WEBVTT - 🧍‍♂️+👫Should You Have A Back-up Boy 👀

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<v Speaker 1>It's my worst and I haven't here.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me about this hair who flex and rooms?

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<v Speaker 1>It's lex and brooms cater.

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<v Speaker 3>Today we're talking about whether or not having a backup

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<v Speaker 3>boy is a bad thing. So this essentially refers to

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<v Speaker 3>when you have a partner and then you have someone

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<v Speaker 3>waiting in the wings.

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to introduce a concept that I have

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<v Speaker 2>called next in line please, and it's when you see

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<v Speaker 2>someone who is eligible and you're not that close with them,

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<v Speaker 2>but you think to yourself, I'd like to be next

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<v Speaker 2>in line for you once that relationship deteriorates, I would

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<v Speaker 2>like to be considered damn.

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<v Speaker 3>And also I have found out through a woman called

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<v Speaker 3>Emily Naysmith who runs Ingridipedia podcast the especially ingredient in Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>Mun's my favorite snack from Baker's Delight.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe that's what they're.

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<v Speaker 3>Called, mate, I know. Just just you wait for this one.

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<v Speaker 3>It's flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. This is flex and frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm cater, make nomous, I get myself around a bakery,

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<v Speaker 3>treat give me a little Baker's Delight. Tell me why

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to my local rumbies and I'm loving the

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<v Speaker 3>little hats they're wearing.

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<v Speaker 2>So you like corporate bake treats.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind both. I'd prefer one.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the ones that have the bread and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like not sour dough, like the ones where give me

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<v Speaker 3>the white sluiced with the slaugh so police and the

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<v Speaker 3>little tiny pizzas. Now I came across this podcast. It's

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<v Speaker 3>called ingredia Pedia, ingreedy Pedia.

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<v Speaker 2>So like ingredients, like an encyclopedia of ingredients.

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<v Speaker 1>Ingreedypedia exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is by a woman called Emily Nay Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie. I don't know what the man's

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<v Speaker 3>name is. And however, and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We are on a bit of a tight schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>It's podcast and this radio show, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Research in fact checking could not happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the other day on Emily's story, she posted it

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<v Speaker 3>about Boston buns.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're these like.

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<v Speaker 3>Bunge you can get it from Brumbies or baker like.

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<v Speaker 3>They are like a long bun or somethings, like a

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<v Speaker 3>round bun, and they've got the icing.

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<v Speaker 2>And the desecrated coconut.

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<v Speaker 3>The desecrated, desecrated, desecrated is like when someone's dead. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a desicated coconut.

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<v Speaker 2>They're too close for me.

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<v Speaker 3>And Emily talks about how she would like lick all

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<v Speaker 3>the icing off the bun. I personally like to eat

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<v Speaker 3>it whole. Well, so please be gentle. She's a big

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<v Speaker 3>fan of the podcast. You just said, Ill, Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 3>a PO, you're a post, you're a co host. And

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<v Speaker 3>I would still say, ill, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>A PO host and you're a LA.

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<v Speaker 1>Get my moment in your mouth? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't the licking that gets me. The thing about

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<v Speaker 2>licking the the the cream off the Boston bun is

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<v Speaker 2>I think I just have very uncomfortable memories of watching

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<v Speaker 2>fellow children play with food when I was younger, and

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<v Speaker 2>I really didn't like it, And now as an adult,

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<v Speaker 2>I've doubled down.

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<v Speaker 3>The same people that play with food are the ones

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<v Speaker 3>that turn their eyelids inside out. Yes, it's a very

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<v Speaker 3>particular Yes your people. No, I can't relate anyway. She

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<v Speaker 3>dropped an incredible diabolical She dropped an incredibly diabolical hard

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<v Speaker 3>fact on Instagram regarding Boston Buns and a crazy ingredient

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<v Speaker 3>that is part of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready flex Ready?

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<v Speaker 1>Episode?

