WEBVTT - Repenting Sins, Leg Locking and Baby Traps

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is recorded on Gadigal Land of the Aurora Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 1>of Kinna.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your host, Brittany. I'm your host, Laura. We have

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<v Speaker 3>lost the plot today. Do you know why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because things are not as they should be. Things are

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<v Speaker 2>not as they seem.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a public holiday in New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 2>We should have the day off. No, we usually record

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<v Speaker 2>out of the studio. Things feel a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>I guess professional. Now when we record were recalled out

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<v Speaker 2>of the studio, I feel like I am someone who

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<v Speaker 2>has my shit together. I don't even have one of

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<v Speaker 2>my earphones in. I was wondering why it felt very

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<v Speaker 2>one sided.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we usually recording a studio. As you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a public holiday here in New South Wales,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're recording from my house, which how do you

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<v Speaker 1>think it smells?

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<v Speaker 3>Laura?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just do one thing? I forgot to start

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<v Speaker 2>my video. That's how unprofessional I am right now, that's

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<v Speaker 2>my sink clap. I think it smells. I walked in here,

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<v Speaker 2>into your house, brit and I was like, wow, it

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<v Speaker 2>smells good. Don't get me wrong, it smells.

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<v Speaker 3>I went two am on the incense sticks.

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<v Speaker 2>It smells like a Balinese spa that's trying to hide something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like Barley in general, like smells like it

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<v Speaker 2>smells nice, but also.

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<v Speaker 3>You know there's an undercurrent. Yeah. My house isn't that big,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think I went too strong. I did three.

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<v Speaker 1>Simultaneous incense sticks because I wanted to make it nice

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys. All the three sticks are in the

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<v Speaker 1>one room because the room's not that big, so I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to do some aerration. Anyway, we're recording from home today.

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<v Speaker 1>The NRL Grand Final was on last night for both

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<v Speaker 1>the women and the men. If anybody cares, and I

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<v Speaker 1>say that because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was literally just about to say which is a shame,

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<v Speaker 2>because I know I know how important it is. Matt

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<v Speaker 2>was out all night last night, like produce a Keisha was.

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<v Speaker 3>Out all day yesterday, like everybody know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a public holiday because of the Grand I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sure that that's why this exists. Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it a public holiday? For the Grand Final.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure. I don't think that's a thing. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's a public holiday and they put the Grand Final

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<v Speaker 3>on because of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So in Victoria they had their public holiday on the Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>so it coincides with their Grand Final, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>ours on the Monday, which coincides with ours.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is it that the only reason? Probably not, but

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<v Speaker 3>is it a good reason. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>However, Unfortunately for anybody listening to this who absolutely loves football, Brittain,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know much about it. But look, I'm married

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<v Speaker 2>to someone who was a fanatic. So he was gone

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<v Speaker 2>and he went and watched it, and then he came

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<v Speaker 2>home very late last night and fell asleep on the couch.

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<v Speaker 1>I am gonna put it out there. I've never watched

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<v Speaker 1>a match like a game, Matt, my match?

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<v Speaker 3>A game? What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>He produced a Keisha was sitting in the corner and

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<v Speaker 2>she is just a hating her.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't grow up in that football family. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being at school from primary school. I remember all of

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<v Speaker 1>my friends, specifically, if they're listening, Sheri and Hannah. All

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<v Speaker 1>of my friends were big football families, so all the

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<v Speaker 1>families would go on the weekend to the football that'll

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<v Speaker 1>watch it. They all had their team. My family, not

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<v Speaker 1>one person. We're a family of six.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, one of my brothers will probably hate that, but

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<v Speaker 1>we never watched a match growing up. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the rules. I don't love it. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get the hype. But that's because I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>grow up with it. I know if I went to

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<v Speaker 1>it live, it would be amazing, because there's no live

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<v Speaker 1>sport that isn't amazing. It's the atmosphere, it's the energy

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<v Speaker 1>everyone has, so I know i'd love it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>got asked to go and watch it by so many

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<v Speaker 1>people at the pubs and stuff last night, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, think, I would rather sit in my house alone.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I really would. It's just not for me. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not for me. Well look, and I'm sorry. I know

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<v Speaker 3>so many people probably hate me listening to that, but.

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<v Speaker 2>People like you didn't need to establish how much you

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<v Speaker 2>hated it. I'm not a big football person, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did watch it. Broncos lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you watch it? Devastated? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And so when I was trying to contact you, it

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<v Speaker 2>was just on in the background with my children whilst

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<v Speaker 2>one of them had growing pains and the other one

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<v Speaker 2>spiked fever.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, look that was my night last night. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>I have a question for you, Bretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Moving on from the football that neither of us really

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<v Speaker 2>watched or paid attention to, I went surfing on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone I went down to Woollongong. I went down to

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<v Speaker 2>the farm. It was one of my best friend's birthdays.

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<v Speaker 2>And she decided for her birthday, instead of like going

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<v Speaker 2>and having a Margarita's with the girls, which is normal

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<v Speaker 2>most people want to go and have cocktails with their friends,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, how about we all drive two hours and

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<v Speaker 2>go to the farm and go for a surf lesson.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the time I was like, I will literally

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<v Speaker 2>do anything for you, Kaya, but this is a weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Request, but we all did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you've ever been to the farm, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like about fifteen minutes south of Woollongong, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>guess that most people listening to this habit, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you have, you'll know it's a beach that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>quite remote.

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<v Speaker 3>The beach is really long.

