1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: On today's show, Molly May's pregnancy announcement, Why Kim Kardashian's 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: new look is sparking serious concern, and the lengths Madison 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: Woolly went to to hide her toilet activity from Jonathan Sour. Hello, 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Sophie 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Torbert and I'm joined by my sister and journalist Amy. Now, Amy, 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: I feel like you have had a weekend the lot 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: of partners can relate to because your fiance goes all 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: out with the AFL Grand Final. 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Well, I didn't realize until I started dating Dale that 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: men consider the AFL Grand Final as their version of Christmas. 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: So Dale always has a huge AFL Grand Final party 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: on and every year he and his friends dress up 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: for it. So this year they had to dress up 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: as something memorable or that made headlines in twenty twenty two, 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: so everyone wanted to dress a Shane Warren of course. Well, 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: we went out for dinner the night before and there 19 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: was a bit of discussion because he was pretty disorgani 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: with his costume. So we were trying to brainstorm people 21 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: and Shane Warn was. 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: The obvious choice. Yeah, everyone loves Warning. 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: So I rushed out to Rebel Sport, got him all 24 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: the cricket gear and then I was like, shit, Dale 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: said he needed white jocks. Do you know how bloody 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: hard it is to find white jobs that they'd be 27 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: pretty run of the mill white jobs, So I think 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: because most men don't want to wear them because they 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: get stained. 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: So I was like, wait a sec, because I needed 32 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: like wirefront ones. I was like, we're like older men 33 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: by their jobs. And immediately remember Dad gets here a 34 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,479 Speaker 1: big I was like, right, I'm going to Big W. 35 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: So I got these jockeys. They're the weirdest jocks I've 36 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: ever seen. 37 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Like the crutch was huge on them. It was bizarre. 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Now, so you've got a bit of a recommendation for 39 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: everyone I do. 40 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: Last night I. 41 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: Was watching the new four part mini series which was 42 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: released on stan about the Barley bombing and basically it's 43 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: almost been twenty years since the terrorist attack happened and 44 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: it's really well done. So basically the mini series follows 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: the stories of four different tour who were involved, so 46 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: three Australians and one English. 47 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: Lot of tourists, and I really. 48 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: Liked it because it did focus on North Melbourne player 49 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Jason McCartney, who was at Patty's nightclub at the time 50 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: of the bombing and sort of focused on how he 51 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: returned to football after the attack. And yeah, it's definitely 52 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: one i'd recommend watching well after watch it after I 53 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: finished The Crown. I'm watching that for the second time 54 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: and I'm so excited because on November night, the new 55 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: series of The Crown comes out, and that's just going 56 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: to be Diana. I thought I had paused the filming, 57 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: but was that the subsidence it was meant to release 58 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: it earlier, and obviously thought it was a little bit 59 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: disrespectful to the Queen. 60 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: Do you remember your first poo with your ex? 61 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: Madison Woolly has opened up about her bowel movements in 62 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: the latest episode of her podcast Girl Code. So during 63 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: a confession segment, Madison revealed the length she went to 64 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: to conceal her toilet activities from her then boyfriend Jonathan Sower. Now, 65 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: I feel like you're being quite pc here when you 66 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: say toilet activities, Do you mean doing a pool as 67 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: you Yes, I do, And I feel like we should 68 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: warn people we are about to talk about who. So 69 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: if you want to skip forward having your breakfast, yeah, 70 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: do that. So yes, Madison was talking about how she 71 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: concealed doing a poo because it is very awkward, isn't 72 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: it when you first start dating somebody. And I got 73 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: to say, this is the content I'm living for from 74 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: Madison and Caitlyn's podcast. 75 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like they're actually. 76 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: Hitting the nail on the head of what their listeners 77 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: want to hear about, because I feel like for so 78 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: long Madison in particular, has had such a curated feed, 79 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: and she's very careful about what she shares on YouTube 80 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: and wants to put out that she's living this lavish, 81 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: perfect lifestyle. 82 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: But people want to hear these sorts of these stories 83 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: that make you human. 84 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: And I didn't actually realize that she had IBS, which 85 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: makes this story even more interesting because fuck, that would 86 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: be hard hiding that from apart it would be so 87 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: Madison went straight in there with the juicy detail. She 88 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: said that when she first started dating Jonathan, she actually 89 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: lived with Caitlyn at the time, and Madison had her 90 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: own on suite and Caitlyn had a communal bathroom, but 91 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: that was her bathroom that she was meant to be using. 92 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: I love the fact that Madison had this beautiful on 93 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: suite and Paul Caitlyn had to have some crappy communal bathroom, 94 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: but she might have been paying more. Sometimes the communal 95 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: bathroom is better because it's bigger. So basically, Madison said 96 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: that she and Caitlyn had this arrangement where if Madison 97 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: needed to go and do a poo, that she would 98 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: go do it in Caitlyn's bathroom. So apparently they timed 99 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: it out so when Jonathan would go to the gym 100 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: when he'd stay over, she would rush to Caitlyn's bathroom 101 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: and go to a pool because she didn't want the 102 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: pooh smell lingering and on sweet. 