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<v Speaker 4>And I came across the recipe in the New Zealand

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<v Speaker 4>Women's Weekly. This was the oldest kind of recipefore I

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<v Speaker 4>could find. And I'm just reading through the ingredients. First

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<v Speaker 4>ingredient one cup of mashed potato.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeap, what the secret ingredient of Boston buns is mashed potato?

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<v Speaker 3>There is no way, babes, I'm serious. And allegedly this started.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get to the next bit of the podcast. It

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<v Speaker 3>started in the nineteen thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>You're with Luthy when you bring in facts and dates, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Do, don't, I hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Has a little context for the mashed potato, So she says,

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<v Speaker 4>the Boston bun dates back to the earliest twentieth century

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<v Speaker 4>in Australia, where mashed and seved potatoes commonly you as

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<v Speaker 4>an economical substitute for flower in.

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<v Speaker 2>What in what world can you imagine living in a

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<v Speaker 2>world where using potato is more economical than flower?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess the potato just comes straight out

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<v Speaker 3>of the ground. Yeah, well, there you go, guys. I

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<v Speaker 3>want a bust and bud right now. We are learned girls,

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<v Speaker 3>and we love, love, love to share big important technological

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<v Speaker 3>news with you hit it.

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<v Speaker 1>Caitlin, tech Time, tech Time, tech Time.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tech time with flex and froomes on Cater put

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<v Speaker 2>it to the next level.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, we will never stop talking about AI.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we like to.

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<v Speaker 3>Think of ourselves as early adopters, and it's only a

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<v Speaker 3>matter of time before AI makes irrepairable damages or potentially positives.

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<v Speaker 1>To the world.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's humans have done worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Precisely, I mean, I don't I think we should not

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<v Speaker 3>say it's an all knowing being. Don't give it too

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<v Speaker 3>much power.

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<v Speaker 1>We can harness it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, correct final last words, famous last words. So I

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<v Speaker 3>came across the story in the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an American website.

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<v Speaker 2>We do love the Atlantic here we doy does plagiarize

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<v Speaker 2>quite a bit from the Atlantic.

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<v Speaker 1>He is it.

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<v Speaker 3>Plagiarizing if you cite the sources? Hmmm, ridle me that.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're on a new medium. It's not like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>writing it out and putting it on my newsletter. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just frooms world anyway. Allegedly, pirated copies of Margaret

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<v Speaker 3>Atwood's books are being used to train AI.

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<v Speaker 2>Pirated as well, they can afford to buy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what she said.

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<v Speaker 2>Margaret's books are no more than maybe twenty dollars a copy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I've been doing with that book.

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<v Speaker 2>Truly get it secondhand.

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<v Speaker 3>I really gotta say, guys, that's a life hack. Start

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<v Speaker 3>buying secondhand books. Some people don't like because there's like

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<v Speaker 3>weird crumbs and stuff in them. But trust me, I

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<v Speaker 3>hate buying brand new books because I'm very doggied with them.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can get into ebooks like me, they still

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<v Speaker 2>cost no.

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<v Speaker 3>I like having the physical It's a piece of art

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<v Speaker 3>every time. So they sort of say, Margaret in the

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<v Speaker 3>Atlantic took to the website to give a clap back,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will. So thirty three of her books have

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<v Speaker 3>been used as training material for wordsmithing computer programs. So

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<v Speaker 3>essentially they can say, write a Margaret Atwood novel and

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<v Speaker 3>it will glurb forth five fifty thousand words like soft

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<v Speaker 3>ice cream spiraling out of a dispenser. And essentially what

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<v Speaker 3>she's saying is that she's likening this kind of art,

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<v Speaker 3>if you not even art, she's likening this kind of

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<v Speaker 3>program to a Stepford wife. So if you ever watch

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<v Speaker 3>the Stepford Wives, I don't remember, but Nicole Kibn was

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<v Speaker 3>in it.

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<v Speaker 1>What they do.

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<v Speaker 3>Is someone maybe the husband's start making these clones of

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<v Speaker 3>their wives.

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<v Speaker 1>They do all the cooking, do everything.