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<v Speaker 2>The toilet's like up the very top huge stairs, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you need to go to the toilet, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>hike to go to the toilet. Ein't no single person

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<v Speaker 2>in going to the toilet. They're going and doing a

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<v Speaker 2>bushwee at the beach, right, Yeah, So if you're surfing

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<v Speaker 2>and you've had to overcome all these obstacles to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the toilet, you've put on a higher wetsuit, Where

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<v Speaker 2>does one do a wee? Where do you do a

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<v Speaker 2>wee if you're wearing somebody else's wetsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm confused by your question because if you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>higher wetsuit, you need to do a wi You don't

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<v Speaker 1>get out to go to the toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>You just wean the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you've worn your wet suit to the toilet

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<v Speaker 1>and then pissed in the toilet, your cook's waara, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I thought when you originally played this question, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Just in the water in the west. Yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is is anybody is anybody who's in

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean wearing a wetsuit getting out to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the toilet, or is every single person just pissing in

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean? And if that's the case, then does that

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<v Speaker 2>mean that we're all sharing higher wetsuits that literally every

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<v Speaker 2>single person is weeding.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I'm gonna tell you guys something Brittany did

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<v Speaker 3>a shit in a wet suite. No, I have not,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely I've told this on the podcast at some point

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<v Speaker 1>in our life, but I don't actually remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Laugh all you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the Australian champion for women's bodyboarding, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the late own surfing. I was the best in the country.

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<v Speaker 1>I was twentieth in the entire world. It was what

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<v Speaker 1>I always did. I was like when did big wave

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<v Speaker 1>surfing nearly drowned in Mexico at the Australian title. We

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<v Speaker 1>had to get out because it was a great white

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<v Speaker 1>shark in Tasmania in our heat.

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<v Speaker 3>It was I've had some wild experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love when you tell these stories because like

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<v Speaker 2>it's such a closet flex of yours, Like no one

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<v Speaker 2>knows this right that this is like it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>random thing I used to do. And then all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, BRIT's like I used to buddy board. I

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a pretty big deal. Yeah, pretty funny, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was it. I was the best in the country. So

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<v Speaker 1>like I just never talked about. It was like a

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<v Speaker 1>whole nother life ago. Anyway, my point of that story

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<v Speaker 1>is I grew up in wetsuits. Like I've always surfed

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<v Speaker 1>all day every day. You always wear a wetsuit, you always.

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<v Speaker 3>I am telling you.

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<v Speaker 1>If anyone says they get out of the water to

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<v Speaker 1>go and do a wheat, they're lying. Everyone we's in

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean in their wetsuits. So if you have ever

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<v Speaker 1>gone anywhere and you're doing like a small tour or something,

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<v Speaker 1>you're putting on a rented wetsuit, someone else's weed in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that's what I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there with like six girlfriends, six girlfriends, two instructors.

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<v Speaker 2>Not one person got out of the water for a

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<v Speaker 2>two hour lesson to go to the toilet.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, yeah, I'll pisson. We all doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>No one's talking about it, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we sterile, so it's not that bad. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like people, I think people get really have this really

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<v Speaker 1>bigger version to wei.

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<v Speaker 3>But we's not bad. Do I want to bathe around

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<v Speaker 3>in somebody else's use wetsuit in it?

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<v Speaker 1>No? But anyway, you know people do poops in the

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<v Speaker 1>ocean to stop. Yeah, it's called an aquaturt.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but no one's doing inside their wetsuit. No,

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<v Speaker 3>but they won't get out of the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Surfers that if the surf is good and you have

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<v Speaker 1>been out in the water for ages.

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<v Speaker 3>A surfer will paddle off a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>They would rather take their wet suit off and do

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<v Speaker 1>what they call an aquaturd and then put their wet

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<v Speaker 1>seed back on, then get out and miss the surf.

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<v Speaker 1>People might deny that, but I'm telling you one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent that's what people doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, everyone, we are doing things a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>differently this month, and we are very excited about this now.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know, if you've been listening to podcasts for

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<v Speaker 2>quite a long time, our Tuesday episodes are our long episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>So we do like our chitty little chitty chat about

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<v Speaker 2>pissing and about whatever in wetsuits at the start, and

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<v Speaker 2>then we usually do an interview or we get into

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<v Speaker 2>like a deeper, more complex topic and more nuanced chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Intros of these episodes we will hit an important topic

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like they're always just lighthearted chatter.

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<v Speaker 2>But what we've decided to do is because those Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>episodes actually usually run for like an hour and a

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<v Speaker 2>half to an hour and forty minutes and hour and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty They kind of vary. We are going to this

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<v Speaker 2>month trial something new, and what that is is we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring you our Tuesday episode, which will be

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<v Speaker 2>the shorter catch up episode between Brita and I talking

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<v Speaker 2>about what's happening in the world, something that comes from

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<v Speaker 2>pop culture, our own lives, basically the intro that's already

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<v Speaker 2>existing on our Tuesday episodes. That's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>standalone episode and that is what this is. And then

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<v Speaker 2>on Wednesday, we're going to drop the interviews. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why we decided to split these out is based

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<v Speaker 2>off your feedback and what you guys are loving and

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<v Speaker 2>what you guys are wanting to listen to, and it

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<v Speaker 2>means that you're going to be able to one you

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<v Speaker 2>can listen to everything, or two, if there's an episode

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<v Speaker 2>and an interview that you really really really want to hear,

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<v Speaker 2>you can kind of go straight to that instead of

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<v Speaker 2>having to jump ahead to listen to the interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you want to go through and you pick somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that is of interest to you in an interview, you

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<v Speaker 1>do want to go straight there. And other times you

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<v Speaker 3>We're shaking it up.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tuesdays is going to be the fun catch up banter,

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<v Speaker 2>We're kicking it off in Adelaide. But also what we're

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<v Speaker 3>So it is a good month for laf on Card.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, I have a question. Oh yeah, I saw

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<v Speaker 3>this on Reddit. There is a woman that was married

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<v Speaker 3>to her husband and.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that the relationship was struggling a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't sure what it was going to happen with it,

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<v Speaker 1>so she cheated on him. Then COVID struck and they

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<v Speaker 1>rekindled the relationship because they got stuck in a house

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<v Speaker 1>together and they refell.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in love.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she started to feel guilty that she had cheated

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<v Speaker 1>on him this one time. She didn't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>do about it, so she went to a church, went

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<v Speaker 1>to a priest and confessed to get off her chest.

