 2: I thought that bold.
Speaker 1: You know, if you just want to be a lesbian,
Speaker 1: be a lesbian, I'm going to be one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: What oh what.
Speaker 3: Do you want to doever?
Speaker 2: You want to be y? You want to be a lesbian?
Speaker 2: Be a lesbians?
Speaker 1: It was almost like the infidelity question from Sutton. I
Speaker 1: could see how you could sort of take that to
Speaker 1: different spaces, but that was basically the first time we've
Speaker 1: heard anyone say are you a lesbian?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and again she just deflected, She just laughed, She
Speaker 3: laughed the whole thing off. So I feel like she
Speaker 3: definitely like those two girls have thought, Okay, we're going
Speaker 3: to try and get a bit more out of this
Speaker 3: Kyle juice. We're going to get it. We're going to
Speaker 3: squeeze it a bit harder and see if we get
Speaker 3: anything else. They're trying to drop those little comments, the jabs,
Speaker 3: and they're trying to get a reaction. Kyle, being the
Speaker 3: master that she is after all these seasons, is deliberately
Speaker 3: I think trying to not give them what they want.
Speaker 3: I think she takes a little pause. You see her
Speaker 3: take a little pause, and then she swallows her shop
Speaker 3: and then she deflects.
Speaker 2: As you say, we've seen this before.
Speaker 1: This is a little bit history of repeating to me,
Speaker 1: are we letting ourselves up to an LVP moment? Because
Speaker 1: when you try and make an og accountable of bad
Speaker 1: behavior that's been consistently a part of their story from
Speaker 1: the start. We learned from LVP that there will be
Speaker 1: a walkout, and we now are hearing whispers from Bravo
Speaker 1: that Kyle will walk out after next week's episode and
Speaker 1: then take a few weeks off the show. I think
Speaker 1: it's dangerous when people want answers so badly that they
Speaker 1: back these women into a corner that they can't be
Speaker 1: on the show anymore.
Speaker 3: Well, this is the dance that happens with reality TV.
Speaker 3: You know, we think we're watching everything and there's clearly
Speaker 3: stuff that is being hit it. And it's the same
Speaker 3: with pe came to Read's marriage, it was the same
Speaker 3: with Erica and Tom's marriage, Kyle and Maurice. We don't
Speaker 3: know anything except that everything's perfect until these bombshells get
Speaker 3: dropped and suddenly things are over, or these friendships are
Speaker 3: over or whatever. And we are saying, as we do
Speaker 3: to politicians or whatever, you've signed up for this job.
Speaker 3: You're getting paid the big bucks. This is what we
Speaker 3: expect in return. And I think there is an ego
Speaker 3: that comes with being the glue, the og the one
Speaker 3: that the whole show is centered around. I think she's
Speaker 3: very close with Andy Cohen, and I think she's gone, Okay, well,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you all of that and
Speaker 3: it's not going to make one damn bit of difference.
Speaker 3: But these women think otherwise, and they're going to hold
Speaker 3: her to account like she's tried to hold everyone else
Speaker 3: to account.
Speaker 1: Be foreshadowing something though, that the next week's episode is
Speaker 1: going to have to unpack because with Kyle not really
Speaker 1: being very clever, as you said earlier in the pod,
Speaker 1: you know, she wasn't very clever with showing those messages.
Speaker 1: None of those women said anything, None of them said
Speaker 1: anything at all. They allowed her to show those messages,
Speaker 1: and I think the fact that they haven't said anything
Speaker 1: and they're saving it for their piece to camera, they're
Speaker 1: saving it clearly to go and tell diurit later so
Speaker 1: that this explodes for Kyle. I thought was really poor formed.
Speaker 1: It was weak for these women not to say, hang
Speaker 1: on a sec that.
Speaker 2: Doesn't add up.
Speaker 1: You've now gone around and settle of this, so now
Speaker 1: you can't do it.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it shows the power that Kyle has and
Speaker 3: the fear that they have about going against her, because
Speaker 3: you're right. They all you could see in the moment
Speaker 3: they all clocked it. They were like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: he on a second, and then they said it in
Speaker 3: their pieces to camera, like this is inaccurate. You have
Speaker 3: been bullshitting us. Oh I'm really swearing.
