1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: On today's show, Sky Wheatley's bizarre meltdown over pr packages 2 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: as she binds as horrendous inflight Ordeal, and Pixie Curtis's 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: latest beauty treatment sparks Debate. 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: news twice a week. I'm Kate Torbert and we're a 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: little late recording because I just received a link to 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: my wedding video and we've literally been watching on repeat 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: for the last twenty minutes. 10 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: Oh, the video is epic. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: It's such a little taste of the day, though I 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: kind of want to see more, and you've actually emailed 13 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: your videographer asking can I pay a bit more to 14 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: get like a thirty minute feature? 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 3: Feel? 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, it went so quickly, It's a three and a 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: half minute video, but now I'm like I should have 18 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: paid the extra cash for the thirty minutes, and I 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: sof and I immediately started looking into the videography packages 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: that we've booked, and we've been like, I'm actually going. 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: To pay extra just to get more content. 22 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: Could you ask for like just a Kate edit a 23 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: bit like the Olivia Not because obviously you've got a 24 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: divorce or anything. 25 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: But I want to see more of us getting ready 26 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 2: in the morning. So you want the bridesmaid edit the 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: bridesmaid Yes. 28 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: I was pretty proud, Sophie that some of our zingers 29 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: made the highlight our speeches dominated that I thought. Now, 30 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: dating triplets is very unique. Our loyalties to one another 31 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: changed by the hour, if not the minute. One minute, 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: we're all best friends, next minute, two of us have 33 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: ganged up on each other. All very confusing and very 34 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: difficult for our partners to keep up with. 35 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 2: We also have no secrets. 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: Before we met Reese, we knew everything about him, not 37 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: anything over the top, just the important things like blood type, 38 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: passport number, every girl you've every girl you've ever spoken to, 39 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: his name. Basically, what we're saying is you're not just 40 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: stuck with Kate Reese, you're also duck with us down. 41 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: I definitely will be sharing it on social media if 42 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: anyone's keen to check it out. Now, Amy, you've got 43 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: a wedding update too. Yeah, So last night Dale and 44 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: I went to a tasting along with Dale's mum and 45 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: Poppy and also my parents, and so we've got an 46 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: external caterer doing all of the food, and we've been 47 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: having this debate about whether we can serve pasta as 48 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: a Maine dish. 49 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: I actually put it up on the Outspoken. 50 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Instagram account and everyone was saying, yes, do pasta as 51 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: one of the mains. Everyone seems to be sick of 52 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: the steak and chicken. But now after tasting all the dishes, 53 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm more confused than ever. 54 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: What did the parents think? Well, we so we tried. 55 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 2: Last night. 56 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: We had fish, we had pasta, we had chicken. We 57 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: also had this like cheesy pasta that I feel like 58 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: Sophie would love. Oh when I saw it because you 59 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: shared it on your Instagram story, because I was like, 60 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: because I can't be there, I want to live through you. 61 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: And both pasta dishes looked insane. Well, my personal favorite 62 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: was the crab pasta, and I was thinking I would 63 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: be so excited for this to come out. My only 64 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: worry was it had a lot of like parsley on 65 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: the top, so someone will have to make sure I 66 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: don't get any of my teeth. Well, the funniest thing 67 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: was I was asking all of the parents after like 68 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: what did you think? What's your favorite? And Dad's like, 69 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: I really liked the chicken, but I didn't like the 70 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: corn flame on the top, so they've done like this 71 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: fancy crispy sweet potato. I'm like, dad, that is not 72 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: corn for me. Well, he thought the pesto at my 73 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: wedding tasting was avocado, and I'm like, geez, those cigarettes 74 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: have really ruined your taste. But you wouldn't even try 75 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: the Kingfish because it had like this green sort of 76 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: sauce on the side. He said it was too green 77 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: for him. Oh my god, well that one's been crossed off. Well, 78 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: just to round things up on the wedding updates, I 79 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: have officially locked in my dress or what does it 80 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: look like this? This is so exciting because Sophie, you 81 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: have been so indecisive. 82 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: I have been so stressed. 83 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: I've been spending all my nights on TikTok and also 84 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: Instagram just looking at other dresses, going back to the 85 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: dresses that I screenshot when I first got engaged, because 86 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: the dress I have locked in is very different to 87 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: what I thought. 