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<v Speaker 1>And she also wanted to just have a really open,

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<v Speaker 1>non judgmental discussion with someone that's not biased. Didn't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like she could go to a friend, so she went

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<v Speaker 1>to the one place she thought she could trust. So

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<v Speaker 1>she went to the priest. She confessed, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to tell him, like you have to repent,

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<v Speaker 1>get it off your chest, heal things together and work

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<v Speaker 1>it out. Even if it doesn't heal, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>have this discussion. And that's my advice.

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<v Speaker 3>Say ten hail Mary's and our fathers and off your gout. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So she left and she thought she's just going to

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<v Speaker 1>sit on it for a while because she didn't know if.

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<v Speaker 3>When how to broach it.

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<v Speaker 1>She decided because things were so good and it was

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<v Speaker 1>one mistake that she wasn't going to tell him. But

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<v Speaker 1>then the priest followed up with the husband. So the

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<v Speaker 1>priest said, how did things go after you know?

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah told you? And he was like no, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was like.

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<v Speaker 1>The husband was like what because he didn't know, So

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<v Speaker 1>the priest outed the wife. The wife came home one

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<v Speaker 1>day and he was throwing all her stuff out and

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<v Speaker 1>he kicked her out. So the relationship's over because the

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<v Speaker 1>priest spilled the goss.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about who's in the wrong here?

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<v Speaker 3>Who is in the wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>The priest, I mean, of course she's in the wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course she did the wrong. Thing, but correct me

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm wrong. Most people would go and speak to

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<v Speaker 2>a priest because they think it is completely confidential. They

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<v Speaker 2>are bound to keep it confidential. And so I think

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<v Speaker 2>that it is that anonymity that would have made her

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<v Speaker 2>feel safe to talk about it, and would have made

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<v Speaker 2>her feel like she could make her own decision.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're not religious, if you're not Catholic or Christian,

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<v Speaker 2>you might not know this. You got a reconciliation. You

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<v Speaker 2>go into a tiny little box. You usually can't see

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<v Speaker 2>the priest. There's usually like a petition that separates you.

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<v Speaker 2>You sit there by yourself and you confess your sins,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he usually tells you six Hail Mary's and

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<v Speaker 2>an X amount of prayers. You have to repent on

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<v Speaker 2>your sins, and then that's going to absolve you of

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<v Speaker 2>your sins. I mean, I went to reconciliation when I

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<v Speaker 2>was a kid, so my memory of it is that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've never done it, like I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never even started that prespox.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so I've only ever been with like such trivial possums.

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<v Speaker 1>She's laughing at my terminology that I called it a priestpot,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the pritpot.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been with a complex problem, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, seven, I've never been with a complex problem

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<v Speaker 2>that the priest has said you need to go and

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<v Speaker 2>explain yourself to these people. There's never been like outside

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<v Speaker 2>ramifications other than like prayer repentance. So, for one, probably

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<v Speaker 2>didn't overstep the line if he didn't give all the information.

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<v Speaker 2>He just gave enough information for the husband to fill

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<v Speaker 2>in the blank.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's like he wanted It's like the priest low

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<v Speaker 3>key wanted him to know. He was like, how do

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<v Speaker 3>you drama? How do you feel after finding out about You.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, nobody's going to trust him to come to him

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<v Speaker 2>with their problems if he's taking upon himself to be

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<v Speaker 2>the cheating vigilante.

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<v Speaker 1>So you think the number one thing here is because

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be the same, right if a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>the family had found out and went and told him, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be the same kickoff. But is it just

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<v Speaker 1>because the priest is supposed to be sworn to a

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<v Speaker 1>level of secrecy, Because if this was like a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of yours that you told, or a friend of a

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<v Speaker 1>friend or somebody else had gone and said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell you your wife's been cheating. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to have the same repercussions, is it. Is

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<v Speaker 1>this only coming because of the fact that a priest

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<v Speaker 1>swears to secrecy, So you feel because either way, trust

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<v Speaker 1>is broken, right Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the thing is though, when you so, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've cheated on someone and you speak to your friend

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<v Speaker 2>about it, they are not sworn to secrecy. You're giving

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<v Speaker 2>them information and you might ask them not to tell anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think a lot of us have been in

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<v Speaker 2>this situation. You're not around cheating. But in other areas,

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<v Speaker 2>if you tell someone a secret and you say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell anyone, and they say, don't worry, I'll never

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<v Speaker 2>ever tell anyone, they can really do whatever the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>they want you with that information. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>trust that goes on there, right Like some people might

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<v Speaker 2>tell one person, some people might take it to the grave.

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<v Speaker 2>But I honestly think the majority of secrets that are told,

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<v Speaker 2>you might as well assume that they've told one person,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's kind of how these things. No one in

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<v Speaker 2>the world keeps a secret, not in the way that

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<v Speaker 2>you would hope them to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think maybe reflect on your own behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>When someone tells you a secret, do you keep it

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent to yourself or do you tell your

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend or your girlfriend or your best friend? Like are

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<v Speaker 2>the other people in your immediate network? Who you go, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I am keeping the secret? But I told that one person.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there's always that like, Okay, I've got to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you something, but you promise you can't tell anyone, and

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<v Speaker 1>they always that yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess it depends, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there will be people who are like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>there's things that I've been told that I've kept from

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<v Speaker 2>my husband or from my wife or whatever, or my

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<v Speaker 2>long term partner. But I think overarchingly and the majority,

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe it's a this is actually a good thing

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<v Speaker 2>to poll. I think majority of people would share other

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<v Speaker 2>people's secrets. And often the reason for that is because

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<v Speaker 2>they are told something and then they're asked to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it a secret, and it waits all them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Most people, it's like they tell a story or they

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<v Speaker 2>tell something that's happened, and then they go, oh, please

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell anyone, and it's like, of course, I will

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<v Speaker 2>keep your story and your secret because it is yours

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not mine. But at the same time, you

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<v Speaker 2>have now put that burden on me. You've put the

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<v Speaker 2>burden of secrecy on me without me subscribing to it.

