Speaker 1: Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands
Speaker 1: were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders
Speaker 1: past and present.
Speaker 2: This episode is recorded on Gadigal Land of the Aurora Nation.
Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
Speaker 1: of Kinna.
Speaker 3: I'm your host, Brittany. I'm your host, Laura. We have
Speaker 3: lost the plot today. Do you know why?
Speaker 2: Because things are not as they should be. Things are
Speaker 2: not as they seem.
Speaker 3: It's a public holiday in New South Wales.
Speaker 2: We should have the day off. No, we usually record
Speaker 2: out of the studio. Things feel a little bit more
Speaker 2: I guess professional. Now when we record were recalled out
Speaker 2: of the studio, I feel like I am someone who
Speaker 2: has my shit together. I don't even have one of
Speaker 2: my earphones in. I was wondering why it felt very
Speaker 2: one sided.
Speaker 1: No, we usually recording a studio. As you guys know,
Speaker 1: it is a public holiday here in New South Wales,
Speaker 1: so we're recording from my house, which how do you
Speaker 1: think it smells?
Speaker 3: Laura?
Speaker 2: Can I just do one thing? I forgot to start
Speaker 2: my video. That's how unprofessional I am right now, that's
Speaker 2: my sink clap. I think it smells. I walked in here,
Speaker 2: into your house, brit and I was like, wow, it
Speaker 2: smells good. Don't get me wrong, it smells.
Speaker 3: I went two am on the incense sticks.
Speaker 2: It smells like a Balinese spa that's trying to hide something. Yeah,
Speaker 2: kind of like Barley in general, like smells like it
Speaker 2: smells nice, but also.
Speaker 3: You know there's an undercurrent. Yeah. My house isn't that big,
Speaker 3: and I think I went too strong. I did three.
Speaker 1: Simultaneous incense sticks because I wanted to make it nice
Speaker 1: for you guys. All the three sticks are in the
Speaker 1: one room because the room's not that big, so I've
Speaker 1: had to do some aerration. Anyway, we're recording from home today.
Speaker 1: The NRL Grand Final was on last night for both
Speaker 1: the women and the men. If anybody cares, and I
Speaker 1: say that because I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was literally just about to say which is a shame,
Speaker 2: because I know I know how important it is. Matt
Speaker 2: was out all night last night, like produce a Keisha was.
Speaker 3: Out all day yesterday, like everybody know.
Speaker 2: It's a public holiday because of the Grand I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure that that's why this exists. Is that?
Speaker 3: Why is it a public holiday? For the Grand Final.
Speaker 3: I'm sure. I don't think that's a thing. I think
Speaker 3: it's a public holiday and they put the Grand Final
Speaker 3: on because of that.
Speaker 2: So in Victoria they had their public holiday on the Friday,
Speaker 2: so it coincides with their Grand Final, and we have
Speaker 2: ours on the Monday, which coincides with ours.
Speaker 3: Now is it that the only reason? Probably not, but
Speaker 3: is it a good reason. Yes.
Speaker 2: However, Unfortunately for anybody listening to this who absolutely loves football, Brittain,
Speaker 2: I don't know much about it. But look, I'm married
Speaker 2: to someone who was a fanatic. So he was gone
Speaker 2: and he went and watched it, and then he came
Speaker 2: home very late last night and fell asleep on the couch.
Speaker 1: I am gonna put it out there. I've never watched
Speaker 1: a match like a game, Matt, my match?
Speaker 3: A game? What is it?
Speaker 2: He produced a Keisha was sitting in the corner and
Speaker 2: she is just a hating her.
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up in that football family. I remember
Speaker 1: being at school from primary school. I remember all of
Speaker 1: my friends, specifically, if they're listening, Sheri and Hannah. All
Speaker 1: of my friends were big football families, so all the
Speaker 1: families would go on the weekend to the football that'll
Speaker 1: watch it. They all had their team. My family, not
Speaker 1: one person. We're a family of six.
Speaker 3: Ever.
Speaker 1: Actually, one of my brothers will probably hate that, but
Speaker 1: we never watched a match growing up. I don't know
Speaker 1: the rules. I don't love it. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: I don't get the hype. But that's because I didn't
Speaker 1: grow up with it. I know if I went to
Speaker 1: it live, it would be amazing, because there's no live
Speaker 1: sport that isn't amazing. It's the atmosphere, it's the energy
Speaker 1: everyone has, so I know i'd love it. But I
Speaker 1: got asked to go and watch it by so many
Speaker 1: people at the pubs and stuff last night, and I
Speaker 1: was like, think, I would rather sit in my house alone.
Speaker 3: No, I really would. It's just not for me. It's
Speaker 3: not for me. Well look, and I'm sorry. I know
Speaker 3: so many people probably hate me listening to that, but.
Speaker 2: People like you didn't need to establish how much you
Speaker 2: hated it. I'm not a big football person, but I
Speaker 2: did watch it. Broncos lost.
Speaker 3: Did you watch it? Devastated? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And so when I was trying to contact you, it
Speaker 2: was just on in the background with my children whilst
Speaker 2: one of them had growing pains and the other one
Speaker 2: spiked fever.
Speaker 3: So yeah, look that was my night last night. But anyway,
Speaker 3: I have a question for you, Bretty.
Speaker 2: Moving on from the football that neither of us really
Speaker 2: watched or paid attention to, I went surfing on the weekend.
Speaker 2: Everyone I went down to Woollongong. I went down to
Speaker 2: the farm. It was one of my best friend's birthdays.
Speaker 2: And she decided for her birthday, instead of like going
Speaker 2: and having a Margarita's with the girls, which is normal
Speaker 2: most people want to go and have cocktails with their friends,
Speaker 2: she said, how about we all drive two hours and
Speaker 2: go to the farm and go for a surf lesson.
Speaker 2: And at the time I was like, I will literally
Speaker 2: do anything for you, Kaya, but this is a weird.
Speaker 3: Request, but we all did it.
Speaker 2: Now, if you've ever been to the farm, which is
Speaker 2: like about fifteen minutes south of Woollongong, I'm going to
Speaker 2: guess that most people listening to this habit, but if
Speaker 2: you have, you'll know it's a beach that's kind of
Speaker 2: quite remote.
Speaker 3: The beach is really long.
Speaker 2: The toilet's like up the very top huge stairs, Like
Speaker 2: if you need to go to the toilet, that's a
Speaker 2: hike to go to the toilet. Ein't no single person
Speaker 2: in going to the toilet. They're going and doing a
Speaker 2: bushwee at the beach, right, Yeah, So if you're surfing
Speaker 2: and you've had to overcome all these obstacles to get
Speaker 2: to the toilet, you've put on a higher wetsuit, Where
Speaker 2: does one do a wee? Where do you do a
Speaker 2: wee if you're wearing somebody else's wetsuit.
