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Speaker 1: Welcome back TV Reload listeners, thank you for clicking and downloading.
Speaker 1: On today's episode of TV Reload with King George, we
Speaker 1: will be talking about Australian Survivor, of course, but we'll
Speaker 1: also be discussing his new role on Talking Tribal, which
Speaker 1: will be a digital show as a sideshow on ten
Speaker 1: Play each week. Australian Survivor Titans Versus Rebels will be
Speaker 1: a showdown that pits the winners against the underdogs and
Speaker 1: the big wigs against the battlers, with each player competing
Speaker 1: for the grand prize of half a million dollars. I
Speaker 1: can't believe it's five hundred thousand dollars. That seems like
Speaker 1: a lot of money. From lawyers to teachers, sports agents
Speaker 1: to powerlifters, bounty hunters and firefighters. Sounds like a pitch
Speaker 1: for a reboot of the Village people if you ask me,
Speaker 1: Australia is set for a diverse season of new players,
Speaker 1: which audience has really been crying out for. There is
Speaker 1: so much to unpack with George today, what he thinks
Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty four Castaways why this theme Titans
Speaker 1: Versus Rebels appeals to him. We will also hear about
Speaker 1: his favorite Survivor moves and his biggest regrets playing in
Speaker 1: two seasons that we've seen so far. I will ask
Speaker 1: about the casting of himself with Blood Versus Water, runner up,
Speaker 1: Chrissy on talking Tribal, and why Kara and Hayley were
Speaker 1: looked over. Anyway, guys, let's bring George into the podcast
Speaker 1: to sit back and relax as we dive just that
Speaker 1: little bit deeper into the world of Australian television. How
Speaker 1: are you, matey?
Speaker 2: You're good, been good, Ben, been good, been busy, But
Speaker 2: I've been good.
Speaker 1: I mean you've been making money with what is the
Speaker 1: champion gambling? Is that what we call it?
Speaker 2: If you're talking about the Australian poker circuit, that is
Speaker 2: like a fun hobby for me. Look, I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot of similarities between poker and Survivor. So it's
Speaker 2: about timing and pacing yourself and making the most of
Speaker 2: opportunities that present themselves and then getting credit when you
Speaker 2: need to playing the man rather than the kind of
Speaker 2: cards that you have. So poker's great and you meet
Speaker 2: a lot of people from all walks of life, forever
Speaker 2: trad survivor cerently. Oh, definitely. I think like one of
Speaker 2: the biggest kind of like what if if that injury
Speaker 2: doesn't happen to myself and Jackie. I think she was
Speaker 2: going to have a huge season because she's one of
Speaker 2: Australia's best ever poker players and having sat on a
Speaker 2: poker table with her, I played a teams event with
Speaker 2: her when the tours stopped by Aubrey early December, and
Speaker 2: we won it. Because it was Aubrey, it wasn't as
Speaker 2: much money as in a bigger city, but she's a
Speaker 2: great player.
Speaker 1: You know, we had spoken a little while back when
Speaker 1: we were talking Amazing Race and I was trying to
Speaker 1: dig it out of you about what theme are they
Speaker 1: going to do this year? And now we know it's
Speaker 1: Rebels versus Titans. What is your thoughts on that? What
Speaker 1: are you giving that as a theme?
Speaker 2: I love the theme and I'm kind of very proud
Speaker 2: of the fact that a Strained Survivor has basically set
Speaker 2: the benchmark worldwide and this is the first time we've
Speaker 2: had this theme and I've heard a lot of people
Speaker 2: say it's Champions v. Contenders like, or David v. Goliath like,
Speaker 2: But I don't think that's the case. And I think
Speaker 2: with a theme like Titans v. Rebels, it gives the
Speaker 2: new players that we have on each tribe a lot
Speaker 2: of scope and bandwidth to do what they want in
Speaker 2: terms of the way that their tribe mentality might be
Speaker 2: set by the theme. And you can be a Titan,
Speaker 2: but you can play with an intellect or like villainous
Speaker 2: character or hero trait. You're not limited to just I'm
Speaker 2: on the hero's tribe and I've got to do everything
Speaker 2: that's right. You can be a Titan and interpret what
Speaker 2: that means in a different way from a game playing perspective,
Speaker 2: and I think it's the same with a rebel. Rebels
Speaker 2: do go against the grain, Rebels do have to sometimes
Speaker 2: fight for what they want. And I think the theme
Speaker 2: is going to set up a really exciting season and
Speaker 2: I can't wait for it to start on the twenty
Speaker 2: ninth of January. I love the plug.