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<v Speaker 2>The difference here is that a priest, the burden of

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<v Speaker 2>secrecy has been assigned to him. He has taken that

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<v Speaker 2>commitment by becoming a priest. So him sitting in that

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<v Speaker 2>box and you going to him for a confession, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a contract that's already been drawn up, which is

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<v Speaker 2>that this is a place where I can tell you

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<v Speaker 2>my deepest, darkest sins and you are not going to

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<v Speaker 2>share them with anyone. There is a level of protection

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<v Speaker 2>and lack of judgment that's supposed to.

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<v Speaker 3>Say trust no one.

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<v Speaker 1>I got pretty deep in this because I'm so fascinated

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't grow up in the church, so this

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<v Speaker 1>is all new to me, and I did a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of research.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened to this priest, but generally speaking, you can be

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<v Speaker 1>excommunicated as a priest, you get kicked out of the church.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot tell a secret. But more so than that,

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<v Speaker 1>which this absolutely gob smacked me a priest, because they've

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<v Speaker 1>made this contract with God and with the church from

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<v Speaker 1>what I read, can't even if they get information on

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<v Speaker 1>a crime, whether it's a crime that's been committed or

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<v Speaker 1>a crime that's going to be committed, whether that could

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<v Speaker 1>stop somebody being hurt severely, the priest cannot tell. They

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<v Speaker 1>also cannot give evidence in court, So if they found

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<v Speaker 1>out something on you, something, they're not allowed to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now people might disagree, but I think that is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is an exception to that, like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to report murder, be a priest does have to

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<v Speaker 1>report anything to do with children, like child abuse and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, which which I was about to say,

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<v Speaker 1>thank God, but I can't say that in this sense.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really fascinated by the workings of the contract

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<v Speaker 1>between a priest and the church and the God.

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<v Speaker 3>I was fascinated by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Which also makes you a question like, is this the

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<v Speaker 2>most scandalous thing this priest has ever heard that someone

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<v Speaker 2>within his network has cheated or their husband. Surely surely not,

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<v Speaker 2>like he's not getting any sort of tip off some murders,

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<v Speaker 2>is he?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 3>But also she can't sue, she's not that sue. I

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<v Speaker 3>checked that as well. Why who fucking knows he can't

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<v Speaker 3>report murder? She can't sue him. It's just.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is the most commonly asked question generally left unanswered.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder I think that there's also a bigger conversation

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<v Speaker 2>here around like, if you're someone who's cheated on your

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<v Speaker 2>husband or your partner and it's a once off and

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<v Speaker 2>you never ever ever plan on doing it again, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have made peace with yourself and you know that

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<v Speaker 2>you're never going to do it again, is it always

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing to tell them?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually again, I feel like I'm opening myself up

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<v Speaker 1>for some heat this week. I think there are some

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<v Speaker 1>situations where it's probably okay. I think if you were

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<v Speaker 1>in a rocky place, you made one mistake one night

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<v Speaker 1>which you deeply regret, and you're working towards fixing that, and.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you have a family and whatever else, I

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<v Speaker 3>think there are.

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<v Speaker 1>Certain times that it might be okay to not say

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<v Speaker 1>that and get on with life.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, But I know that's also controversial.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, It's so hard because, like, you know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that from someone Like My initial response to this is

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<v Speaker 2>like I would want to know, right, I want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want that to be secrets. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>someone to make a decision for me, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to be in a relationship where there has been

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<v Speaker 2>secrecy and I haven't had.

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<v Speaker 3>The opportunity to make my own decision.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I've spoken to Mad about this in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>and Matt has said directly, if you cheated on me,

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<v Speaker 2>if you were out drunk and you cheated on me

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<v Speaker 2>and you never were going to do it again and

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<v Speaker 2>it meant nothing and you regretted it, he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to know, because I don't want you

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<v Speaker 2>to offload your guilt, your feelings of betrayal and then

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<v Speaker 2>ruin my views of our relationship because of something that

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<v Speaker 2>you regret. It's one of those things, right, It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>so complex and so complicated and so individual to the

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<v Speaker 2>relationship that you're in and the old Brittany.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like I have changed.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, it's so nice to reflect sometimes even from the

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<v Speaker 1>four years from when the podcast started.

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<v Speaker 3>It's changed your perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>My perspective has changed on so many things. The old

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<v Speaker 1>me would have been like, you fucking cheat on me

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<v Speaker 1>once you're out the door, because I was cheated on

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<v Speaker 1>so many times. And the old me would have said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've cheated on me, i'd want to know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily feel like that now, And I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>think of if Ben exactly what you just said, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>with like you and Matt reverse, if Ben went out

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<v Speaker 1>one night, which I know he would never do, but

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<v Speaker 1>he made one big mistake and then pleasing me th

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<v Speaker 1>reast of my life and being a great husband, gone

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<v Speaker 1>down to me every day, riding me into the sunset.

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<v Speaker 1>If I could sit on his face. But if he

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<v Speaker 1>was so sorry, I wouldn't want him to tell me

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<v Speaker 1>because once that's there and that information is in the relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you want it to.

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<v Speaker 3>Or not, it changes thing. So it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always going to be in the forefront, in the backfront,

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<v Speaker 1>in your subconscious, in you like.

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<v Speaker 3>It just changes things.

