WEBVTT - Brihony Dawson: The Challenge Australia - HOST 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:01.720 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.600 TV Reload the podcast. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:04.000 Last week Airline. 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.800 Welcome back guys to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris, 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:10.400 and on this podcast I go behind the scenes with 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.640 the biggest players in television. Each episode you will get 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:18.119 a front row seat with content makers like executive producers, writers, 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:21.079 editors and casting agents, plus the talent that we see 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:24.200 on our screens. TV Reload reloads the shows that you're 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:27.120 currently watching and gives you a better insight into our 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:31.320 television industry and our streaming services. Today. On the podcast, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.919 I have the first non binary presenter to front a 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.760 major TV show in Australia. They are Briany Dawson, who 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.400 is the host of Channel ten's latest reality series, The Challenge. 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.199 Briani hasn't exactly been plucked out of obscurity, as they 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.640 have been working in media and sport and presenting for 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.440 a while now, but something tells me we are on 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:52.839 the verge of seeing this person in mainstream media a 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:55.600 lot more, and along with Australia, I think we're all 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.440 here for it. The Challenge Australia is an upcoming Australian 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:03.080 spinoff of the American reality competition series also called The Challenge, 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:07.480 featuring twenty two Australian reality sports stars and celebrities. The 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.360 series is set to premiere on Network ten on Monday, 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.000 the fourteenth of November, and I cannot wait. We will 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.160 talk about Briani's journey to hosting this series, what they 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.880 knew of the contestants prior to the show, if they 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:22.800 get involved in the drama, and what they thought of 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:26.240 some of the most problematic players. However, let's get started 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.839 with today's guest. I'd like to welcome the latest sensation 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:33.560 in TV, presenting Briani Dawson to TV Reload. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.160 I won't be outworked. I won't not get this because 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:43.760 I haven't worked hard enough, strength, teamwork, resilience and alliances. 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:47.040 The Challenge puts it all to the test. When I 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.320 watched the first episode, when I got sent like, I 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.480 literally just first into tears, going and there with everything. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.720 I'm giving everything I've got. I had to remain Switzerland 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:58.240 on all of it. Peter play the game from Peter Win. 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:03.920 I know a few have been leaked and I definitely 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.160 thought about where those things might have come from. This 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:09.320 makes survive I seem like a walk in the park, 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:12.400 visibility goes a long way, and I think that that 0:02:12.560 --> 0:02:15.359 is one of the most important things in getting people 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.000 to understand diversity. 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.680 Hi, Briany, how are you hello. 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:21.920 I'm excellent. Thank you, darling. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.800 How are you? I'm doing really well. Do you know. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.040 It's the worst thing for me. It gives me so 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.160 much anxiety every time, and it's why I say it's 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.359 so weird. I hate saying hello to people because I 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.960 never know how to start a podcast. I wish that 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.040 we were just in the middle of a conversation. 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:38.560 Maybe you could just start it with a laugh. 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:43.040 You know, this is a really big break into mainstream television, 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.200 and I don't want to jump the gun. But are 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.040 you scared to become a household name after being on 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:49.560 a show this big? 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:53.440 No, I'm not scared. I'm prepared and ready. I've been 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:55.799 prepared and ready since I came out of the womb, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:02.160 and so this is me step into what I have 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:04.240 been planning my whole life. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.040 I have just gone down the rabbit hole on YouTube 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.120 and watched every show real You've ever done. I watched 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.560 every single clip that. This is how excited I am 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.320 to talk to you today. I've watched every single clip 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.480 I think that you've ever been on. I've finished the Internet. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.520 When it comes to Brandy Dawson, that does a. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.280 Lot for my ego. But I'm not gonna lie that 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:25.160 does a lot for my ego. Any favorite moments you'd 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.400 like to highlight while were you? 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.760 It's more the reactions. It's like, you know, as someone 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:33.800 who works in presenting in the capacity that I'm in, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.320 which is not as big as you are, the jealousy 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:40.200 of how talented you are gags me. So when I 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.200 saw like you presenting, I'm like, wow, look at that energy. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.200 I watched you interviewing, maintaining eye contact and genuine interest 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.320 in these people, and then you could sing, you could 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:50.840 MC And by the time I got to the end 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.560 of it, I was like, well, why hasn't this happened sooner? 