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Speaker 1: Welcome back guys to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris,
Speaker 1: and on this podcast I go behind the scenes with
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Speaker 1: on our screens. TV Reload reloads the shows that you're
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Speaker 1: television industry and our streaming services. Today. On the podcast,
Speaker 1: I have the first non binary presenter to front a
Speaker 1: major TV show in Australia. They are Briany Dawson, who
Speaker 1: is the host of Channel ten's latest reality series, The Challenge.
Speaker 1: Briani hasn't exactly been plucked out of obscurity, as they
Speaker 1: have been working in media and sport and presenting for
Speaker 1: a while now, but something tells me we are on
Speaker 1: the verge of seeing this person in mainstream media a
Speaker 1: lot more, and along with Australia, I think we're all
Speaker 1: here for it. The Challenge Australia is an upcoming Australian
Speaker 1: spinoff of the American reality competition series also called The Challenge,
Speaker 1: featuring twenty two Australian reality sports stars and celebrities. The
Speaker 1: series is set to premiere on Network ten on Monday,
Speaker 1: the fourteenth of November, and I cannot wait. We will
Speaker 1: talk about Briani's journey to hosting this series, what they
Speaker 1: knew of the contestants prior to the show, if they
Speaker 1: get involved in the drama, and what they thought of
Speaker 1: some of the most problematic players. However, let's get started
Speaker 1: with today's guest. I'd like to welcome the latest sensation
Speaker 1: in TV, presenting Briani Dawson to TV Reload.
Speaker 3: I won't be outworked. I won't not get this because
Speaker 3: I haven't worked hard enough, strength, teamwork, resilience and alliances.
Speaker 3: The Challenge puts it all to the test. When I
Speaker 3: watched the first episode, when I got sent like, I
Speaker 3: literally just first into tears, going and there with everything.
Speaker 3: I'm giving everything I've got. I had to remain Switzerland
Speaker 3: on all of it. Peter play the game from Peter Win.
Speaker 3: I know a few have been leaked and I definitely
Speaker 3: thought about where those things might have come from. This
Speaker 3: makes survive I seem like a walk in the park,
Speaker 3: visibility goes a long way, and I think that that
Speaker 3: is one of the most important things in getting people
Speaker 3: to understand diversity.
Speaker 1: Hi, Briany, how are you hello.
Speaker 3: I'm excellent. Thank you, darling.
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing really well. Do you know.
Speaker 1: It's the worst thing for me. It gives me so
Speaker 1: much anxiety every time, and it's why I say it's
Speaker 1: so weird. I hate saying hello to people because I
Speaker 1: never know how to start a podcast. I wish that
Speaker 1: we were just in the middle of a conversation.
Speaker 3: Maybe you could just start it with a laugh.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a really big break into mainstream television,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to jump the gun. But are
Speaker 1: you scared to become a household name after being on
Speaker 1: a show this big?
Speaker 3: No, I'm not scared. I'm prepared and ready. I've been
Speaker 3: prepared and ready since I came out of the womb,
Speaker 3: and so this is me step into what I have
Speaker 3: been planning my whole life.
Speaker 1: I have just gone down the rabbit hole on YouTube
Speaker 1: and watched every show real You've ever done. I watched
Speaker 1: every single clip that. This is how excited I am
Speaker 1: to talk to you today. I've watched every single clip
Speaker 1: I think that you've ever been on. I've finished the Internet.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Brandy Dawson, that does a.
Speaker 3: Lot for my ego. But I'm not gonna lie that
Speaker 3: does a lot for my ego. Any favorite moments you'd
Speaker 3: like to highlight while were you?
Speaker 1: It's more the reactions. It's like, you know, as someone
Speaker 1: who works in presenting in the capacity that I'm in,
Speaker 1: which is not as big as you are, the jealousy
Speaker 1: of how talented you are gags me. So when I
Speaker 1: saw like you presenting, I'm like, wow, look at that energy.