Speaker 1: I love that you're always so good with the plugs
Speaker 1: you've made for television. Well, what do you know about
Speaker 1: this series so far? Do you have any early favorites
Speaker 1: from even just watching some of the early promos.
Speaker 2: I have been loving all the promos, and I think
Speaker 2: we've got a really good season ahead of us. Some
Speaker 2: of these promos have got me like, really kind of
Speaker 2: excite at the prospect of seeing these players play. Valaria's
Speaker 2: promo is just absolutely fantastic. I think Valaria has the
Speaker 2: potential to be one of the big most random Survivor
Speaker 2: characters we've ever seen. Having played with a Russian superstar
Speaker 2: in my last season of Survivor in Liz and being
Speaker 2: of a Slavic background myself, if you cross someone with
Speaker 2: the Slavic heritage, there's hell to pay. And when you
Speaker 2: combine that with a very eccentric beauty queen, I am
Speaker 2: really excited at the prospect. And we've just had so
Speaker 2: many kind of like different kind of players get introduced
Speaker 2: to us in the preseason. Viola looks like an absolute beast.
Speaker 2: I've never seen so many abs on someone in my life.
Speaker 2: So you tell yourself that Viola is going to be
Speaker 2: a real kind of challenge beast of a player and
Speaker 2: a really big character. And if we pivot over to
Speaker 2: the Rebels tribe, Arris in his promo compares himself to
Speaker 2: me and a lot of people might be thinking what
Speaker 2: do I think about that? And I'm happy to tell
Speaker 2: you I'm really excited to see another person from Western
Speaker 2: Sydney bring their life experience and their streetsmarts to the game.
Speaker 2: I don't know, George.
Speaker 1: I had a rumored that they were looking, you know
Speaker 1: that a lot of people that were going through the
Speaker 1: application process, and I spoke to a few people that
Speaker 1: were applying and got quite far, you know that they
Speaker 1: were getting frowned upon for saying that they want to
Speaker 1: be like George. You know. Yeah, the thing is we've
Speaker 1: already had a George like you.
Speaker 2: True, if you want George, you'll get George playing again.
Speaker 2: But I don't think I don't think it's helpful to
Speaker 2: kind of like compare apples and oranges. What I do
Speaker 2: think might be an ace up pharisis sleeve is being
Speaker 2: someone from a culturally linguistically diverse background from Western Sydney
Speaker 2: like I was. I think that's where the comparison probably ends,
Speaker 2: and will probably wait and see what happens in terms
Speaker 2: of like gameplay and mentality and whatnot. But I also
Speaker 2: know the strength of character that that builds and how
Speaker 2: valuable of an asset that would be going to a
Speaker 2: game like Survivor. I would always back a Western Sydney
Speaker 2: person over a Bondi influencer to do well in the game. Now,
Speaker 2: there's one person's promo who have played probably about fifty times,
Speaker 2: and that's every time I hear the words like a bloodhound,
Speaker 2: it's sence shivers up my spine and seeing him snooping
Speaker 2: around that shopping center in that promo, I just think
Speaker 2: someone like him has got so much potential in the
Speaker 2: game as well. Well.
Speaker 1: It's a good sign off from you, the King George himself.
Speaker 1: What did you know from casting producers? Because I mean
Speaker 1: you're in the building now, do they talk to you
Speaker 1: about what they might have been looking for this year?
Speaker 2: I'm not involved in those conversations, but there's a lot
Speaker 2: of material out there. You work in the podcast space.