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<v Speaker 1>So I definitely do now think that there are times

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<v Speaker 1>and situations that you know, sometimes better to keep to yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what, everybody is going to show up

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<v Speaker 2>to this differently. Everyone's going to have a different opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>If you disagree with this, that's okay, Like we are

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<v Speaker 2>not saying this and thinking like that everyone is going

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<v Speaker 2>to agree with us, because I think it is a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a controversial opinion on cheek and cheating is

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<v Speaker 2>so not black and white.

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<v Speaker 3>We all know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think that sometimes there is this almost

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<v Speaker 2>like like I said, passing of the guilt, passing of

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<v Speaker 2>the responsibility. I feel so guilty for what I've done

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<v Speaker 2>that you need to know because it makes me feel better.

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<v Speaker 2>But all I'm doing is making you feel shit in

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<v Speaker 2>the process as well, So I wonder if that plays

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<v Speaker 2>a part in it. But like I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have there's no rule, there's no right and wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>What would it be if you reversed your situation? So

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<v Speaker 3>you said if you cheated, Matt wouldn't want to know

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<v Speaker 3>what if he had done it once?

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<v Speaker 2>So if he had done it once, I wouldn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to know. But if there was ever the opportunity that

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<v Speaker 2>I might find out, I would want to know. Because

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<v Speaker 2>the problem is is that if you find out in

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<v Speaker 2>a way, for example, like this instance, finding out from

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<v Speaker 2>the priest, if you find out from a way that

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<v Speaker 2>feels more disrespectful, then I think that that is where

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<v Speaker 2>it becomes just like just an absolute battlefield that you're

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<v Speaker 2>never ever going to win. So so true, Yeah, hang on, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>second question, more hypotheticals, Part two.

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<v Speaker 3>You just said that you like repented when you were seven.

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<v Speaker 3>What did you repent at seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so my I have a very interest. I would say, no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not an interesting relationship with the church.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not interesting at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very stop standard relationship with the church. Where

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<v Speaker 2>I was brought up Catholic, we did everything, we did reconciliation, communion, confirmation,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're six. I went to Catholic schools. My dad

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<v Speaker 2>is Irish Catholic, and he was really set on us

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<v Speaker 2>being brought up in the church.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I actually didn't really know that. I knew that

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<v Speaker 3>you like popped your hand in every now and again,

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<v Speaker 3>but I didn't know you were like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we were like yeah, so we were really brought

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<v Speaker 2>up within the church. So when I was I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of remember like in you no, it's not even

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<v Speaker 2>your six, it's like you three or something.

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<v Speaker 3>You do you're like eight years old?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were okay when you were like in primary school,

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<v Speaker 2>like the in the first couple of years you do reconciliation.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to learn this whole thing, and you go

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<v Speaker 2>up and you say the prayer and then there's a ceremony.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway you do reconciliation.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you've got to go every Sunday and you repent

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<v Speaker 2>your sins right.

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<v Speaker 3>In the priest box, and you sit in the priest box.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're painting your sins to the priest who's hit

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<v Speaker 2>hideing behind the curtain. So the thing is is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I don't think I was. I

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<v Speaker 2>was always in trouble, but I don't think I was

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<v Speaker 2>a particularly naughty kid, right. I felt like, well, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you have to repent for? Like what's the things

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm supposed to say that I did? So I

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<v Speaker 2>always felt like I didn't have something to apologize that

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<v Speaker 2>was big enough, that was worthy of apologizing for, you know, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I was mean to my sister whatever, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know those sorts of things like every kid. But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have like I thought I needed to go

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<v Speaker 2>to the priest with a specific thing every week, So

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<v Speaker 2>like I stole something or I did.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would lie to the priest.

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<v Speaker 2>I would make up stories and I'd be like, oh, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I need to say that I'm sorry because

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<v Speaker 2>I stole lollies from the corner store.

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<v Speaker 3>Never did it, Oh, never did it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I made up crimes, So every week I would

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<v Speaker 2>lie to the priest about what I'd done to then

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<v Speaker 2>have to say our fathers and Hail Mary's and everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think he knew? No? I think he thinks

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<v Speaker 3>I was a fucking really naughty kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever did you talk amongst yourselves as kids

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<v Speaker 1>about this kind of thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Like do you talk to each other about what you

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<v Speaker 3>repented or that you lie?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Does anyone ever know? Why have you taken that to

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<v Speaker 3>the grave?

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up talking to my sister about it as

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<v Speaker 2>like as an adult, and she thought it was funny

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<v Speaker 2>because she also did the same thing. But her lives

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<v Speaker 2>would be things like I stole my sister's hair brush

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't give it back, or I'm so sorry that

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't make my bed this morning because my sister

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<v Speaker 2>was so well behaved, and there I was like doing

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<v Speaker 2>Petty Cris.

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<v Speaker 3>Corner store. That weren't true. How do you ever steal

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<v Speaker 3>something as a kid? Never I did the lie.

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<v Speaker 2>I stole some stickers from Missus Gillis and she caught me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I did as a kid? We

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<v Speaker 1>were really healthy, a really healthy family. We weren't off

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<v Speaker 1>in allowed treats unless it was like we're on holiday

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<v Speaker 1>or as a special event or a birthday or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of my friends was allowed any jung food

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted, and she always had that hubber bubba, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the bubble gum that came in to meat along you

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<v Speaker 1>could pull it out. She always had that, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were never allowed to have it. Firstly, it was sugar

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<v Speaker 1>and shit. Secondly it was a choking hazard, apparently, my

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:55.919
<v Speaker 1>mum said. And then like we'd always swallow it. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know the old myth that it gets stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>your body for like twenty five years, probably still in

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<v Speaker 1>there now, so I remember, I'm not twenty five anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>But sorry, thirty six. I really wanted his hub bubba.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember we were at like a Target store

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<v Speaker 1>and mom was going through the checkout and they always

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<v Speaker 1>have the lallies at the checkout, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck it, now's my time. So I took a hub

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<v Speaker 1>Bubba put in my pocket, and we almost liked the

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<v Speaker 1>shopping center, and I couldn't wait. I was so excited

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.359
<v Speaker 1>that I couldn't even wait to get home to try

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I stole.