Speaker 1: I watched you interviewing, maintaining eye contact and genuine interest
Speaker 1: in these people, and then you could sing, you could
Speaker 1: MC And by the time I got to the end
Speaker 1: of it, I was like, well, why hasn't this happened sooner?
Speaker 1: For you? To be honest, it's just.
Speaker 3: About the about the stars aligning. It's been a really
Speaker 3: credible journey, and I think one of my most favorite
Speaker 3: things about it has been people that I work with you.
Speaker 3: When I got into the entertainment industry, I did want
Speaker 3: to be really successful and achieve some certain things, some
Speaker 3: highly creative, and I've got big ideas and so there
Speaker 3: were certain things that I wanted to achieve. And I've
Speaker 3: said to myself in the beginning, I won't be outworked.
Speaker 3: I won't not get this because I haven't worked hard enough.
Speaker 3: So that was my goal. That's what I set out
Speaker 3: to do, and to take on criticism and get better
Speaker 3: and better and better. And now I'm really enjoying that,
Speaker 3: and the people around me have just gone well. Of course,
Speaker 3: when I first get into the entertainment industry, I was
Speaker 3: like I had no money. I was like living in paran,
Speaker 3: like off my girlfriend's credit card, like neither of us
Speaker 3: had any money, right, And I was like, how can
Speaker 3: I use my personality to make money? And the first
Speaker 3: thing that came to my mind was to become an escort.
Speaker 3: I was like, I could be at a table.
Speaker 1: I'm like making personality only fans ahead of your Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no escorting anymore.
Speaker 1: It is a dream job for you, and I mean,
Speaker 1: I couldn't be happier for you. I think this is
Speaker 1: just so fantastic. But which presenters have you looked up
Speaker 1: to over the years. Because we all have someone in
Speaker 1: our back pocket that we like borrow bits and pieces from,
Speaker 1: are you able to share that with me. Are there
Speaker 1: any people that you've watched on Telly growing up that
Speaker 1: you've sort of borrowed some things from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there are two. For me. In terms
Speaker 3: of Australia, it's Bert Newton. I think he was a
Speaker 3: classic example of it's your personality and go and be
Speaker 3: one hundred percent you, and that's sort of what I
Speaker 3: was told to do with this show. We booked you,
Speaker 3: so we need you to go out and be you.
Speaker 3: And then the other one in terms of like interview
Speaker 3: style where I would really love to get to. It's
Speaker 3: like a gram Norton, Yeah, could hease my idol interview
Speaker 3: style where he doesn't ever really like ask a question.
Speaker 3: He almost like accuses someone of something, and then the
Speaker 3: story that they tell is like them defending themselves because
Speaker 3: he would be like, so you you don't actually brush
Speaker 3: your teeth, do you?
Speaker 1: Bench?
Speaker 3: And then so, yeah, that's that's the interview style that
Speaker 3: I would like to get to, and that's something that
Speaker 3: I'll always work on.
Speaker 1: Well, I've watched the first few episodes and I have
Speaker 1: to say you asked and nailing the brief because you
Speaker 1: are very present with your interactions with the contestants. The
Speaker 1: Aussie players, however, we want to refer to them, and
Speaker 1: you can see that is kind of the magic of
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: Even at the airport when we were all flying out together,
Speaker 3: I was just like getting around and like talking to people,
Speaker 3: and they're just I just thought they were all really
Speaker 3: really great people. They were all really really nice and
Speaker 3: supportive of me, and especially with pronoun news and all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. They all got told before left,
Speaker 3: and they all were really conscious of it and did
Speaker 3: their absolute best to get it right. Well.
Speaker 1: The headlines read first non binary presenter to front a
Speaker 1: major TV show in Australia. How does that reality feel?