Speaker 2: A lot today, Polage, I love it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, they all sat there silence. Unless there's a
Speaker 3: continuation of that conversation that we yet to see potentially
Speaker 3: on next week's episode, you better believe that they they
Speaker 3: all clocked that and they were like, uh uh. And
Speaker 3: I feel like once that's start, once they've all sort
Speaker 3: of start to turn on her at the one time
Speaker 3: going to crack the irony again about the whole situation,
Speaker 3: if anyone was doing this to Mauricio, if any one
Speaker 3: of those women were texting Mauricio separately from her in
Speaker 3: any way shape or form while they were going through
Speaker 3: their split. You better believe she would have held their
Speaker 3: feet to the fire.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, very similar to if you know the final
Speaker 1: scene of Wicked, you know, where all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Alphaba turns into a wicked Witch of the West and
Speaker 1: flies off into the sky, a defining gravity moment for
Speaker 1: Kyle Richards. She would be absolutely ropable and probably would
Speaker 1: never really return until someone threw a bucket of water
Speaker 1: on her. How many Alana macleans are you giving this episode? Oh?
Speaker 3: This was up there. This was up there with the
Speaker 3: best that we've seen this season. I feel like it
Speaker 3: had all the twists and turns. I feel like, coming
Speaker 3: off the back of last week's episode that we were
Speaker 3: pretty disappointed with, I'm going to give this one four
Speaker 3: point five. I think this had bombshells, revelations. I think
Speaker 3: candid comments, lies, deceptions, friendships, allies, you know, sides chosen.
Speaker 3: It had the lot I'm going to give it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm coming with you with the four and a half.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 1: But again, the reason why it four and a half
Speaker 1: is because Kyle Richards was the main character of this episode.
Speaker 1: She was in basically every scene, and I am a
Speaker 1: rd or die with Kyle Richards. Doesn't matter how many
Speaker 1: mistakes she seems to be making this season, I still
Speaker 1: am on her side. And it's funny. I saw my
Speaker 1: sister last night. I said, you watching Housewives? She was
Speaker 1: like yep, said what's your stance on Kyle? And she said,
Speaker 1: I see no wrong? I see no wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm different to you guys here, I'm seeing the wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm team to reat on this one. And I just
Speaker 3: think she is carrying this season on her back. Honey.
Speaker 3: She is just clopped in and I love I love
Speaker 3: the fact that she's not going to let Kyle get
Speaker 3: away with it.
Speaker 2: I really don't think she's gonna let Kyle get away
Speaker 2: with it. I actually feel as.
Speaker 1: Though I can't wait for next week's episode, Like I
Speaker 1: feel like I need to see it now, and I
Speaker 1: may just watch the first seven minutes because apparently the
Speaker 1: first seven minutes is already out. And I try not
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, each week, but I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm compelled. I guess I really just want to
Speaker 1: see the white wardrobe. What if you call a dressing
Speaker 1: gown moment? And they're not going to They are clearly
Speaker 1: going to take us to that at the end of
Speaker 1: next episode and then drag it into the next.
Speaker 3: It's going to be a day spar day gone very wrong.
Speaker 3: I cannot wait. Bring it on.
Speaker 1: Are you doing a day spar this weekend? What's happening
Speaker 1: with you? What's on for the weekend?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 3: I might, now I might, it might be inspired. Look,
Speaker 3: I think it's a low key weekend, which I'm kind
Speaker 3: of enjoying at the moment before things ramp up again.
Speaker 3: I'm sort of in that little spot, you know, where
Speaker 3: I didn't fill the calendar up too much and I'm
Speaker 3: living for it.
Speaker 2: I got one word for you, Italy. You've got to
Speaker 2: save for Italy, so I do.
Speaker 3: And I have to save up for a Cabby Hilton hat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm starting to think even I want one of those.
Speaker 1: I'll be looking up to children again this weekend. For
Speaker 1: a man who doesn't have any children, I seem to
Speaker 1: have children a lot on the weekend.
Speaker 2: So going to take them.
Speaker 1: To the arcade and to the movies, the movie so
Speaker 1: that I can have a nap in the cinema, just
Speaker 1: like any good uncle.
Speaker 3: That's so smart and that just you've checked off two
Speaker 3: hours off you babysitting duties. You're a smart cookie, Benjamin Norris.
Speaker 1: I'm taking them to Wicked because it goes for three hours,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to have myself. Oh Wicked Slate, great
Speaker 1: chat as always.
Speaker 2: Cannot wait for next week.
Speaker 3: Obsessed, obsessed with you, obsessed with the show. Catch next week.
Speaker 3: Bye Darling I