Speaker 2: A lot of these kind of like TV execs go
Speaker 2: on podcasts themselves, and I think the more astute person
Speaker 2: that wants to learn what people are looking for just
Speaker 2: needs to listen to the material that's out there, because
Speaker 2: it is out there. I spoke about my own TV
Speaker 2: journey in my book, which also got released in December,
Speaker 2: How to Win Friends and manipulate people. What worked for
Speaker 2: me wasn't deviating from being myself. And I think when
Speaker 2: you go on a TV show, many things need to
Speaker 2: happen for it to work. But if you try and
Speaker 2: put on a character that isn't true to the one
Speaker 2: hundred and ten percent version of yourself, it's not going
Speaker 2: to work, but more importantly, going to have any kind
Speaker 2: of connection with the audience. And what gets me really
Speaker 2: excited about this cast is we've got people from all
Speaker 2: parts of the country with different life experience, and they're
Speaker 2: all hungry to play the game. And I think if
Speaker 2: we go from like a survivor game perspective, I feel
Speaker 2: like after Heroes v. Villains in particular, the game has
Speaker 2: elevated to a different level. Gone are the days of
Speaker 2: hiding under the radar, playing in the shadows, lowering your
Speaker 2: threat level and trying to do as little as possible
Speaker 2: and delivering probably a boring TV product. The game's picked
Speaker 2: up its pace, it's transformed. And if a lot of
Speaker 2: these people were comparing themselves to me in the casting process,
Speaker 2: and whether they got on or not is immaterial, I
Speaker 2: think what that shows is there's been a kind of
Speaker 2: cultural shift in terms of what to bring to the
Speaker 2: table when you play Survivor, and that's what gets me
Speaker 2: excited about a cast of new players and these Titans
Speaker 2: and Rebels, I feel like they have evolved in terms
Speaker 2: of Survivor players and they're going to make a very
Speaker 2: good seasonal. How to make friends and then make situations
Speaker 2: work for you and manipulate people's the drama way of
Speaker 2: saying that. But the key kind of story in the book,
Speaker 2: in all the stories that have a lesson in there,
Speaker 2: is you are fully able to make a situation work
Speaker 2: for you, and if it works for the other party
Speaker 2: at the same time, you've manipulated them. But if you
Speaker 2: both get a positive outcome, then it's a satisfactory and
Speaker 2: a win win situation for both parties. And that was
Speaker 2: the secret to my Survivor game. My book's not an
Speaker 2: academic book. It's an entertainment book, and there are definitely
Speaker 2: a lot of Survivor stories in there, but it kind
Speaker 2: of like opens the layers into what worked for me
Speaker 2: in terms of a mindset, and that involves my upbringing,
Speaker 2: my former work history working as a political staffer and
Speaker 2: in government, and that Western Sydney mentality and what it
Speaker 2: means and how you can apply that in different life situations.
Speaker 2: And if that's a good window for a future Survivor player,
Speaker 2: I highly encourage them to read the book or listen
Speaker 2: to it on Spotify if they got Spotify Premium, and
Speaker 2: put it into practice in a future season.
Speaker 1: Retrospectively, looking back at your seasons, what would you say
Speaker 1: is your facevor moves that you managed to pull off?
Speaker 2: I think obviously the episode seven Tribal Council, like when
Speaker 2: You've got the New York Times picking that out as
Speaker 2: one of the key TV moments worldwide. Ever, that does
Speaker 2: bring me a great deal of pride and joint But
Speaker 2: I did a lot of difficult things, and I think
Speaker 2: before that one, it was the merge episode in season
Speaker 2: six Brains v. Brawn when I played as a double
Speaker 2: agent and had two idols limited out of the game
Speaker 2: and pulled that all off really last minute. And I
Speaker 2: think the beauty of Survivor is and this is what
Speaker 2: I hope to see from the new players in Titans v.