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<v Speaker 3>They're really hot, but they don't have the annoying emotional

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<v Speaker 3>aspects of the actual wives, right And Margaret at what

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying, this is what they're doing with their books.

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<v Speaker 1>And it got me thinking, like.

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<v Speaker 3>If a program can come up with a Margaret Atwood

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<v Speaker 3>type style, which is like, she's a very particular style

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<v Speaker 3>of writing. Have I ever read Margaret Atwood book? Absolutely not,

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<v Speaker 3>but just from reading this article, it's my first piece

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<v Speaker 3>that I've read of hers.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a very particular tone.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it ever does it ever have life? Or is

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<v Speaker 3>it always quote unquote dead? What do you mean, like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know how some art or some movies. I was

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<v Speaker 3>reading this other thing about AI, like, sure, someone could

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<v Speaker 3>make a Christopher Nolan movie, but and it might be

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<v Speaker 3>better on paper, like it might be not as long,

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<v Speaker 3>it might have more succinct storylines. But do you reckon

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<v Speaker 3>humans have this particular kind of like innate understanding that

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<v Speaker 3>we need to know another human.

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<v Speaker 1>Made it in order to completely relate.

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<v Speaker 2>No, if people really respected the human element of creation

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<v Speaker 2>of creating media, creating art, then they wouldn't critique it

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<v Speaker 2>so heavily. I don't think it's the human element of

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<v Speaker 2>a movie or the human element of a TV show,

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<v Speaker 2>a human element of music that makes it feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people, especially these US modern day consumers who

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<v Speaker 2>would trade, you know, who would easily sub out like

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<v Speaker 2>human rights for convenience. I don't think they care that

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<v Speaker 2>the media they're consuming didn't come from a human I

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<v Speaker 2>think what makes AI. I think what makes consuming AI

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<v Speaker 2>media difficult is that it's trying really hard to be human,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not what people want. I think if you

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<v Speaker 2>told the average person you can get the new season

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<v Speaker 2>of your favorite show in half the amount of time

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<v Speaker 2>because robots made it and AI made it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like the seasons you watched thus far, people would say, yeah, great.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't mind a new Sex and the City, Oliver,

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<v Speaker 3>former Damn writer, A strike is quaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Look, I think people are fearing Okay, what in

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<v Speaker 2>this article? Where okay in this article where you're saying

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<v Speaker 2>markret Atward wrote this article for The Idea, Yeah wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So in this article where Margaret Atwood is insinuating that

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<v Speaker 2>to have AI spit out stories, right, is the equivalent

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, in the Stepward Wives, like you were

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<v Speaker 2>saying earlier, when you create this figment of a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>but you take out all the things that make her

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<v Speaker 2>quote unquote human, which in this example was the nuances

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<v Speaker 2>and the neuroticisms and like the the irritating bits. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what most people don't really like in their art. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think people get really frustrated to hear that their

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<v Speaker 2>favorite artists won't release an album because they have anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't like that. People don't like hearing that the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why they couldn't see their favorite movies because the

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<v Speaker 2>real people aren't eating because there's a writer strike. They empathize,

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<v Speaker 2>but they don't like that. Hearing about Euphoria was going

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<v Speaker 2>to come out in twenty twenty four, and now it's

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<v Speaker 2>maybe going to start filming in twenty twenty six, They

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<v Speaker 2>don't like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they gonna have all the same characters? Who knows

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be Euphoria? Like post college, like no one.

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<v Speaker 1>Can get a job vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think what people what we should be talking

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<v Speaker 2>about is this conversation about AI gives people the impression

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<v Speaker 2>they care more about people than they do.

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<v Speaker 3>It is that time of the week again. It is

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<v Speaker 3>time to get down and deep into the relationship bag.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit it, Kaylein, Hello, lovel.