Speaker 3: I feel over the moon about it. I think as
Speaker 3: someone in the public, I think it's really important to
Speaker 3: represent your people. I'm happy to be a spokesperson for that. Like,
Speaker 3: obviously you've got to have boundaries and that kind of
Speaker 3: stuff along the way, but I think you do have
Speaker 3: a responsibility. I feel like I'm educated enough in it,
Speaker 3: and I feel like I have enough lived experience, and
Speaker 3: I want to I just want to make it easier
Speaker 3: for other people, not just queer people, but also cisgendered
Speaker 3: non queer people who just have no idea. They're so
Speaker 3: scared to get it wrong. They don't even know how
Speaker 3: to ask the question. It's like, okay, well, let's just
Speaker 3: start a dialogue in this massive space and then you
Speaker 3: can take in from it what you want and you
Speaker 3: don't actually have to like be directly involved in the conversation.
Speaker 3: You can just listen. And I think that that goes
Speaker 3: a long way. Visibility goes a long way, and I
Speaker 3: think that that is one of the most important things
Speaker 3: in getting people to understand diversity and gender and everything
Speaker 3: that goes along with it.
Speaker 1: I think as well, you know, fear can be really difficult.
Speaker 1: When someone's fearful of getting something wrong or they're fearful
Speaker 1: of something, we're not at our best. And so with you,
Speaker 1: you're very disarming. And I watched a few interviews with you.
Speaker 1: As I said, I'm obsessed with you. So I've been
Speaker 1: watching them on YouTube and a few people got your
Speaker 1: they got your pronouns wrong, and you didn't get upset
Speaker 1: about it. You know, you laughed it off and you
Speaker 1: put them at ease. Like at one point you said, oh, look,
Speaker 1: I still get my pronouns wrong, and that person looks
Speaker 1: genuinely terrified when they got the pronoun wrong, and I
Speaker 1: was like, disarming the fear is a huge part of
Speaker 1: the conversation. And I think if if anyone's going to
Speaker 1: forefront a community, then I think you are perfect for it.
Speaker 3: Thank you. That means a lot to me, It really does,
Speaker 3: because you know, you know how the queer community can
Speaker 3: get as well. Then it's like, you know, so I
Speaker 3: do I want to do a really really good job.
Speaker 3: I want to I want to make sure that it's
Speaker 3: easier for non binary people, trans people feel more comfortable
Speaker 3: in themselves, or make it easier for them to have
Speaker 3: a conversation because it's not the first time they're bringing
Speaker 3: up a pronoun to someone at work or their parents
Speaker 3: or their family and that kind of thing. And I
Speaker 3: think it's the more that we can have these conversations,
Speaker 3: the better. And we're moving slowly, but I can't believe
Speaker 3: it's twenty twenty two and I'm the first non binary
Speaker 3: host on a major TV show, you know, so we've
Speaker 3: got a long way to go. But I've said this
Speaker 3: all along. It's like, kudos to Channel ten for taking
Speaker 3: a risk on me because I am a'm new talent
Speaker 3: and non binary, and I think we're going to nail
Speaker 3: it well.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the best question to ask you
Speaker 1: at this point. I mean, how did this show come about?
Speaker 1: How did this job come about for you to host
Speaker 1: the challenge? I wouldn't say you're an unknown because you know,
Speaker 1: you have been in the industry for quite some time,
Speaker 1: you know, with so much work that you've been able
Speaker 1: to achieve in such a small space of time. But
Speaker 1: then to get picked to this level, like how did
Speaker 1: your name come up?
Speaker 3: It was a right place at the right time, That's
Speaker 3: literally all it was. I was m seeing an event
Speaker 3: at the Melbourne Cricket Ground for a lady lunch and
Speaker 3: I was hosting with doing this songwriting thing and it
Speaker 3: was just a gig and I was on and you know,
Speaker 3: and one of the producers of the all the shows
Speaker 3: here Channel ten, she was just in the audience and
Speaker 3: you know, she didn't even come up to me. She
Speaker 3: did not even come up to me and talk to
Speaker 3: me that day, so, you know, no idea who she was.
