WEBVTT - Interview: Drax Project

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we ready? Hey, what's up? We're Drax Project

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<v Speaker 1>on The Smallsy Show.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen these lads in a long time back

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<v Speaker 2>on the show. And for the first time at our

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<v Speaker 2>new home. You like what I did with the joint?

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<v Speaker 3>What a view.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact you built this with your own hands through Smallsy,

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<v Speaker 3>this is incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Drax Project here, everybody. Welcome, lads. Catch me up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>We're trying to work out the last time we saw

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<v Speaker 2>each other. We think it's 2019. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in a, it was in a rundown sort

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<v Speaker 1>of Hollywood shack.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That sounds real. That sounds, I believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys were staying there and we got a, we

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<v Speaker 1>got a message from an unknown number.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very, it was, it was a good interview and, um.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>And, um.

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<v Speaker 1>Appreciate the feedback. It was a positive memory for us, especially.

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<v Speaker 1>That was probably the last time we were, actually that was,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the last time we were in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't gone back. Have we?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I hope it wasn't anything to do with

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<v Speaker 2>yours truly.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, it was nothing to do with that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the.

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<v Speaker 2>Drug smuggling, and that was why.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had multiple talks about that shack, but.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that was the last one. This is nice.

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<v Speaker 1>This is way nicer. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much. Well... You guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding everyone, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>But, you know, they didn't smuggle drugs whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>They were dressed in all white and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very nice house.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. Now, you briefly lived here in Australia over

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But then you two have gone home because you're now dads.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask, remember, there's no wrong answer here.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though you feel the pressure, because some people say,

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<v Speaker 2>best thing I ever did was to become a parent.

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<v Speaker 2>Is being a rock star, pop star, or a parent better?

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<v Speaker 2>What's better?

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's not. I think just biologically.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't. It feels.

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<v Speaker 3>You can be both.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. That's what he's trying to say.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess so. But there's nothing. They're just completely different things. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the highs of each are extremely high and amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The baseline of a rock star. whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. I just never really think we were like what

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<v Speaker 1>you described.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah. But also the lows.

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<v Speaker 2>Pop yourself up.

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<v Speaker 3>The extremes of parenthood are more extreme than a baseline.

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<v Speaker 1>You think you've been sleep deprived because your flight's delayed?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, is that so? Because I tell you, jet lag

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<v Speaker 2>can really mess you up.

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<v Speaker 1>With jet lag, you see the end. You're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know at least when I get there, I can sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>But with a two-month-old, Yeah, oh, there's no sleep. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't actually know when you might get a full night's sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and it might be two years. Oh, God. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>know when the end is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have kids, obviously. You can tell. So, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not talking this up to me, right?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a huge difference. But when it's good, it's literally

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to explain.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And I guess you feel like you've actually contributed. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We've done something.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels so good in a really happily selfish way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, you're so amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm, shit, we did a good job.

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<v Speaker 2>How old are they? They're only like two years old.

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<v Speaker 2>They're two years old, yeah. They're going to be geniuses,

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<v Speaker 2>you can already tell, right?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel everyone thinks their own kid is the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>human to ever exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad you can see that, right? Because everyone also

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<v Speaker 2>thinks their kid is.

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<v Speaker 1>Beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be real. Some babies can be ugly.

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<v Speaker 3>You said it, Smallsy. No, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying it as the casual observer. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>It's weird how you said that after I showed you

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<v Speaker 3>my baby. But yeah, no, we've got two-year-olds. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a four-month-old as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm now on the double. We've doubled up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we've just written a song about it, actually.

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<v Speaker 2>This was it. I was going to dovetail into the

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<v Speaker 2>new song you've written about being dads, yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah. For the first time, it's probably the first

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<v Speaker 3>time we've brought in a super personal element of our

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<v Speaker 3>actual real life into our... It's not work, but you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. It's non.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like... Everything has kind of always had an element

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<v Speaker 1>of fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>In songwriting, for me at least. It's like never really

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<v Speaker 1>super specifically personal. But this one is like no fantasy elements,

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<v Speaker 1>no fiction. It's just like, yeah. This is life now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it felt really good to write.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a hard decision to come to to write

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<v Speaker 2>something so personal?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wrote the original idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's changed a decent amount since then. The guitar

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<v Speaker 1>completely changed. We've added lyrics, added sections.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just showed it to everyone in our like

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<v Speaker 1>group chat and everyone was like, sweet as, but Matt said,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, bro, obviously he's the other dad in

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<v Speaker 1>the group. The only dad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's like, bro. And then like a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>months passed and we were jamming and he's like, we

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<v Speaker 1>just have to, can we, can we try that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Can we try that one? Can we try it? He

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<v Speaker 1>was a pretty big advocate of finishing the song. So yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I don't know. It just felt really just

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<v Speaker 1>like a flow of, I was bawling my eyes out crying,

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<v Speaker 1>like writing the song.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Like super deep for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess. Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a sad song.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not sad.

