1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: My name is Lily Maddon and I'm a proud Arunda 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Bunjelung Calcuttin woman from Gadigul Country. The Daily oz acknowledges 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on the lands of the 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Gadighl people and pays respect to all Aboriginal and Torres 5 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: Strait Island and nations. We pay our respects to the 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: first peoples of these countries, both past and present. 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os It's Monday, 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: the seventeenth of December. I'm Sam, I'm Zara. In today's 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Deep Dive, Sophie and Maddie from Your Own Good Company 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: are joining us one last time for twenty twenty two, 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: and we're going to take a look back at the 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: year that was in business, from Patagonia's profits going to 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 2: the environment, to ai chatblots and Elon Musk buying Twitter. 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: You could say, we'll talk about everything big in tech 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: and finance, including the kitchen sink. But first, Sarah, what's 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: making headlines this morning. 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: Investigations are continuing into the violence of the A League's 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: Melbourne derby on Saturday night, with Victoria Police launching a 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: special task force to identify the perpetrators. As part of 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: the investigation, Melbourne Victory will reportedly be issued a show 21 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: cause notice by Football Australia to explain the actions of 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: its fans, potentially resulting in life bans, loss of competition 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: points or a heavy fine. 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: More than one hundred people across Australia have reported symptoms 25 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: after eating potentially hallucinogenic spinach in coals vegetable products. It's 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 2: not just limited to Cole's, Woolworth's, Costco and Aldi have 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 2: also recalled some products, all thought to be from the 28 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: same spinach supplier. According to Food Standards Australia and New Zealand, 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: the spinach may have traces of what they describe as 30 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: unsafe plant material that may cause illness if consumed. Customers 31 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: can get a full refund for their products. 32 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: A sitting member of the Northern Territory Parliament has died, 33 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: aged fifty two. The Member for Arafora, whose name is 34 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 3: withheld for cultural reasons, represented communities across Arnham Land, Kakadu 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 3: and the Teawi Islands for the last six years. Yesterday, 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: Anti Chief Minister Natasha Files paid tribute to his quote 37 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: lifetime of service. 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: And today's good news Cambridge University will return one hundred 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 2: bronze statues looted from the West African nation of Benin 40 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: in eighteen ninety seven. The statues will now be delivered 41 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 2: to the National Commission of Museums and Monuments in neighboring Nigeria, 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: a plan formally supported by the King of Benin. Joined 43 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: for the last time in twenty twenty two by Maddie 44 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: and Sophie from Your in Good Company. It's been such 45 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: a pleasure to have these guys on the podcast throughout 46 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: the year to give us a bit of a different 47 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 2: perspective on the world of finance, technology, trading stocks, personal wealth, property, 48 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: the whole lot. What I thought would do today is 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: ask these guys what has stood out to them in 50 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Maddie, I'll start with you, What is 51 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: the story that You'll remember? Twenty twenty two. 52 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: By sam I Reckon. There are about five stories every 53 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: year that make me like seriously excited, and I'm talking 54 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 4: go around the office telling everyone, fording the story to 55 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 4: my friends, my family, basically anyone that will listen. And 56 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: I think the biggest one that comes to mind for 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: me this year is Patagonia's founder announcing that he was 58 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 4: giving away his company worth four point four billion dollars 59 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: to fight the climate crisis. So Patagonia expects to generate 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: and donate about one hundred million dollars annually depending on 61 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: the health of the business, with any profits that aren't 62 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: reinvested into the business to keep it operating and growing 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: going to fight climate change. 64 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: It was a pretty amazing moment, and I know on 65 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: Instagram for us, it really did well as a story 66 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: and really resonated with people. Sophie, what was yours. 