Speaker 3: And then I got a call from Stephen Tate, the
Speaker 3: producer of the show, maybe two weeks later, and he
Speaker 3: was like, hey, Brannie's Stephen you know Network ten, We're
Speaker 3: looking at you for this role. Presenting to MTV America tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I want to make sure you're interested. Have you heard
Speaker 3: of the challenge? Are you available these dates? Blah blah blah,
Speaker 3: And I was like, yes, yes, yes, do you need
Speaker 3: like can I send you like a show reel? Can
Speaker 3: I we like, what do you need, Steven, because like,
Speaker 3: we've got it all, We've got it all. And then
Speaker 3: got a message from him maybe a week later, MTV
Speaker 3: love you. We're just waiting for you know, final confirmations.
Speaker 3: And then this one day I'll get up stage at
Speaker 3: the Forum. I'm doing a corporate gig at the Forum.
Speaker 3: So I've just played this incredible venue. Pick up my
Speaker 3: phone Stephen Tate and he was like, pack your bags,
Speaker 3: we're going out Argentina.
Speaker 1: And I was like what success.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I didn't even I didn't find out
Speaker 3: any of this until Stephen and Tony another guy, Dan
Speaker 3: took me out for lunch and I was like, how
Speaker 3: how did you find me? I have no idea how
Speaker 3: you about. Tony was like, I was just at that
Speaker 3: lunch and I just thought you were the had the
Speaker 3: best personality and we're one of the best mcs. I'd
Speaker 3: ever said, And she goes I reckon, that's our new host.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was. It was pretty funny and just
Speaker 3: a classic right place, right time.
Speaker 1: Had you heard of the show? Like, did you know
Speaker 1: of the show Man?
Speaker 3: This is yes, I knew. I knew of the show,
Speaker 3: but I had had you know, I knew who TJ
Speaker 3: was and everything like that, but I never like sat
Speaker 3: down and watched it. So obviously went binged and I
Speaker 3: just loved it. I really really loved it. And I
Speaker 3: just that's when it really hit me and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, that's going to be me. I'm going
Speaker 3: to be there. I'm going to be in Argentina doing that.
Speaker 3: And the first time when I watched the first episode,
Speaker 3: when I got sent the first draft of one, like
Speaker 3: I literally just burst into tears. I was like, this
Speaker 3: is It's actually real and the show is really good
Speaker 3: and I was like, thank God, the show is really good.
Speaker 1: That's the stress as well. I've landed job. A friend
Speaker 1: of mine's an actress, Australian actress, and she's worked on
Speaker 1: lots of shows and she's like, you can't celebrate anything
Speaker 1: in this industry until it goes to it. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you can film stuff and it can you know, go
Speaker 1: to shit. So at this stage where we are, just
Speaker 1: right before the launch of this first episode, anyone listening
Speaker 1: to this, they have to tune in and watch it.
Speaker 1: It's one of those shows you have to see it
Speaker 1: to believe it, you know. Yeah, and I hope people do.
Speaker 1: I do feel like it's a bit of a mishmash
Speaker 1: of reality TV shows, well TV stars and sports stars,
Speaker 1: and it's a sort of a mishmash of reality shows
Speaker 1: in general. It feels like Big Brother. It feels like
Speaker 1: it's the Knockout. I don't know, if you're two young
Speaker 1: fe oh my god, it's a knockout, yes, and a
Speaker 1: little bit of X on the Beach as well. Now
Speaker 1: you describe the show.
Speaker 3: I describe it as Survivor meets Ninja Warrior meets Big Brother.
Speaker 3: So we can agree on the Big Brother thing, and yeah,
Speaker 3: the Survivor thing to me is because of like the
Speaker 3: challenges and then the Ninja Warrior stuff. Because the challenges
Speaker 3: is it like big they're really and they're only going
Speaker 3: to get bigger as the seasons. As the seasons go on.
Speaker 3: So there were times where like I had to have
Speaker 3: it like a stunt guy and had to like jump
Speaker 3: off these things, and so there are some really cool
Speaker 3: moments that I got to experience there. And the best
Speaker 3: thing about the challenges though, is they're like the ultimate equalizers.