Speaker 1: I'm confused by your question because if you're in a
Speaker 1: higher wetsuit, you need to do a wi You don't
Speaker 1: get out to go to the toilet.
Speaker 3: You just wean the ocean.
Speaker 1: But if you've worn your wet suit to the toilet
Speaker 1: and then pissed in the toilet, your cook's waara, Like
Speaker 1: I thought when you originally played this question, it was.
Speaker 3: Just in the water in the west. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is is anybody is anybody who's in
Speaker 2: the ocean wearing a wetsuit getting out to go to
Speaker 2: the toilet, or is every single person just pissing in
Speaker 2: the ocean? And if that's the case, then does that
Speaker 2: mean that we're all sharing higher wetsuits that literally every
Speaker 2: single person is weeding.
Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna tell you guys something Brittany did
Speaker 3: a shit in a wet suite. No, I have not,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: Surely I've told this on the podcast at some point
Speaker 1: in our life, but I don't actually remember.
Speaker 3: Laugh all you want.
Speaker 1: I was the Australian champion for women's bodyboarding, which is
Speaker 1: the late own surfing. I was the best in the country.
Speaker 1: I was twentieth in the entire world. It was what
Speaker 1: I always did. I was like when did big wave
Speaker 1: surfing nearly drowned in Mexico at the Australian title. We
Speaker 1: had to get out because it was a great white
Speaker 1: shark in Tasmania in our heat.
Speaker 3: It was I've had some wild experiences.
Speaker 2: But I love when you tell these stories because like
Speaker 2: it's such a closet flex of yours, Like no one
Speaker 2: knows this right that this is like it's just a
Speaker 2: random thing I used to do. And then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, BRIT's like I used to buddy board. I
Speaker 2: was kind of a big deal.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty big deal. Yeah, pretty funny, but that
Speaker 1: was it. I was the best in the country. So
Speaker 1: like I just never talked about. It was like a
Speaker 1: whole nother life ago. Anyway, my point of that story
Speaker 1: is I grew up in wetsuits. Like I've always surfed
Speaker 1: all day every day. You always wear a wetsuit, you always.
Speaker 3: I am telling you.
Speaker 1: If anyone says they get out of the water to
Speaker 1: go and do a wheat, they're lying. Everyone we's in
Speaker 1: the ocean in their wetsuits. So if you have ever
Speaker 1: gone anywhere and you're doing like a small tour or something,
Speaker 1: you're putting on a rented wetsuit, someone else's weed in it.
Speaker 3: Well that's what I thought.
Speaker 2: I was there with like six girlfriends, six girlfriends, two instructors.
Speaker 2: Not one person got out of the water for a
Speaker 2: two hour lesson to go to the toilet.
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, I'll pisson. We all doing it.
Speaker 3: No one's talking about it, but.
Speaker 1: You know, we sterile, so it's not that bad. Oh,
Speaker 1: like people, I think people get really have this really
Speaker 1: bigger version to wei.
Speaker 3: But we's not bad. Do I want to bathe around
Speaker 3: in somebody else's use wetsuit in it?
Speaker 1: No? But anyway, you know people do poops in the
Speaker 1: ocean to stop. Yeah, it's called an aquaturt.
Speaker 3: I know, but no one's doing inside their wetsuit. No,
Speaker 3: but they won't get out of the water.
Speaker 1: Surfers that if the surf is good and you have
Speaker 1: been out in the water for ages.
Speaker 3: A surfer will paddle off a little bit.
Speaker 1: They would rather take their wet suit off and do
Speaker 1: what they call an aquaturd and then put their wet
Speaker 1: seed back on, then get out and miss the surf.
Speaker 1: People might deny that, but I'm telling you one hundred
Speaker 1: percent that's what people doing.
Speaker 2: Well, look, everyone, we are doing things a little bit
Speaker 2: differently this month, and we are very excited about this now.
Speaker 2: As you know, if you've been listening to podcasts for
Speaker 2: quite a long time, our Tuesday episodes are our long episodes.
Speaker 2: So we do like our chitty little chitty chat about
Speaker 2: pissing and about whatever in wetsuits at the start, and
Speaker 2: then we usually do an interview or we get into
Speaker 2: like a deeper, more complex topic and more nuanced chat.
Speaker 3: Sometimes in the.
Speaker 2: Intros of these episodes we will hit an important topic
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 3: It's not like they're always just lighthearted chatter.
Speaker 2: But what we've decided to do is because those Tuesday
Speaker 2: episodes actually usually run for like an hour and a
Speaker 2: half to an hour and forty minutes and hour and
Speaker 2: twenty They kind of vary. We are going to this
Speaker 2: month trial something new, and what that is is we're
Speaker 2: going to bring you our Tuesday episode, which will be
Speaker 2: the shorter catch up episode between Brita and I talking
Speaker 2: about what's happening in the world, something that comes from
Speaker 2: pop culture, our own lives, basically the intro that's already
Speaker 2: existing on our Tuesday episodes. That's going to be a
Speaker 2: standalone episode and that is what this is. And then
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, we're going to drop the interviews. And the
Speaker 2: reason why we decided to split these out is based
Speaker 2: off your feedback and what you guys are loving and
Speaker 2: what you guys are wanting to listen to, and it
Speaker 2: means that you're going to be able to one you
Speaker 2: can listen to everything, or two, if there's an episode
Speaker 2: and an interview that you really really really want to hear,
Speaker 2: you can kind of go straight to that instead of
Speaker 2: having to jump ahead to listen to the interview.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you want to go through and you pick somebody
Speaker 1: that is of interest to you in an interview, you
Speaker 1: do want to go straight there. And other times you
Speaker 1: want to listen to all the banter and the fun stuff.
Speaker 1: You guys are getting the same amount of content and
Speaker 1: the same amount of quality, but we're just making it
Speaker 1: easier to get to.
Speaker 3: All the parts.
Speaker 1: So from here on in, we're trialing this month, and
Speaker 1: we figured this was the month to do it because
Speaker 1: we're on live tour.
Speaker 3: We're shaking it up.
Speaker 1: So Tuesdays is going to be the fun catch up banter,
Speaker 1: Wednesdays is going to be the interviews, and then Thursdays
Speaker 1: is going to be Asking Cut exactly the same. Nothing's
Speaker 1: changed with Asking Cut, and I I'm feeling good about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm feeling good about too.
