WEBVTT - Influencer Love Triangles, Reece Hawkins Seeks Redemption & Break Up TikTok 

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. You're dose of the hottest

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<v Speaker 1>influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie

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<v Speaker 1>Torbert and I'm joined by my sisters and journalist Kate

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<v Speaker 1>and Amy on today's show as Sophia Beg and Addis Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>The latest influencer couple Reese Hawkins's shock attendance at his

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<v Speaker 1>daughter's birthday party, The Real Love Island Winners set to

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<v Speaker 1>make it Big and what is Breakup TikTok? But first

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<v Speaker 1>UK influencer couple Jed Barker and Image and Crib have

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<v Speaker 1>sparked a bill splitting debate on their recent trip to Balley.

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<v Speaker 1>The pair enjoyed a three course meal in Udbud. After

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<v Speaker 1>the meal, Image and revealed a big pet peeve of hers.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's have a listen.

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<v Speaker 2>This boy to me on four holiday to dog knows

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<v Speaker 2>the pens my car just because you know we're open

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<v Speaker 2>and that kind of sense, like I say, like, oh, Jedge,

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<v Speaker 2>Tim can't go and pay. He likes to act like

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<v Speaker 2>he's paying for every single meal and he doesn't find

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<v Speaker 2>you had a bit of oh yeah, it's fine, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>grab it and then put my opin in thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>it's his card and it's not, it's mine, And then

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<v Speaker 2>he'll turn to me as the wachss is walking away, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>can you put my card.

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<v Speaker 1>In your purse? This kind of reminds me of the

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok trend. Whether like he's a ten, but he pretends

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<v Speaker 1>to pay for your meals. It's next level. The way

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<v Speaker 1>he would ask for his card to be put in

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<v Speaker 1>image was.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you have to cover it up that much?

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of that stereotypical thing, isn't it, where the

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<v Speaker 1>man is expected to pay. I know with Dale and

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<v Speaker 1>I we now have a joint card, but Dale does

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<v Speaker 1>make a point of going up and paying.

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<v Speaker 3>On it, and it almost looks as if he's paid.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't it defeat the whole purpose of taking in terms

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the bill, because if you're only concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>the optics of it and people judging you for your

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<v Speaker 1>female partner paying the bill, then why not just shout

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<v Speaker 1>her the whole time? Yeah, I have noticed when the

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<v Speaker 1>six of us are all out, all the boys get

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<v Speaker 1>up and pay, and like, Brandon and I actually don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a joint bank account yet, even though we are engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's something to come, but we usually split everything

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<v Speaker 1>or we just pay for it. But Brandon will always

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<v Speaker 1>get up and be like, yeah, so for what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want, I'll pay for you. I think it's because

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<v Speaker 1>he notices that your partners will go up because you've

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<v Speaker 1>all got the joint account.

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<v Speaker 3>But then don't you just go and send him money out?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I always feel bad, so I said, oh, Dora, I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Send you some money. I haven't actually noticed if Reese

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<v Speaker 1>does this or not. I'll have to look out for it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it would piss me off because if you're fully

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<v Speaker 1>paying on your card, it's a bit rude to then

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<v Speaker 1>take credit for it in front of the waiters. And

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<v Speaker 1>why does he feel the need to do that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear in our Facebook community, does your

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<v Speaker 1>partner do this so they take credit for you paying

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<v Speaker 1>the bill?

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<v Speaker 4>So mister Wanamie doesn't actually always look this cancer naturally

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<v Speaker 4>because he actually takes.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of work.

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<v Speaker 1>A super sleuth on TikTok, who really should be working

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<v Speaker 1>for the FBI, has followers convinced TikToker Addis Paul and

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<v Speaker 1>Sophia beg Aka Sofa dofa are dating. Now it comes

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<v Speaker 1>just two months after Addis called it quits with long

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<v Speaker 1>term partner Mi Kayla Tester. Now, sof are you okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Because this is big news in the TikTok space. It

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<v Speaker 1>did rock me to my call. It's news. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>two worlds are colliding on TikTok and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where the followers are ready for it. And I really

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<v Speaker 1>take my hat off to this super sleuth on TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>who has pieced this all together so perfectly. The attention

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<v Speaker 1>to detail and level of investigation that has gone into

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<v Speaker 1>this is truly inspiring. I feel like this person is

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<v Speaker 1>doing our job for us, inspiring or sad I go inspiring. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened is Adams Paul has jumped on his stories

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<v Speaker 1>asking his followers for advice on his new furniture. So

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<v Speaker 1>he shared a couple of screenshots of a new bed

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<v Speaker 1>and chair that was featured on a furniture website. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this all seemed very innocent until the super sleuth in