Speaker 3: You can be the strongest, toughest, tallest person there and
Speaker 3: you might not know how to do a particular puzzle,
Speaker 3: or you can't concentrate when certain things are happening, and
Speaker 3: it's just like, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who you are,
Speaker 3: the challenges will absolutely get you.
Speaker 1: There is some unfinished business between some of these contestants though,
Speaker 1: which makes for some shaken bake drama. One of the
Speaker 1: Batchy boys has dated like three or four of the women.
Speaker 1: You know, talk about throwing the cat amongst the pigeons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even I'm dating him now, So that's you know.
Speaker 1: I'm dating him next. It's great. We've all yeah your
Speaker 1: turns soon, you know, I mean episode one, we already
Speaker 1: have a cheating scandal. Do you do you yourself want
Speaker 1: to get involved? I wondered if you are like a
Speaker 1: parent that they come to one.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be involved. I couldn't. I had to.
Speaker 3: I had to let things out at them. There are
Speaker 3: some certain things that happened and we were talking about it,
Speaker 3: like not at the house or anything. And I was like,
Speaker 3: are you sending me in? Am I going in? Come on,
Speaker 3: put me in the house, let me go, and like
Speaker 3: ruffle some feathers or let me go. You know, but
Speaker 3: I just had to I had to remain Switzerland on
Speaker 3: all of it, because you know, I had to need
Speaker 3: to be the very And there are a couple of
Speaker 3: things said at some of the eliminations and I went
Speaker 3: to be like you like to defend people. I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: and let them.
Speaker 1: Knowing you as well as I do, which is just
Speaker 1: from this podcast and watching seventy days of footage of
Speaker 1: your entire back catalogue, I just, you know, I imagine
Speaker 1: you to have some favorites. Have you got favor You
Speaker 1: said that you didn't know a lot of them from
Speaker 1: their previous work and other shows, so that's kind of
Speaker 1: giving them that new slate, which is great. But you
Speaker 1: met them at the airport, You've had small introductions. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they've showed you like a sizzle reel of basically
Speaker 1: the back catalog. Do you have any favorites.
Speaker 3: I did have some favorites. Once we sort of win
Speaker 3: what we sort of win in Love Cyrel. She was
Speaker 3: just so raw and honest and just says the best
Speaker 3: thing that comes to her mind. And I really I
Speaker 3: really enjoyed that about her. And I know she goes
Speaker 3: and you knows A has a thing every now and again,
Speaker 3: the cyclone for.
Speaker 1: People playing at home because this is a podcast, they
Speaker 1: can't see us. I was pretending to be a cyclone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just so yeah, but she always.
Speaker 3: Comes back, you know, Like I'm not saying it's great behavior,
Speaker 3: but she comes back and she's pretty. She's like working
Speaker 3: on that part of herself. And I think that you know,
Speaker 3: people near kudos for that.
Speaker 1: So I also just to jump in there. I also
Speaker 1: think that some of the best TV villains when it
Speaker 1: comes to reality TV, are actually really lovely when you
Speaker 1: meet them in person, like it's so bizarre. I'll be
Speaker 1: terrified of them. I'll be at you know, a red
Speaker 1: carpet event or you know, something that a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of influenzer losers go along to, and I'll see them.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh my god, that person is frightening.
Speaker 1: It's terrifying. I'll use Geniliano for an example, because she
Speaker 1: she won't mind. She is so lovely and easy to
Speaker 1: deal with on the day to day, so like, it's
Speaker 1: an interesting thing for so rell to be a cyclone
Speaker 1: on TV and then for her to be so lovely
Speaker 1: to deal with in between. You know, she just.
Speaker 3: Gets you can see, she just gets triggered by stuff,
Speaker 3: and like we all have triggers and we all deal
Speaker 3: with them in different ways. Hers to deal with it
Speaker 3: right then and there, you know, go for it.