88 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: I would get. 89 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've been going on about this dress I 90 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: think for a while. Now you're actually making me go 91 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: crazy because you keep texting me these random messages about it. 92 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: It's like, you want all this reassurance. 93 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: Do you not know me that I need reassurance all 94 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: the time. And the whole thing is I had literally 95 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: contacted the wedding boutique. He said, oh yeah, I'm ready 96 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: to lock it in. Let's lock in another appointment. And 97 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: then this brand from Melbourne Kaya Studio, which I've been 98 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: wanting to try on for ages. It then came up 99 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: that they were going to be appearing at this Adelaide 100 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: boutique and I was like, is this a sign that 101 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm getting the anyway? So it's been an internal battle 102 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: because they're not bringing the dresses in for a number 103 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: of weeks and I really need to lock things down. 104 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Do you know what it reminds me of. 105 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: It's almost like you're online dating, like you're on Tinder 106 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: or hinge, and you're like flicking through all these dresses. 107 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: You almost need to stop and go, Okay, I've chosen 108 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: my person, which is your dress, and I'm not gonna 109 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: look anymore. I've seen this on TikTok because a lot 110 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: of brides say that you have to lock the dress 111 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: in so far in advance that you're sort of bored 112 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: of your dress even though you haven't worn it yet, 113 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: because you've seen all these photos of yourself in it, 114 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: and there's so many new options popping up. They've just 115 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: dropped so many new collections. You definitely do end up 116 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: second guessing it though, so know that when you actually 117 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: pay for the deposit, you will have that feeling of regret, 118 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: but it does go away also because you can't try 119 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: it on in your right size, and I think it's 120 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: really hard when you're looking back at photos it's the 121 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: wrong size. 122 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: See. 123 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm so jealous because I would be so relieved if 124 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: I'd locked in, and I don't even care, like I 125 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: would just not be looking. I feel like any white 126 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: dress is going to look amazing when you've got the 127 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: right hair, the make up, the flowers. 128 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 2: They're all looking the same to me. 129 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: At the moment, I actually have decided I don't like 130 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: wedding dresses and I want to wi the one that's 131 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: into fashion more than you guys ould say. And I 132 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: think the other dresses look nice. Of the wedding dresses, 133 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: I think we need to hold an intervention. Though Amy 134 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: needs to get her wedding dress locked in. You actually 135 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: need to go and visit a store. 136 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 4: No. 137 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I've. 138 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: Visited some stores, but one see the issue is I 139 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: see these dresses that I really really like in the photos, 140 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: and then I go onto that still white page where 141 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: people post like they're trying to resell their dresses to 142 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: see what, you know, people actually look like in normal 143 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: photos of the dresses. They all look so different. That's 144 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: why you need to try them on. 145 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 2: I actually saw a. 146 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: Bridle store share about this exact thing and say, don't 147 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: look at the model and other people in them, because 148 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: you were going to look so different in it yourself. 149 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but some of the fabrics just look different. 150 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to jump. 151 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: On and talk to you guys about business and just 152 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: kind of show you the reality of it. 153 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has called out her fellow influences for not 154 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: supporting her ath leisure brand. The former Big Brother contestant 155 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: broke down as she revealed she could no longer afford 156 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: to send out freebies because her business isn't yet profitable. 157 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: So can you tell us more? Yeah? 158 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: So. 159 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: On Monday night, Sky got emotional as she opened up 160 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: about the reality of owning a business on her Instagram story. 161 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: She choked back tears as she revealed her ath leisure 162 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: brand Good People Apparel, is financially struggling. Let's throw to 163 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: what she said, even for. 164 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: Me, being an influencer or someone with an audience, it's 165 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 5: fucking hard. And like from the outside looking in, you 166 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 5: might think, oh my god, they're making millions and millions 167 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 5: of dollars, like they're so successful. 168 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 6: And yes, I'm talking about GPA, the people of Perrel, 169 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 6: Like I get that people like look at the brand 170 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 6: and go, they're so successful, like they'd be swimming. 