Speaker 2: I Also, I think it's going to be a really
Speaker 2: exciting month in terms of content because we are doing
Speaker 2: the live shows. If you this is your reminder, if
Speaker 2: you haven't got your tickets, go and pick them ut
Speaker 2: from Life on Cut podcast dot com dot you. We
Speaker 2: start this weekend Sunday.
Speaker 3: Is that a very best show? Oh my god, I.
Speaker 2: Know that's my nervous Okay, So Sunday our first show.
Speaker 2: We're kicking it off in Adelaide. But also what we're
Speaker 2: going to be doing this month is we're gonna have
Speaker 2: some bonus episodes. We're gonna drop a couple of episodes
Speaker 2: which will be some of the interviews from the live
Speaker 2: shows as well. Now we're not dropping all the the interviews,
Speaker 2: but we're picking out some of our favorite bits and
Speaker 2: they're going to be tiny, little bonus episodes as well.
Speaker 3: So it is a good month for laf on Card.
Speaker 3: All right, I have a question. Oh yeah, I saw
Speaker 3: this on Reddit. There is a woman that was married
Speaker 3: to her husband and.
Speaker 1: She said that the relationship was struggling a little bit.
Speaker 1: They weren't sure what it was going to happen with it,
Speaker 1: so she cheated on him. Then COVID struck and they
Speaker 1: rekindled the relationship because they got stuck in a house
Speaker 1: together and they refell.
Speaker 3: Back in love.
Speaker 1: Then she started to feel guilty that she had cheated
Speaker 1: on him this one time. She didn't know what to
Speaker 1: do about it, so she went to a church, went
Speaker 1: to a priest and confessed to get off her chest.
Speaker 1: And she also wanted to just have a really open,
Speaker 1: non judgmental discussion with someone that's not biased. Didn't feel
Speaker 1: like she could go to a friend, so she went
Speaker 1: to the one place she thought she could trust. So
Speaker 1: she went to the priest. She confessed, and he said,
Speaker 1: you have to tell him, like you have to repent,
Speaker 1: get it off your chest, heal things together and work
Speaker 1: it out. Even if it doesn't heal, you have to
Speaker 1: have this discussion. And that's my advice.
Speaker 3: Say ten hail Mary's and our fathers and off your gout. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So she left and she thought she's just going to
Speaker 1: sit on it for a while because she didn't know if.
Speaker 3: When how to broach it.
Speaker 1: She decided because things were so good and it was
Speaker 1: one mistake that she wasn't going to tell him. But
Speaker 1: then the priest followed up with the husband. So the
Speaker 1: priest said, how did things go after you know?
Speaker 3: Sarah told you? And he was like no, yeah, and
Speaker 3: he was like.
Speaker 1: The husband was like what because he didn't know, So
Speaker 1: the priest outed the wife. The wife came home one
Speaker 1: day and he was throwing all her stuff out and
Speaker 1: he kicked her out. So the relationship's over because the
Speaker 1: priest spilled the goss.
Speaker 3: What do you think about who's in the wrong here?
Speaker 3: Who is in the wrong.
Speaker 2: The priest, I mean, of course she's in the wrong.
Speaker 2: Of course she did the wrong. Thing, but correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. Most people would go and speak to
Speaker 2: a priest because they think it is completely confidential. They
Speaker 2: are bound to keep it confidential. And so I think
Speaker 2: that it is that anonymity that would have made her
Speaker 2: feel safe to talk about it, and would have made
Speaker 2: her feel like she could make her own decision.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you're not religious, if you're not Catholic or Christian,
Speaker 2: you might not know this. You got a reconciliation. You
Speaker 2: go into a tiny little box. You usually can't see
Speaker 2: the priest. There's usually like a petition that separates you.
Speaker 2: You sit there by yourself and you confess your sins,
Speaker 2: and then he usually tells you six Hail Mary's and
Speaker 2: an X amount of prayers. You have to repent on
Speaker 2: your sins, and then that's going to absolve you of
Speaker 2: your sins. I mean, I went to reconciliation when I
Speaker 2: was a kid, so my memory of it is that.
Speaker 1: So I've never done it, like I don't even know,
Speaker 1: I've never even started that prespox.
Speaker 2: Well, so I've only ever been with like such trivial possums.
Speaker 1: She's laughing at my terminology that I called it a priestpot,
Speaker 1: it's the pritpot.
Speaker 2: I've never been with a complex problem, you know. I
Speaker 2: was like, seven, I've never been with a complex problem
Speaker 2: that the priest has said you need to go and
Speaker 2: explain yourself to these people. There's never been like outside
Speaker 2: ramifications other than like prayer repentance. So, for one, probably
Speaker 2: didn't overstep the line if he didn't give all the information.
Speaker 2: He just gave enough information for the husband to fill
Speaker 2: in the blank.
Speaker 3: But it's like he wanted It's like the priest low
Speaker 3: key wanted him to know. He was like, how do
Speaker 3: you drama? How do you feel after finding out about You.
Speaker 2: Know, nobody's going to trust him to come to him
Speaker 2: with their problems if he's taking upon himself to be
Speaker 2: the cheating vigilante.
Speaker 1: So you think the number one thing here is because
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the same, right if a friend of
Speaker 1: the family had found out and went and told him, Right,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the same kickoff. But is it just
Speaker 1: because the priest is supposed to be sworn to a
Speaker 1: level of secrecy, Because if this was like a friend
Speaker 1: of yours that you told, or a friend of a
Speaker 1: friend or somebody else had gone and said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you your wife's been cheating. It's
Speaker 1: not going to have the same repercussions, is it. Is
Speaker 1: this only coming because of the fact that a priest
Speaker 1: swears to secrecy, So you feel because either way, trust
Speaker 1: is broken, right Well?
Speaker 2: I think the thing is though, when you so, if
Speaker 2: you've cheated on someone and you speak to your friend
Speaker 2: about it, they are not sworn to secrecy. You're giving
Speaker 2: them information and you might ask them not to tell anyone.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of us have been in
Speaker 2: this situation. You're not around cheating. But in other areas,
Speaker 2: if you tell someone a secret and you say, oh,
Speaker 2: don't tell anyone, and they say, don't worry, I'll never
Speaker 2: ever tell anyone, they can really do whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: they want you with that information. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: trust that goes on there, right Like some people might
Speaker 2: tell one person, some people might take it to the grave.
Speaker 2: But I honestly think the majority of secrets that are told,
Speaker 2: you might as well assume that they've told one person,
Speaker 2: because that's kind of how these things. No one in
Speaker 2: the world keeps a secret, not in the way that
Speaker 2: you would hope them to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think maybe reflect on your own behavior.
