1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast, Mini. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Well and Woody driving your home Ashed London, filling in 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: and list gave. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 3: Me a nice little in. Can I just say what 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: we're going to talk about with her? I'm coming now tonight. 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: I'm coming now tonight. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Rebel Wilson came out, but it turns out 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't really. 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 3: Her decision, was it? 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 2: Boys? 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: So if you don't know what I'm talking about, I'll 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: give you the kind of one minute over you yesterday 13 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Rebel Wilson on her Instagram. 14 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: So you thought I thought I was looking for Disney prince. 15 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: Turns out I was looking for a Disney princess her 16 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: and her new girlfriend. Awesome, But then the plot dickens 17 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: and we discover that the Sydney Morning Herald, namely the 18 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: gossip columnist, which really is his job, Like I'm not 19 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: being he is the gossip columnist. And Hornery had actually 20 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: emailed her to say, look, we're going to come out 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: with this story. You've got two days to give me 22 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: a comment, but we're a run with it. 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: But is so nasty from the horn dog? 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: Isn't he beyond it? 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: Nasty from the horn Dog? So in this situation. She's thinking, Okay, well, 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to own this story. I'm gonna 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: just make it my news because it is her news, 28 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: which is fine. I mean it's not fine, but she 29 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: did what she had to do. But then old mate 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: horn dog, but his nick is in a twist and 31 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: then puts his article out saying, not cool of her. 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: She gazumped our story. How could she do this? 33 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 4: So he had issue with the fact that she had 34 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 4: stolen his headline because he so in his mind, I'm 35 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: just trying to get inside the horn dog's head here, 36 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 4: very hard thing to get, very horny to get the 37 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 4: horn So the horn Dog's gone, right, that's my scoop. 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 4: That's going to be amazing for my career, except to 39 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: get this headline. So I'll message rebel to be like, 40 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 4: get your affairs in order, So this is what I 41 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: have a comment, right, And then because she gets on 42 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: her Instagram posts it, she has now stolen his headline. 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: He's great moment at works, so he's angry at her. Yeah, 44 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: that is it makes believable. 45 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: No sense. 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: And keep in mind he's a gay man. The editor 47 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: of the Sydney Morning Herald. His boss also a gay man. 48 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: So there was this huge Twitter storm, online storm. People 49 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,519 Speaker 1: were rightly really angry. That's kind of taken away this moment, 50 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: and after a day they didn't apologize, In fact that 51 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: they kind of doubled down on it, and their excuse 52 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: was pretty much saying, in this day and age, it 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: doesn't matter if she's dating a boy or a girl. 54 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: The story was she had a new partner, not that 55 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: she was gay. But I think we can all agree 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: there's a very big difference in Rebel Wilson having a 57 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: new partner who is a male and having a female 58 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: partner being queer. Now, I think the whole thing is absolute, 59 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: kind of really bs because we don't really live in 60 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: that world. And Tom, I want to bring you into 61 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: this because you are a queer man. 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm not imagining things, am I. It is a big 63 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: deal to do what they did. Yeah. 64 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean I came out to one of my best friends, 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: Ollie in when I was eighteen, and he kept that 66 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: secret for two years. And I couldn't imagine what it 67 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: would have been like if he had revealed that to 68 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 2: somebody else when I wasn't. 69 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: Ready, because it would have been like him on the 70 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: radio show being like mate, this is going to be 71 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 4: really good for radio. I'm giving you forty eight hours 72 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: that y like you can't do that? 73 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: No, of course not. 74 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: It's your own journey and you have to be ready 75 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: when you're ready to do it. So it's really horrible. 76 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel as a gay man 77 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: when you read stuff like this still happening in twenty 78 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: twenty two by I don't want to use mainstream media, but. 79 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: This is a huge masthead in Australia. How does it 80 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: make you feel? 81 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Well? 82 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: I kind of want to give the guy a benefit 83 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: of the doubt, hoping that he really did live in 84 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: this his own little world, thinking that we do live 85 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: in a world where it is okay to just reveal 86 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: that there's a partner that I do want to just 87 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: try and think like that, as I always like to 88 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: think the best of people, Tonic. We don't live in 89 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: a world where saying a celebrity is now you know, 90 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: has a different sexuality. We're not really there yet that 91 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: everyone's just fluid. 92 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: I hope we are. My son is an adult. I 93 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: hope that that's where we live in. 94 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think it's up to all of us, 95 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: especially news outlets, to treat this with respect so that 96 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: we can actually live in a world where we do 97 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: respect it, where it's not a big deal. 98 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: So you said it took you two years, So you 99 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: told your best mate and then took you two years 100 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: to like. 101 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we both lived with that life. 102 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: For two years. 103 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what what happened in that chin? 104 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: What was the totally yeah, yeah, what's a good mate? Yeah, 105 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: that's a. 106 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 4: Great So was the two years? 107 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 3: Then? 108 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 4: What's happening in that two years for you to ready 109 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 4: yourself to come out? Well? 110 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: I didn't come out until I did my coming out 111 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: to twenty twelve around the world, which is where I 112 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: went traveling. I went around the world and it became 113 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: more and more comfortable for me to tell people, so 114 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: you would literally see me kind of in different cities. 115 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: I tried dipping my foot in the gay the gay 116 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 2: world and say, you know, I'd meet people and go. 117 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Tom. Yeah, no, I like dudes. 118 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: Until it became a point where I was like, oh, 119 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: this is so easy. Nobody really treats me any different. 120 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 3: I've done every other country I can do. 121 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: With here more of the boys on the Full Show podcast. 122 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: You know you want to