171 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 5: In cash and we're over here like, yeah, we actually 172 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 5: just trying to make money to pay for our ext drop, 173 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 5: like it all goes back into the business. 174 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: And that's not why I'm getting upset. 175 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: So after that, Sky took aim at the influencers that 176 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: she gifted track suits too, and said she felt sick 177 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: to her stomach that they hadn't posted about them. She 178 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: went on to share that she had been reprimanded by 179 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: her business partner Tory, for giving away too many free 180 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: track suits, and that they could no longer afford to 181 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: gift any more. Now. Sky got really emotional as she 182 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: explained she would no longer be able to give her 183 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: family and friends free tracksuits. Let's throw to what she said. 184 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 5: So, yeah, now I'm gonna have to tell the people 185 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 5: that I've said, yeah, send your tracksuit. 186 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 3: Actually sorry, We've already. 187 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 5: Spent like twenty k in sending pr packages out to 188 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: people that don't post because they don't appreciate the product. 189 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 5: And I get it, Like being an influencer, you get paid, 190 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 5: you know. 191 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 3: But like since having. 192 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 5: My own brand, I like promise myself that I will 193 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 5: make an effort to always just like pop something on 194 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 5: my story, even if it's just like an unboxing or 195 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: like a flat lay of the products, just like to 196 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 5: give some recognition that like you've got it, Like thanks, 197 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 5: I've got your product. Like I just know how hard 198 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 5: it is for businesses and how much money you're actually 199 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: losing by sending out And I've. 200 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 3: Been guilty of this of the past. 201 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 5: Also, like getting so many packages, it's overwhelming for the influencer. 202 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: Like I get it, I understand. 203 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: I don't know, guys, it's just fucked and like I 204 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 5: have a feeling I don't know, and just getting really emotional. 205 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: Now there is a lot to unpack in this twelve 206 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: minute rant. It was full of contradictions. The first contradiction 207 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: I want to start with is the fact that Sky 208 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: claimed that her brand was financially struggling, but then later 209 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: said that she expected the latest clothing drop to be 210 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: so popular that she's worried it will sell out and 211 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: people will be left disappointed. Which one is it? And 212 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: if that's the case, why was she getting so upset 213 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: over influencers not posting about her tracksuits? Surely the ultimate 214 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: aims to sell out of the product. Is she really 215 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: that upset she couldn't give her family and friends a 216 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: free tracksuit? I can see why she'd be annoyed if 217 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: you're sending out twenty thousand dollars worth of product and 218 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: nobody's sharing anything about it. But the thing is, even 219 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: if they don't post about it now, they're still going 220 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: to wear it. It's still a branding exercise. Sometimes you 221 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: can't just expect people to post about it and instantly 222 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: get sales from those posts. 223 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand. 224 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you just put this down to a learning She's 225 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: now realized that she can sell out with just the 226 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: help of her own personal audience and then doesn't have 227 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: to use in influencer marketing. Do you think influencers are 228 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: now more unwilling to share about different brands because they 229 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: don't want it to go to their tax return. 230 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: I definitely do. 231 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: I also think that she was more personally offended because 232 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: she probably thinks she's friends with a lot of these people, 233 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: and that's why she was so emotional about it. What 234 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe is that she slammed the influencers for 235 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: not posting about the tracksuits, but then in the next 236 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: breath said that brands should pay influencers because it will 237 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: guarantee that they post about their product. Was that more 238 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: of something that she'd learned that she wanted to share 239 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: with people? What do you mean she's learned it like 240 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Sky of all people should see the worth of paying 241 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: influencers for their time and access to their audience. I mean, 242 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: the whole thing baffles me because she clearly understands how 243 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: influencer marketing works, because she has worked as an influencer 244 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: for many years. She has got her platform to a 245 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: stage where people pay her for a post. They don't 246 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: just give her free products. Wouldn't you think that she 247 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: would give her peers in the influencing industry the same 248 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: respect and pay them to promote her product. The thing 249 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: that's clear is there's not much of a strategy going on. 250 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: She is clearly haphazardly saying, I'm going to give you 251 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: a track so I'll give you a track suit. She's 252 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: trying to keep everyone in her circle