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<v Speaker 3>God, you hate to be driving right now and you're

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<v Speaker 3>thinking I'm getting a call through the blue tooth. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just flexing frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've heard my phone ring like make

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<v Speaker 2>a noise since twenty eleven. Seriously, truly, well, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Went through the other day and changed all the sound

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<v Speaker 3>effects like for my messages and for my calls, and

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<v Speaker 3>I got the one that goes no, no, no. The

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<v Speaker 3>pianof it cracks me up. You just gotta add a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit of joy throughout you day. Guys, go and

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<v Speaker 3>change back to the original iPhone ones. And that's grateful

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<v Speaker 3>when you keep getting these robo calls. All right, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a love line by a listener. It's a real listener, Guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie sometimes it isn't okay, high flex

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<v Speaker 3>and frooms and Mickey, I love the pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Caitlin producer. Kaitlyn's here.

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<v Speaker 3>Kaitlyn wasn't there at the time, however, we'll extend the

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<v Speaker 3>hello to Kaitlyn. We'll extend I love the potty sm

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<v Speaker 3>so much hoped you'd get some intrigue out of my dilemma.

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<v Speaker 3>Please keep a noon, love Hut. I've been exclusive with

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<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend James for about two weeks now, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>mutually healthily obsessed. I really appreciate the preface there. The

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<v Speaker 3>other day, I was playfully rummaging around his Instagram dms

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<v Speaker 3>and he casually said, Hey, you can only look at

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<v Speaker 3>mine if I can look at yours.

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<v Speaker 1>Very bold of you to just go through straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the Yeah, just how do we get here? I

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<v Speaker 2>like that for you.

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<v Speaker 3>In the moment, I did give him back his phone.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>She said up, which hopefully doesn't make me look to

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<v Speaker 3>sus I've been thinking that if he did go through

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<v Speaker 3>my messages, he'd come across my ex long term situationship Danny.

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<v Speaker 3>We were off and on for about four years and

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<v Speaker 3>have been friends for seven years. Because of sporadic messages,

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<v Speaker 3>it wouldn't take long for James to realize Danny and

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<v Speaker 3>I weren't one hundred percent platonic. I'd flirt with him

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<v Speaker 3>and we talk about how to handle another girl coming

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<v Speaker 3>into his life. Ultimately, I do see Danny as a

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<v Speaker 3>backup even though I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>He feels safe.

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<v Speaker 3>And anyway, we live in coasts opposite the US with

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<v Speaker 3>no plans.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, are you in New York?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me any tips?

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<v Speaker 3>With no plans to move out, a move from our

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<v Speaker 3>beloved cities. My question is, when, if ever do you

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<v Speaker 3>tell my boyfriend? When, if ever, do I tell my

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<v Speaker 3>boyfriend about my ex friend? Also, what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 3>on backups? Is it wrong to be connected with that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of person when you're in a relationship if you

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<v Speaker 3>have no plans to act on it. Danny and I

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<v Speaker 3>share particular neurodive urgencies, special interests, and he's supportive in

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<v Speaker 3>the hard times. He is a genuine close friend. What

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<v Speaker 3>do I owe in this situation? Babes, listen before flex

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<v Speaker 3>opens her mouth because she's making some crazy hand movement

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<v Speaker 3>and she has her hand up against her mouth in

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<v Speaker 3>a concerned way, like when you when you find yourself

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<v Speaker 3>holding your neck, could be scared. It's give me that,

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<v Speaker 3>so let's take a little break up. Next, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get the bottom of whether or not it's okay to

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<v Speaker 3>have someone on the back burner when you're in a committed, healthy,

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<v Speaker 3>obsessed relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Flexi I've just told.

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<v Speaker 3>You the story from a listener and non of course

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<v Speaker 3>like hard. She is in a mutually committed, healthy obsessed

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with a new boyfriend. Meanwhile, she has a guy

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<v Speaker 3>on the back burner. They're in a situationship for four

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<v Speaker 3>years and friends for seven. Her BF is like, let's

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<v Speaker 3>look through each other's dms. In fact, she actually started

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<v Speaker 3>that line of query.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, Okay, if you're looking through mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to look through yours. And she says, take back, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>take the phone. Did we mention that they've been boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>and girlfriend for two weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but I'm a you know, exclusive for two weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>so who knows how long this has been a courting process.