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<v Speaker 1>question realized that Adis Paul was on FaceTime with someone

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<v Speaker 1>when he took the screen shot. Now this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I really respect the attention to detail So in the

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<v Speaker 1>screen shot of this piece of furniture, the bed in

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<v Speaker 1>the top right hand corner, we see a cut off

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<v Speaker 1>FaceTime square. Now all we see is a snippet of

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<v Speaker 1>light blue and white striped pajamas and a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>blonde hair. In the next screenshot of the other piece

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<v Speaker 1>of furniture, which was a chair in the bottom right

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<v Speaker 1>hand corner, we see the top of a blonde girl's

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<v Speaker 1>head and a white air conditioner with a mirror beneath it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this TikTok user has pieced this all together and put

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<v Speaker 1>it in a video and has finished the video with

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<v Speaker 1>Sofia in the same pajamas. Now, she does quite often

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<v Speaker 1>wear these pajamas on her Instagram story, but clearly it's

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<v Speaker 1>a big fan who has also noticed the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Sofia has a mirror underneath her air conditioner. Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>is all pretty incredible. And this video has attracted two

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<v Speaker 1>million views. And it's interesting to note that this is

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<v Speaker 1>the only video the account has shared. And the comments

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<v Speaker 1>under this video were hilarious. So one usero, can you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me who killed John Beney? This was liked by

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand people. Another said the detective work but whide

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<v Speaker 1>as Sofa Dofa and Addis make so much sense. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually rate and ship this honestly, two special souls and

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful people. They have a point now. Adas Paul and

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<v Speaker 1>Sophia Beg are two of the biggest people on TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment in Australia, and their star power together

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<v Speaker 1>is huge. I'm calling bullshit though on this account. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this could be set up by Addis or Sofa

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<v Speaker 1>Dofa because the fact it's only got one video. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you hear of celebrities tipping off the paparazzi about where

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna be. I feel like someone has tipped them off,

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<v Speaker 1>or this account is somehow connected to Adis Paul because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's talking about it, and we all know with TikTok,

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<v Speaker 1>the more people that talk about you, the more views,

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<v Speaker 1>the more money you're gonna get. But perhaps this person

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<v Speaker 1>who spotted all the clues is just a normal person

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't have a backup account or a finster and

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to share what they'd found without putting it through

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<v Speaker 1>their own name. I get that, but the likelihood of

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<v Speaker 1>it taking off if this account has no video, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is pretty well that their first video has attracted

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<v Speaker 1>two million views. I mean, Adis is a mastermind at

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<v Speaker 1>attracting attention online and staying relevant. I do think it

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly be planted, because why would you be screenshotting

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<v Speaker 1>yourself when you're on FaceTime. Oh, here's this random furniture.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you take a screenshot at any moment of the furniture?

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<v Speaker 1>He was clearly talking to Sophia about this furniture and

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<v Speaker 1>probably thought, fuck, this is a good time to get

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of attention. And rumors have been circulating that

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<v Speaker 1>the two have become close after the Stacks event, So

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<v Speaker 1>there have been videos circulating showing Adis following Sofa Dofa

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<v Speaker 1>around the event. They've also started engaging with each other's

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<v Speaker 1>content on social media, and it's very good timing for

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<v Speaker 1>both Sofia and Adas as they've both recently parted ways

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<v Speaker 1>from their long term partners and the polls have often

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<v Speaker 1>been described as TikTok royalty. So I feel like with

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<v Speaker 1>Sophia being TikTok's it girl, this is a perfect coupling. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Adis's ex, mikaela Tester, has not stayed quiet on these rumors.

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<v Speaker 1>I do love it when she drops it, and because

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<v Speaker 1>it's always around the time, there is some drama and

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<v Speaker 1>she usually breadcrumbs her followers with little clues about what's

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<v Speaker 1>really going on. So she got sent in a question

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<v Speaker 1>asking thoughts on Sofa dofa now. She tagged Sofa dofa

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<v Speaker 1>in the post and said that's my bestie and I

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<v Speaker 1>love her. She also shared an old photo of what

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to be Sofa Dofah sitting on a hotel bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I assume to show that they are pretty close the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they're sharing hotels together now. A user responded

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<v Speaker 1>to the post saying, but that makes no sense. Haven't

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<v Speaker 1>you seen dot dot dot. Mikayla then wrote, don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>everything you see. Perhaps these guys are all just friends,

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<v Speaker 1>though I mean, they all are influencers, they all go

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<v Speaker 1>to the same events. It's likely that they've all met together.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe Michayla is fine with Sophia hanging out with Adis.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a plot twist. If they're all friends, maybe Sophia

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<v Speaker 1>is in Adis's ear about getting back with Mikayla. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm sorry for is anyone else not seeing

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<v Speaker 1>what's clearly happening? It's like the high Paths where they

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<v Speaker 1>all pretend that they're in relationships and they break up

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<v Speaker 1>to get more following. Could that not just be the answer?