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<v Speaker 3>So I pulled my mouth and put my mout mom goes,

0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.240
<v Speaker 3>what are you chewing? And I was like nothing. She goes,

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<v Speaker 3>spit it out. So I spat it out and it

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:31.400
<v Speaker 3>was huba babba. She goes, where'd you go that from?

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.160
<v Speaker 3>And I had to tell her that I stole it.

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<v Speaker 1>She walked me back inside in front of everyone, back

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<v Speaker 1>to the lady, back to the counter, and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to tell everyone that I stole it. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassed and I had to give it back and we

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<v Speaker 1>had to pay for it. And I'm never but you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, good on your mum, because I've never been

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.840
<v Speaker 1>more embarrassed. But I never stole again because I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I never want to feel this. I had tell everyone, goes,

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<v Speaker 1>tell everyone what you did.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I stole it. I'm humiliated for you.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a kid. Moms like you can't, you cannot steal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like really good parenting. It was good parent I

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<v Speaker 2>would do the same. I would humiliate my children to

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<v Speaker 2>prove a point.

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<v Speaker 1>But she is like, if you know you're old enough

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<v Speaker 1>to steal it, you're old enough to apologize and give back.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, fucking fair court. I didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>fair court, a fair court hour.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's something else I wanted to talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>about have you seen any of the series Selling the OC.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you're gonna say, because I've seen this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation going around hit me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so selling the OC now. Look, I'm not watching it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason why I want to talk about this

0:25:30.720 --> 0:25:33.640
<v Speaker 2>is because the TV series has made its way into

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<v Speaker 2>our Facebook group. There was a little discussion on the

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<v Speaker 2>page about season two.

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<v Speaker 3>There is a character.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Austin, and he is married to a

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<v Speaker 2>woman named Lisa. They have two daughters, twins. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>they have a little beautiful family.

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<v Speaker 1>And selling the OC, so you know, is like another

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<v Speaker 1>version of like selling Sunset.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a reality show. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, Austin, he was speaking to one of his friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a theme that's come up a couple

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 2>of times in the most recent episodes. He was speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to one of his friends about how his wife is

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<v Speaker 2>a bit baby crazy at the moment, how she's got

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<v Speaker 2>baby fever. She wants them to have another kid. He's

0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>not ready to have another kid after having their twins. Financially,

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't feel ready, emotionally, mentally, whatever other reasons, he

0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel ready. And what he has said that his

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:19.800
<v Speaker 2>wife is doing is that she is baby trapping him.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, when they're having sex, she is putting her

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<v Speaker 2>legs around him and making him come inside her.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, she called it a leg he called it a

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<v Speaker 3>leg lock. Okay, I have listened to this. I love

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<v Speaker 3>my life, I love my kids and wife, and she's

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<v Speaker 3>got baby fever right now. So she's then taking her

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<v Speaker 3>legs and leg locking me.

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Really mean, she works out legs all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he's just like she just jiu jitsues you

0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 3>and your pregnant. Yeah, that's exactly what does. It's a

0:26:48.680 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 3>jiu jitsu leg lock, sexual hype pig. That sounds fine,

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 3>now it's fuck that now.

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<v Speaker 2>There was quite the debate in the Facebook group about

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<v Speaker 2>this as to who was in the wrong.

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, should she'd be able to jiu jitsu him into

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 1>having a baby and the.

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Question and yeah, And I think it was really interesting

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 2>in the Facebook group because it was really interesting to

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 2>see how divisive everyone is and how people's opinions sat

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:17.959
<v Speaker 2>on either side. I really wanted to get your opinion

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>on this, brit and what you think and who do

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>you think is in the wrong? In this conversation around

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.280
<v Speaker 2>one about consent and two about this idea of baby trapping.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and my opinion has changed and it's gone back

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and forth. My immediate opinion like without thought, right, you know,

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.119
<v Speaker 1>when you read something or you hear something, My immediate

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>thought was, that's fucked, Like, you can't do that. You

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>can't wrap your legs around and trap them in at

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>the crucial moment so they can't pull out and make

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>him come inside you like at the end of the day,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 1>that is not consensual. If he was planning on pulling out,

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>it's really fucked. Yeah, But then I thought, Okay, it's

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 1>still fucked. But it takes two to tango. If you

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:56.960
<v Speaker 1>don't want a kid, why an't you wearing a condom?

0:27:57.080 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is my question. Consent can change it any time.

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 3>You all know that.

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>And consense still matters. Doesn't matter if you've be married

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.119
<v Speaker 1>for twenty five years, consense still matters.

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel exactly like you do in terms of like

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>my opinion flip flopped when I very first heard it.

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I have complex feelings around it because

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:14.439
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I think that there is so

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 2>much responsibility on women to completely take ownership of fertility,

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 2>like men don't have to do anything. We have to

0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>do the contraception, We have to do the ovulation planning,

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>we have to do the baby brearing and growing and

0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 2>everything else. Like, the responsibility of that completely falls on us.

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>And so if you're having consensual sex, whether it's in

0:28:33.320 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 2>a relationship or not in a relationship, as a man,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 2>if you don't want children, then I think you need

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 2>to take some responsibility for the contraception in that as well. Now,

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 2>the flip side of this is it's interesting how when

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>it's reversed, we are talking about it as though it's

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 2>funny on a TV show, Like it was done in

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 2>a very lighthearted way on this series.

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>The way they converse about it, I was like, this

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>can't really be a problem for you. It was such

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 1>a throwaway comment and I was sort of giggling with

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.719
<v Speaker 1>each other. I was like, I don't understand why you're

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 1>delivering it like that.

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it seemed like he was taking it seriously.

