1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,520 Speaker 1: But we know that. 2 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 2: Last week we learned the long planned National Gallery for 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 2: First Nations Art in Alice Springs has been officially canceled 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: by the Northern Territory government. Now Alice Springs is no 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: longer going to host the proposed Aboriginal and Torres Strait 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 2: Islander Art Gallery of Australia after nearly a decade of discussion, 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: design changes and funding wrangling. Now it was originally earmarked 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: as we know Franzac Oval with the federal and Northern 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: Territory government contributions totaling over one hundred and forty million. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: That project or the project then saw multiple redesigns and 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: location shifts before hitting a political and financial in pass. 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: Now the cancelation has generated concern from local businesses and 13 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: also art groups who viewed the gallery as a major 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 2: cultural and economic opportunity for the region. Now joining us 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: on the line is the Federal Member for Lingiari, Marion Scrimjaw. 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Marion, Good morning Katie. 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: How are you? 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Yare really good? Good time have you on the show now? 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Marion? 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: The Treasurer Bill Yan took game at you last week. 21 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: He claimed that you are the reason that this isn't 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: going ahead because you'd launched a campaign to have the 23 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: gallery move to desert knowledge halfway between Alice Springs and 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: the airport. Is that the case? 25 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: Oh look, Katie, I think it was. I think it was. 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: You know, I was off sick last week, but I 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: heard both the Treasurer and the Chief Minister both talking 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: about political ideology and also you know political you know, 29 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: just the killing of the whole project. Now, can I 30 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: say as local member, I have tried to work with 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: both the Territory Labor government when they were in government 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: and that there were concerns which we'd work through and 33 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: that we're having conversations about. And then that they lost 34 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: government and then there was continuing to work with the CLP. 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: So my calling out and talking and objecting to this 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: project wasn't just under the CLP. I had concerned with 37 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: the Territory Labor government and that current you know, the 38 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: proposal that was on the table. Now, it wasn't the 39 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: federal government that changed the scope of that project, Katie. 40 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: It was the Territory CLP government and that's their proviative. 41 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: They realized that the cost of the project was going 42 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: to be had costed blown out so they went and 43 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: they re scote the project. Now, under the agreement between 44 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: the federal government and the Northern Territory government, Andy changes 45 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: needed to go back to the Federal Minister and they 46 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: had to be sign off in terms of any changes 47 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: that were being done. Now what was being proposed, Katie, 48 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: I had a real issue where we'd walked away from 49 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: what was going to be a nationally significant, you know, 50 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: iconic building to a building that was going to be 51 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: put in a car park. And I think that and 52 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: we're not talking about a Bunning pier. We're talking about 53 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: a building that was going to have some of the 54 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, some fantastic collections, but also be a peace 55 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: you know, an institution that this town, this country, but 56 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: also so we can all be proud of and that 57 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: this could be the attraction that Alice Springs, but also 58 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: the Northern Territories are needed. So it was I had 59 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: always said Cutie's size and location was an issue for me. 60 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: And if they were changing the scope and given the location, Katie, 61 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: look it was they were planking the buildings straight across 62 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: the road from the Todd Tavern, the Tod's tavern, you know, 63 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: like I'm sorry you can't say to people you respect 64 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: and you know average art and culture and the stories 65 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: and everything associated with that, we you know what we 66 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: support and then in the next instance plonker it straight 67 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: across the roads and another institution where the impact of 68 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: grog and gambling and violence and all of that stuff, 69 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, like to the two don't meet. So I 70 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: was hoping that you know, both the federal government and ourselves, 71 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, ourselves and the Northern Arty government would be 72 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: big enough to be able to say, okay, look, let's 73 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: let's try and get consensus here and look at where 74 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: do we need to relocate this project. 