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<v Speaker 1>Could this whole breakoup between Addis and Mchayla be orchestrated

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<v Speaker 1>then they're introducing Sofi dofa into it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's very clever if it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, both of them just have come out of long

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<v Speaker 1>term relationships. So maybe they're, you know, on Seinfeld when

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<v Speaker 1>they're just there, you know, they're being an ear for

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<v Speaker 1>each other and suddenly they get together. Well. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that Mikayla was a bit upset that she wasn't getting

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<v Speaker 1>much attention out of this because she started staring up

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<v Speaker 1>rumors of her own in the Q and A. So

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<v Speaker 1>she was asked to show a recent photo in her

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<v Speaker 1>camera reel. So she decided to show a photo of

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<v Speaker 1>her on FaceTime with a mystery guy. And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who the mystery guy is. It's a quite attractive

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<v Speaker 1>looking young guy, dark hair. So if any listeners know

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<v Speaker 1>who this is, hit us up in the DMS tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely the TikToker who investigated the Addis poll staff will

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<v Speaker 1>find out who this guy is.

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<v Speaker 4>I can believe I even thought I'm getting back together

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<v Speaker 4>with you, we are so over.

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<v Speaker 2>Phone romo.

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<v Speaker 1>Breakup TikTok is a new corner of the Internet full

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<v Speaker 1>of tears, sad music, and journeys.

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<v Speaker 3>Of self discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>Content creators in this space say they aren't doing it

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<v Speaker 1>for the big bucks. They're doing it to help others

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<v Speaker 1>recover from their own heartache. Sophie, I feel like this

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<v Speaker 1>type of content would have been appearing on your for

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<v Speaker 1>you page back in the day when you went through

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<v Speaker 1>a nasty breakup. Yeah, I feel like I would have

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<v Speaker 1>watched it, but I don't think I would have created

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<v Speaker 1>my own. And a lot of these women are using

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok as a diary about their breakup, so they're really

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<v Speaker 1>going into the raw, nitty gritty about what happened. But generally,

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<v Speaker 1>when you break up with someone or you get dumped,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like usually Instagram is used to show that

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<v Speaker 1>person how well you're doing, how you've moved on, how

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<v Speaker 1>your new breakup haircut's going to make people jealous. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't feel like your air your dirty laundry and put

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<v Speaker 1>up how upset you are. Yeah, can you imagine being

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<v Speaker 1>the X and on your fore you page, it's your

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<v Speaker 1>ex popping up by saying you know how terrible they're

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<v Speaker 1>going in the breakup? Yeah, well that's the thing. These

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<v Speaker 1>people are using it to talk about these heart wrenching

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<v Speaker 1>moments and documenting how they're living alone and how they're

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<v Speaker 1>moving on from this person. I would just find the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing mortifying. Surely the exes are blocked. You'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to go off on TikTok as well, wouldn't you if

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to monetize that shit, not just go off? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there are many TikTok accounts that are blowing up from

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<v Speaker 1>content like this. So a twenty four year old woman

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<v Speaker 1>in the US called Bridget split with her boyfriend after

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<v Speaker 1>four years and instantly became a breakup influencer overnight, with

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<v Speaker 1>her following growing from three hundred followers to twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand followers. So, prior to the breakup, she was sharing

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<v Speaker 1>openly about her relationship online and use TikTok as a diary,

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<v Speaker 1>so her now ex wasn't surprised or resistant when she

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<v Speaker 1>asked if she could film their last few interactions. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it just me or do we think the obsession with

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<v Speaker 1>capturing everything actually led to Bridges breakup. You would actually

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<v Speaker 1>think that that would be the cause of the breakup,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had a look into bridges content and it

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<v Speaker 1>appears that it was actually pretty mutual between them and

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff she was sharing.

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<v Speaker 3>So she actually shared a page packing.

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<v Speaker 1>Up her things from their shared apartment, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>had this overlay of them in better times. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>emotional music. She even took it a step further filming

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<v Speaker 1>their final farewell to each other, and also she set

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<v Speaker 1>up a camera to film them discussing basically their breakup

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<v Speaker 1>and what was going to happen, whether they were in

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<v Speaker 1>fact going to leave, Like it's crazy. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that just do you think that just validated his decision?