103 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: I love the fact that. 104 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: They said, Oh, Jonathan would go to the gym for 105 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: an hour and a half every day, so she'd have 106 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: this wind window of time to go to the toilet. 107 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: It's funny she said that she got caught out because 108 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: she became sort of complacent when he ended up coming 109 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: home when she. 110 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: Was in this communal toilet. 111 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say Caitlyn is a very good friend to 112 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: Madison because she tried to cover it all up she 113 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, she's just in there trying to find something. 114 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: But apparently months later Jonathan said, I totally knew you 115 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: were doing a pool in the toilet. Madison also went 116 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: on to say that she had another PEO experience in Balley, 117 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: so pretty early on in their relationship, they traveled to 118 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: Bali and I remember seeing this vlog and I was thinking, Wow, 119 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: that's early, because I feel like you lose a lot 120 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: of mystery when you travel with somebody, because that thing said, 121 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: I think it's a good way to solidify your relationship 122 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: with someone by traveling with them, because the real you 123 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: comes out on these troops. 124 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: Also, you are forced to have these awkward toilet incidences. 125 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't want to pooh in front of 126 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: somebody too, in front of them, in front of them, 127 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: but I mean, like, you don't want to have you, 128 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: you know, be sick from being in Balley and then 129 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: have someone walk directly into the toilet after day. 130 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: You've got to have little tactics. 131 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: And actually one of the tactics Madison and Caitlyn said 132 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: they both have and one was turning on the shower 133 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: and then going to the toilet. But apparently Jonathan said 134 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: you girls are so stupid. You know, I can hear 135 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: you flushing the toilet halfway through the shower. I actually 136 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: think that's a good tip though, But you've got to 137 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: like you've got to go to the toilet at the start, 138 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: and then you wait till the end and you've actually, no. 139 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: It's gonna say this is lingering. Still, well, I think 140 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: a little good tactic. Kids. 141 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes if you have unfortunately had to go 142 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: to the bathroom at someone's house and you need to spray, 143 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: I always don't want someone to hear me do the spray, 144 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: so I flush and spray instantaneously. 145 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 2: I say, you do like a fake cough. No. 146 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: Now back to that Barley trip, Madison opened up about 147 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: how she sort of kept boundaries in the relationship early on. 148 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to what she said. 149 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: So I remember, remember I would go down to like 150 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: the hotel lobby in Ballei because I was like petrified. 151 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: I'd be like I'm just gonna go for a walk, 152 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: or like I'm gonna go get a coffee, sprint to 153 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: the bathroom literally like previously sweating, I'm like in the 154 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: store like clean, Sorry that dam I, but yeah, I 155 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: do feel for Madison because as you said, so if 156 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: she's got ibs like that is a shit situation, part 157 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: of the puntin. 158 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: I remember doing. 159 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: That when I was on holiday and Europe with Dale. 160 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: If we stayed at a hotel, I would go downstairs 161 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: as well and use the toilet. I think it's the 162 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: safest thing to do. It's polite. 163 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: I bet Jonathan was probably doing the same thing. 164 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: See. I didn't have an issue because the first time 165 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: I went away with Brandon to his family's beach house 166 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: in Port Hughes, I just couldn't go. Like I literally 167 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: became that constipated that I just sorry. 168 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: I actually hate that. 169 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: Way anyway, I just could not go, and then my 170 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: stomach pains were out of control. 171 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: You gotta go, I can't go out. I'm sick. 172 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: Boo. You Whoreror London girl and has indicated that things 173 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: could be back on again with her estranged husband, Reese Hawkins. 174 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: So London shared a photo of stone outside and wrote 175 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: we start our day outside and spend most of our 176 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: days outside ha ha ha he loves it. Might be 177 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: the dad in him, and then tagged Reese Hawkins. She 178 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: then added a black love heart at the end. I 179 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: was really surprised when I saw this because I thought 180 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: they were over for sure. 181 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: But this real has got me thinking. 182 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: Well, particularly because Reese Hawkins has been in Bally hanging 183 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: out with this Only Fans star. You would think that 184 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: that would have spelt the end of his marriage. 185 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: You know, he seems to be out there pursuing other opportunities. 186 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: So if you didn't listen, last week, we spoke about 187 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: how Bailey Scarlet was out and about with Reese Hawkins. 188 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: They were having smoothie bowls in Bali. It all seemed 189 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: a bit cozy, yeah, sharing identical photos, trying to make 190 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: everyone aware that they were together. Now, last week, Bailey's 191 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: Scarlet got tongues wagging when she shared a screenshot that 192 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: said she was blocked from sharing a live video because 193 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: her account had recently been removed for going against Instagram's 194 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: community guidelines. She wrote, guys, when will this go away? 195 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: I have so much tea to spill, people to put 196 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: on blast now. Bailey, if you are listening, could you 197 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: please make sure to do this before Friday's episode because 198 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: I feel like we'd really like to dive deep is 199 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: going on exactly. 