67 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 5: I feel like it would be remiss of me to 68 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 5: not speak about Elon Musk. I think this year we 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 5: have spoken about Elon Musk enough too much. But I 70 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 5: can't go past the fact that he did put in 71 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 5: a bid and then eventually bought Twitter for forty four 72 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 5: billion dollars. I think the reason that this story was 73 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 5: really interesting is because it sparked a lot of debate 74 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 5: about freedom of speech and how people will use social 75 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 5: media platforms in the future for freedom of speech. You know, 76 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 5: on the one side, you had people saying that Elon 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 5: was going to use it for his own personal use 78 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 5: and you know, political escapades, and then the other side 79 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 5: said Twitter is very heavily regulated, so maybe it's a 80 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 5: good thing that it goes private. It was a massive 81 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 5: news story that ran for many months, so it's definitely 82 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 5: one that I'm going to remember twenty twenty two. 83 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 2: And something that was really interesting about the day that 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: Elon Musk officially took over at Twitter was I remember 85 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: my Twitter feed was just full of people saying I'm 86 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: quitting Twitter and that's it. I've had enough. But funnily enough, 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: most of them are still there. So it just proves 88 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: the stickiness of social media. And you know, it survived 89 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: the first two months of Elon, so who knows what 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three will hold for the platform. 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 5: As he said himself, let that sink in. So maybe 92 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 5: it's just sinking in. 93 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: And that's because he's now the because he brought a 94 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: sink in on his first day. Typical Elon Maddie. What 95 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: was the most surprising thing that happened in twenty twenty two? 96 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: I think for me, it definitely has to be the 97 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 4: US Supreme Court's decision to overturn Roe versus Way, the 98 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 4: landmark case that gave women the right to have an abortion. 99 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: I think, as one commentator from the NBC put it, 100 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: the Supreme Court has never before granted a widely recognized 101 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: constitutional right and then taken it back. And I think 102 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: at the time and still today, I have a very 103 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 4: cultural reaction when I think about this decision. But you know, 104 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 4: one thing that did come out of it for me 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 4: was the power of companies and the opportunity for you know, 106 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 4: incredible influence that good leaders can have in dark moments 107 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: such as these. 108 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: And you're talking there about the companies that have offered 109 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, relocation fees and support for those who seek 110 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: an abortion but aren't in states that offer them. 111 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, I think it was really heartening to see 112 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: how so many leaders did come out and offer support 113 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 4: and respond to what was going on in their various states. 114 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: I do think going forward, it will be very interesting 115 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 4: to see how these companies and leaders are actually able 116 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: to sort of implement these things in reality. But it 117 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 4: was definitely sort of one positive side of the story 118 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: to come out of something that's not so positive. 119 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: It definitely felt like cascading dominos. You know, one or 120 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: two companies released a statement saying that this is what 121 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: they were going to do despite the Supreme Court's decision, 122 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: and then it was five or six the next day, 123 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: and then ten or eleven the next day, and Corporate 124 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: America really stood behind their female employees, which was quite 125 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: incredible to see. So if you was yours, what took 126 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: your breath away? In twenty twenty. 127 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 5: Two, I don't know if it's taking my breath away, 128 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 5: but I I was really surprised by the fact that Meta, 129 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 5: which is the parent company of Facebook, reported its first 130 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 5: drop in revenue since it's IPO in twenty twelve. So 131 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 5: we're talking ten years that Facebook has had increasing revenues 132 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 5: and this was the first time in July this year 133 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 5: that it reported a decline. I think, you know, Facebook 134 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: has really seen a bit of a decline in terms 135 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 5: of its reputation after all the whistleblower activity last year 136 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 5: which caused the company a lot of harm, and then 137 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 5: this year they've really tried to pivot into that kind 138 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 5: of metaverse space and become a power player in the 139 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 5: immersive three D experience. But people aren't really latching onto 140 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: Facebook like they used to, and I think they're really 141 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 5: grappling with a declining an aging user base and they're 142 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 5: facing more competition from apps like TikTok. 143 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Maybe it's time to be real and we'll start, we'll 144 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: start using different platforms and who knows, guys. I want 145 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: to look forward. Now that's enough with twenty twenty two. 146 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 2: Let's look at twenty twenty three. I want you to 147 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: similarly take my breath away in a bold prediction for 148 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: the year ahead. 