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, yeah, this is excellent. I feel like she's

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<v Speaker 1>been watching too much Gary Vee. You know when he's

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<v Speaker 1>like document everything. This is probably something that you wouldn't document.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine the heat of the moment where you're

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<v Speaker 1>having an argument, where you're potentially about to break up? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>do you mind if I set my camera up in

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<v Speaker 1>the corner to like, what on earth is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And there has been a bit of a mixed reception

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<v Speaker 1>in the comments section on some of these breakup accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>One user wrote, our generation is so messed up? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would you film it? Another wrote, you really have no

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries and I tend to really with these people well.

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<v Speaker 1>In response to the negativity, Bridget said, despite the haters,

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<v Speaker 1>this content can be a lifeline for some viewers. People

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<v Speaker 1>kept dming me and asking me for help. I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to bring everyone together and now I have close to

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and forty people in eleven active group chats

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram. The thing is, though, she says that you

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<v Speaker 1>know she's trying to help everyone, but why was she

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<v Speaker 1>filming in the moment of the breakup because she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that this is what it would lead to surely,

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<v Speaker 1>or is she looking for a niche and decided, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we will break up and I'll be big on

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<v Speaker 1>breakup TikTok. I don't get how the X is happy

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<v Speaker 1>for this stuff to be online, because apparently Bridget said

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<v Speaker 1>that she showed the X before the video went out,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was very supportive and said that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something to help her heal from the breakup. And

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<v Speaker 1>it did become more apparent though that as these videos

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<v Speaker 1>started blowing up he did feel a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable about it, and said that he couldn't watch them

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<v Speaker 1>anymore because it was stopping him from moving on. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>can you imagine if your ex partner was creating content

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<v Speaker 1>about your breakup and talking about how heartbroken they were,

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<v Speaker 1>how much they missed you, as if you wouldn't tune

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<v Speaker 1>in to watch it, I would have the popcorn at

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<v Speaker 1>the end. Now, Sophie, can you imagine if you're the

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<v Speaker 1>girl that then dates this guy after all the material

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<v Speaker 1>you have looking into his life, what's his past mistakes? Yeah? Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Another breakup influencer by the name of Victoria Clark said

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<v Speaker 1>that she didn't ask her X for permission to post

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<v Speaker 1>the content. She said she did her best to try

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<v Speaker 1>and use footage and pictures where he wasn't easily identifiable.

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<v Speaker 1>She did say, though, that she had to come clean

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<v Speaker 1>to him about the videos once they started getting hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of views. Now the X said he was

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<v Speaker 1>very upset by the videos of her crying, and he

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<v Speaker 1>said he wished he didn't use their breakup as content,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently totally understood why So, what happens after you've

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<v Speaker 1>moved on and you're a breakup influencer. Well, actually, Bridget

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<v Speaker 1>has started to share videos like sort of diary videos

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<v Speaker 1>about her first date since the breakup happens. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get back with your X, like there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way they're going to get back to you after that,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be perfect content for them. Imagine the views

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<v Speaker 1>on that. It's like if you bitch about an X

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're like, oh, yeah, actually we decided to

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<v Speaker 1>get back together.

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<v Speaker 3>And everyone's just laid the boot in.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing is I can see the merit in

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<v Speaker 1>creating a space where people are talking about their feelings

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<v Speaker 1>after the breakup, and you know, it's a community where

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<v Speaker 1>people can talk about their own heartache and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're seeing the reality of a breakup. However, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the recording of those private moments for clicks is

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<v Speaker 1>just gross.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but are they making money off it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like? Is there a way to monetize this type of content?

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely think that there is a way. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>think of all the brands, like for instance, new dating apps, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that you could be pushed a tissue brands and bumble.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I have to say to you that actually I've

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<v Speaker 2>been working at home since I was twenty seven, So

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really got dressed for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>My Kitchen Rules has returned to our screens after a

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<v Speaker 1>long two year hiatus, and it's all looking a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>Amy even you tuned in to see what it was like. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I haven't watched MKR for years, but the inclusion

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<v Speaker 1>of Nigella Lawson sucked me into the show. So Nigella

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<v Speaker 1>of course replaced Pete Evans and she's appearing alongside old

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<v Speaker 1>favorite Manu for Dell and there were some noticeable changes

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<v Speaker 1>to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So the show was actually acted.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty following terrible ratings, and people might remember

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<v Speaker 1>the show came up against Married at First Sight and

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<v Speaker 1>Manu has said in recent interviews that there was a

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<v Speaker 1>real push by production to make the show more dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>in order to try and beat MATHS. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was dramatic to begin with with all the villains,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know, but Manu claims that the show became

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<v Speaker 1>more about contestants than the food, and now this season

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<v Speaker 1>it's back to basics.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about the food.