happy, and also 253 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: I suppose her friendship group of influencers, and she's clearly 254 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: frustrated when they're not giving anything back in return. I 255 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: think what we've learned from our deep dive series into 256 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley is that she constantly contradicts herself. So I 257 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: think she jumps on these stories and while she's talking, 258 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: she suddenly starts seeing the other point of view. She 259 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: must have set out quite a few tracksuits to send 260 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: out twenty thousand dollars. I think it's a postage that 261 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: is costing her a lot of money. I was also 262 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: surprised though, when she said that, oh, people would assume 263 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: that my business is making millions of dollars and it's 264 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: hugely successful. I don't know about you guys, or anyone listening, 265 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: but I just assumed it was a little startup. I 266 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: didn't automatically assume that just because she's an influencer with 267 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: a business that it was hugely successful because particularly because 268 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: it is a leisure brand. The thing is, I think 269 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: she's almost calling out her own internal thoughts, because I 270 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: feel like she probably thought starting up her own at 271 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: leisure where brand was going to be easy. 272 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: She was just going to get a lot of money. 273 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: She's probably seen the likes of Tammy Hembro put her 274 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: nim On apparel company and everything sells out. I think 275 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: probably what she's saying, though, is that she's not like 276 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: a Nike or a gym Shark, where it doesn't matter 277 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: if influencers don't share about the products. 278 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: Almost like she's guilt tripping the influences. 279 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Now that annoys me, and she's like, oh, even me 280 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: being an influencer, I find it hard too. It's like 281 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: I think she just assumed that because she's an influencer, 282 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: everything should be easy and her influencer mates should promote 283 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: her brand. It's like, no, why should they? They should 284 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: be paid to promote They've created their own audience. We 285 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: have seen a lot of Sammy Robinson's influencer friends like 286 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: Steph klas Smith and Jadu Tunti all sharing about Sammy's 287 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: brand one Mile, presumably for free. So I can kind 288 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: of see how Sky could have thought that might happen. 289 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: But maybe she's not as close with these people as 290 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: she as other influencers are, and I think that is 291 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: the very reason why she got so upset. Do you 292 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: also think that because of all of Sky Wheatley's controvert 293 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: and indiscretions, that influencers don't want to share about her 294 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: brand because they don't want to be connected to her. Yeah, 295 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: I think that could be a big part of it. Now, 296 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: what made things even more awkward is a few hours 297 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: after Sky's Instagram rand Indy Clinton shared a selfie of 298 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: her wearing a Good People Apparel track. So this was 299 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: so awkward, so Indy caption the photo thank you Good 300 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: People Apparel, so comfy and great quality, hashtag gift now. Ironically, 301 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: she then shared the following statement to her Instagram story, 302 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: which read, I've sadly had to take my po box 303 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: addressed down. A lot of brands were hounding me when 304 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: they would gift me something, and I didn't post on 305 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: my stories even though it's the gamble they take, I 306 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: unfortunately cannot post everything I receive. Please don't send me something. 307 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: Hope that I post and then get annoyed if I 308 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: don't post. I appreciate you wanting to send me things, 309 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: but save your money on postage. It's quite clear Indy 310 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: was referencing Sky, but it appears it's gone over Sky's 311 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: head because a follow asked her if she thinks Indy's 312 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: comments were directed at her, to which Sky replied, I 313 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: don't think so. She's my friend. I'm with her one 314 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: hundred percent. It is hard when brands expect you to 315 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: post for free, like we're also running a business. 316 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: Again, a major contradiction. 317 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: See I think what's happened here is India's jumped onto 318 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Instagram story. She's seen Sky's rant and she's thought, fuck, 319 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: I promised to share about that weeks ago. She's put 320 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: up the post, and then she's wanted to reiterate to 321 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: other brands. Sorry, just because I'm sharing for Sky, it 322 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm going to share for you. But what 323 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: I don't get is couldn't Indy see how transparent that was? 324 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's almost ruder to then 325 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: put that up, but why not wait a week or something? 326 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,479 Speaker 2: She probably doesn't. 327 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: Think that everyone who follows her is across the sky 328 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Wheatly stuff well, it was definitely being covered by all 329 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: the big influencer accounts, so I'd be surprised if she 330 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: didn't know about it. I almost think that it was 331 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: her way of having a little bit of a go, like, yeah, 332 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: I posted it, but don't expect me to do it again. 