Speaker 2: Rebels from both tribes. You can do whatever you want
Speaker 2: in the game, and the players that take advantage of
Speaker 2: the opportunities that are presented before them, and that includes
Speaker 2: having conversations with people, working out their intent, their priority,
Speaker 2: their motivations, and then putting it into action, noting that
Speaker 2: it might be a difficult thing to do or a
Speaker 2: risky thing to do, and then taking the ball by
Speaker 2: the haunts. That's where I think we've seen the cultural
Speaker 2: shit in terms of Surviving Survivor players and mentality, and
Speaker 2: that's what I want to see from these new players
Speaker 2: in this new season.
Speaker 1: What about your worst move? Can you just tell me
Speaker 1: what is the one thing that you've watched it back
Speaker 1: and thought, why did I do that?
Speaker 2: Why did I do that? Why did I assume it
Speaker 2: was a final two in Samoa like we all did.
Speaker 2: To be fair, I would have one hundred and ten
Speaker 2: percent voted off Matt at the final five, and I
Speaker 2: probably would have won half a million dollars.
Speaker 1: That might have put an end to the story. Like
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we wouldn't be still so thirsty for
Speaker 1: you to come back on Australian Survivor or a Global Survivor.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like the fact that you haven't won
Speaker 1: yet just makes us just that little bit more thirsty
Speaker 1: to see you play again.
Speaker 2: Fortunately for me, I've resumed my commentator seat as a
Speaker 2: co host of Strain and Survive, a talking tribal. Playing
Speaker 2: survivor takes a toll on your body, and having come
Speaker 2: out injured from Somola, it took a severe toll of
Speaker 2: my body. And I'm very happy to be watching from
Speaker 2: the commentator's lounge. I feel like I'll be like those
Speaker 2: football panelists calling the coverage on Paramount Plus of the
Speaker 2: A League or the Asian Cup that's on right now
Speaker 2: and then, and I can call a spade a spade
Speaker 2: from the sidelines and not have to worry about the
Speaker 2: physical side of the game that we love so much.
Speaker 1: Congratulations by the way, on getting that job. And I
Speaker 1: think that that's the perfect way to still include you
Speaker 1: in a season because people like everyone I spoke to
Speaker 1: us like yeah, but it's this season't going to be
Speaker 1: any good because you know George is not there, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, George is still a part of the
Speaker 1: series in a big way because we're going to get commentary,
Speaker 1: and I think it's perfect for you. What can you
Speaker 1: tell us about the panel though, who's joining you on
Speaker 1: the panel, What can we expect from you?
Speaker 2: I think this is an absolutely fantastic panel, So joining
Speaker 2: me from the X Player panelist perspective is the runner
Speaker 2: up of Austrained Survivor, Blood Vee Water. Chrissy's a remba.
Speaker 2: I like to call Chrissy everybody's favorite Auntie and Chrissy
Speaker 2: has one of the greatest social games we've ever seen
Speaker 2: in a strained Survivor. And what someone like Chrissy showed
Speaker 2: and what she brings to the panel is that there's
Speaker 2: many different ways to succeed in the game of Survivor.
Speaker 2: It's not all just strategy and politics, which worked really
Speaker 2: well for me, but she really brings that kind of
Speaker 2: like social expert and I can't wait to see what
Speaker 2: Auntie thinks of the episodes, and you'll be able to
Speaker 2: find that out on Talking Tribe on and of course
Speaker 2: Shannon Gus the worldwide Survivor Expert data legend who can
Speaker 2: reel off any stat from any season in the English
Speaker 2: speaking world worldwide. And I think it's a great panel
Speaker 2: that will have lots of different kind of lived experience
Speaker 2: and thought track and process and then the stats and
Speaker 2: the data behind it to flesh out and break down
Speaker 2: every single move.
Speaker 1: What has your relationship been like with Chrissy behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: because from what I understand it, you two have developed
Speaker 1: a bit of a bff relationship that people might not
Speaker 1: be aware of. How does the dynamic work between the
Speaker 1: two of you?
