WEBVTT - Sam Molineaux - THE SUMMIT - Reality TV Contestant 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:04.000 TV Reload, the podcast past weep that line. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.440 Welcome back, guys to TV Reload. As you may know, 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:09.040 my name is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:11.520 to get all the inside goss on the popular TV 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.760 shows you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.480 our TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.000 and yet very little is known about how our favorite 0:00:20.000 --> 0:00:23.000 shows get made. So each episode I've been finding guests 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.000 they want to dive just that little bit deeper into 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.320 the shows they're currently making, so that you can hear 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.520 all their exclusive stories and gain access to the biggest 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.280 names in Australian television. I want to thank you for 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.559 downloading or subscribing to this podcast however you've found it. 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.040 I love hearing your feedback, so make sure you leave 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.000 a review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.440 This chat I am joined by Sam from The Summit, 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:47.880 whoever the last few weeks has been seen on Channel 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.760 nine's ambitious new reality series. The Summit is the latest 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:55.480 reality series from Endemol Shine Australia. The premise is a 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:58.040 group of contestants racing to the top of a mountain, 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.120 undertaking various tasks along the way and avoiding being eliminated 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.600 by a mountain keeper who is making their life a 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:07.600 living hell. Each contestant has a backpack with a portion 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.480 of the grand prize of a million dollars, which will 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.520 be split by whoever makes it to the top of 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.720 the summit. A little bit more about Sam, I guess today. 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.760 Sam is a strength and conditioning coach from Sydney and 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.319 he was not one to shy away from the challenge 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:24.800 of the summit. We saw him exit the competition on Tuesday, 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:26.800 and while he had the fitness to make it to 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:29.280 the top, it's fair to say his social game was 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.600 what let him down. I will ask Sam about his 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.040 biggest mistakes and if he's friendship with fellow contestant Jan 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.559 survived him stealing ten thousand dollars of the prize money. 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.920 Sam will reveal the accuracy of the final edit and 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:44.160 how much of the show is actually set up to 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.400 create heightened drama. We will even find out how he 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.880 was chosen for the summit and the real reason why 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.680 he has said no to countless other offers to appear 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.600 on dating shows. Plus, we will also get plenty of 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:58.520 exclusives from behind the scenes of the Summit, which is 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.680 currently on Channel nine and ye can catch up on 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.400 nine now if you've fallen a little bit behind. Anyway, 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.760 let's bring Sam into the podcast and guys, this is 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.640 a really fun chance. Sam was a lot of fun 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.639 to talk to, So I hope you enjoy this episode. 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:12.120 Hey Sam, how are you? 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:12.560 Buddy? 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.200 Awesome? Ben love it and me, how are you doing well. 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.120 I'm a big fan of the Summit, so this is 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:19.600 actually kind of exciting to have you to talk about 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:20.320 a series. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.800 Nice. I have enjoyed every single minute of it. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.640 I felt like when it started they were long episodes 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:28.160 and I was like, God, these are long. And then 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.040 now we're at this point of this series where I'm 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.560 like they could be twice as long. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.040 One hundred percent. At first, like a drag's on, but 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.079 I guess we've got to do a lot of character development, 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.480 We've got to meet a lot of people set the scene, 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.519 and yeah, even with that last episode, oh my goodness, 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:43.480 just give us more. 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:45.760 Well, I think there's a lot of people in Australia 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.959 that would definitely be interested in seeing more of you. 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:50.800 But I want to start by saying congratulations on a 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.680 memorable effort on the summit. How are you feeling about 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:54.919 the whole thing at the moment. 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:58.320 I'm relieved that it's over. It was a lot of anticipation, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:02.320 a lot of suspense. I am really happy with how 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:05.160 I've been portrayed. I can quite truly say when it 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.680 comes to setting a goal and a termination, I feel 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.200 like that is exactly how I came across. I had 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:15.320 such an amazing time. Like there were freezing moments, there 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:20.120 were difficult moments. Dealing with the social structures was such 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:24.480 a challenge that I wasn't ready for. But man like, 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.880 like you saw in every single episode, it was breathtaking 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.320 to be able to stop with everyone and just soak 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.160 in how freaking beautiful New Zealand is. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.640 Oh, I can't. I'm watching it on a big screen 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.400 at home in my place. I have a home theater, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.720 so amazing, Like you're just it's a feast for the eyes, 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.640 which is great. I'm just talking to you now. You've 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.800 very well spoken, h You're very articulate, You're very handsome. 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.840 I want to know how did you get picked to 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.400 be on a show like this? Did you apply? How 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:52.920 did this happen? 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:53.160 For you. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.400 So over the past couple of years, I guess I've 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:00.400 had a fair few casting producers reach out for certain 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:03.680 shows Lo and Behold. They were always dating shows, and 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:09.160 I was like, there is absolutely no chance, Like personally, 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.800 that is not how you meet someone like and for 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.320 some people, I just don't underst really understand how it's necessary. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.120 But whatever floats your boat, totally fine. 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.320 Let's check these off the checklists really quickly, just because 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.040 we can't live this opportunity. So when I saw you 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.719 with the long, curly, blonde, golden hair before you had 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.520 a cut, which is a great charity that you made 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.440 money for, absolutely gorgeous, So I can imagine that we 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.279 can check the Bachelor off. I'm sure you would have 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.239 been offered that one. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:37.800 Not yet, but I still don't know if I'd be 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:39.080 able to bring myself to do it. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.520 What about Marritith first side, if I asked you to 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:42.440 do that one. 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.039 There is no chance in hell I will ever do that. 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:47.920 But that's not an answer to the question. 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:51.760 We're like asking have you been asked to do those shows? 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.039 They're more elusive than that. I think I got asked 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.279 to do like Sex on the Beach, which or maybe 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.800 it's on the beach. I don't know. It's one of 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.160 the two, one of the ones I've already done. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.280 Okay, great, so you've been had on by casting producers 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.360 all over the country to do dating shows, But then 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.080 why did you choose a summer look. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.240 They came up to me after the head shave. They 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.400 were like, you're really enthusiastic and engaging. We think you'd 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.880 be perfect to this new adventure TV show. And at 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:20.320 first I pushed back a little bit and now like, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:24.160 you're us out. It's like Sas Meat Survivor, And that 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.400 had my ears pricked up because I've seen bits of 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.520 the SAS and I've always been like, you know what 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.920 that has you written all over it. I jumped at 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.240 the opportunity, and next thing, you know, like two weeks 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:39.119 after a big holiday at burning Man, I got flown 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:43.040 over to New Zealand and dropped into the complete opposite climate. 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:45.120 Okay, that is a big difference. I don't necessarily know 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.440 if mentally going to burning Man was a good idea 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.120 to do this show straight afterwards, But I digress. We 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.479 need to talk about what the audience reaction has been 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.080 like for you, because you have very iconic look. So 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.600 I can imagine walking the streets of Australia at the 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.159 moment You're getting a lot of people coming up to 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:00.960 you and talking to you. 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:02.120 What are they saying? 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.799 Well, most of the people. I just did the Sydney 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.440 half marathon, actually the Runaway Sydney Half Marathon, and I 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:11.880 think I had probably about twenty people yell at me 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:14.520 saying the mountain man, or get back on the summit, 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.159 or what are you doing here? People are really nice, 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.480 which is really good to see. No one has said 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:22.120 anything negative and I'm not one to go and read 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.640 the comments. I'm never going to go do that. People 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:26.800 can shoot me a message, but so far most people 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.680 have been really lovely, really happy to see me, and yeah, 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.760 I'm really happy with the response so far. 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.560 Well, are you worried about getting the villain editor is 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:38.080 what they call it in television land? How were you 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.440 feeling doing the show with Was there sometimes where you're thinking, well, 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:42.840 I could say that, but then I don't want to 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.200 be looked to be too mean, Like what was the 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.080 process and how did you feel about maybe dodging that 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:48.680 villain edit? 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:53.560 Mmm, it came really natural. I don't really have a 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.840 mean bone in my body. The entire show, I was 0:06:57.400 --> 0:07:01.680 playing with the assumption that we need to speed ever 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.320 on up. So every single time that I was choosing 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.400 someone that was slowing us down to make us move quicker, 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:12.440 it was never a tactical move. It was more for me, 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.960 quite a logical move, and I feel like that showed 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.440 actually pretty well. I don't feel like I was mean 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.440 at any point. I feel like decisions had to be made, 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:24.680 and when you're going through like rugged alpine terrain and 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.720 doing some of the things we had to do, it 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.200 was really necessary just to keep the momentum of the 0:07:30.360 --> 0:07:31.160 entire group going. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.440 Would you say that this show, now that you've done it, 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.080 it relies on brains or braun, because like when it 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.040 starts out, you're like, well, Sam can get to the 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.840 top of the mountain because you have the braun. But 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:43.960 I'm not saying you don't have the brains. While I 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.440 dig myself a very big hole, I think at this 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.680 side of the experience, are we talking about how you 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.520 negotiate your social game or whether or not it is 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:53.400 the physical game. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.600 Like looking back, look, there were some people that were 0:07:56.720 --> 0:08:00.480 extremely prepared for the social game and were playing from 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:04.000 day one, and we see them go a long way 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.680 in the show, and it definitely acts in their favor. 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.480 I don't think anyone was prepared for how much social 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.560 game was going to go into this. People know that, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.760 like it takes three months to make Survivor, and we've 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.240 got two two and a half weeks to create this show, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.320 So I think there was a little bit of urgency, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.720 but we see so much more gameplay come out, and 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.560 it does end up being about your friends that you make, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:28.280 and your loyalties and how honest you are. People can 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:31.280 see through you, especially when you're spending all your time 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:34.160 every single day with each other. If you're not being 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.520 honest and being truthful and being yourself, people can see it, 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.160 and that's when you can make the worst enemies. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.840 I think that that was probably a bit of the downfall. 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:45.240 Did you watch any Survivor or any other reality shows? 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:48.240 Because your romance that you got with Jans, For me, 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.480 as soon as I saw that developing, I was. 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:53.760 Like, oh no, I was like, this is not good. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.640 Like you know, as soon as the two strongest people 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.640 got together and very handsome looking blokes, of course, that 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.400 is a huge target on both of your heads. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:06.559 So looking back. I definitely shouldn't have had such a 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.800 strong alliance with Chance. It definitely painted a massive target 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:11.440 on our back, and that was clear from day one, 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.840 and that's why I literally got put up for eviction 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.080 every single time that it came around. I think I 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:21.720 got very lucky at a lot of moments to keep 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:25.199 myself there. I would play completely different had I got 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:26.960 the chance, or have I get the chance to do 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.120 it again, fingers crossed that that does get to be 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.040 another opportunity, because it was so much fun. It was 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.600 so much more fun than I was actually expecting, and 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:38.280 people are tactical. I have never watched a season of 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.800 reality TV. I've seen episodes here and there, but nothing 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.559 that has drawn me in so much. It has been 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.680 really enjoyable to watch this, and I'm actually looking forward 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.920 to seeing a lot more reality TV, hopefully on the 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.960 adventure side through to the end, because it would take 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.320 a lot more preparation if I were to do it again. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.640 Well, I mean, the series is such an ambitious idea. 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.240 I mean, do you think that the ruthlessness of some 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.959 of these challenges were a bit harsh for audiences to 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:04.800 get their heads around. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.520 I don't think the challenges were ruthless enough. I'm honest, 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.720 I wasn't actually challenged at any point. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.520 I'm still recovering from the bridge shop in the first 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.440 episode is so brutal, and I'm not afraid to say this. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.120 I had tears in my eyes when the bridge was 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:24.920 It brought back all those memories of not being picked. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:26.320 You know, it's sport at school. 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:31.040 It seems so cruel. I mean seeing Steven's face drop 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.360 and we were all in drop. We did not. I 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.719 wasn't even watching as as I pulled that axe out 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.560 of the bag. I was labbergasid. I did not know 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.600 what was going on until I literally saw the bridge falling. 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:47.760 It broke our hearts. It was gut wrenching to see. Luckily, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:49.280 he came away unscathed. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.880 You've cut up with him for a beer, and he's 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.679 not at the bottom of the mountain. For people who 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:54.640 are watching Channel. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.680 Nine, he's still okay in the red, still in that creek. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.200 I want to ask you about the recovery process for 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.720 this show, because I can imagine you would have trained 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.960 usually because you're already a fit guy, but you know, 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.240 mentally and physically coming out of this experience, how did 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:09.760 you cope. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.439 The scariest thing we did and the thing that probably 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.360 stuck with me the most of the helicopter chase. That 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.840 is one of the scariest things I've ever done, and 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.880 it's because that helicopter driver was an absolute cowboy. There 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.800 was one point where I had to jump out of 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.360 the way of the rear rotorblades because he was about 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.160 a meter and a half above us. As we're running 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.880 underneath the helicopter, he decides to turn chase someone else. 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.000 I see those rotablades coming around, and I jump out 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.280 of the way onto the ground and I honestly reckon 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.560 I game like two or three meters close to those 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.760 rear roaders and it is loud and there is so 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:43.960 much wind. Terrified. 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:45.880 I want to know more about this helicopter because we 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.280 can't see in so they've obviously tinted windows. But the 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.079 Mercedes Benz of helicopters. But are you calling it to 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:57.040 the mountain keeper as the mountain keeper the helicopter itself. 0:11:57.120 --> 0:11:59.800 I mean, I find it noticeable that they've even given 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.160 them and keeper agenda, like she's the mountain keeper. 0:12:03.600 --> 0:12:06.400 Yeah, she is the mountain keeper. Maybe it's a They 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.280 then because the gender kind of changes as we go along. 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.839 Like Jai calls the mountain keeper one thing, then calls 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.280 them another. Who knows we never see the driver. They're 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.800 just always watching and they well, I mean, guys, you 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:24.199 know what's probably been the creepy one, just filling that 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.040 person in through the entire thing, the absolute prick. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:28.920 What's your relationship with him? 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:29.080 Like? 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.480 Because thing like that all the time? 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.280 Like, I mean, I don't clearly, as you can tell 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.800 from be on the on the line with me right now, 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.520 I do not have a masculine voice. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:39.040 But he is. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.800 Kind of this caricature. Are there moments where he breaks. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.640 He We got to make him laugh a fair few times, 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:47.839 and the longer the show one he would break character 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:49.440 a little bit and then he would have to go 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.920 back and be like, guys, stop making this laugh. By 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.720 the end couldn't keep it together. It was quite funny 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:57.960 seeing him break character a couple of times. We will 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:00.400 never get to see that on TV. But I'm I'm 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:05.360 completely Certainty is actually such a lovely, kind person. But man, 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.040 he is smoldering and deceptive. On the show. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:09.840 We'll talking about what we don't see. 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.800 You know, there must be so much footage that Endemol 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.120 Shine Australia are collecting along the way. Is it harder 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.760 for you guys to be ignoring the cameras and being 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.160 authentic with your climb? I mean, do you get told 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.400 off if you look at the cameras? Do do they 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:24.560 take a couple of dollars out. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:25.280 Of the prize money? 0:13:25.360 --> 0:13:25.679 Like? What? 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:27.920 How is that dynamic going? 0:13:28.080 --> 0:13:32.600 It's actually really impressive. The production company is so professional 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.480 with it, like they put up these walls straight from 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.040 the get go to not be engaged with the cameramen 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.600 or the producers throughout. They're having very little in terms 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.880 of sway with what you say. They encourage you to 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.319 vocalize how you're feeling and what of, so you get 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.440 quite used to vocalizing yourself, expressing yourself a little bit 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:55.920 more and I see, I guess that's when in reality 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:59.640 TV you see people's personalities magnified more because you have 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.400 to talk about how you're feeling the entire time. There 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.959 was no scripting, which was actually really awesome. I can 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.720 safely say the show is ninety nine percent accurate to 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.319 how it actually was. Annoyingly, they cut out my letter 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.840 that I got from family and I had big tears, 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.320 like my brother had just given birth to a newborn 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.480 baby girl while I was on the show and named 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:25.760 it Esne, and it was a really beautiful moment. And unfortunately, 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.720 being the tough guy on the show, they cut it 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.840 because they just couldn't have me probably in tears. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:32.920 And I think when they know that, you know they're 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.240 editing backwards, they know that you're going to go. You know, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:37.800 they can't have us be obsessed with you and then 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:39.240 have you chopped from the show. It's hard for the 0:14:39.320 --> 0:14:41.600 viewers to kind of get their heads away. Your exit 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.160 from the show was a shock to me. Who do 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.480 you hold the most responsible for being eliminated? 