333 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 4: Hey guy, So I just went to Meka today in 334 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: Double Bay, and I'm gonna. 335 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 3: Show you what I got. 336 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: Roxy Jazenko's eleven year old daughter, Pixie Curtis, has caused 337 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: a stir after revealing she got an eyelash lift and tint. 338 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: The redheaded twein, who recently announced her retirement from her 339 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: toy company at the tender age of eleven, shared a 340 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: reel of the beauty treatment to her one hundred and 341 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: thirty six thousand followers. Kate, I was so surprised to 342 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: see this. 343 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: Real pop up. 344 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw and instantly sent it to you because 345 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. I'm thirty four and I've never 346 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: had a lash lift. So on Instagram, Pixie caption the 347 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: real redhair means no lashes till now. Thank you Fancy 348 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: Lash for my lash lift and tint. Her mum, Roxy 349 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: also shared an update on her insta story writing. How 350 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: the tables have turned Now I am Pixie Curtis's content 351 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: creator too at Fancy lash Today. Yeah, and it's quite 352 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: interesting because Roxy actually did a paid partnership with the 353 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: lash Bar earlier in the month. Now it seems like 354 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: as she's taking a bit of a step back from 355 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: Sweaty Betty and a lot of her businesses, it seems 356 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: like she's got a lot more time to spend with 357 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: her kids and return the favorite because I feel like 358 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: Pixie I would have recorded a fair amount of content 359 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: for Roxy back in the day. Yeah, I actually would 360 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: love Pixie Curtis to shoot a reel for me, though, 361 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: I feel like she'd be on point. You might not agree, 362 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: but I think she's the epitome of cool. I love 363 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: checking out her page because I feel like she knows 364 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: what is on trend, what is going to be the 365 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: next big thing. Look, I'm not really checking an eleven 366 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: year old's page as a thirty four year old or 367 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: for style advice. 368 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: I'm not saying style advice. 369 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: She's not a regular eleven year old, But I'm talking 370 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: about trends because I love speaking to young people about 371 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: what they're interested in. Well, Zo vih You're not the 372 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: only adult that is checking out Pixie Curtis's page, and 373 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't mean that in a creepy way. There was 374 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: a debate in the comment section on pixies Reel. One 375 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: person wrote, really too young for this? What's next botox 376 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: and lippiller's what a joke? Another added lipfiller next. Someone 377 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: else wrote, no, come on, mum and dad, there's plenty 378 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: of time for that. 379 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: You are creating the monster. Well. 380 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: Fellow redheads did emerge in the comment section to defend 381 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: Pixie's treatment. One wrote, as a fellow Ginger, I highly 382 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: support this, said as a Ginger who started doing this 383 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: as a kid in the early nineties, Good on you. 384 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: Ignore the negative comments and keep doing what makes you 385 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: feel good about you. Someone else added the amount of 386 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: adults that are here arguing on a child's account is gross. 387 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: You do what makes you happy, Pixie. 388 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: I might not be a. 389 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: Parent yet, but I kind of get where Roxy is 390 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: coming from with this. I think getting your eyelashes tinted 391 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: is very different to going out and allowing your child 392 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: to have lip injections or some sort. 393 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: Of cosmetic treatment. 394 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: I think that there is a lot of sensitivity particularly 395 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: at this age when kids are going into adolescence and 396 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: a lot of redheads do feel self conscious about having 397 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: light lighter features. Yeah, but does she have to be 398 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: sharing online? 399 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: I think that's. 400 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Probably what a lot of people have an issue with 401 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: because I would assume that a lot of her audience 402 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: would be potentially eleven year olds or other tweens and 403 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: thirty four year olds and thirty four year olds. Yeah, 404 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: that might be thinking, well, maybe I need to go 405 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: and get all this stuff done as well, and also 406 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: what's next. We have to remember that at this age, 407 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: anything that is different about you is heavily scrutinized. I 408 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: remember as a kid getting paid out for having freckles, 409 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: and that's one of my biggest hang ups now. So 410 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: I think if she's in a position where she can 411 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: do something small like that, that's going to make her 412 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: feel better about herself and isn't drastic. 413 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: I don't think there's an issue with it. 414 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: Look, I can understand why people are a bit uncomfortable 415 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: about it, because it is very sad that an eleven 416 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: year old feels the need to change her eyelash color. 