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<v Speaker 3>She wants to know, is it okay to have Danny,

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<v Speaker 3>who's the old situationship on the backburn of if it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't work out with current boyfriend James?

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<v Speaker 1>What your thoughts? Flicks? Mummy?

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<v Speaker 2>First, I have questions, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll attempt to answer on behalf of the listener.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. So we've got a mutually healthily

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<v Speaker 2>obsessed relationship exclusive for two weeks. Yes, so one would

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<v Speaker 2>say that when you're in a mutually healthy obsessed dynamic,

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<v Speaker 2>that your eggs are in the horn basket.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, would you say personally yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we go on to say that there's Danny, the

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<v Speaker 2>situationship on and off for four years, friends for seven

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<v Speaker 2>They flirt, and they talk about how to handle another

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<v Speaker 2>girl coming into Danny's life. This listener sees Danny as

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<v Speaker 2>a backup. However, does not feel or know if Danny

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. So it's not as though like we've

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<v Speaker 2>been there, We're like, it's not the right timing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's plausible that what you're experiencing to be a situationship

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<v Speaker 2>is a platonic friendship with romantic tingencies. It's tingencies because

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<v Speaker 2>this person is a agenda you're attracted to. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if there's anything here that you should be

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about, or in the sense that I mean that,

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<v Speaker 2>like you in this moment decide what it is or isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, if they're on the back burner, then put

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<v Speaker 2>them on the back burner. Don't be keeping up the

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<v Speaker 2>flirty flirty flirty while you're in this quote unquote mutually

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<v Speaker 2>healthily obsessed dynamic. Right, And then the question what do

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<v Speaker 2>I own the situation. You don't owe anybody anything, but

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<v Speaker 2>what is your responsibility in the situation? I would say

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<v Speaker 2>often to behave in a way that sets a precedent

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<v Speaker 2>for how you expect your other half to behave. Not

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<v Speaker 2>that you hold them to that standard. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>find find out that your boyfriend James is in the

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<v Speaker 2>DMS with their friend that they've been put on the

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<v Speaker 2>back burner with, would you not feel some type of

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<v Speaker 2>way I think you might look.

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<v Speaker 3>I I am hesitant to say this because it is

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<v Speaker 3>a real list in the DM.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a bit of a a sixth sense about

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<v Speaker 3>this one. Ooh, I believe that Danny, who's the X

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<v Speaker 3>situation ship deal a little number on your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>The vibe that perhaps there are some unrequireded love there because.

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<v Speaker 1>You say you were never.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to move from opposite cities, sounds like maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>would consider it, but he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Just getting a sense.

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<v Speaker 3>There for it to go on for four years, there's

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<v Speaker 3>got to be some kind of hankering there.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I personally, that's an emotional commitment.

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<v Speaker 3>Emotional commitment and friends for seven years, where we're also

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<v Speaker 3>keeping tabs on how long that's been.

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<v Speaker 2>And also there was a vibe shift. You didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>it's been on and off for seven years. There would

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<v Speaker 2>have been three years of platonic friendship, a vibe shift

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<v Speaker 2>exchange due to one or both parties acknowledging that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just platonic. And maybe the only limitation is that

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<v Speaker 2>you're at a distance.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what we're getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because she says, you know what here, darling, You've

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<v Speaker 3>never said anything about what you and James have in common. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>you've said, Danny, who's the exitration chip, share neurodivergencies, special interests,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's supportive in the hard times. I get the

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<v Speaker 3>vibe that maybe you are potentially in love with Danny.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you would keep him on the back burner.

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<v Speaker 3>Other's not giving some random situationship that is still in

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<v Speaker 3>the DMS, A bit of a like letting.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so this is different.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just my surmising.