75 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 2: So we're too now Marian because obviously the Northern Territory 76 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: government said, well not we're not delivering it. But do 77 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: you say potential here that the federal government will just 78 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 2: do something on their own. 79 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: Look, I think that one of the things that I 80 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: have done Katie today is written to the Prime Minister 81 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: and all of the relevant executive ministers of the Federal 82 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: Cabinet to make sure that the commitment to Alice Springs 83 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 1: we don't walk away from that. There has to be 84 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: a plan that goes forward for Alice Springton and the 85 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: commitment that we gave for the eighty million dollars. So 86 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying to the Prime Minister and my side of government, 87 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: we agreed to this. This was an election commitment that's 88 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: not going to happen. But maybe there needs to be 89 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: a repurposing of the money and the grand and let's 90 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: work with the native titleholders, let's work with the business community, 91 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: tourism Central austra that the Alice Ringtown Council. There's a 92 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: whole lot of people that I'm lining up today to 93 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: meet with some conversations with Katie because I think it's 94 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: too important to play, uh you know the pedagat Well, 95 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: we're going to take our battom ball and we're going 96 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: to go home and we're not going to play anymore 97 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: because that doesn't help the town and I think Alice 98 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Springs deserves better than that. 99 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: Can you do it without the Northern Territory government? Marion? 100 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: Because it sounds you know like obviously this is this 101 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: is a good thing. You're writing to the Prime Minister. 102 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: You still want to see that money invested into Central Australia. 103 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 2: I know people will be listening and sort of going, 104 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: how do you think you'll be able to make it happen, though, Marion, 105 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: when you know former governments and former chief ministers before 106 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: you haven't been able to. 107 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, because we've just got to get everyone at 108 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: the table, Katie. I think that there's been there's been 109 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: so much so that the place the anzac Oval and 110 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: we know and I'm not just pointing the finger at 111 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: the clp here, we all know that it's taken. It 112 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: was eight nine years and everyone was talking about this projection, 113 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: nothing had happened, things were about to happen, and then 114 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Labor lost the election. However, you can't change what's you know, 115 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: the history of that. But what we need to do 116 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: is move forward. Ideally it would be good to get 117 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: the anti governments back at the taping, but I'm not 118 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: going to stop the progression of my responsibility in writing 119 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: to the Prime Minister or other ministers waiting for the 120 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: anti government to come on board. I think if we can, 121 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: if the federal government can show commitments for this. There's 122 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: an existing Commonwealth entity that's here, and it's the Aboriginal 123 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: Islander torrest Raight Islander Institute, which looks at a lot 124 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: of this. They're already established in Alice data drive this 125 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: process with the Northern Territory and it takes it away 126 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: from politicians and the politics that work with the business community, 127 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: with Native titleholders, with everyone to pull something together and 128 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: content that's going to enhance the economics opportunities. But also 129 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: that's right, you know, the heart of Australia and what 130 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: we're you know, what this movement is all about. 131 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Here, Brian. I also want to ask you this morning. 132 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 2: We have always got a few people getting in contact 133 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: with us about the urgent care clinic in Catherine. Are 134 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: there any updates there now? 135 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: Look, I'm about to follow that up Katie. We did 136 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: before the election. There was a lot of conversations and 137 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: I know that Tristan, who used to be in my 138 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: Catherin office is now down here. We're having conversations with 139 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people in Catherine to try and look 140 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: at establishing an urgent care clinic on the back the 141 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: heads down that way. I was supposed to go last 142 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: week that I unfortunately ended up with a really a 143 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: terrible viral infection which knocked me for six and had 144 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 1: me you know, both hostalized for a day and a 145 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: bison and then at home. But hopefully we can hurry 146 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: up and deal with Catherine is in need of an 147 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: urgent care clinic. I absolutely agree with that, and I 148 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: think we need to We need to have a look 149 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: at and work with the existing health providers. Life was 150 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: done here in Alice Springs the urgent care clinic, which 151 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: is open to everyone. Katie. It's not just an Aboriginal 152 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 1: that expert the whole community. It's run by Congress. How 153 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: do we do that. We need to do the same 154 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: in Catherine. Whether it's Bohemia Health, whether it's Cathern West, 155 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,599 Speaker 1: whether it's Whirly. There are plenty of health providers in 156 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: Catherine and we need to work with those health providers 157 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: to time if we can set up emergent. 