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, if this conversation was reversed

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and the genders were reversed, we would see this incredibly differently,

0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Like it wouldn't be grey, it would be very black

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and white. If the story was that a man was

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 2>pinning a woman down there having consensual sex and then

0:29:16.160 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to come in her because he wanted to

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>get her pregnant. And I think that that's an important

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>point to make around how one version of this story

0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:26.360
<v Speaker 2>is black and white and one version is gray. But

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 2>I hate the term baby trapping because I think it

0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 2>paints women as being manipulative. It paints women as being

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>someone who's deceptive, who's trying to do anything to get

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 2>what they want. But at the same time, I really

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>do think that men have to take some responsibility for

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 2>their fertility and if they are in a situation where

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.640
<v Speaker 2>they feel as though they don't have control because the

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>woman has the upper hand in it. Where are condom,

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.320
<v Speaker 2>it's very very clear cut, and then you won't have

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to have this around pulling out or not pulling out,

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 2>because we all know that it's not you can't. You

0:29:54.000 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>don't just get pregnant from the final ejaculation. You can

0:29:56.960 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>get pregnant from pre com you can get pregnant. The

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 2>pull out method is no, not one hundred percent, and

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>so I think that that puts way more emphasis on,

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>like the woman being the.

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 3>Bad person in this situation. It's also so important to

0:30:08.200 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 3>have both sides of the story right. So his wife

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 3>did also respond, I think in the past few weeks,

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I've decided that I don't want you my children. Well,

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 3>I've decided in the past few weeks that I do.

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 3>So I know you leaklocked me and they'll keep doing it.

0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously it's irrelevant whether they're joking or not.

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>It's brought up a bigger issue that a lot of

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>people are talking about, and I think it's a really

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 1>important issue to talk about, which is the change of

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:35.840
<v Speaker 1>consent at any moment in any type of relationship. So,

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.120
<v Speaker 1>whether they mental or not, they've started a very important

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:40.440
<v Speaker 1>conversation off the back of it.

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 3>But they're both responsible.

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>In this situation, and I feel like they're both in

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>the wrong. Maybe not necessarily. The onus is in fifty

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>to fifty, but they both can He can take some responsibility.

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.120
<v Speaker 1>He also has to have a conversation with her and

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>say you cannot do that anymore. So the consent is

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>clear and she needs to respect that because exactly what

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.720
<v Speaker 1>you said, Laura, it's a great if this role was reversed,

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>these conversations would be a lot more serious.

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, we'd be throwing around sexual assault allegations beyond

0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, it would be such a different discourse that

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>we would be having. I think that this is a

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>topic that's going to have some pretty polarizing opinions on it,

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:17.720
<v Speaker 2>and it did definitely in the Facebook thread there was

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 2>some fore and against. But I would love to know

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>how people feel and where people sit on this, and

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 2>whether this is something that you think lies more with

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the female, or whether it's lies more with the male

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 2>in this instance, or whether it's something that mutually they

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>have full responsibility for and that sits somewhere fifty to fifty.

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 2>I would love to know if you're listening to this, like,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>please tell us what you think of it, because usually

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>we come up with an end result where we feel

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 2>pretty solid, But in this instance, I think it's like

0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>both people and both parties are at fault here.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm just thinking back over the years. It

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 1>actually makes me really really angry. The narrative of when

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a guy says, yeah, but she fucking went and got

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 1>pregnant to trap him. She didn't go and get pregnant,

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I mean, yeah, okay, she did get pregnant, but

0:31:57.040 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>how did she get pregnant with his sperm?

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Totally? And of course there are.

0:32:00.840 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Some women out there that purposely try and get pregnant

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>for whatever isn't I mean, we remember the Drake Hot

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Sauce saga.

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:08.680
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember that Drake Hot Sauce saga?

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like there are of course, there are going to

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 1>be women in the world, but this general idea of

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 1>and it usually happens in younger relationships or relationships that

0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 1>are quite new. This is when I have heard people

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>this sort of a commentary, and it's when I don't

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 1>like it. It's when maybe someone stated for six months,

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>she gets pregnant, and people are like, oh my god,

0:32:27.040 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>she got pregnant just to lock him down.

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but even I think the issue with the whole

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Drake Sauce saga, which I mean Treke Sauce Okay, the

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>issue with that is that is the minority, and then

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>it's used as a conversation to paint women as the majority.

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 3>That's the problem, right.

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>These things are few and far between, but they are

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 2>used and they are weaponized, and I think that that

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 2>is very misleading. It is time for our favorite part

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 2>of every episode, and I should just say Tuesday episodes

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 2>now and that is accidentally unfiltered. All right, I'm going

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 2>to kick it off. I've done the most embarrassing thing

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>when drunk on a hens. So the night was going

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 2>as planned. We ended our night at the male strip

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>show one. I was very excited about. All the bridesmaids

0:33:08.480 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 2>got caught on stage for a special show. My task

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>was to get into my favorite sex position. So here

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>I am in a mini dress with my bum hanging

0:33:16.880 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>out in doggie, with the male stripper pulling my hair

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 2>making my best orgasm sounds.

0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Your girl really put on a show.

0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>The girls have filmed it, and in my drunken state,

0:33:26.880 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I thought it would be a great idea to send

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 2>it to my fun auntie.

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 3>That's never a good idea.

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I lookt everyone has an auntie that you could send

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>this to. Actually I don't. My auntie would not appreciate this,

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 2>but some people do, all right, the fun auntie. I

0:33:40.560 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>wake up in the morning with the scaries, you know,

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the hangover scaries that you feel when you're like, fuck,

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 2>what have I done last night? And I checked my phone.

0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Turns out I didn't send it to my auntie. I

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 2>sent it to my uncle. That's the message had been

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 2>read and he never replied.

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 3>What are you going to reply to that?

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Look having a fun note sweet like no, that's always

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>where you control alt delete and pretended dinner You don't?