Speaker 2: When someone tells you a secret, do you keep it
Speaker 2: one hundred percent to yourself or do you tell your
Speaker 2: boyfriend or your girlfriend or your best friend? Like are
Speaker 2: the other people in your immediate network? Who you go, Oh,
Speaker 2: I am keeping the secret? But I told that one person.
Speaker 1: Because there's always that like, Okay, I've got to tell
Speaker 1: you something, but you promise you can't tell anyone, and
Speaker 1: they always that yeah.
Speaker 3: And I guess it depends, you know.
Speaker 2: I know that there will be people who are like, no,
Speaker 2: there's things that I've been told that I've kept from
Speaker 2: my husband or from my wife or whatever, or my
Speaker 2: long term partner. But I think overarchingly and the majority,
Speaker 2: and maybe it's a this is actually a good thing
Speaker 2: to poll. I think majority of people would share other
Speaker 2: people's secrets. And often the reason for that is because
Speaker 2: they are told something and then they're asked to keep
Speaker 2: it a secret, and it waits all them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Most people, it's like they tell a story or they
Speaker 2: tell something that's happened, and then they go, oh, please
Speaker 2: don't tell anyone, and it's like, of course, I will
Speaker 2: keep your story and your secret because it is yours
Speaker 2: and it's not mine. But at the same time, you
Speaker 2: have now put that burden on me. You've put the
Speaker 2: burden of secrecy on me without me subscribing to it.
Speaker 2: The difference here is that a priest, the burden of
Speaker 2: secrecy has been assigned to him. He has taken that
Speaker 2: commitment by becoming a priest. So him sitting in that
Speaker 2: box and you going to him for a confession, there
Speaker 2: is a contract that's already been drawn up, which is
Speaker 2: that this is a place where I can tell you
Speaker 2: my deepest, darkest sins and you are not going to
Speaker 2: share them with anyone. There is a level of protection
Speaker 2: and lack of judgment that's supposed to.
Speaker 3: Say trust no one.
Speaker 1: I got pretty deep in this because I'm so fascinated
Speaker 1: because I didn't grow up in the church, so this
Speaker 1: is all new to me, and I did a bit
Speaker 1: of research.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Happened to this priest, but generally speaking, you can be
Speaker 1: excommunicated as a priest, you get kicked out of the church.
Speaker 1: You cannot tell a secret. But more so than that,
Speaker 1: which this absolutely gob smacked me a priest, because they've
Speaker 1: made this contract with God and with the church from
Speaker 1: what I read, can't even if they get information on
Speaker 1: a crime, whether it's a crime that's been committed or
Speaker 1: a crime that's going to be committed, whether that could
Speaker 1: stop somebody being hurt severely, the priest cannot tell. They
Speaker 1: also cannot give evidence in court, So if they found
Speaker 1: out something on you, something, they're not allowed to do it.
Speaker 1: Now people might disagree, but I think that is crazy.
Speaker 1: But there is an exception to that, like you don't
Speaker 1: have to report murder, be a priest does have to
Speaker 1: report anything to do with children, like child abuse and
Speaker 1: things like that, which which I was about to say,
Speaker 1: thank God, but I can't say that in this sense.
Speaker 1: I was really fascinated by the workings of the contract
Speaker 1: between a priest and the church and the God.
Speaker 3: I was fascinated by it.
Speaker 2: Which also makes you a question like, is this the
Speaker 2: most scandalous thing this priest has ever heard that someone
Speaker 2: within his network has cheated or their husband. Surely surely not,
Speaker 2: like he's not getting any sort of tip off some murders,
Speaker 2: is he?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: But also she can't sue, she's not that sue. I
Speaker 3: checked that as well. Why who fucking knows he can't
Speaker 3: report murder? She can't sue him. It's just.
Speaker 1: Why is the most commonly asked question generally left unanswered.
Speaker 2: I wonder I think that there's also a bigger conversation
Speaker 2: here around like, if you're someone who's cheated on your
Speaker 2: husband or your partner and it's a once off and
Speaker 2: you never ever ever plan on doing it again, and
Speaker 2: you have made peace with yourself and you know that
Speaker 2: you're never going to do it again, is it always
Speaker 2: the right thing to tell them?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I actually again, I feel like I'm opening myself up
Speaker 1: for some heat this week. I think there are some
Speaker 1: situations where it's probably okay. I think if you were
Speaker 1: in a rocky place, you made one mistake one night
Speaker 1: which you deeply regret, and you're working towards fixing that, and.
Speaker 3: You know you have a family and whatever else, I
Speaker 3: think there are.
Speaker 1: Certain times that it might be okay to not say
Speaker 1: that and get on with life.
Speaker 3: I do, But I know that's also controversial.
Speaker 2: Man, It's so hard because, like, you know, I know
Speaker 2: that from someone Like My initial response to this is
Speaker 2: like I would want to know, right, I want to know.
Speaker 2: I don't want that to be secrets. I don't want
Speaker 2: someone to make a decision for me, and I don't
Speaker 2: want to be in a relationship where there has been
Speaker 2: secrecy and I haven't had.
Speaker 3: The opportunity to make my own decision.
Speaker 2: But then I've spoken to Mad about this in the past,
Speaker 2: and Matt has said directly, if you cheated on me,
Speaker 2: if you were out drunk and you cheated on me
Speaker 2: and you never were going to do it again and
Speaker 2: it meant nothing and you regretted it, he was like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to know, because I don't want you
Speaker 2: to offload your guilt, your feelings of betrayal and then
Speaker 2: ruin my views of our relationship because of something that
Speaker 2: you regret. It's one of those things, right, It's it's
Speaker 2: so complex and so complicated and so individual to the
Speaker 2: relationship that you're in and the old Brittany.
Speaker 3: I feel like I have changed.
Speaker 1: Actually, it's so nice to reflect sometimes even from the
Speaker 1: four years from when the podcast started.
Speaker 3: It's changed your perspective.
Speaker 1: My perspective has changed on so many things. The old
Speaker 1: me would have been like, you fucking cheat on me
Speaker 1: once you're out the door, because I was cheated on
Speaker 1: so many times. And the old me would have said,
Speaker 1: if you've cheated on me, i'd want to know. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily feel like that now, And I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of if Ben exactly what you just said, Laura,
Speaker 1: with like you and Matt reverse, if Ben went out
Speaker 1: one night, which I know he would never do, but
Speaker 1: he made one big mistake and then pleasing me th
Speaker 1: reast of my life and being a great husband, gone
Speaker 1: down to me every day, riding me into the sunset.