158 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: Marion, I know your press for time, as am I. 159 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: I've only got a couple of minutes, but I do 160 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: want to ask you because we were just talking to 161 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: the Chief Minister a little earlier this morning about the 162 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: health care system. You know, people were in contact with 163 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: us about Royal Darwin Hospital and also the ambulances, and 164 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: you know the demand on the health system. I know 165 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: that it's not limited to Darwin. I'm sure in Alice 166 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: Springs as well, that there are certainly areas within the 167 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 2: health care system that might need some additional funding. I mean, 168 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: you know, not to go too deeply into your terrible 169 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 2: viral infection last week, but how'd you go, I mean 170 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 2: being in hospital for a couple of days. Do you 171 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: think that there does need to be some further investment 172 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: into our healthcare system across the Northern Territory. We know 173 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: that our doctors and nurses work bloody hard, everybody in 174 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: the healthcare system, but there is no doubt we're falling 175 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: a bit short. 176 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: Look, Katie, we can always put you know, the health 177 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: system always needs more and more money, and I know 178 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: that federally part of the Hospital and Agreement and nothing. 179 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: So long ago I had a conversation with Steve Edgington 180 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: as the Northern Territory Health Minister about how the federal 181 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: government and the Northern Territory need to work together in 182 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: terms of the new hospital agreement so that those talks 183 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: are progressing. Katie, I think, Look, I think it's faced 184 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: every government, whether it's CLP, whether it's labor. There will 185 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: always be a bottomless pit when it comes to the 186 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: healthcare and the cost of health care. And unfortunately, you 187 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: know we do need to look at age care as 188 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: part of that, because a lot of those beds in 189 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: hospitals are taken up by people in age care. And 190 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: I know that we are putting together, you know, some 191 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: funding proposals and building of age per facilities so you 192 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: can clear those beds, mental health and other big issue 193 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: KD you know, like it's I was listening to the 194 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: incidents that happened in the rural area on the weekend. 195 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: Some of that is in the ies and we need 196 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: to have a look at how do we get better services, 197 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: both resourcing in terms of funding, but also the capacity 198 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: for organizations, not just police but organizations to deal with 199 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: and to make sure that people can feel safe in 200 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: the community. Yes, that we get the services, you know, 201 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 1: the right services happening, and that people in the community 202 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 1: can feel confident that you know, government is responding to 203 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: So on that. 204 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: One Marian, you know, for those residents out in the 205 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: rural area, does that fall under your electorate or under 206 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: Luke Gosling's that how it springs, because I do know 207 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: that we need to follow it up up. 208 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that the person who put in the complaint 209 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: did write to my office. I received that on Friday, Katie. 210 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: The letter might have come in or the email might 211 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: have come in. I'm following that up. I was listening 212 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: to your show before, but the person did, right, and 213 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: I know that it is an NDS issue. Yes, so 214 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: we are following that up. That is that does fall 215 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: into so how it springs, which is in the you know, 216 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: the top part of lingy are Well, please let us not. 217 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: We'll we'll chase you up on that one because I 218 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: know it's a really important one and people are pretty 219 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: upset about some of these. Uh, you know, some people 220 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: that are maybe with an NDIS provider that are not 221 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: behaving appropriately, making threats to kill in this instance, you know, 222 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: and they feel like they've got absolutely no recourse in 223 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: terms of, you know, trying to follow it up, trying 224 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 2: to get them out, trying to make sure their families 225 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: are safe. 226 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look everyone, it's I had a look at 227 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: those emails this morning and we'll be responding back to 228 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: the people who've sent through those emails. Katie's to follow 229 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: up with the with the department in terms of back 230 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: client and to see what what next, what steps next 231 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: to be done. 232 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Marian scrimsor the member for LINGIARI really appreciate 233 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: your time. I hope you're on the mend as well. 234 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: Sounds like you had a terrible virus. 235 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: Ah, look it was I wouldn't want to wish it 236 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: on my worst enemy, Katie. It's certainly not to be 237 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: for six and you know, but I'm we're still recovering, 238 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: but it's a lot better than I was a week ago. 239 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Let me tell you well. 240 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time this morning. I hope you're feeling 241 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: better soon. Thank you so much for having your chat 242 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: this morning. 243 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: No hurry see Thank you.