Speaker 1: I'm here for That's what I'm here for. For it.
Speaker 3: I also loved Kiki as well. She was just a hoot.
Speaker 3: Every challenge was like if I got my lashes on
Speaker 3: and my lash is still yep, oh my god, my extensions.
Speaker 1: I absolutely adored Bachelor in Paradise. I think I remember
Speaker 1: watching her on that and just being like, Wow, you know,
Speaker 1: this is the kind of person you want to invite
Speaker 1: to a house party just her and no one else,
Speaker 1: and it'd feel like ninety people were there, a.
Speaker 3: Hundred. I absolutely adored her. We would we would like
Speaker 3: when we're coming back from shoots. We would often because
Speaker 3: I was able to have my own hair and makeup
Speaker 3: guy there, when we would be on our way back
Speaker 3: from shoots, and we'd just be like, he said, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just hilarious. It's so dramatic, so dramatic in the
Speaker 3: in the challenges and stuff.
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of these guys on like Master Chef,
Speaker 1: Big Brother, Love Ireland, The Bachelor. You know, there's some
Speaker 1: of them a sports starf, some of them have problematic
Speaker 1: backstory as we kind of know. But do you think
Speaker 1: a lot of people have turned up on this show
Speaker 1: to maybe show us a different site? Are we going
Speaker 1: to get to see redemption or do you think this
Speaker 1: will be a whole lot of history.
Speaker 3: I'd say it's a little of Colin, a little from
Speaker 3: Colin B. But I do I do agree with you.
Speaker 3: I think that a lot of them have come to
Speaker 3: put themselves in a different light. And that's probably one
Speaker 3: of my most favorite things about the show is that
Speaker 3: you do get to see them in a different light
Speaker 3: and a lot of them do go on this journey
Speaker 3: that is unlike you've ever seen them before, and especially
Speaker 3: because they do these like massive challenges, right and you know,
Speaker 3: there's a certain bond that comes with that kind of
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, like in a team and that kind
Speaker 3: of thing, and then you've got all this adrenaline pumping
Speaker 3: through your body you're on a TV show and it
Speaker 3: just I think it gives you like a vulnerability. And
Speaker 3: then sometimes the person that you don't really get along with,
Speaker 3: you two experience this thing together and then you have
Speaker 3: this bond and it's like hard to hate them. It's
Speaker 3: like we're being on a footy team, right, and you
Speaker 3: might not get along with everyone, but you still need
Speaker 3: them to pass you the fucking ball every now and again,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So it's a really like
Speaker 3: interesting concept and like story arc that some of them
Speaker 3: go on. And that's one of my most favorite things
Speaker 3: about the show.
Speaker 1: I always think though the movie Speed Love that movie
Speaker 1: Canna Reeves Sandra Bull like both gods. Yes, relationships based
Speaker 1: on intense situations never work out, so you know, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: You do make friends with people in reality shows like this,
Speaker 1: and it's an unlikely pairing and it works on the show,
Speaker 1: but then you put them in the real world and
Speaker 1: it just fizzles out. There'll be a lot of that
Speaker 1: going on post show.
Speaker 3: There's definitely you know, people who have been hanging out
Speaker 3: post show and people who are like, we can see
Speaker 3: them again, so we'll.
Speaker 1: Read about it the daily mail. You know, these types
Speaker 1: of reality to contestants are very well versed with the
Speaker 1: media Daily Mail, for example, how will you keep their
Speaker 1: mouth shut on what went down in Argentina? That's what
Speaker 1: I want to know, that.
Speaker 3: Is that is an excellent question that I don't really
Speaker 3: have the answer to. I think that everyone believes in
Speaker 3: the show. I think everyone believes in the integrity of
Speaker 3: the show. I know a few things have been leaked,
Speaker 3: and I definitely thought about where those things might have
Speaker 3: come from. But I think that most people really believe
Speaker 3: in the integrity of the show.