Speaker 1: If I could sit on his face. But if he
Speaker 1: was so sorry, I wouldn't want him to tell me
Speaker 1: because once that's there and that information is in the relationship,
Speaker 1: whether you want it to.
Speaker 3: Or not, it changes thing. So it does.
Speaker 1: It's always going to be in the forefront, in the backfront,
Speaker 1: in your subconscious, in you like.
Speaker 3: It just changes things.
Speaker 1: So I definitely do now think that there are times
Speaker 1: and situations that you know, sometimes better to keep to yourself.
Speaker 2: And you know what, everybody is going to show up
Speaker 2: to this differently. Everyone's going to have a different opinion.
Speaker 2: If you disagree with this, that's okay, Like we are
Speaker 2: not saying this and thinking like that everyone is going
Speaker 2: to agree with us, because I think it is a
Speaker 2: bit of a controversial opinion on cheek and cheating is
Speaker 2: so not black and white.
Speaker 3: We all know that.
Speaker 2: But I do think that sometimes there is this almost
Speaker 2: like like I said, passing of the guilt, passing of
Speaker 2: the responsibility. I feel so guilty for what I've done
Speaker 2: that you need to know because it makes me feel better.
Speaker 2: But all I'm doing is making you feel shit in
Speaker 2: the process as well, So I wonder if that plays
Speaker 2: a part in it. But like I said, I don't
Speaker 2: have there's no rule, there's no right and wrong.
Speaker 3: What would it be if you reversed your situation? So
Speaker 3: you said if you cheated, Matt wouldn't want to know
Speaker 3: what if he had done it once?
Speaker 2: So if he had done it once, I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to know. But if there was ever the opportunity that
Speaker 2: I might find out, I would want to know. Because
Speaker 2: the problem is is that if you find out in
Speaker 2: a way, for example, like this instance, finding out from
Speaker 2: the priest, if you find out from a way that
Speaker 2: feels more disrespectful, then I think that that is where
Speaker 2: it becomes just like just an absolute battlefield that you're
Speaker 2: never ever going to win. So so true, Yeah, hang on, okay,
Speaker 2: second question, more hypotheticals, Part two.
Speaker 3: You just said that you like repented when you were seven.
Speaker 3: What did you repent at seven?
Speaker 2: Okay, so my I have a very interest. I would say, no,
Speaker 2: it's not an interesting relationship with the church.
Speaker 3: It's not interesting at all.
Speaker 2: It's a very stop standard relationship with the church. Where
Speaker 2: I was brought up Catholic, we did everything, we did reconciliation, communion, confirmation,
Speaker 2: and you're six. I went to Catholic schools. My dad
Speaker 2: is Irish Catholic, and he was really set on us
Speaker 2: being brought up in the church.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually didn't really know that. I knew that
Speaker 3: you like popped your hand in every now and again,
Speaker 3: but I didn't know you were like.
Speaker 2: No, we were like yeah, so we were really brought
Speaker 2: up within the church. So when I was I don't know,
Speaker 2: kind of remember like in you no, it's not even
Speaker 2: your six, it's like you three or something.
Speaker 3: You do you're like eight years old?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were okay when you were like in primary school,
Speaker 2: like the in the first couple of years you do reconciliation.
Speaker 2: You have to learn this whole thing, and you go
Speaker 2: up and you say the prayer and then there's a ceremony.
Speaker 3: Anyway you do reconciliation.
Speaker 2: Then you've got to go every Sunday and you repent
Speaker 2: your sins right.
Speaker 3: In the priest box, and you sit in the priest box.
Speaker 2: And you're painting your sins to the priest who's hit
Speaker 2: hideing behind the curtain. So the thing is is like,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't think I was. I
Speaker 2: was always in trouble, but I don't think I was
Speaker 2: a particularly naughty kid, right. I felt like, well, what
Speaker 2: do you have to repent for? Like what's the things
Speaker 2: that I'm supposed to say that I did? So I
Speaker 2: always felt like I didn't have something to apologize that
Speaker 2: was big enough, that was worthy of apologizing for, you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm sure I was mean to my sister whatever, like
Speaker 2: you know those sorts of things like every kid. But
Speaker 2: I didn't have like I thought I needed to go
Speaker 2: to the priest with a specific thing every week, So
Speaker 2: like I stole something or I did.
Speaker 3: So I would lie to the priest.
Speaker 2: I would make up stories and I'd be like, oh, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I need to say that I'm sorry because
Speaker 2: I stole lollies from the corner store.
Speaker 3: Never did it, Oh, never did it.
Speaker 2: So I made up crimes, So every week I would
Speaker 2: lie to the priest about what I'd done to then
Speaker 2: have to say our fathers and Hail Mary's and everything.
Speaker 3: Do you think he knew? No? I think he thinks
Speaker 3: I was a fucking really naughty kid.
Speaker 1: Did you ever did you talk amongst yourselves as kids
Speaker 1: about this kind of thing?
Speaker 3: Like do you talk to each other about what you
Speaker 3: repented or that you lie?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Does anyone ever know? Why have you taken that to
Speaker 3: the grave?
Speaker 2: I ended up talking to my sister about it as
Speaker 2: like as an adult, and she thought it was funny
Speaker 2: because she also did the same thing. But her lives
Speaker 2: would be things like I stole my sister's hair brush
Speaker 2: and didn't give it back, or I'm so sorry that
Speaker 2: I didn't make my bed this morning because my sister
Speaker 2: was so well behaved, and there I was like doing
Speaker 2: Petty Cris.
Speaker 3: Corner store. That weren't true. How do you ever steal
Speaker 3: something as a kid? Never I did the lie.
Speaker 2: I stole some stickers from Missus Gillis and she caught me.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I did as a kid? We
Speaker 1: were really healthy, a really healthy family. We weren't off
Speaker 1: in allowed treats unless it was like we're on holiday
Speaker 1: or as a special event or a birthday or whatever,
Speaker 1: and one of my friends was allowed any jung food
Speaker 1: she wanted, and she always had that hubber bubba, you know,
Speaker 1: the bubble gum that came in to meat along you
Speaker 1: could pull it out. She always had that, and we
Speaker 1: were never allowed to have it. Firstly, it was sugar
Speaker 1: and shit. Secondly it was a choking hazard, apparently, my
Speaker 1: mum said. And then like we'd always swallow it. And
Speaker 1: you know the old myth that it gets stuck in
Speaker 1: your body for like twenty five years, probably still in
Speaker 1: there now, so I remember, I'm not twenty five anymore.
