1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: This is jam Nation with Jonesy. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: What's th realed to be speaking with our next guest. 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Thirty years ago he changed the face of Australian country 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: music forever, and he's back with a part concert, a 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: part road movie, celebrating his life with stacks of albums, awards. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: And a remarkable legacy behind him. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: It's a delight to say hello to the boy from 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: the bush Ley Kernigan Highmanda Jonesy with you. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 3: Great to have you mate. We're zooming in on Kernighan 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 3: Headquarters there. This is your office. What a great office. 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 4: Well, I've got a little studio here and I've written 13 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 4: a lot of songs over the years, so sort of 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 4: sort of all happens. 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 3: I thought it might be a little bit more rustic. 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: There'd be like a set of steel horns or something 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 3: like that, or is that a bit cliched. 18 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: I got a place up in the bush, up in 19 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: the hills where I do get all of that rustic 20 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 4: stuff out of my system. 21 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: And here you've got a flushing toilet. So that's the 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: main thing. 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: This movie looks incredible and it's also a love story, 24 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: isn't it. To the Australian out back and to the 25 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: characters you've met through your life that have inspired your songs. 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I said to Kris Standers, who directed the movie, 27 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 4: I said, mate, I'd love to be involved in Universal 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: Pictures sort of contacted us back in twenty twenty one 29 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 4: and I said, but I really like this movie to 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 4: be about Australia, about the towns and the people that 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 4: inspired the songs, because I think I'm a bit too 32 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: boring to make a movie just about me. So anyway, 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: he sort of ran with that, and I was really 34 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: really happy with the way it came out. 35 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: What are some of the characters or who are some 36 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: of the characters that have just stayed with you that 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: you've met through your incredible travels around the country. 38 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: Well, there's one fella that is actually in the movie. 39 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 4: His name is Troy Hofmeyer. And I wrote a song 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: called Texas QLD four three eight five about the little 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 4: Queensland border town, and Troy Hofmeier loved the song so 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: much he actually moved to the town and he bought 43 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: Ford's General Store and he's still there today, living in. 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: Texas because of that song. 45 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: Because of that song, So in the movie, I've sort 46 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 4: of dropped in on Troy and visit his general store 47 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: and he's kind of got a shrine of all of 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: these awards and memorabilia out there at the service station 49 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: in General. And then we headed out to We headed 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: out to the banks of the Demerick River just outside 51 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 4: of Texas and I joined a Zaiah Firebrace and Mitch Tambo, 52 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 4: two great indigenous starts, a lot of reform. We did 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: some songwriting out there and sat around a campfire. Mitch 54 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 4: was playing the didgeridoo. It was just magic. We had 55 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: a smoking ceremony. It just incredible. 56 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: What's your when you there's one town in Australia that 57 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 3: you would just love to live in for the rest 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: of your life, other than the one you're currently living in. 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 3: What would it be? 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: Oh? Maybe Ineloquent. 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: Muster, That's it. 62 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: And every year you get about twenty thousand loving legends 63 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 4: arriving into that town and it's no holes barred party time. 64 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: So it's one of my favorite places to get A man. 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: Has been hanging to get down there to do some 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: circle work. Have you ever thought about collaborating with some 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: of the rap artists to do like a little little 68 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: nars X type old town road with Billy Ray Cyrus 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 3: type collaboration. 70 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you're a little poopy, little poopy or little yochty. 71 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: I would love that. I love it, and I love 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: the way that this is happening a lot like Caane 73 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 4: Brown and Yeah the Billy Ray Cyrus, Goyah of course, 74 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: and lots of other collaborations. I love the way, you know, 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: those two genres like hip hop and rap merge with 76 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: country music. I'm into it. 77 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: Maybe should get like Lupai Fiasco. He did that thing 78 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: with Guy Sebastian, you know, Battle Scars. I just love 79 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: the name Loupai Fiasco. 80 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: We'll go through olddicts of the little What. 81 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: About Lee Kernighan and Fiasco, Lee's Fiasco? This is no 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: one's writing this down. 83 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Well, look, these things have to be a bit more 84 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: organic than that. 85 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 3: I just feel that we're in Lee's office at the 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: moment and he's got business face on. This could be 87 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: something that, you know, I could be like Colonel Tom Parky. 88 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: And encouraging a bit more bling on Lee. 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: Can you can you get some bling and a neck tattoo. 90 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: And a diamond. 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: I'll do anything to get airplay on w S. 92 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: You know, this is. 93 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: What's incredible about your career because Australian country artists don't 94 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: get a lot of airplay, and yet you are so famous. 95 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,559 Speaker 2: How it's the live stuff, isn't it that just makes 96 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: you so well known infamous? 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 4: Look, I think it's just the songs and the way 98 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: that they resonate with people and their hearts and their minds, 99 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: and good, good country songs have a pretty long shelf life, 100 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 4: like they can last for decades. So I've been pretty 101 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: fortunate to be able to get some good songs out 102 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: over the last twenty thirty years. 103 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: That still touch people absolutely. 104 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: There's plenty to go, Lee Curning and Boy from the 105 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: Bush releases in cinemas on Wednesday night. Lee, look for 106 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: us at the Denny Ute Muster. We'll be down there 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 3: in our h Z Tanna. Amanda's going to be on 108 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: the back and we'll just be doing some circle work. 109 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: It almost sounds like English. 110 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 4: And Amanda. I've got a Yute Me Girls tank top 111 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 4: on the way to you. 112 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: Oh yes, please, thank you. 113 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: Lee