Speaker 1: We have to get to the end of this because
Speaker 1: I know that you're talking to a lot of people today. Yes,
Speaker 1: busy person, how do you think we're going to stack
Speaker 1: up against the world in the Challenge World Championship. This
Speaker 1: person who takes this competition out is going to represent Australia.
Speaker 1: You know, how do you think we're going to go.
Speaker 3: Australians are excellent export and we're always very competitive, so
Speaker 3: I'm sure that we're going to do very very well
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 1: Everyone who joins the podcast gets this question, what is
Speaker 1: something from behind the scenes, something that we won't know
Speaker 1: that we won't see on TV when it plays kind
Speaker 1: of like a behind the scenes secret from the challenge.
Speaker 3: One thing that was a surprise on the challenge was
Speaker 3: how good the crew was. So we went in there
Speaker 3: and this crew has like they've been there since February
Speaker 3: filming like the UK version, the US version, then US
Speaker 3: and then the Argentinian version, and they were they had
Speaker 3: been there for a long long time. I know, people
Speaker 3: come off these things sometimes and they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: everyone was so great and blah blah blah. This team
Speaker 3: like when we got introduced, we got introduced from the
Speaker 3: like one of the head producers there and he was
Speaker 3: like stood us in front of the whole crew and
Speaker 3: he's like, you know how, we're a family. These new
Speaker 3: people from Australia, they're our family now, and so you
Speaker 3: treat them like they're our family.
Speaker 1: Are they filming twenty four hours a day?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: Are they there? Is there a crew?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So you got like ABC crews like it was
Speaker 3: it's nuts. They're filming twenty four hours a day.
Speaker 1: So there's like a and so people recording certain people
Speaker 1: like do you have a team. Like I remember with
Speaker 1: Big Brother, there would be like story producers and they'd
Speaker 1: be like, go and follow these people or go and
Speaker 1: follow them, so it's a bit like that.
Speaker 3: It was. It was unbelievable and like, I've got best
Speaker 3: friends over there now.
Speaker 1: Who I will have for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3: And I said to Stephen the producer from Australia, I
Speaker 3: was like, it's like I could like cry at how
Speaker 3: much I love these people. And he was.
Speaker 2: I was like, are all I was like, all TV
Speaker 2: shows like this and he goes, this is like an anormally,
Speaker 2: this is the one in a million, and I was like,
Speaker 2: because he was, he was feeling it as well.
Speaker 3: He was like, these people are just it was just
Speaker 3: like just a big love best we came. I came
Speaker 3: away from there just being it'll go down in history,
Speaker 3: I'm sure as one of my most incredible TV experiences.
Speaker 1: Ever until the next series and you know of the challenge.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the next series, hit me up. I know
Speaker 1: so many reality TV people that were so upset that
Speaker 1: they weren't on it. Some of them even told people
Speaker 1: that they were going to be on it. And then
Speaker 1: I always think, why tell people are going to be
Speaker 1: on a reality show when you know you're not, because
Speaker 1: you're only going to let people down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's a season two.
Speaker 2: It's going to be hused, watch it, watch it so
Speaker 2: we can get to season two.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to need to beg people
Speaker 1: to watch this show. Just I'm just saying, there is
Speaker 1: enough buzz about this that I feel like we're being
Speaker 1: catered for, and like, even just to get a preview
Speaker 1: of the first episode, I literally had to give blood
Speaker 1: and donate a liver, and you know there's.
Speaker 3: And we thank you for your servants.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I'm feeling a little woozy after
Speaker 1: giving that much blood. No, no, no, it was just thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming on the podcast and talking
Speaker 1: and being so generous with your time as well. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I have been in your audience for
Speaker 1: the last week, and I feel like I'm going to
Speaker 1: be in your audience for the rest of your life.
Speaker 3: So I think we're pretty much going to be best
Speaker 3: friends from now we're r IV It was great. One
Speaker 3: season of the Challenge.
Speaker 1: The best. Thanks mate, I really appreciate it, all right.
Speaker 3: Thanks Ben,