Speaker 3: But sorry, thirty six. I really wanted his hub bubba.
Speaker 1: And I remember we were at like a Target store
Speaker 1: and mom was going through the checkout and they always
Speaker 1: have the lallies at the checkout, and I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck it, now's my time. So I took a hub
Speaker 1: Bubba put in my pocket, and we almost liked the
Speaker 1: shopping center, and I couldn't wait. I was so excited
Speaker 1: that I couldn't even wait to get home to try
Speaker 1: the thing that I stole.
Speaker 3: So I pulled my mouth and put my mout mom goes,
Speaker 3: what are you chewing? And I was like nothing. She goes,
Speaker 3: spit it out. So I spat it out and it
Speaker 3: was huba babba. She goes, where'd you go that from?
Speaker 3: And I had to tell her that I stole it.
Speaker 1: She walked me back inside in front of everyone, back
Speaker 1: to the lady, back to the counter, and I had
Speaker 1: to tell everyone that I stole it. I was so
Speaker 1: embarrassed and I had to give it back and we
Speaker 1: had to pay for it. And I'm never but you
Speaker 1: know what, good on your mum, because I've never been
Speaker 1: more embarrassed. But I never stole again because I was like,
Speaker 1: I never want to feel this. I had tell everyone, goes,
Speaker 1: tell everyone what you did.
Speaker 3: I was like, I stole it. I'm humiliated for you.
Speaker 3: That was a kid. Moms like you can't, you cannot steal.
Speaker 2: That's like really good parenting. It was good parent I
Speaker 2: would do the same. I would humiliate my children to
Speaker 2: prove a point.
Speaker 1: But she is like, if you know you're old enough
Speaker 1: to steal it, you're old enough to apologize and give back.
Speaker 1: And I was like, fucking fair court. I didn't say
Speaker 1: fair court, a fair court hour.
Speaker 2: Well, there's something else I wanted to talk to you
Speaker 2: about have you seen any of the series Selling the OC.
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna say, because I've seen this
Speaker 1: conversation going around hit me.
Speaker 2: Okay, so selling the OC now. Look, I'm not watching it.
Speaker 2: But the reason why I want to talk about this
Speaker 2: is because the TV series has made its way into
Speaker 2: our Facebook group. There was a little discussion on the
Speaker 2: page about season two.
Speaker 3: There is a character.
Speaker 2: His name is Austin, and he is married to a
Speaker 2: woman named Lisa. They have two daughters, twins. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they have a little beautiful family.
Speaker 1: And selling the OC, so you know, is like another
Speaker 1: version of like selling Sunset.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a reality show. Now.
Speaker 2: Look, Austin, he was speaking to one of his friends,
Speaker 2: and this is a theme that's come up a couple
Speaker 2: of times in the most recent episodes. He was speaking
Speaker 2: to one of his friends about how his wife is
Speaker 2: a bit baby crazy at the moment, how she's got
Speaker 2: baby fever. She wants them to have another kid. He's
Speaker 2: not ready to have another kid after having their twins. Financially,
Speaker 2: he doesn't feel ready, emotionally, mentally, whatever other reasons, he
Speaker 2: doesn't feel ready. And what he has said that his
Speaker 2: wife is doing is that she is baby trapping him.
Speaker 2: So basically, when they're having sex, she is putting her
Speaker 2: legs around him and making him come inside her.
Speaker 3: Well, she called it a leg he called it a
Speaker 3: leg lock. Okay, I have listened to this. I love
Speaker 3: my life, I love my kids and wife, and she's
Speaker 3: got baby fever right now. So she's then taking her
Speaker 3: legs and leg locking me.
Speaker 1: Really mean, she works out legs all the time.
Speaker 3: And then he's just like she just jiu jitsues you
Speaker 3: and your pregnant. Yeah, that's exactly what does. It's a
Speaker 3: jiu jitsu leg lock, sexual hype pig. That sounds fine,
Speaker 3: now it's fuck that now.
Speaker 2: There was quite the debate in the Facebook group about
Speaker 2: this as to who was in the wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, should she'd be able to jiu jitsu him into
Speaker 1: having a baby and the.
Speaker 2: Question and yeah, And I think it was really interesting
Speaker 2: in the Facebook group because it was really interesting to
Speaker 2: see how divisive everyone is and how people's opinions sat
Speaker 2: on either side. I really wanted to get your opinion
Speaker 2: on this, brit and what you think and who do
Speaker 2: you think is in the wrong? In this conversation around
Speaker 2: one about consent and two about this idea of baby trapping.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and my opinion has changed and it's gone back
Speaker 1: and forth. My immediate opinion like without thought, right, you know,
Speaker 1: when you read something or you hear something, My immediate
Speaker 1: thought was, that's fucked, Like, you can't do that. You
Speaker 1: can't wrap your legs around and trap them in at
Speaker 1: the crucial moment so they can't pull out and make
Speaker 1: him come inside you like at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: that is not consensual. If he was planning on pulling out,
Speaker 1: it's really fucked. Yeah, But then I thought, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: still fucked. But it takes two to tango. If you
Speaker 1: don't want a kid, why an't you wearing a condom?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is my question. Consent can change it any time.
Speaker 3: You all know that.
Speaker 1: And consense still matters. Doesn't matter if you've be married
Speaker 1: for twenty five years, consense still matters.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel exactly like you do in terms of like
Speaker 2: my opinion flip flopped when I very first heard it.
Speaker 2: I feel like I have complex feelings around it because
Speaker 2: at the same time, I think that there is so
Speaker 2: much responsibility on women to completely take ownership of fertility,
Speaker 2: like men don't have to do anything. We have to
Speaker 2: do the contraception, We have to do the ovulation planning,
Speaker 2: we have to do the baby brearing and growing and
Speaker 2: everything else. Like, the responsibility of that completely falls on us.
Speaker 2: And so if you're having consensual sex, whether it's in
Speaker 2: a relationship or not in a relationship, as a man,
Speaker 2: if you don't want children, then I think you need
Speaker 2: to take some responsibility for the contraception in that as well. Now,
Speaker 2: the flip side of this is it's interesting how when
Speaker 2: it's reversed, we are talking about it as though it's
Speaker 2: funny on a TV show, Like it was done in
Speaker 2: a very lighthearted way on this series.