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<v Speaker 1>So it really appears they're trying to make it more

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<v Speaker 1>like Master Chef, So a real feel good moment where

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<v Speaker 1>the whole family can come together. I reckon it could

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<v Speaker 1>be off the back of Lego Masters. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I said Lego in Australia. In Adelaide, everyone says Lego

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<v Speaker 1>off the back of Lego Masters doing so well because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone loved the fact that as a family that you

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<v Speaker 1>could tune in, you had Hamish Blake who was so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It was all very lighthearted and really you just felt

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<v Speaker 1>good after watching it. I think Nigella's inclusion is also

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<v Speaker 1>for those foodies because we grew up watching Nigella and

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, Amy, I am drawn to watch the

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<v Speaker 1>show just to see her talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>Food exactly now.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of the contestants, they seemed a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>wholesome than we're used to and it does appear to

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<v Speaker 1>be one couple that's kind of earmarked as the villains. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're going to get the treatment like

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen in the past. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be pretty feel good and, as you said, focus a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more on the food rather than creating fights between

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<v Speaker 1>the contestants. Have you guys noticed though, that usually the

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<v Speaker 1>people who would be the villains on the show, they're

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<v Speaker 1>now becoming the most popular characters. I mean you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Chatfield, Yeah, I mean you look at Love Island

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<v Speaker 1>with Eck and Suit. She would have been the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>villain a couple of years ago. She would have been

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<v Speaker 1>what they can't vote them out, but they would have

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get rid of her. But everyone's so wise

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<v Speaker 1>now to TV shows that everyone loved her for creating

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<v Speaker 1>drama and actually making the show interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that people now understand the dynamic of these

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<v Speaker 1>reality TV shows and they want people that are going to,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, create drama, be a little bit more interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm intrigued to see how this rates, because, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, I will probably tune in for Nigella, but

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<v Speaker 1>it appears she's only going to be on half the

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<v Speaker 1>show anyway, so I wonder if the ratings will drop

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<v Speaker 1>off as soon as she is off our screen. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the ratings have come out for the first night, and

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<v Speaker 1>the show was up against The Block and the Mask Singer.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Block won the ratings with seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>forty seven thousand metro viewers. The Mass Singer came in

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<v Speaker 1>second with five hundred and ninety eight thousand, and not

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<v Speaker 1>far behind was MKR with five hundred and three thousand. However,

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<v Speaker 1>despite ranking third, there's been so much talk online about

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<v Speaker 1>Nigella being the savior of this show, so it's expected

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to go up even further in the ratings.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so I'm not about to air my dirty launching

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<v Speaker 4>on social media. I don't think it's appropriate to talk

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<v Speaker 4>about some things. I don't want to put anyone in

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<v Speaker 4>a negative light, especially the father of my kids. No matter, like,

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<v Speaker 4>no matter what, I'm just I'm not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But basically, in response to the car thing that he's

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<v Speaker 4>talking about, that's not the full story.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not true at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, just don't believe what you see on social media,

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<v Speaker 4>you goes.

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<v Speaker 1>Reees Hawkins made a surprise appearance at his daughter's birthday

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<v Speaker 1>party over the weekend. Saskia, who he shares with Tammy Hembro,

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<v Speaker 1>celebrated her sixth birthday in style with a Mawana themed

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<v Speaker 1>party on the Gold Coast. Reese's appearance comes amid rumors

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<v Speaker 1>he's broken up with his wife London. Now, kay, can

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<v Speaker 1>you tell us more? Well, it's a second time in

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<v Speaker 1>two months that Reese has posted with his two children

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<v Speaker 1>he shares with his ex Tammy hembro So. Back in May,

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<v Speaker 1>He's surprised followers when he shared a photo of him

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<v Speaker 1>with Saskia and Wolf back in Australia. Now, Reese has

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<v Speaker 1>been a notable absence in his two oldest children's lives

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<v Speaker 1>since trying to relocate to the US with his wife

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<v Speaker 1>London and the infant son's stone And. It appears Reese

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<v Speaker 1>has not spent much time with his youngest son, as

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<v Speaker 1>he had struggled to gain access into the US. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>it appears he has spent most of the last year

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<v Speaker 1>or so in Mexico, with trips to Switzerland as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and last month he was in Italy in between his

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<v Speaker 1>two trips to Australia. Now, Reese has copped a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of criticism online about being a so called absent dad,

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<v Speaker 1>so he infamously deleted all of the photos of his

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<v Speaker 1>two eldest children on Instagram before moving overseas. Now at

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<v Speaker 1>the time he stated he didn't want to share his

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<v Speaker 1>children online, only then to share photos of his newborn

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<v Speaker 1>son Stone And. I think the timing of Reese finally

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<v Speaker 1>visiting Saskia and Wolf hasn't reflected well on his relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with London. It's always been a contentious relationship, Achille, considering

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<v Speaker 1>that it came out that London was originally a fan

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<v Speaker 1>of Tammy and Reese, and it is interesting now that