Speaker 2: I think I just I touch base with Chrissy just
Speaker 2: before bloodby Water started daring, because what fullness of Fiber
Speaker 2: players have is a shared experience, and I just drew
Speaker 2: an instant connect with Chrissy. She's just such a fantastic,
Speaker 2: magical person. And let me tell you my delight when
Speaker 2: I got told she was the co host for Talking
Speaker 2: Tribal it brought me significant joy. And she's just a
Speaker 2: magnificent person. And it's gonna be It's gonna be a
Speaker 2: fun panel. Put it that way.
Speaker 1: Is Kara though, or Haley, you know two of your
Speaker 1: BFFs on series. Are they disappointed not to be sitting
Speaker 1: there with you or is there a reason why they're
Speaker 1: not sitting there with you? What can you tell us
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: Well, Hayley's just had a baby, so it's a change
Speaker 2: in terms of like life priorities from her perspective. But
Speaker 2: Caa is also still my best friend in life and
Speaker 2: a great person. But who knows, they could they could
Speaker 2: be back in the future.
Speaker 1: We'll get them for a cameo. Is it hard to
Speaker 1: make genuine friendships though, because the nature of this show
Speaker 1: is that you set up to sort of manipulate and
Speaker 1: deceive each other, And so then how does the evolution
Speaker 1: happen once the show finishes if you struggle to maintain real,
Speaker 1: genuine friendships with these people.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's really like that in reality. Ben.
Speaker 2: In reality, particularly the people that you work within the game,
Speaker 2: you have this kind of like shared experience where you're
Speaker 2: living together in very harsh conditions twenty four to seven,
Speaker 2: and that is probably years worth of friendship in the
Speaker 2: outside world. And when I talk about Caro, who's literally
Speaker 2: my best friend in life, who I insisted would be
Speaker 2: my family member if I made it to the finale
Speaker 2: in Samoa, and then I kept being told no, it
Speaker 2: has to be a real family member, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it's going to be a family and then I got
Speaker 2: told it's going to be your mum. So when I
Speaker 2: have the shock of my life when it actually was Kara,
Speaker 2: it's like, that's the level of bond you form with
Speaker 2: your friends out there, or your allies or whatnot, and
Speaker 2: it's like nothing compares to the relationship that I have
Speaker 2: with Hailey where we're such close friends but such enemies
Speaker 2: and rivals in the game, and having a conversation about
Speaker 2: Survivor with Haley is fantastic. And then if we pivot
Speaker 2: back to Chrissy the co host and talking tribal, it's like,
Speaker 2: I've never played with Chrissy, but I have this intrinsic
Speaker 2: bond with her where I've stayed at a house and
Speaker 2: you know, had dinner with her husband and her children,
Speaker 2: and travel you know, to the Sunny Coast to hang
Speaker 2: out with her for lunch or just for social gatherings.
Speaker 2: And it's not just a case of whether you played
Speaker 2: with them in your own season. Sometimes like you're just
Speaker 2: drawn to similar people. And I think that's what it
Speaker 2: was with Chrissy, and then like with Haley or Kara
Speaker 2: or you know, lots of other people, way Simon included
Speaker 2: in that himself. You just have that bond and you
Speaker 2: have it for life.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny that Chrissy and you are always
Speaker 1: on everyone's board, you know when they do those and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've read them as well, because I read
Speaker 1: them all the time. But you know where people have
Speaker 1: got their favorite players or who should be on Global
Speaker 1: Survivor or your names both always come up on that.
Speaker 1: But I was also going to say the dynamic of
Speaker 1: that show is there people that you played opposite against
Speaker 1: and then met in the real world that were completely
Speaker 1: different to who they were on the show.