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:55.840 For you? To be honest, it's just. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:59.680 About the about the stars aligning. It's been a really 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:04.360 credible journey, and I think one of my most favorite 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.560 things about it has been people that I work with you. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.080 When I got into the entertainment industry, I did want 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.560 to be really successful and achieve some certain things, some 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.840 highly creative, and I've got big ideas and so there 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:19.960 were certain things that I wanted to achieve. And I've 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.280 said to myself in the beginning, I won't be outworked. 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:26.160 I won't not get this because I haven't worked hard enough. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.040 So that was my goal. That's what I set out 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.960 to do, and to take on criticism and get better 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:37.880 and better and better. And now I'm really enjoying that, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.360 and the people around me have just gone well. Of course, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.919 when I first get into the entertainment industry, I was 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.920 like I had no money. I was like living in paran, 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.920 like off my girlfriend's credit card, like neither of us 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:54.080 had any money, right, And I was like, how can 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:59.719 I use my personality to make money? And the first 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:01.920 thing that came to my mind was to become an escort. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.360 I was like, I could be at a table. 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:10.640 I'm like making personality only fans ahead of your Yeah. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.920 Yeah, no escorting anymore. 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:15.880 It is a dream job for you, and I mean, 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.520 I couldn't be happier for you. I think this is 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:21.040 just so fantastic. But which presenters have you looked up 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:24.080 to over the years. Because we all have someone in 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.200 our back pocket that we like borrow bits and pieces from, 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:28.960 are you able to share that with me. Are there 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.240 any people that you've watched on Telly growing up that 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.560 you've sort of borrowed some things from. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.640 Yeah, I think there are two. For me. In terms 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.839 of Australia, it's Bert Newton. I think he was a 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:44.520 classic example of it's your personality and go and be 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.880 one hundred percent you, and that's sort of what I 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:50.599 was told to do with this show. We booked you, 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:52.800 so we need you to go out and be you. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.880 And then the other one in terms of like interview 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.520 style where I would really love to get to. It's 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:03.719 like a gram Norton, Yeah, could hease my idol interview 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.520 style where he doesn't ever really like ask a question. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.760 He almost like accuses someone of something, and then the 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.440 story that they tell is like them defending themselves because 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:16.320 he would be like, so you you don't actually brush 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:17.039 your teeth, do you? 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:17.440 Bench? 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:21.599 And then so, yeah, that's that's the interview style that 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:23.960 I would like to get to, and that's something that 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.480 I'll always work on. 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:27.359 Well, I've watched the first few episodes and I have 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.640 to say you asked and nailing the brief because you 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:35.080 are very present with your interactions with the contestants. The 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:37.920 Aussie players, however, we want to refer to them, and 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.880 you can see that is kind of the magic of 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:41.359 the show. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.799 Even at the airport when we were all flying out together, 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.000 I was just like getting around and like talking to people, 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.719 and they're just I just thought they were all really 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:54.080 really great people. They were all really really nice and 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.600 supportive of me, and especially with pronoun news and all 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.360 that kind of stuff. They all got told before left, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.039 and they all were really conscious of it and did 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.120 their absolute best to get it right. Well. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.280 The headlines read first non binary presenter to front a 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:14.520 major TV show in Australia. How does that reality feel? 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:17.920 I feel over the moon about it. I think as 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:21.400 someone in the public, I think it's really important to 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:26.520 represent your people. I'm happy to be a spokesperson for that. Like, 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.640 obviously you've got to have boundaries and that kind of 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.040 stuff along the way, but I think you do have 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:35.160 a responsibility. I feel like I'm educated enough in it, 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.400 and I feel like I have enough lived experience, and 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.880 I want to I just want to make it easier 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:45.880 for other people, not just queer people, but also cisgendered 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:50.360 non queer people who just have no idea. They're so 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.600 scared to get it wrong. They don't even know how 0:07:52.600 --> 0:07:55.120 to ask the question. It's like, okay, well, let's just 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:59.600 start a dialogue in this massive space and then you 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.640 can take in from it what you want and you 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:05.240 don't actually have to like be directly involved in the conversation. 