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<v Speaker 1>rumors are swirling that they've broken up and he now

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<v Speaker 1>chooses to visit his children in Australia. As we discussed

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<v Speaker 1>last month, London's engagement ring has been missing from her

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<v Speaker 1>posts and stories since late April. The pair have also

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<v Speaker 1>not liked each other's Instagram posts since early June, and

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<v Speaker 1>it now appears they've unfollowed each other on Instagram. It

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<v Speaker 1>does appear as though Reese's trying to restore his reputation

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<v Speaker 1>as a father. So in a deleted comment, a follower

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<v Speaker 1>remarked on Reese's absence, to which he replied, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>an absent dad. Can you please stop saying that? So

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<v Speaker 1>it does appear he's been quite deliberate in sharing photos

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<v Speaker 1>of himself in Saskia and Wolf's lives again. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's fair enough, because we really don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>goes on behind closed doors. I mean, yes, he has

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<v Speaker 1>chosen to remove photos of them, but I think his

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<v Speaker 1>reasoning for removing photos was for their own privacy. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know necessarily think it's him saying I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have anything to do with them anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then he.

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<v Speaker 1>Uploaded photos with Stone, so it didn't really make it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was him now saying that Stone was being born. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you say I'm going to keep my kids'

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<v Speaker 1>lives off Instagram and then you only post about one,

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<v Speaker 1>it does seem a little bit unfair. Also, Tammy Hembro

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<v Speaker 1>has come out and said she's got sole custody of

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<v Speaker 1>the children. I suppose it's not really a good look

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<v Speaker 1>to be jet setting around overseas when your ex partner

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<v Speaker 1>is looking after your kids in two different countries. That

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<v Speaker 1>being said, I'm just so glad that he has stepped

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<v Speaker 1>back into their lives because they look incredibly happy to

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<v Speaker 1>have their dad back. And at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about the kids being happy. So if he's

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<v Speaker 1>making steps to be part of their life again, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it's just a win win for the kids.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, I'm m Kinson, I'm an actress. Bringing me out

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<v Speaker 5>of here. I'm out ten out of ten from Turkey.

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<v Speaker 5>Whenever a fit boy with a membership in the gym

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<v Speaker 5>for over six months. Entre de Villa, I need to

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<v Speaker 5>flirt within with.

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<v Speaker 1>A heavy heart. But it's time to discuss the Love

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<v Speaker 1>Island UK finale. I am still mourning the end of

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<v Speaker 1>this season. I just don't know what to watch or

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<v Speaker 1>talk about at the moment. I missed the Islanders so

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<v Speaker 1>much so that last night I actually watched an episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Unseen Bits that I'd missed from last week, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was an epic ending to one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>seasons of Love Island, with Eck and Sue and David

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<v Speaker 1>Ay taking out the title. How did you feel about

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<v Speaker 1>the result? I was really happy. I felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>public got it right because they deserve to win. Even

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<v Speaker 1>though I don't think that they're the most in love

0:22:34.600 --> 0:22:37.320
<v Speaker 1>couple or that their relationship is as far as some

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<v Speaker 1>of the other Islanders. They brought the entertainment, they made

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<v Speaker 1>the show. As people are saying, Ek and Sue is

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<v Speaker 1>Love Island. She is so popular that she is even

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<v Speaker 1>being touted as taking over from Laura Whitmore, who is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course the host of the show. And they won

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<v Speaker 1>in a complete landslide. They received sixty three point seven

0:22:54.920 --> 0:22:57.439
<v Speaker 1>of the public votes. I had tried to have a

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<v Speaker 1>media blackout for days because I watched the finale quite

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<v Speaker 1>a few days after it had aired, and can you

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<v Speaker 1>believe I literally was in the ad break before they

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<v Speaker 1>announced who won, and I scrolled onto Snapchat and saw

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<v Speaker 1>the winner. I could not believe it. I don't know

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 1>how you thought you could have a media blackout from it.

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.800
<v Speaker 1>For me, it's not a show that it really matters

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<v Speaker 1>who won. I'm just there for the drama and the entertainment. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>media commentators are predicting that Eck and Sue and Jemma

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<v Speaker 1>Owen are set to make millions as the standout stars

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<v Speaker 1>of the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you are correct.

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<v Speaker 1>So while Gemma has grown up with wealth, with her

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<v Speaker 1>soccer player dad Michael Owen reportedly being worth sixty eight

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars, it appears she's set to become a millionaire herself.