Speaker 1: The way they converse about it, I was like, this
Speaker 1: can't really be a problem for you. It was such
Speaker 1: a throwaway comment and I was sort of giggling with
Speaker 1: each other. I was like, I don't understand why you're
Speaker 1: delivering it like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it seemed like he was taking it seriously.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, if this conversation was reversed
Speaker 2: and the genders were reversed, we would see this incredibly differently,
Speaker 2: Like it wouldn't be grey, it would be very black
Speaker 2: and white. If the story was that a man was
Speaker 2: pinning a woman down there having consensual sex and then
Speaker 2: he wanted to come in her because he wanted to
Speaker 2: get her pregnant. And I think that that's an important
Speaker 2: point to make around how one version of this story
Speaker 2: is black and white and one version is gray. But
Speaker 2: I hate the term baby trapping because I think it
Speaker 2: paints women as being manipulative. It paints women as being
Speaker 2: someone who's deceptive, who's trying to do anything to get
Speaker 2: what they want. But at the same time, I really
Speaker 2: do think that men have to take some responsibility for
Speaker 2: their fertility and if they are in a situation where
Speaker 2: they feel as though they don't have control because the
Speaker 2: woman has the upper hand in it. Where are condom,
Speaker 2: it's very very clear cut, and then you won't have
Speaker 2: to have this around pulling out or not pulling out,
Speaker 2: because we all know that it's not you can't. You
Speaker 2: don't just get pregnant from the final ejaculation. You can
Speaker 2: get pregnant from pre com you can get pregnant. The
Speaker 2: pull out method is no, not one hundred percent, and
Speaker 2: so I think that that puts way more emphasis on,
Speaker 2: like the woman being the.
Speaker 3: Bad person in this situation. It's also so important to
Speaker 3: have both sides of the story right. So his wife
Speaker 3: did also respond, I think in the past few weeks,
Speaker 3: I've decided that I don't want you my children. Well,
Speaker 3: I've decided in the past few weeks that I do.
Speaker 3: So I know you leaklocked me and they'll keep doing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it's irrelevant whether they're joking or not.
Speaker 1: It's brought up a bigger issue that a lot of
Speaker 1: people are talking about, and I think it's a really
Speaker 1: important issue to talk about, which is the change of
Speaker 1: consent at any moment in any type of relationship. So,
Speaker 1: whether they mental or not, they've started a very important
Speaker 1: conversation off the back of it.
Speaker 3: But they're both responsible.
Speaker 1: In this situation, and I feel like they're both in
Speaker 1: the wrong. Maybe not necessarily. The onus is in fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty, but they both can He can take some responsibility.
Speaker 1: He also has to have a conversation with her and
Speaker 1: say you cannot do that anymore. So the consent is
Speaker 1: clear and she needs to respect that because exactly what
Speaker 1: you said, Laura, it's a great if this role was reversed,
Speaker 1: these conversations would be a lot more serious.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'd be throwing around sexual assault allegations beyond
Speaker 2: you know, it would be such a different discourse that
Speaker 2: we would be having. I think that this is a
Speaker 2: topic that's going to have some pretty polarizing opinions on it,
Speaker 2: and it did definitely in the Facebook thread there was
Speaker 2: some fore and against. But I would love to know
Speaker 2: how people feel and where people sit on this, and
Speaker 2: whether this is something that you think lies more with
Speaker 2: the female, or whether it's lies more with the male
Speaker 2: in this instance, or whether it's something that mutually they
Speaker 2: have full responsibility for and that sits somewhere fifty to fifty.
Speaker 2: I would love to know if you're listening to this, like,
Speaker 2: please tell us what you think of it, because usually
Speaker 2: we come up with an end result where we feel
Speaker 2: pretty solid, But in this instance, I think it's like
Speaker 2: both people and both parties are at fault here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm just thinking back over the years. It
Speaker 1: actually makes me really really angry. The narrative of when
Speaker 1: a guy says, yeah, but she fucking went and got
Speaker 1: pregnant to trap him. She didn't go and get pregnant,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, yeah, okay, she did get pregnant, but
Speaker 1: how did she get pregnant with his sperm?
Speaker 3: Totally? And of course there are.
Speaker 1: Some women out there that purposely try and get pregnant
Speaker 1: for whatever isn't I mean, we remember the Drake Hot
Speaker 1: Sauce saga.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that Drake Hot Sauce saga?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like there are of course, there are going to
Speaker 1: be women in the world, but this general idea of
Speaker 1: and it usually happens in younger relationships or relationships that
Speaker 1: are quite new. This is when I have heard people
Speaker 1: this sort of a commentary, and it's when I don't
Speaker 1: like it. It's when maybe someone stated for six months,
Speaker 1: she gets pregnant, and people are like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: she got pregnant just to lock him down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even I think the issue with the whole
Speaker 2: Drake Sauce saga, which I mean Treke Sauce Okay, the
Speaker 2: issue with that is that is the minority, and then
Speaker 2: it's used as a conversation to paint women as the majority.
Speaker 3: That's the problem, right.
Speaker 2: These things are few and far between, but they are
Speaker 2: used and they are weaponized, and I think that that
Speaker 2: is very misleading. It is time for our favorite part
Speaker 2: of every episode, and I should just say Tuesday episodes
Speaker 2: now and that is accidentally unfiltered. All right, I'm going
Speaker 2: to kick it off. I've done the most embarrassing thing
Speaker 2: when drunk on a hens. So the night was going
Speaker 2: as planned. We ended our night at the male strip
Speaker 2: show one. I was very excited about. All the bridesmaids
Speaker 2: got caught on stage for a special show. My task
Speaker 2: was to get into my favorite sex position. So here
Speaker 2: I am in a mini dress with my bum hanging
Speaker 2: out in doggie, with the male stripper pulling my hair
Speaker 2: making my best orgasm sounds.
Speaker 3: Your girl really put on a show.
Speaker 2: The girls have filmed it, and in my drunken state,
Speaker 2: I thought it would be a great idea to send
Speaker 2: it to my fun auntie.
Speaker 3: That's never a good idea.
Speaker 2: I lookt everyone has an auntie that you could send
Speaker 2: this to. Actually I don't. My auntie would not appreciate this,
Speaker 2: but some people do, all right, the fun auntie. I
Speaker 2: wake up in the morning with the scaries, you know,
Speaker 2: the hangover scaries that you feel when you're like, fuck,
Speaker 2: what have I done last night? And I checked my phone.
Speaker 2: Turns out I didn't send it to my auntie. I
Speaker 2: sent it to my uncle. That's the message had been
Speaker 2: read and he never replied.
Speaker 3: What are you going to reply to that?
Speaker 1: Look having a fun note sweet like no, that's always
Speaker 1: where you control alt delete and pretended dinner You don't?
Speaker 3: You just completely.
Speaker 2: I wish you could control alt delete your life like
Speaker 2: every soft And when I do something wrong, I'm like
Speaker 2: I troll.