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<v Speaker 2>This is different. What I will say in summary, it

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<v Speaker 2>is okay to conceptually have people that are next in line. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Love is not eternal, unfortunately, and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be the dimwit who assumes that they won't be someone

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<v Speaker 2>else to move on to next. However, you shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>nurt sharing the romantic part of that relationship in any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of way while you're in a platonic no sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>while you're in a monogamous relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to agree.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but also like I reckon pay yourself on the

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<v Speaker 3>back for having options full stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like sometimes people stay in relationships that are

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<v Speaker 3>bad because they feel like there's no other option. So

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<v Speaker 3>relish in the fact that you are a woman with choices.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, definitely the choice feminism. You do have a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a bone to pick with pop culture, bear with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Pop culture would describe the pick me as historically a

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<v Speaker 2>woman who distances herself from other women to be more

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<v Speaker 2>appealing to men or the patriarchy.

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<v Speaker 3>We have make me in our midst hold on just kidding,

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<v Speaker 3>oh oh, tendencies without growing them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, rooms is the pick me in the room now

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<v Speaker 2>for those of us who For those of us who

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<v Speaker 2>have the acquainted with the very famous Gorne Girl monologue

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<v Speaker 2>in which this protagonist lists out the key features of

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<v Speaker 2>a pickney, which is oft referenced in pop culture, including

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<v Speaker 2>but not limited to it's hot dogs, never gains.

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<v Speaker 3>Weight, drinks beer yeah, and actually likes the taste, loves beer, serious,

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<v Speaker 3>watches sport, or at least gives the impression she watches

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<v Speaker 3>sport to become more appealing to men, likes doing anal

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<v Speaker 3>that was in the monologue.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in the monologue, But I don't think they

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<v Speaker 2>can use her. We can use her redacted. And with

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<v Speaker 2>that in mind, I have a fear of a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>that the sudden uptick in women in particular being more

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<v Speaker 2>interested in watching sports or liking sports more broadly because

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<v Speaker 2>of the way the social zetgeist is changing, is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be misattributed to a wide pickny issue. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that people are currently viewing the widespread nature of women

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<v Speaker 2>watching sports as a way to pander to men, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's so far from that right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you reckon people still attribute that? Look, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to say I'm going to say a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>reverse one that I hope you can bear with me,

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<v Speaker 3>because I'll be bearing with myself in this monologue. But

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<v Speaker 3>sport is not inherently something that enjoying as a woman

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<v Speaker 3>should be picked me.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that it has historically.

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<v Speaker 1>Been a pick me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you would have said that say that

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<v Speaker 2>pre well Cary.

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<v Speaker 3>Place do not do not talk over the lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm sorry, sorry, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Historically sports have been exclusionary to women. Tell me why

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<v Speaker 3>I hate going on to a pub during September. The

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<v Speaker 3>pub in Paddington absolutely raucous with feral dogs, top vibe. However,

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<v Speaker 3>so as a woman to enjoy that scenario and that subculture,

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<v Speaker 3>there had to be an element that picked me. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I got a point. Some fingers, however, now.

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<v Speaker 2>Pointing fingers, let's put them all.

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<v Speaker 3>However, now, liking sport is a different There is a

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<v Speaker 3>different essence of different genes in the pubs, in the clubs,

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<v Speaker 3>in the sporting rooms, in the alf.

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<v Speaker 2>W afl W.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm saying, babes, it should be afloat?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you say I'm with you? I guess is that

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<v Speaker 2>what you were saying? That it is it's the point

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<v Speaker 2>that I made. You've reiterated the same point, which I love,

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<v Speaker 2>which I love.

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<v Speaker 1>A woman explaining you're taking that back.

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<v Speaker 2>To that's what I'm saying. So if we're saying traditionally,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of being a pick me me is being

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<v Speaker 2>a straight woman who distances herself from her womanhood to

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<v Speaker 2>be more to pander to men him whatever we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>for us. Okay, then what is it called when women

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<v Speaker 2>pander to women? Because that's what I'm on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the sistern.

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<v Speaker 2>Gang Gang, fingerhearts, fingerhearts women pandering to women.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, there's nothing better.

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