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>So before entering the villa, Jemma came up with the

0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 1>ingenious idea to launch a swimwear brand, and she, of

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<v Speaker 1>course wore her own swimwear on the show, which is

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:53.479
<v Speaker 1>the perfect platform to show off her designs. Considering that

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 1>the Islanders only ever wear bathers for the majority of

0:23:56.160 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>the time in the villa, it really worked in her

0:23:58.040 --> 0:24:00.520
<v Speaker 1>favor this year as well, because for the first time,

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:04.159
<v Speaker 1>Love Ireland didn't have a huge fast fashion brand as

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<v Speaker 1>a sponsor, so eBay was one of the sponsors and

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<v Speaker 1>they were also allowed to bring in their own clothes. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it was very clever and the swimwear has proven very

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<v Speaker 1>popular with the general public as well as high street stores,

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<v Speaker 1>who have bombarded Gemma's management team with offers for collaborations.

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Jemma is also set to make a mint from fashion endorsements.

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are many fast fashion brands vying for

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<v Speaker 1>her to be the face of their next collection. And

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<v Speaker 1>I did notice in a real that she shared where

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<v Speaker 1>she was reunited with her dogs and horse, that she

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<v Speaker 1>was holding a pretty little thing shopping bag, so it

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<v Speaker 1>might be a sign of things to come. I did

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<v Speaker 1>spy that as well actually. Now, as for Eck and Sue,

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<v Speaker 1>there are rumors that she and Dava Day may have

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<v Speaker 1>been offered their own reality show, So Davi Day played

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<v Speaker 1>into the rumors this week by sharing a petition for

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<v Speaker 1>the couple to get their own TV show where they

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<v Speaker 1>travel around Italy, eating food and arguing and laughing together. Now,

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Daviday added a pulp for fans to vote between two options,

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:07.480
<v Speaker 1>which were both yes. A source has told the Son

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<v Speaker 1>Telley Chiefs are eyeing them up for their own series

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 1>after singling them out as standout stars of the series

0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>of Love Island. Eck and Zoo and Davia Day have

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<v Speaker 1>blown fans away during their time on the show. They

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.399
<v Speaker 1>have global appeal and could be huge now. So, as

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned earlier, there is a petition going around for

0:25:25.600 --> 0:25:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Eck and Sue to take over Laura Whitmore as the

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<v Speaker 1>host of Love Island. And this has all come about

0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 1>because fans were really impressed with her presenting skills, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Laura Whitmore should be annoyed because she

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<v Speaker 1>was never on the show. There were all these these

0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 1>opportunities where someone's getting dumped from the island and they

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<v Speaker 1>just get the contestants to read it out. I also

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that Jemma Owen did a really good job at presenting,

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 1>so I could see both of them possibly vying for

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<v Speaker 1>that position of Love Island host in the future. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Laura Whitmore does such a great job of hosting, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think the fact that she's a little bit older,

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of has that motherly figure in saying that

0:26:02.760 --> 0:26:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I suppose Ecken Sue was really the mother of the

0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Love Island house. I wonder how Laura Whitmore's partner who

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<v Speaker 1>does the voiceovers, would feel if eck and Zou was

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to replace his wife. I feel like they come as

0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>a pair. So that's Ian Sterling, who is iconic on

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<v Speaker 1>Love Island. So I don't think they're going to get

0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>rid of Laura Whitmore, because you don't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of Ian. In other Ecken Zoo news, a voice

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<v Speaker 1>notes between the Turkish Delight and a friend discussing the

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.479
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one season of Love Island have been leaked.

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<v Speaker 1>In the audio, eck and Sue reportedly said last year

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 1>was awful. The people on there were just dry, pointless,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.160
<v Speaker 1>shit personalities. I just couldn't believe them. Even the couple

0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 1>who won, Liam and Milly, even they were dry. I

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, fuck me, where is the drama? I think

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>last year was wrong. I don't know why they put

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 1>people on like that. They would dry now. Eken also

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>commented on Liberty and Jake's relationship, calling it fake and

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<v Speaker 1>none of the two thousand twenty one cast of Love

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Island mentioned have responded to the voice notes, she did

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<v Speaker 1>have a point that series was not good as this

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:09.760
<v Speaker 1>is I did really enjoy Milli and Liam though, I

0:27:09.760 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 1>think they brought a bit of drama to it, but

0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 1>the way that she just accepted him back was a

0:27:14.320 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>bit disappointing. I enjoyed the series at the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>now that we've had the twenty twenty two series, I

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>can see that it was a lot better now. The

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Islanders were back together for the reunion show on Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 1>which is yet to air on nine Now I'm desperately

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:33.120
<v Speaker 1>waiting for that to be uploaded, and Antigny apparently hosted

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.800
<v Speaker 1>a lavish after party at her home with a performance

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>from Chipmunk that went on to the early hours of

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Friday morning. I don't know that I knew you were

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 1>going to ask me. I don't know. Apparently they're probably

0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>some cool musician. Okay, so sorry, probably get heaps of