Speaker 2: I feel like when you're actually playing Survivor, you see
Speaker 2: the truest version of people. Okay, the stress and the pressure,
Speaker 2: the situation. So I feel like it is what it
Speaker 2: is with a show like Survivor because you can't you
Speaker 2: can't put a veneer on in those conditions, and you
Speaker 2: see how people deal with pressure, they react with stressful situations,
Speaker 2: or when they're physically exhausted and starving and they've had
Speaker 2: no sleep. You work out who people are, and what
Speaker 2: you have to do is separate the actual game, which
Speaker 2: the goal of the game is to vote someone else
Speaker 2: out or for you not to get voted out, and
Speaker 2: they're two different things strategically, but they can be parked
Speaker 2: in the same camp with what that person would be
Speaker 2: like in the outside world. But usually the impression that
Speaker 2: you get with someone in the game is the same
Speaker 2: outside of the game. You're just not hungry and not
Speaker 2: tired and not in a stressful situation. You're in a
Speaker 2: social situation or at their house. Do you know what?
Speaker 1: The thing that I want to know from you with
Speaker 1: Talking Tribal is, how are you going to create? Because
Speaker 1: you always, no matter what show you do, no matter
Speaker 1: what you do, you create a really amazing television moment.
Speaker 1: Are we going to see a television moment on this show? Like,
Speaker 1: are you already planning that?
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's not about planning a television moment. If
Speaker 2: people think me being me creates good television and call
Speaker 2: it moments, that's great. That's why I do the work
Speaker 2: that I do, and I've been doing it for the
Speaker 2: past two years. What I'll be doing and what my
Speaker 2: role on the Talking Tribal panel is to give the
Speaker 2: political perspective of what's happening in the game and to
Speaker 2: provide commentary and my perspective on what's happening in the game.
Speaker 2: And that'll be very different to someone like Shannon's perspective
Speaker 2: and very different to Chris's perspective. Shannon brings the kind
Speaker 2: of like computer data based strategy on what would be optimal.
Speaker 2: I bring the human and the political and the emotional
Speaker 2: element which is what worked for me in the game.
Speaker 2: And Chrissy brings a completely different perspective. She brings Auntie,
Speaker 2: she brings social she brings complete relationship, and I think
Speaker 2: the combination of the three of us will be a
Speaker 2: very exciting after show.
Speaker 1: Was kNN upset that he's not coming back. I felt
Speaker 1: like Kahn was doing a really good job on that show.
Speaker 1: Are you actually going to go back on watching of
Speaker 1: Khan's work from last year?
Speaker 2: And well, I'd watched every episode of Talking Tribal and
Speaker 2: ten play lasking. But keep in mind, Khan held the
Speaker 2: seat warm for me because I was the panelist on
Speaker 2: Bloodbooth Water.
Speaker 1: Yes, I know, but now that you're more iconic than ever,
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be some leveling up. George.
Speaker 1: Before you go, I have to just ask you the
Speaker 1: most common question that is written about you on the internet,
Speaker 1: and that has anyone from American Survivor ever reached out
Speaker 1: to you, any of the official people. Have they had
Speaker 1: any communication at all with you?
Speaker 2: Well, I spent three weeks doing the Survivor to a
Speaker 2: circuit and a different kind of fan events and whatnot
Speaker 2: in December, and that was a great deal of fun
Speaker 2: and you meet a lot of people there, but I'm
Speaker 2: talking ex American Survivor is a different beast. It's a
Speaker 2: different beast. But what I'm happy to be doing is
Speaker 2: doing the commentary for Austrained Survivor right now because our
Speaker 2: season starts on the twenty ninth of January, and I
Speaker 2: want Australian Survivor to succeed so we can get close
Speaker 2: to season fifty like they are in the US. That
Speaker 2: sometimes the real politician answer comes out, doesn't it, Ben?
Speaker 1: I was prepared for that, because you know what you
Speaker 1: gave me some really like a politician answer for a
Speaker 1: lot of the amazing race questions I have for you.
Speaker 1: So I was prepared.
Speaker 2: I was really frank with my opinion on people.
Speaker 1: Oh some of those people, yes, because there was someone
Speaker 1: in particular now I can't remember who it was, but
Speaker 1: they ended up on the podcast, and sometimes you don't
Speaker 1: think anyone would listen, but they'd heard our conversation. Kind
Speaker 1: of got me into trouble because you saying something about
Speaker 1: them that meant I said something about them, and then
Speaker 1: they were upset about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, dear Ben. But that's why your podcast does really well,
Speaker 2: because I've had you.
