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Speaker 1: to have a particular focus on alcohol related offending, including assaults,

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Speaker 1: unlawful entries, as well as domestic and family violence. Now

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Speaker 1: joining me on the line to talk more about yesterday's

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Speaker 1: announcement is the Minister for Police, Brent Potter.

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Speaker 2: Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, good morning to you listening now Brent.

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Speaker 1: Fifty officers are going to be rostered on through Operation

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Speaker 1: Drena throughout the summer period in Alice.

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Speaker 2: Are these additional police officers.

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Speaker 3: So just to clarify, there will be no police officers

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Speaker 3: being taken from Darlin, ten Dallas. What they've done is

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Speaker 3: they've identified what they need to do general duty policing

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Speaker 3: and as I said on another station today, three general

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Speaker 3: Separate to that, they've found other officers in other areas

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Speaker 3: of policing, they've pulled them into Operation Drena and they

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Speaker 3: have and in this instance today another three cars on

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Speaker 2: So Minister, where are they actually coming from.

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Speaker 3: The Central Australia Desert region. So there is enough officers

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Speaker 3: is normal. As the Commissioner said yesterday in his press conference,

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Speaker 1: So some of those are going to be people that

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Speaker 3: No, so you will not have additional officers being added

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Speaker 3: There are other branches within our springs that have officers

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Speaker 1: So if we're able to find these efficiencies, what were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so let's use last Christmas as the example, because

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Speaker 3: I think that's where most people are drawing the marketing

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Speaker 3: But we've also said our number one priority of a

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Speaker 3: Some of them would have been on leave absolutely, and

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Speaker 3: So when you've got less leaves that you're holding over

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Speaker 1: So they're not new officers, they're just being redeployed.

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Speaker 3: They're being redeployed, that's correct. So they're being used from

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Speaker 1: I mean, Minister, is the government being tricky here though,

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Speaker 3: No, because they're fifty additional police on the front line

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Speaker 1: Why on earth wasn't this happening sooner, if the police

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Speaker 3: We know that Alice Springs is cycled. If we know that,

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Speaker 2: So what issues did we have overnight in Alice?

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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: But that kind of weapon is.

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Speaker 1: It's a terrible thing to be floating around with them

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, kay, But you know, this is what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: Oh listen, I'm not a Judgekatie Well. I would say

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Speaker 1: All right. We also know that along with Operation draina

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Speaker 3: Now, so the team and learner are the same team.

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Speaker 3: We're not taking them to Drina or Andy else. They

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Speaker 3: And like I said before, Kay, it all comes down

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Speaker 1: We spoke to counselor Mark Coffee on the show yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, Katie, I'm fully supportive of giving the

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Speaker 1: And I know that the people of Alice Springs are

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Speaker 3: Say this, When you put a condition in place, you

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Speaker 3: And listen, Katie so On, I understand this, semon Alice springs.

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Speaker 1: Minister, just a very quick one before I let you go.

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Speaker 1: Have you stopped the opposition from being allowed to enter

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to explain this, Katie so The only since

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Speaker 3: then it means we're not impacting on the front line.

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Speaker 3: And I mean it's probably been blown into a bit

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Speaker 3: of a story for the opposition because that's what they wanted.

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Speaker 3: But guess what, Katie, they still got their photo out

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Speaker 3: the front of the police station and then got to

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Speaker 3: write a negative press release saying I denied them the case.

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Speaker 1: So would you allow if they gave a week's notice?

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Speaker 1: Would you allow them?

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Speaker 3: Yep? Any station, yes, so any station that I've gone

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Speaker 3: to it. So I've got to go around and see

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Speaker 3: every station now, as the minuis. So I've committed to that.

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Speaker 3: If I've gone to a station already and they give

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Speaker 3: a week's notice. I've got no issue with having these

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Speaker 3: people go and talk to the front line. I'm not

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Speaker 3: playing politics and I said that to the union as well.

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Speaker 3: But this instance, Katie, two days notice was nowhere near

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Speaker 3: enough time. When I'm giving at least seven days to

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Speaker 3: the Commissioner.

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Speaker 1: Well Minister for Police, we are going to have to

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Speaker 1: leave it there. I appreciate your time this morning. Thanks

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Speaker 1: very much for having a chat with us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, and thanks you listening.

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Speaker 2: Thank you