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.760 You can just listen. And I think that that goes 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:11.480 a long way. Visibility goes a long way, and I 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.760 think that that is one of the most important things 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:18.360 in getting people to understand diversity and gender and everything 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:19.200 that goes along with it. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.600 I think as well, you know, fear can be really difficult. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.720 When someone's fearful of getting something wrong or they're fearful 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.360 of something, we're not at our best. And so with you, 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.440 you're very disarming. And I watched a few interviews with you. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.120 As I said, I'm obsessed with you. So I've been 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.720 watching them on YouTube and a few people got your 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.600 they got your pronouns wrong, and you didn't get upset 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.200 about it. You know, you laughed it off and you 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.559 put them at ease. Like at one point you said, oh, look, 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.280 I still get my pronouns wrong, and that person looks 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.840 genuinely terrified when they got the pronoun wrong, and I 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.520 was like, disarming the fear is a huge part of 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.520 the conversation. And I think if if anyone's going to 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:00.760 forefront a community, then I think you are perfect for it. 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.040 Thank you. That means a lot to me, It really does, 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.200 because you know, you know how the queer community can 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.840 get as well. Then it's like, you know, so I 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.959 do I want to do a really really good job. 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.760 I want to I want to make sure that it's 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.959 easier for non binary people, trans people feel more comfortable 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.000 in themselves, or make it easier for them to have 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.800 a conversation because it's not the first time they're bringing 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.920 up a pronoun to someone at work or their parents 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:29.480 or their family and that kind of thing. And I 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.240 think it's the more that we can have these conversations, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:36.520 the better. And we're moving slowly, but I can't believe 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.200 it's twenty twenty two and I'm the first non binary 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.839 host on a major TV show, you know, so we've 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.520 got a long way to go. But I've said this 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.439 all along. It's like, kudos to Channel ten for taking 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.680 a risk on me because I am a'm new talent 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.800 and non binary, and I think we're going to nail 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:56.280 it well. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:57.959 I mean, this is the best question to ask you 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.440 at this point. I mean, how did this show come about? 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.360 How did this job come about for you to host 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:05.120 the challenge? I wouldn't say you're an unknown because you know, 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.360 you have been in the industry for quite some time, 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.640 you know, with so much work that you've been able 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.440 to achieve in such a small space of time. But 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:16.800 then to get picked to this level, like how did 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:17.640 your name come up? 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.360 It was a right place at the right time, That's 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:25.959 literally all it was. I was m seeing an event 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:30.600 at the Melbourne Cricket Ground for a lady lunch and 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.280 I was hosting with doing this songwriting thing and it 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.920 was just a gig and I was on and you know, 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.520 and one of the producers of the all the shows 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.040 here Channel ten, she was just in the audience and 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:44.960 you know, she didn't even come up to me. She 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.960 did not even come up to me and talk to 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.920 me that day, so, you know, no idea who she was. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.760 And then I got a call from Stephen Tate, the 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.320 producer of the show, maybe two weeks later, and he 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:01.760 was like, hey, Brannie's Stephen you know Network ten, We're 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.840 looking at you for this role. Presenting to MTV America tomorrow. 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.760 I want to make sure you're interested. Have you heard 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:10.280 of the challenge? Are you available these dates? Blah blah blah, 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.800 And I was like, yes, yes, yes, do you need 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.680 like can I send you like a show reel? Can 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.800 I we like, what do you need, Steven, because like, 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.440 we've got it all, We've got it all. And then 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:27.680 got a message from him maybe a week later, MTV 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.880 love you. We're just waiting for you know, final confirmations. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.640 And then this one day I'll get up stage at 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:35.520 the Forum. I'm doing a corporate gig at the Forum. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.080 So I've just played this incredible venue. Pick up my 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.439 phone Stephen Tate and he was like, pack your bags, 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:41.760 we're going out Argentina. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.400 And I was like what success. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.040 Yeah, And so I didn't even I didn't find out 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:51.600 any of this until Stephen and Tony another guy, Dan 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.200 took me out for lunch and I was like, how 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.400 how did you find me? I have no idea how 0:11:58.440 --> 0:11:59.839 you about. Tony was like, I was just at that 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.520 lunch and I just thought you were the had the 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.480 best personality and we're one of the best mcs. I'd 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.880 ever said, And she goes I reckon, that's our new host. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.440 So yeah, it was. It was pretty funny and just 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.600 a classic right place, right time. 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.520 Had you heard of the show? Like, did you know 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:16.240 of the show Man? 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.720 This is yes, I knew. I knew of the show, 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:21.000 but I had had you know, I knew who TJ 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.400 was and everything like that, but I never like sat 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.240 down and watched it. So obviously went binged and I 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.240 just loved it. I really really loved it. And I 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:33.679 just that's when it really hit me and I was like, 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.440 oh my god, that's going to be me. I'm going 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.360 to be there. I'm going to be in Argentina doing that. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.360 And the first time when I watched the first episode, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.520 when I got sent the first draft of one, like 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.439 I literally just burst into tears. I was like, this 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.319 is It's actually real and the show is really good 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.480 and I was like, thank God, the show is really good. 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.720 That's the stress as well. I've landed job. A friend 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:03.120 of mine's an actress, Australian actress, and she's worked on 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.319 lots of shows and she's like, you can't celebrate anything 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.880 in this industry until it goes to it. Yeah, because 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.760 you can film stuff and it can you know, go 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.760 to shit. So at this stage where we are, just 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.880 right before the launch of this first episode, anyone listening 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:18.960 to this, they have to tune in and watch it. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:20.920 It's one of those shows you have to see it 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.760 to believe it, you know. Yeah, and I hope people do. 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.440 I do feel like it's a bit of a mishmash 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.640 of reality TV shows, well TV stars and sports stars, 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.400 and it's a sort of a mishmash of reality shows 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.080 in general. It feels like Big Brother. It feels like 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.360 it's the Knockout. I don't know, if you're two young 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:42.240 fe oh my god, it's a knockout, yes, and a 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.319 little bit of X on the Beach as well. Now 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:45.560 you describe the show. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:50.679 I describe it as Survivor meets Ninja Warrior meets Big Brother. 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:53.600 So we can agree on the Big Brother thing, and yeah, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.720 the Survivor thing to me is because of like the 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.959 challenges and then the Ninja Warrior stuff. Because the challenges 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.600 is it like big they're really and they're only going 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.600 to get bigger as the seasons. As the seasons go on. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.480 So there were times where like I had to have 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.640 it like a stunt guy and had to like jump 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.880 off these things, and so there are some really cool 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.000 moments that I got to experience there. And the best 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:23.440 thing about the challenges though, is they're like the ultimate equalizers. 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.120 You can be the strongest, toughest, tallest person there and 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.840 you might not know how to do a particular puzzle, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.760 or you can't concentrate when certain things are happening, and 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.720 it's just like, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who you are, 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.160 the challenges will absolutely get you. 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:44.440 There is some unfinished business between some of these contestants though, 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.600 which makes for some shaken bake drama. One of the 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.240 Batchy boys has dated like three or four of the women. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.160 You know, talk about throwing the cat amongst the pigeons. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.000 Yeah, even I'm dating him now, So that's you know. 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.600 I'm dating him next. It's great. We've all yeah your 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:04.640 turns soon, you know, I mean episode one, we already 0:15:04.640 --> 0:15:08.120 have a cheating scandal. Do you do you yourself want 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.440 to get involved? I wondered if you are like a 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:12.840 parent that they come to one. 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.920 I wanted to be involved. I couldn't. I had to. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.720 I had to let things out at them. There are 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:24.560 some certain things that happened and we were talking about it, 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:27.720 like not at the house or anything. And I was like, 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:30.320 are you sending me in? Am I going in? Come on, 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:32.600 put me in the house, let me go, and like 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.160 ruffle some feathers or let me go. You know, but 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.440 I just had to I had to remain Switzerland on 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:40.440 all of it, because you know, I had to need 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.280 to be the very And there are a couple of 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:44.560 things said at some of the eliminations and I went 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.800 to be like you like to defend people. I was like, okay, 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:48.840 and let them. 