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 3>You just completely.

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I wish you could control alt delete your life like

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 2>every soft And when I do something wrong, I'm like

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 2>I troll.

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 3>Drinking, do not disturb, get your phone off, don't.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>It's never ever a good idea like never good I

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>do okay many means Ago. I was flying to New

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>York after a sweet sweet week in Cancoon. I can

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>confirm I wasn't the healthiest way when hopping on that flight.

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Zero sleep and very hungover.

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure something else as well about Yeah.

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.440
<v Speaker 1>About four hours into the flight, I had to use

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 1>the restroom as I was feeling sick. Luckily for me,

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>I was able to use one of the paper thin

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>vomit bags to catch the spew whilst.

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 3>I was on the toilet pants down. This was a

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 3>lot of vomit.

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>However, the bag breaks and the vomit spills out and

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:52.479
<v Speaker 1>landing my unties. I attempt to shovel the spew from

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 1>my undies into the sink slash bin slash toilet slash

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>all of the above. I quickly realized it's not working

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and proceed to rip my un he's off into the

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 1>bin as I was wearying just leggings but the cube

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 1>because was too tiny to attempt to move around in anyway.

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Success undiser off and I've bidden them. Moments later, after

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I returned to my seat, they made an announcement that

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>they had to shut the toilet and advise passengers to

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 1>only use the toilet up the front. I single handedly

0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 1>shut down the toilet.

0:35:21.120 --> 0:35:23.680
<v Speaker 3>What ify? Do you know what I actually said? Me

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 3>sort of did that.

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Nothing like the person who had gastrow on that flight

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>that had to be redirecting.

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.880
<v Speaker 3>No, this rings like this hit home for me because

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:32.479
<v Speaker 3>when I was in New York.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Remember I've always told you guys that story about I

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:36.840
<v Speaker 1>went overseas with my boyfriend of a couple of months.

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 3>We broke up like one week into the six week trip, right, Yeah,

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 3>the first the farta.

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>The first thing I did when we broke up was

0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I went to New York and I did what anyone did,

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, fuck this, I'm going to go

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>out on my own basically and get liddy.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:51.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a big partier.

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>So I I messaged one person that I knew from

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:55.319
<v Speaker 1>years ago that I knew was in New York. It

0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>was a doctor I had worked with like eight years ago,

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, you're the only person I know

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>this is my situation. He's like, oh, oh my god, yes,

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll take you out, like, let's have fun. So we

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:05.800
<v Speaker 1>went out drinking all night shots. I don't do shots,

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.439
<v Speaker 1>and then you know those she shot like this, yes,

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>why So I started to do with those, and I

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:12.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't know you shouldn't do those.

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 3>I've never done them. I started smoking those and I

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 3>did that whilst I was drinking. Anyway, my flight was

0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 3>six am. The next morning.

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:22.879
<v Speaker 1>I got home at like four am, vomiting everywhere I get.

0:36:22.920 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 1>I almost missed my plane. I get to New York

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Airport and vomit on the floor of the airport and

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the vomit was like purple.

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.240
<v Speaker 3>Because of the she sha color, so my I was projected.

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:34.479
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I let me on the plane.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I was vomiting everywhere and it was like it was disgusting,

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and got onto the plane, vomited all over the toilet,

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the bathroom floor had to scoop it. Up off the

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 1>toilet floor of the plane, but they didn't close the plane.

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 3>But that like this for me, that was my worst

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 3>travel moment in history. So I really feel for this girl.

0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I once caught vomiting my own hands on a Country

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Link train heading to Wollongong and then had to drop

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor because I didn't really think through what

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing and.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you drop it on the floor. I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>where am I going to take this? There was so

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<v Speaker 3>much of it had overflowed already.

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<v Speaker 1>I just went straight into my hands and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think you got the toilet?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. It just came out of nowhere. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>was that was me in New York. See me sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes, it comes. It was after a Kings

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<v Speaker 3>of Leon concert. Is that what they're called anyway? I

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<v Speaker 3>was at that concept. Oh so bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, well look guys, like we said, we

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<v Speaker 2>are doing things differently this week. We have my interview tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>so you are getting not extra because it's the same

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<v Speaker 2>amount of content, but you just get in an extra

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<v Speaker 2>EP in your inbox this week, which I'm so excited

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<v Speaker 2>about tomorrow's episode.

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<v Speaker 3>We are speaking about narcissism.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing a massive deep dive into We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>do this as a two part are. Actually tomorrow's one

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<v Speaker 2>is more around narcissism and dating, what it's like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're dating someone who's narcissistic, how you can spot that,

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<v Speaker 2>how you recover from dating a narcissist.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the part two.

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<v Speaker 2>Of this series that we're going to do is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be all around into family narcissism. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a parent who is a narcissist, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've grown up in that type of household, how you

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<v Speaker 2>can deal with conflict within family members, or if you're

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<v Speaker 2>co parenting with a narcissist when it's a situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you can't get away from them. Yeah, we're speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to a woman called Nova Gibson, who we absolutely love.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the author of Fake Love and she's also has

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<v Speaker 1>childrenone's a counseling service. Fake Love is understanding and healing

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<v Speaker 1>from narcissistic abuse. So Nova is definitely the woman to

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<v Speaker 1>speak to you on this topic. And unashamedly, Laura and

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<v Speaker 1>I are like pretty obsessed with the topic of narcissism.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because we've got a level of lived experience,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just find it so fascinating. I think even

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<v Speaker 1>if I didn't have a lived experience the topic of narcissism,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone knows someone in their life in some capacity, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a work colleague. I feel like everyone is

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<v Speaker 1>going to come across a narcissist in their life, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is a really great tool set to have to

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<v Speaker 1>go into these relationships so you know how to handle them.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a really great episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait you listen to it, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to do the second episode on the family Narcissism.

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