Speaker 3: Drinking, do not disturb, get your phone off, don't.
Speaker 1: It's never ever a good idea like never good I
Speaker 1: do okay many means Ago. I was flying to New
Speaker 1: York after a sweet sweet week in Cancoon. I can
Speaker 1: confirm I wasn't the healthiest way when hopping on that flight.
Speaker 1: Zero sleep and very hungover.
Speaker 2: I'm sure something else as well about Yeah.
Speaker 1: About four hours into the flight, I had to use
Speaker 1: the restroom as I was feeling sick. Luckily for me,
Speaker 1: I was able to use one of the paper thin
Speaker 1: vomit bags to catch the spew whilst.
Speaker 3: I was on the toilet pants down. This was a
Speaker 3: lot of vomit.
Speaker 1: However, the bag breaks and the vomit spills out and
Speaker 1: landing my unties. I attempt to shovel the spew from
Speaker 1: my undies into the sink slash bin slash toilet slash
Speaker 1: all of the above. I quickly realized it's not working
Speaker 1: and proceed to rip my un he's off into the
Speaker 1: bin as I was wearying just leggings but the cube
Speaker 1: because was too tiny to attempt to move around in anyway.
Speaker 1: Success undiser off and I've bidden them. Moments later, after
Speaker 1: I returned to my seat, they made an announcement that
Speaker 1: they had to shut the toilet and advise passengers to
Speaker 1: only use the toilet up the front. I single handedly
Speaker 1: shut down the toilet.
Speaker 3: What ify? Do you know what I actually said? Me
Speaker 3: sort of did that.
Speaker 2: Nothing like the person who had gastrow on that flight
Speaker 2: that had to be redirecting.
Speaker 3: No, this rings like this hit home for me because
Speaker 3: when I was in New York.
Speaker 1: Remember I've always told you guys that story about I
Speaker 1: went overseas with my boyfriend of a couple of months.
Speaker 3: We broke up like one week into the six week trip, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: the first the farta.
Speaker 1: The first thing I did when we broke up was
Speaker 1: I went to New York and I did what anyone did,
Speaker 1: and I was like, fuck this, I'm going to go
Speaker 1: out on my own basically and get liddy.
Speaker 3: I'm not a big partier.
Speaker 1: So I I messaged one person that I knew from
Speaker 1: years ago that I knew was in New York. It
Speaker 1: was a doctor I had worked with like eight years ago,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you're the only person I know
Speaker 1: this is my situation. He's like, oh, oh my god, yes,
Speaker 1: I'll take you out, like, let's have fun. So we
Speaker 1: went out drinking all night shots. I don't do shots,
Speaker 1: and then you know those she shot like this, yes,
Speaker 1: why So I started to do with those, and I
Speaker 1: didn't know you shouldn't do those.
Speaker 3: I've never done them. I started smoking those and I
Speaker 3: did that whilst I was drinking. Anyway, my flight was
Speaker 3: six am. The next morning.
Speaker 1: I got home at like four am, vomiting everywhere I get.
Speaker 1: I almost missed my plane. I get to New York
Speaker 1: Airport and vomit on the floor of the airport and
Speaker 1: the vomit was like purple.
Speaker 3: Because of the she sha color, so my I was projected.
Speaker 3: I can't believe I let me on the plane.
Speaker 1: I was vomiting everywhere and it was like it was disgusting,
Speaker 1: and got onto the plane, vomited all over the toilet,
Speaker 1: the bathroom floor had to scoop it. Up off the
Speaker 1: toilet floor of the plane, but they didn't close the plane.
Speaker 3: But that like this for me, that was my worst
Speaker 3: travel moment in history. So I really feel for this girl.
Speaker 2: I once caught vomiting my own hands on a Country
Speaker 2: Link train heading to Wollongong and then had to drop
Speaker 2: on the floor because I didn't really think through what
Speaker 2: I was doing and.
Speaker 3: How did you drop it on the floor. I was like,
Speaker 3: where am I going to take this? There was so
Speaker 3: much of it had overflowed already.
Speaker 1: I just went straight into my hands and I was like,
Speaker 1: didn't think you got the toilet?
Speaker 3: I don't. It just came out of nowhere. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was that was me in New York. See me sometimes
Speaker 3: when it comes, it comes. It was after a Kings
Speaker 3: of Leon concert. Is that what they're called anyway? I
Speaker 3: was at that concept. Oh so bad.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well look guys, like we said, we
Speaker 2: are doing things differently this week. We have my interview tomorrow,
Speaker 2: so you are getting not extra because it's the same
Speaker 2: amount of content, but you just get in an extra
Speaker 2: EP in your inbox this week, which I'm so excited
Speaker 2: about tomorrow's episode.
Speaker 3: We are speaking about narcissism.
Speaker 2: We're doing a massive deep dive into We're going to
Speaker 2: do this as a two part are. Actually tomorrow's one
Speaker 2: is more around narcissism and dating, what it's like if
Speaker 2: you're dating someone who's narcissistic, how you can spot that,
Speaker 2: how you recover from dating a narcissist.
Speaker 3: And then the part two.
Speaker 2: Of this series that we're going to do is going
Speaker 2: to be all around into family narcissism. So, for example,
Speaker 2: if you have a parent who is a narcissist, if
Speaker 2: you've grown up in that type of household, how you
Speaker 2: can deal with conflict within family members, or if you're
Speaker 2: co parenting with a narcissist when it's a situation.
Speaker 1: Where you can't get away from them. Yeah, we're speaking
Speaker 1: to a woman called Nova Gibson, who we absolutely love.
Speaker 1: She's the author of Fake Love and she's also has
Speaker 1: childrenone's a counseling service. Fake Love is understanding and healing
Speaker 1: from narcissistic abuse. So Nova is definitely the woman to
Speaker 1: speak to you on this topic. And unashamedly, Laura and
Speaker 1: I are like pretty obsessed with the topic of narcissism.
Speaker 1: I think because we've got a level of lived experience,
Speaker 1: but I just find it so fascinating. I think even
Speaker 1: if I didn't have a lived experience the topic of narcissism,
Speaker 1: everyone knows someone in their life in some capacity, whether
Speaker 1: it's just a work colleague. I feel like everyone is
Speaker 1: going to come across a narcissist in their life, and
Speaker 1: this is a really great tool set to have to
Speaker 1: go into these relationships so you know how to handle them.
Speaker 3: So it's a really great episode.
Speaker 1: I can't wait you listen to it, and then I
Speaker 1: can't wait to do the second episode on the family Narcissism.
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