417 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: But we do need to remember she's not a normal 418 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: eleven year old. She has over one hundred and thirty 419 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: six thousand followers, and people are absolutely brutal online. Perhaps 420 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: people have been commenting on her eyelashes, but we do 421 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 1: need to remember she's not a normal eleven year old. 422 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: She's got one hundred and thirty six thousand followers. People 423 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: are absolutely brutal online. She's a millionaire in her own right. 424 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean, she retired when she was eleven years old. 425 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: This is not normal behavior. But what's that got to 426 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: do with anything. I think the issue, as I said, 427 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: is that people feel uncomfortable that she's promoting this sort 428 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: of thing online. I was not that uncomfortable that she 429 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: was allowed to do it, and I don't care that 430 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: she's had it done. And I can see, as you said, 431 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: if there's something that you're insecure about, go and get 432 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: it done. I think it's promoting it to others, and 433 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: she's making money off promoting it to a young audience. 434 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: She didn't mark it as a paid partnership. I think 435 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: people are just putting two and two together. I think 436 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: you're off the mark there though. I think this is 437 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: mum shaming for Roxy. I think people are like, oh, 438 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: how could a mum let her alone. 439 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: One year old do this. It's definitely mum shaming as well. 440 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: We've got to look at the broader picture, though. I 441 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: think that more young kids are interested in these beauty 442 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: routines and beauty products because they're not consuming advertising in 443 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: the same way that we did growing up. So whilst 444 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: we may have seen an advert on TV or in 445 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: a magazine, they are now seeing all of these treatments 446 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: advertised on TikTok and it's becoming more within their reach 447 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: to do these things. Well. 448 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 2: I am a sucker for a Pixie Curtis story. 449 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Last year, we discussed how her birthday party costs forty 450 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and during research for this topic, I stumbled 451 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: across her daytime routine, which I found very amusing. Is 452 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: this her beauty routine or this is just what happens 453 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: in her day? Pretty envious for my former eleven year 454 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: old self because she's allowed to stay up to eleven PM. 455 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: I remember mom and Dad used to make us go 456 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: to bed at like eight thirty in Urra. Is that 457 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: sort of a rule that you know you're eleven so 458 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: you can stayt to eleven PM? I'm not sure, but 459 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I think it has something to do with her skincare routine, 460 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: because she has a very strict nighttime regime that involves 461 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: a vitamin C facial wash and a sleeping mask. Imagine 462 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: how good her skin is going to look when she's thirty. 463 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 2: So Pixie said. 464 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: She also washes and blow dries her hair every day 465 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: using the Mermaid Hair blow dry brush HASHAG sponsors. Yeah, 466 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: she is an ambassador for the brand, so I love 467 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: how she snuck that in. What a perfect brand ambassador. 468 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: In terms of other beauty treatments, she spray tands with 469 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: her mum on a Thursday night if she has a 470 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: special occasion, but hides it from her dad because apparently 471 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: he'd freak out if he knew. How does he not 472 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: notice that his eleven year old has a dan? Well, 473 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: it might be because her dad is now working between 474 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: Tasmania and Singapore. So recently, Roxy made big news when 475 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: she sold her mansion for sixteen million dollars. Now it's 476 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: quite hard to read this because she only bought it 477 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: for six point five million dollars back in twenty eighteen. Yeah. Well, 478 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: we've seen all of the property prices climb for some reason, 479 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: because I have been watching lux listings sixteen meal didn't 480 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: actually sound like that much. I mean, obviously it is 481 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: an extreme number, but on that show you were seeing 482 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: twenty million dollar house series. If I'm saying this house 483 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: is incredible, I'm surprised it didn't sell for more. 484 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: Is this because. 485 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: Pixie's gone and bought the family a new home with 486 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: all of these business bedrooms? No, so she is going 487 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: from a five bedroom, five bathroom mansion which had this 488 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: epic beauty room, had a cinema, It also had a sauna. 489 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: They're now moving to an apartment because so a lot 490 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: of people thought that Roxy and Oliver had broken up, 491 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: but she has put an end to those rumors. She said, 492 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: it's just purely because Oliver's working in Singapore and Tasmania 493 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: and they needed somewhere smaller just for the three of them. Really, 494 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: I mean you're saying an apartment. I'm sure it's some 495 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: epic penthouse. 