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<v Speaker 3>I think parents will relate to it. It's just that

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<v Speaker 3>feeling of... Just so happy. You know, people try to

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<v Speaker 3>explain it all the time. There's no point even trying

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<v Speaker 3>to explain it. It's just overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 2>You're really making me feel like an empty vessel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you for that. I appreciate you. Cause you're

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<v Speaker 2>describing something I'm not going to experience. So on that note,

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<v Speaker 2>go fuck yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think I feel, I felt like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lyric. It was like, yeah, life starts to make

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<v Speaker 1>a little sense. It's like, oh shit. Like maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is actually what my whole purpose in life was to

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<v Speaker 1>do was to be. Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. Um, are we activating dad mode? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>in the, are we, have we, are we, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, do you hang your phone on your

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<v Speaker 2>belt now?

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's been dad modding for so much longer than me.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like just your general demeanor.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like just, you know, just, just shout at

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<v Speaker 2>the TV more than you used to.

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<v Speaker 3>Sit down more. We raise the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have one of those lazy boy couches? You

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<v Speaker 2>just go, Hey babe, get me a beer. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm at the point where I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to be purposefully active. Because I've only got a two-year-old.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that'll change when they're a teenager.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you trained them to get you snacks yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Or are they not walking? No, I'm full butler mode.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the one thing that is like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait, if I do have a kid, to train it. To, like,

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<v Speaker 2>take the bins out. Oh, you've got to optimize that thing. Oh, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm building up so much brownie points with her. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done everything for you for so long.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>The least you could do is take the bin out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and wash up and stack the dishwasher.

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<v Speaker 1>She loves helping, though. They just love to help, honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't consider a chore as a chore. Not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Not yet. But if you start them early, apparently, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just part of life.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. Later this year, you're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>jumping on tour with Robbie Williams. Are you looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to playing those shows?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, massively.

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<v Speaker 3>Two stadiums back home in New Zealand, so that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be mind-blowing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm pretty excited. It's like Robbie Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>What? How did you get the call for that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a group call with the whole band

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<v Speaker 1>and the manager. And our manager, he's like, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>just got the yes.

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<v Speaker 3>This has come across my desk. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 3>about opening for Robbie?

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<v Speaker 1>And then Matt was like, are you serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt's actually, yeah, he's a big advocate for all of

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<v Speaker 1>our successes. But everyone was like, oh yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt was like, what am I doing here? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>guys taking the purse? Of course, say yes. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>glad Matt has the energy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of the first one, first kind of big

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<v Speaker 3>slot since Christina Aguilera.

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<v Speaker 1>Since we saw you guys at the house shack.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's going to be cool. Christina Aguilera was a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Just for the record, it wasn't a shack.

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<v Speaker 1>No, sorry, sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a mansion.

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<v Speaker 1>Really nice.

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<v Speaker 3>You can call it that if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, literally since then we haven't. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 1>did the New Zealand 660 stuff during COVID was, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal in New Zealand. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>What's great about opening slots is that there's no real

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<v Speaker 3>pressure on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>We have 30 minutes to play. So we trim all

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<v Speaker 3>the fat. It's just the songs that we like playing

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<v Speaker 3>and people know, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And we can just go hard. I love that. And

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<v Speaker 3>then we're done, and then we get to watch a

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<v Speaker 3>world-class act afterwards. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes try and sneak in, eat some of his catering.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Treat yourself backstage.

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<v Speaker 1>The stadium catering is, I forget about it every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get there, and you're like, I forgot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. You leave with lamb shanks in your pocket. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>taking this home.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one time, are we talking about catering now? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got catering. There's one time there was this, I've

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<v Speaker 1>never eaten lobster before.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't really understand. Everyone's like, lobster's so fancy

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. I was like, okay, it tastes like fish.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was just, it was next level, dude. I've

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<v Speaker 1>definitely eaten some of the best food of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Backstage at a stadium tour? Some sort of, At some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of festival. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Well, I hope you get the lobster

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<v Speaker 2>you deserve with the Robbie tour. Congratulations on the new song.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's get you back in again, right?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Yeah, I would love to. Thanks for having us. Smallsy,

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