Speaker 1: On three times. George. You know last year you were
Speaker 1: my second most listened to podcast for the years, so
Speaker 1: that's how popular you are.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I love coming on your podcast, Ben, And
Speaker 2: every time I see the podcast ratings in the TV
Speaker 2: category and you're always in the top five, I'm like,
Speaker 2: you deserve it because you put a lot of work
Speaker 2: into this and it's important that Austray and Tving in
Speaker 2: particular does well. That's what I want to say. I agree.
Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch nothing more well than a
Speaker 2: Strained Survivor or Network ten.
Speaker 1: There we go, there's the tagline. Okay, so you've been
Speaker 1: on the podcast twice before, so I have to ask
Speaker 1: you this question which I sign off with, and what
Speaker 1: is something from behind the scenes? And I know you
Speaker 1: haven't really started shooting Talking Tribal yet, but like maybe
Speaker 1: you've already worked out something something that maybe the viewers
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Doing the commentary show is probably a bit different to
Speaker 2: actually playing a Strained Survivor where there's tidbits behind the scene.
Speaker 2: And from my perspective, when we recall Talking Tribal, I
Speaker 2: am telling myself I need to call the action as
Speaker 2: I see it. I'm not worried about necessarily what the
Speaker 2: individual players are doing and then how they would feel
Speaker 2: about it. And I think the role of a commentator
Speaker 2: is to call a spade a spade, and nobody does
Speaker 2: that better than myself. And I think what I learned,
Speaker 2: which is very interesting, when I did talking Tribal for
Speaker 2: season seven Blood Vee Water, a few people are highly
Speaker 2: offended and highly strung up when I was commentating the
Speaker 2: action and then they like they kind of held that
Speaker 2: against me as a grudge. And in my mind, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: it's like, it's what happened out there, it's the story
Speaker 2: that's being told. Don't get your being U bonn it
Speaker 2: because I said what I said, and that's the attitude
Speaker 2: that I'll be taking to it. And we record the episodes.
Speaker 1: Nobody gets more offended than when someone else talks about
Speaker 1: the truth about them. That's the problem.
Speaker 2: Well, it is what it is. The difficult thing with
Speaker 2: Survive is a lot of times people have regret or
Speaker 2: could as should have would as I was thinking of
Speaker 2: doing this, but I didn't. And if I've left it
Speaker 2: impact in the game, it's for future players to take
Speaker 2: that chance in real time. And that's what I want
Speaker 2: to see and if I see things like that, I'll
Speaker 2: be heaping praise on those people. But if people play badly,
Speaker 2: I'll be calling it out.
Speaker 1: But can you tell me how early it's like you're
Speaker 1: getting to watch the episode and do you watch it
Speaker 1: with Chrissy and do you take notes? And how in
Speaker 1: advance is that happening? Like I would love to know
Speaker 1: some of that.
Speaker 2: Oh, it happens closer to the date. I know you've
Speaker 2: seen some episodes sometimes a screen as a journalist. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it's obviously not a live show. But it's a week
Speaker 2: off show.
Speaker 1: Okay, So have you recorded episode one? Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, No, I can't wait to get into the action.
Speaker 1: I'm watching the first episode tomorrow and I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: But I was sitting next to someone at a function
Speaker 1: on Monday who'd watched the first few episodes, and I
Speaker 1: felt so upset about it. I was like, I've got
Speaker 1: to get a voodoo doll out for this person. I
Speaker 1: hate this as munch.
Speaker 2: You know I'm a fan, George, let me know who
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 1: I will. I will put them on the list. George,
Speaker 1: I am obsessed with you. I can't wait to watch
Speaker 1: this side show. I think You're going to bring in
Speaker 1: a lot of viewers to it, and I love Chrissy
Speaker 1: as well. I think you guys are going to do
Speaker 1: a very good job. So congratulations and I'll be in
Speaker 1: your audience.
Speaker 2: Great. Thanks so much, Ben, I've talked you soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, chat to you mate,