496 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: The whole flight, Taj and I were just spewing, like 497 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: on and off the whole time, probably like every twenty minutes. 498 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: Fitness influencer as She Binds has gone into explicit detail 499 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: about her horrendous ordeal aboard a jet Star flight. The 500 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: thirty four year old who's been holidaying in Bali, revealed 501 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: she spent the whole flight vomiting. The mum of two 502 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: came under fire from passengers who said she was too 503 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: sick to travel now. So if this sounds like an 504 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: absolute nightmare situation you just about everybody involved. Oh my goodness, 505 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: imagine being on this flight. So to take you back, 506 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: as she Bines had just spent a week in Bali 507 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: with her husband and two kids at a private viela, 508 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: it looked like the perfect family holiday, but things quickly 509 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: turned into a nightmare when Bali belly kicked in now 510 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: as she relayed the scary ordeal on her Instagram story, 511 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: explaining she vomited a few times at the airport before 512 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: collapsing as she boarded her jet Star flight. 513 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: Here's what she said. 514 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: I've spewed a couple of times in the toilets at 515 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 4: the airport, and I think it must have been something 516 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 4: we all ate at breakfast a couple of I was like, no, 517 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: it's not enough to knock me out. 518 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: I'll be okay. 519 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: And then as I stepped onto the plane, I handed 520 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 4: the tickets over and I literally fainted. 521 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 3: I fully collapsed like a grab Seve's hand. 522 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 4: He was holding Tala, and then he caught me just 523 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 4: in time for me to like, Thankfully I didn't fall 524 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: back and smack my head. He caught me. I don't 525 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 4: know how long I was out for. 526 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 3: It was horrific. It was so so tough. 527 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 4: Was the toughest slide I've ever had. 528 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: Now, as she went into explicit detail, too much detail, 529 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: probably revealing that she and her son Taj were vomiting 530 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: every twenty minutes, she said at one stage she was 531 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: holding Taj's vomit bag while she was vomiting into her own, 532 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: and understandably, her son was incredibly distressed. He was bawling 533 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: his eyes out and very over the situation. Now, her 534 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: husband Steve was sitting the row behind them with their 535 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: baby Tala, And it did make me laugh because she 536 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: mentioned in her Instagram story that a lovely man behind them. 537 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 1: He moved seats so that they could have access to 538 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: the bassinet. And I just think this guy was trying 539 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: to get as far away from them as possible. 540 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: God, I would be this would be horrible. 541 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: Imagine being on a flight home from Balley. It's already 542 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: a bit seedy because there's always the party goers that 543 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: are hungover, and there's this family just spewing their guts 544 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: up for ages. 545 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. 546 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: Steve wasn't feeling sick at the airport, and it wasn't 547 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: until he put Tala in the basinet that he also 548 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: started vomiting, so they were all going down. 549 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: This story is. 550 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: So appalling that it's actually made national news, with a 551 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: passenger by the name of James Foley telling Yahoo News 552 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: it's the worst flight he's ever been on and the 553 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: odor from the vomiting was disgusting. James explained that he 554 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: couldn't eat or rest as the vomiting was non stop 555 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: during the flight. He did say it wasn't just Ashy 556 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 1: and her family, but multiple people on the plane were unwell. 557 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: He finished by saying that staff should not have allowed 558 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: sick passengers to. 559 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 2: Board the plane. 560 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: That's a really interesting ethical dilemma because as she did 561 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: state that she was vomiting in the toilets before the flight, 562 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: so she clearly was aware before she boarded the plane 563 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: that she wasn't feeling well. Do you guys think it 564 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: is a dick move to inflict that on the rest 565 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: of the flight, or would you do the same. It's 566 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: a difficult one because it would be hard to then 567 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: catch another. 568 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 2: It's like an international. 569 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: Flight, particularly kids, and particularly because Ballei belly is so prevalent. 570 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: I've had so many friends who have said that their 571 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: barley belly has hit as soon as they've got on 572 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: the flight, and it's hell on her. Also, if you 573 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: vomited a couple of times, you might think, oh, it's 574 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: just passing. And also clearly other people were sick on 575 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: the plane too, if I think about it, and I 576 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: was having, say, severe diarrhea or something, So this is 577 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry for people listening if you're having your breakfast. 