149 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: So we have the US election coming up in twenty 150 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 4: twenty four, and I was actually recently gifted Michelle Obama's 151 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 4: new book, Becoming. Can't say I've read it yet, so 152 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: don't take any sort of insight info from this, but 153 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 4: my bold prediction is Michelle Obama will run for US 154 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: president in twenty twenty four. 155 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: Dang, there we go, Mark my words, that's a big one. 156 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: That is a big one. We'll chat in twelve months 157 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: to see how right you were, Sophie, What are you thinking? 158 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 5: I am thinking that bitcoin could make a comeback. 159 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: I feel hope you're right. 160 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 6: I feel look after this whole FDx saga, I feel 161 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 6: like it's either going to be the total collapse of 162 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 6: cryptocurrencies or it will really spark the. 163 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: Conversation about why we need regulation. And I know a 164 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 5: lot of people in this space want regulation, So maybe 165 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: it's a potential for comeback, and I think maybe we 166 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 5: should all put our bets in where we think bitcoin 167 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 5: it's going to be sitting at December twenty twenty four. 168 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: Maddie, you've got bitcoin, where do you want it to 169 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: be sitting? 170 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 4: I would like it to be high, But I would 171 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: just like to clarify so that we're not about betting, 172 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 4: We're about investing for our future. 173 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 6: Absolutely not. 174 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 5: But it's a bold prediction. 175 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 2: So you know, love it, love it. Love it, Love it, Mick, 176 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: love it, Love it, Maddie. I'm keen to finish off 177 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: by looking a little more broadly next year, what space one, 178 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 2: emerging tech? What sector are you paying particular attention to look. 179 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's just me, but it really 180 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 4: does feel like that AI is all of the rage 181 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: at the moment. I have been saying this chat GPT 182 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: thing all over my social media, that AI chatbot developed 183 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: by OpenAI that is answering people's questions, writing them songs, 184 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: doing all sorts of crazy things. So I've got my 185 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: I on AI and looking at potential investment opportunities in 186 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: the space. 187 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, chat GBT has been everywhere with this whole pog 188 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 2: class is actually written by AI and we're just reading 189 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: a script. So the AI will actually be taking over 190 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: the hosting next year, which will be fun Sophie, tell 191 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: me which space is getting you up? 192 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 5: And about funny you mentioned the word space because I 193 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 5: am actually looking towards space tech. I was having a 194 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: conversation with someone the other day who works in space 195 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 5: tech consulting, and they were talking about how they use 196 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 5: satellites and they identify like flooding and natural disasters and 197 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 5: it kind of helps them spot where there could be 198 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 5: issues with like train lines and roads, and I thought 199 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 5: it was some really cool technology. I also know that 200 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 5: this year Starlink was able to provide internet in Ukraine 201 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 5: during a time where they weren't able to access the internet. 202 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 5: So I think space tech is an up and coming 203 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 5: space that I want to start researching. 204 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: And I think that gets me really excited about that 205 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: space is space tourism and whether we're actually on our 206 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 2: way to be taking a holiday to space. And I 207 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: think there's obviously a little bit of a prohibitive factor 208 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: at the moment about cost, so it's mainly linked to 209 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 2: male old billionaires at the moment, but we will I 210 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: think we'll get there. One day. It might not be 211 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: next year, but we'll get there one day. 212 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 5: Maybe I'll change my bold prediction to Sam going overseas, 213 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 5: meeting some space take billionaire and being put into space. 214 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, I see us starting the Daily Moon 215 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: as a clientele. It's got a ring to it. Maddie 216 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: and Sophie, I just want to thank you for coming 217 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 2: on this year and being such good friends of the 218 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: Daily Ours and hope you both have a wonderful New 219 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: Year's period. You'll be back again next year. Happy holidays, 220 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. Everybody. Have a wonderful start 221 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: to the week. For a lot of you, it's the 222 00:11:50,559 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: last week of the working year. Have a fantastic one, 223 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: me