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.960 Oh, you know what, I'm gonna hold Alex responsible for that. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:57.800 He put my hand up multiple times for eviction and 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.480 seeing him jump into the water when we were already 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:02.840 in the water in the previous episode. You actually hear 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.040 me swearing the entire time because I see him jump 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.960 into the water to get the bag and I'm like, 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.280 we are already doing all of this hard work. And 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.280 as much as he says he's a team player, he 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.560 absolutely shafts us on our side, and he already had 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.760 his mind made up Sam was going home, and that 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.600 was just very clear. Put anyone else in that position, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.600 they're probably going to go swimming for the bag anyway, 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:28.080 everyone wants that option. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.800 Well, I think Alex is quite popular. I mean, I'm 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.440 watching this show and interacting with the fan base, and 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.480 he's sounding very popular. But you know, the reason why 0:15:36.520 --> 0:15:38.840 I think he's popular is because if he's saying less, 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.040 you get into less trouble. And he's really not humming 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.520 across in the edit, like we're hearing too much of him. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.280 So you know, I think that's one thing. If you 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:49.040 keep talking, which is my problem, you can hang yourself. 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:54.400 Yeah, personally, Alex is an absolute angel, and you see that, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.080 like he is a stand up citizen and he is 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.600 a very kind, very fair person as well. So only 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.480 when it comes to the TV show do I have 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.320 beef with him, No other time. He's a wonderful human. 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.400 Well, the bag of money left out for you to 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.840 go through seemed like a massive oversight from everybody. Things 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:14.240 like that created for TV drama because it seems like 0:16:14.360 --> 0:16:16.600 maybe it's they're told to leave the money outside of 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.840 the tent, or do you think it was a genuine 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.840 mistake on their behalf to be leaving that kind of 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:22.680 money lying around. 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:26.480 Man, I'm not too sure because so what happened when 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.240 I was leaving. There was definitely one cameraman and director 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:34.200 that was a chip above the rest. This guy has 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.440 a lot of experience in a lot of years, and 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:39.920 when we were filming that scene and when the bag 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.200 was being dropped, he was with me and he said 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:44.200 to me, we are going to have a lot of 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.200 fun with this, and we played around with how we're 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.120 going to do it. It was my idea to leave 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.320 the note with them and to cut the bag open 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:53.760 with a stone. It was so juicy and so much fun. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.640 But we were actually ready to go into the tent 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.160 and recover the bag. Now, when we went through at 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:04.000 midnight to the campsite, we found the bag outside and 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.159 we were like, why is it outside? That's going on? 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.400 We didn't know what was happening either, but it made 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.760 a job very easy. I'm gonna blame the margaritas. They 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.920 We got given margaritas at that checkpoint, and I had 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.960 tour of those in about five minutes, and I was 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.080 getting tipsy, and I know that they would have had 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.960 a lot more drinks after I left around in that campfire. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.000 We had wine, we had beer, we had margaritas, and 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:30.840 when the group becomes less and less, they're still supplying 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.280 the same amount of stuff. So I reckon that people 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:35.440 might have had a few too many drinks. That bag 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:38.480 was a little bit of an oversight because people are 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.040 in the heat of the moment, there's a bit of 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.240 drama going on, and then someone would have left it outside. 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:45.080 The others were furious that you stole the money. Everyone 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.720 being cross about that to me was infuriating. I'm like, 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:49.800 I'm sorry, every single one of you would have taken 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:51.840 that money. Why are you trying to take the moral 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:52.600 high ground at. 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.960 This Every single person would have taken that money. We've 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.840 got a crewture going ever since the show, and every 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:03.399 was like, Sam, why didn't you take more? Unfortunately, the 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:07.520 Mountain people only let me take ten thousand. I was wondering. 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.000 I was like, Man, ten thousand in the pool of 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.720 two hundred and fifty K in that bag is not much. 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:14.960 I wish I could have taken twenty or thirty, because 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.879 that definitely would have rustled more feathers and made people madder. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:20.879 But I can easily say that every single person that 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:27.840 was left was shocked by the situation but probably loved it, 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.680