578 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: But I probably wouldn't feel safe to sit on the 579 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: flight because you wouldn't be able to go to the 580 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: toilet whenever you wanted, So in that case I probably 581 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: would go shit, I don't think I can actually. 582 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: Go on this flight. 583 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: I do feel like the jet Star staff probably should 584 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: have stepped in, particularly if she's like fainting as she's 585 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: getting old, they. 586 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: Surely had to red flag this person should not be traveling. 587 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: I'd be so pissed off if you were sitting next 588 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: to her, like how revolting you're trying to choke down 589 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: your two minute noodles that they give you on jet Star. Well, 590 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: Jetstar was forced to put out an official response. They 591 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: told news dot com dot Au that they were sorry 592 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: to hear that customers were unwell and acknowledged that it 593 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: would have been an unpleasant experience for others sitting next 594 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: to them sit The representative said customers who were too 595 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: sick to fly should contact us before traveling or speak 596 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: to our crew so we can help with their booking 597 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: and consider alternate travel arrangements. They also said they would 598 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: be reaching out to Ashy and Steve, as well as 599 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: the crew on board to better understand what actually happened now. 600 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: This somewhat quiet family vaka before this ordeal wasn't without 601 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: its controversy. So whilst in Bali, Ash shared a reel 602 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: showing her family posing together in their private villa and 603 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: over the top of the reel, Ash wrote, when you 604 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: realize being rich is having what money can't buy. Now, 605 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 1: many followers thought that this reel missed the mark, having 606 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: it as tone deaf due to the current cost of 607 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: living crisis that many Australians are finding themselves in. 608 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: It also hit a nerve with. 609 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: Followers, as Ash had previously been sharing about hiring a 610 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: private photographer and also a nanny while staying in a 611 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: luxury villa. However, on the other hand, many said that 612 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: having a nanny and a photographer in Bali isn't actually 613 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: a sign of wealth because both options are relatively affordable 614 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: over there now. One follower shared an interesting comment. They wrote, 615 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: money helps to be able to go away and to 616 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: make some memories. Sometimes a house overhead and food on 617 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: the table is a memory. 618 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: Now listeners may not. 619 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Realize that Ash and her family were actually homeless for 620 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: a period of time when she was growing up. As 621 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: She responded to the comment saying, I have fond memories 622 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: of when we were homeless, but Mum still makes it 623 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: fun and an adventure. She continued, make the most of 624 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: whatever season you're in. Money doesn't buy happiness, neither does 625 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: a vacation. Hence my caption of realizing being rich can't 626 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: buy love. But yes, we do love a holiday, and 627 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: I've worked extremely hard to create a life where we can. Now, 628 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Do you think the real 629 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: missed the mark? I think that the real was confusing 630 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: if it was a video of her and a family 631 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: at home. I don't think it would have become as 632 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: muddled the objects of you standing in front of this 633 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: luxury villa whilst on a holiday. It doesn't really match 634 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: up with the messaging because when I first saw this 635 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: video I had to read it a few times to 636 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: understand what she was sort of getting at because they looked. 637 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: So privileged and rich in the video. 638 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're saying, look at me with all 639 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: my assets. I'm so wealthy, but I'm also wealthy because 640 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: of my amazing family. Yeah, I've got it all and 641 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: rich and rich because of my family. And it's also 642 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with the timing. I think that people are really 643 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: struggling at the moment and they don't want to be 644 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: seeing this wealthy influencer saying. 645 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: Don't worry. At the end of the day, love is 646 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: all you need. 647 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have made more sense if she was 648 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: maybe filmed a real of her vomiting on the plane 649 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: and holding her son's vomit bag and saying, oh, you know, 650 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm still happy even though this shit situation's going on. 651 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: I think that is all we have time for today. 652 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us now. 653 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: If you do want to listen to more content, you 654 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: should check out our Deep Dive series on sky Wheatly, 655 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: all three episodes have dropped on Outspoken Plus, so if 656 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: you're not a subscriber yet, it's a great time to 657 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: join up because you can binge that deep dive And 658 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: this episode was recorded on the traditional land of the 659 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. 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