0:27:47.119 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>dms about that. Sorry. However, the interesting thing was that

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the final eight contestants were notable absentees, so apparently the

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 1>only people who attended the after party from the final

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 1>week of the show were Adam and Page, and Insider

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>said Antigny threw the most amazing party for everyone, and

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.080
<v Speaker 1>almost all the stars were there. Apart from the big names,

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.160
<v Speaker 1>people felt like they had decided to distance themselves from

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>the main group, and it's pretty clear a big divide

0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 1>has already formed. Wow, that's so interesting because talking about

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>the previous series, I heard in a podcast interview with Chloe.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember, Chloe was the one who came second,

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:26.919
<v Speaker 1>who was partnered up with Toby, and she was saying

0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>that after the show, there was this big Love Island

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 1>group WhatsApp message and she just completely distanced herself from it.

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>She just left the group, didn't want anything to do

0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.160
<v Speaker 1>with it, and there was this big Love Island WhatsApp

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>group and she said that while she initially tried to

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>throw on a few messages, she tried to distance herself

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>a bit from it. It's also like Molly May who

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't even like talking about Love Island because she doesn't

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be associated with the show anymore. I was

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:56.320
<v Speaker 1>scrolling on TikTok yesterday and I came across Coco from

0:28:56.400 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Love Island, the famous Titgate girl, and she was posting

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of videos with the Blonde Bomb show. I

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>can't remember her name, she was the one that was

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>hooking up with Jack's and they just seem so desperate

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to hold on to Love Island. They were hashtagging Love

0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Island on everything. Apparently they have had a like Coco's

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>had a bit of a brawl with Summer on the

0:29:15.960 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>reunion show as well, And I can kind of see

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>why you'd want to distance yourself from the tacky drama.

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But not if you're an Ek and Sue or a

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Gemma that are trying to then become the stars and

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>standouts from the show. Yeah, but not even that. It

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>probably is awkward for a lot of them who were

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>now in these somewhat serious relationships to go back to

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the cast. I mean, you think about Damy,

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>who was previously dating Summer and Amber. Why would India

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>want to see those two girls there? You know what

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean that it would open up a lot of awkwardness. Ah,

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>that's true. Apparently Damy was quite upset on the reunion

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>show because it came out that Summer hadn't followed him

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and he was really concerned about it. So

0:29:57.480 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were like, I don't think he's

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>going to last with India. Well, I was really sad

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to see that Jack's didn't show up to the reunion

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>because I feel like Paige has it almost coming to her.

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like no one has discussed the fact that

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>she and Jack's. When he left the house, Jack said

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to her, I'm going to pick you up at the airport.

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 1>I want to be in a relationship with you. He

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>inferred that he loved her, but then she just jumped

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 1>so quickly into a relationship with Adam and yeah, but

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Jack's got no closure from that, so

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I would have liked to see that play out on air.

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.240
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, though, I feel like it's quite evident

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>that they were hiding something. Jack's clearly left the show

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>under unique circumstances. A lot of people were talking about

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>his mental health, but breading between the lines and knowing

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 1>reality TV show, I think there was an incident that

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>happened which made him get kicked off the show, and

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>it might have had something to do with his mental health.

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it probably involved Adam and that's probably why

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't. I mean, I'm guessing, I don't know. For me,

0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>I really liked but I feel like I didn't agree

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>with the way that he acted in Casa Moore, but

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I feel like he had genuine and feelings for Paige,

0:31:01.480 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like it was pretty clear when he left.

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't you can't edit that. When he left,

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:07.080
<v Speaker 1>he said, I want to wait for you, I want

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>to be with you. Yes. But the thing I'm saying

0:31:09.000 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 1>is I think he was actually kicked off the show

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and they just pretended that he came up with this

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>reason to leave, hence why he wasn't invited back to

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the reunion. Yeah, but he was invited to the reunion.

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>He said he doesn't too. He does. He said he

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to come because it's too heartbreaking for him.

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 1>He also said that the producers begged him to stay

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>on the show. Obviously for them, they would have loved

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to see him come up against Adam. It would just

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 1>be good ratings. I don't know. I think there's something

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>fishy going on now. I really need some of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners to give me some recommendations of what I need

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to start watching. I saw that there was Love Island US,

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>but that really doesn't interest me. I have a big

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 1>hole in my life now where Love Island used to be.

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 1>So people can drop in some recommendations that would be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we do go, I just wanted to say a

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<v Speaker 1>big thank you to all of the listeners for sending

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<v Speaker 1>me yellow bridesmaid dresses. I've been tagged in quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few and they're all absolutely stunning, so I really do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. I did love the one from Beckonbridge. I

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<v Speaker 1>really think you should get that now. If you did

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