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.200 Knowing you as well as I do, which is just 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.440 from this podcast and watching seventy days of footage of 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.240 your entire back catalogue, I just, you know, I imagine 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.720 you to have some favorites. Have you got favor You 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:03.120 said that you didn't know a lot of them from 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:05.520 their previous work and other shows, so that's kind of 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:07.560 giving them that new slate, which is great. But you 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.760 met them at the airport, You've had small introductions. I'm 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.240 sure they've showed you like a sizzle reel of basically 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.520 the back catalog. Do you have any favorites. 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:16.800 I did have some favorites. Once we sort of win 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:22.040 what we sort of win in Love Cyrel. She was 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:28.360 just so raw and honest and just says the best 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.000 thing that comes to her mind. And I really I 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:34.800 really enjoyed that about her. And I know she goes 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.360 and you knows A has a thing every now and again, 0:16:39.040 --> 0:16:41.160 the cyclone for. 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:43.200 People playing at home because this is a podcast, they 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.760 can't see us. I was pretending to be a cyclone. Yeah, 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.720 just so yeah, but she always. 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:53.080 Comes back, you know, Like I'm not saying it's great behavior, 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:57.640 but she comes back and she's pretty. She's like working 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.880 on that part of herself. And I think that you know, 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:02.240 people near kudos for that. 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.960 So I also just to jump in there. I also 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.240 think that some of the best TV villains when it 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.159 comes to reality TV, are actually really lovely when you 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.680 meet them in person, like it's so bizarre. I'll be 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.000 terrified of them. I'll be at you know, a red 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.360 carpet event or you know, something that a whole bunch 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:22.240 of influenzer losers go along to, and I'll see them. 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:24.400 I'll be like, oh my god, that person is frightening. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:28.040 It's terrifying. I'll use Geniliano for an example, because she 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.520 she won't mind. She is so lovely and easy to 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:34.240 deal with on the day to day, so like, it's 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.360 an interesting thing for so rell to be a cyclone 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.639 on TV and then for her to be so lovely 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:40.560 to deal with in between. You know, she just. 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.119 Gets you can see, she just gets triggered by stuff, 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.400 and like we all have triggers and we all deal 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.960 with them in different ways. Hers to deal with it 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.600 right then and there, you know, go for it. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.080 I'm here for That's what I'm here for. For it. 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.800 I also loved Kiki as well. She was just a hoot. 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.040 Every challenge was like if I got my lashes on 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.600 and my lash is still yep, oh my god, my extensions. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:07.440 I absolutely adored Bachelor in Paradise. I think I remember 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.919 watching her on that and just being like, Wow, you know, 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:11.879 this is the kind of person you want to invite 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.840 to a house party just her and no one else, 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:15.879 and it'd feel like ninety people were there, a. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:23.520 Hundred. I absolutely adored her. We would we would like 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:27.040 when we're coming back from shoots. We would often because 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.840 I was able to have my own hair and makeup 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.760 guy there, when we would be on our way back 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:35.520 from shoots, and we'd just be like, he said, oh yeah, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.800 it's just hilarious. It's so dramatic, so dramatic in the 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:41.760 in the challenges and stuff. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.840 We've seen a lot of these guys on like Master Chef, 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.399 Big Brother, Love Ireland, The Bachelor. You know, there's some 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:49.400 of them a sports starf, some of them have problematic 0:18:49.560 --> 0:18:52.080 backstory as we kind of know. But do you think 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:53.760 a lot of people have turned up on this show 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.520 to maybe show us a different site? Are we going 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.159 to get to see redemption or do you think this 0:18:58.240 --> 0:18:59.760 will be a whole lot of history. 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.960 I'd say it's a little of Colin, a little from 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.760 Colin B. But I do I do agree with you. 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.080 I think that a lot of them have come to 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.600 put themselves in a different light. And that's probably one 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.600 of my most favorite things about the show is that 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.800 you do get to see them in a different light 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.440 and a lot of them do go on this journey 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.520 that is unlike you've ever seen them before, and especially 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:29.199 because they do these like massive challenges, right and you know, 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:32.200 there's a certain bond that comes with that kind of 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.640 kind of stuff, like in a team and that kind 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.960 of thing, and then you've got all this adrenaline pumping 0:19:38.000 --> 0:19:40.720 through your body you're on a TV show and it 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.439 just I think it gives you like a vulnerability. And 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.760 then sometimes the person that you don't really get along with, 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:50.240 you two experience this thing together and then you have 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:53.400 this bond and it's like hard to hate them. It's 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:55.960 like we're being on a footy team, right, and you 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.000 might not get along with everyone, but you still need 0:19:58.000 --> 0:19:59.920