200 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: I do love some good tea. 201 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't like, though, is when somebody teases it like 202 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: I just want to know the information. 203 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: Now put it out on another platform, TikTok. Perhaps put 204 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: out a big YouTube of it, like anything. I can't 205 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: wait for the we haven't even dreamed of yet. 206 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: Now, Sophie, the internet is in a frenzy because Molly 207 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: May has announced she's pregnant. The creative director of Pretty 208 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: Little Thing is expecting her first child with professional boxer 209 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: Tommy Fury, who, of course, she met on Love Island 210 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: back in twenty nineteen. Soph I know you love Molly May, 211 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: and I thought of you instantly when I saw the announcement. Oh, 212 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: I am ashamed to say that I actually saw this 213 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: announcement whilst I was sitting on the toilet scrolling very 214 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: late at night, and I immediately direct message it to 215 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: you guys, and I screamed out to Brandon in the bathroom, 216 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: Molly May is. 217 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: Pregnant and he's like what. 218 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: When I first saw the real because it started with 219 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: a scene of her and Tommy from the finale of 220 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: Love Island, and she was saying something sappy about she 221 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: can't wait for the memories ahead. I thought it was 222 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: going to be an engagement announcement me too, and then 223 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: I was really shocked. 224 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: To see how far along she was in the pregnancy. 225 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: She had this beautiful baby bump. 226 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: And I was also shocked because it's only since I've 227 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: sort of taken a deeper look into the pregnancy that 228 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: I've discovered that people have been speculating about this pregnancy 229 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: for about six weeks now. 230 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: There was a. 231 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Post in Tattle in early September talking about the fact 232 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: and that giving their reasons as to why she might 233 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: be pregnant. I do remember there was a recent vlog 234 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: that she put up and she said something about being 235 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: late for her period, but she'd of course tell everybody 236 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: if she was pregnant, and then she's like, no, no, 237 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: I got my period. So I wonder if they've either 238 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: been trying or I do recall Molly saying that she 239 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: wasn't on any birth control, so it might be one 240 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: of those beautiful accidents. Well. She has been quite vocal 241 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: in talking about her struggles with endometriosis, so in June 242 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, she shared that she had been diagnosed 243 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: with endometriosis after experiencing excruciating periods, and later in October 244 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: she revealed she had had surgery for endometriosis. So it 245 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: is a beautiful surprise that they are pregnant. As we say, 246 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: we're not quite sure yet if it was planned or not, 247 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: but her and Tommy have been quite vocal saying that 248 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: they do want to be our parents, and it's beautiful 249 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: that this is happening for them. They are only twenty three. 250 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: Obviously that is very young, but it seems like that 251 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: is their mission in life, to have children. I feel 252 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: like in the influencer world, everybody seems to have kids 253 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:20,959 Speaker 1: really young. 254 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: You think of Chloe Zepp and Mitch awful Well. 255 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: I think it's also the fact that a lot of 256 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: influencers are financially stable, so they can support themselves and 257 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: get onto that next stage of their life. Now, I 258 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the only one that was interested in this news 259 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: at the time of recording. The video has a mass 260 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: twenty one million and two point three million likes and 261 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: there are forty thousand comments. I did comment on there 262 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: because someone in. 263 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: One of our listeners said, oh my god, are you 264 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: going to be talking about this? 265 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yes we are. I just can't wait to see 266 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: what kind of vlogger Molly May becomes like, do you 267 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: think she's going to be a full blown mummy vlogger 268 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: now or do you think she'll try and keep the 269 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: identity of her child's secret Because there's been so much 270 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: controversy around the burglary that took place. I wonder if 271 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: they'll be concerned about the child's safety. Well, considering they've 272 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: done a bit of a backflip over their privacy, I. 273 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: Think they'll be sharing their child. 274 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: It probably will be difficult to get away from their 275 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: papt all the time anyway, So I feel for a 276 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: manager fran right now, she must be receiving so many 277 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: brand deals, like because you've got to remember when an 278 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: influencer becomes a new mum, every pregnancy, every baby product 279 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: wants to work with that person. And Molly May is 280 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 1: probably the biggest influencer in the UK. Everybody wants a 281 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: piece of her right now. Yeah, definitely now. In this 282 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: announcement video, I was quite surprised that she did include 283 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the clip from Love Ireland because for a number of 284 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: years now she has been trying really hard to distance 285 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: herself from the show. Yeah, but it's a cute vision 286 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: of both of them. I suppose they can't get Away 287 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: from the Foot. 288 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: That's how they met. 289 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: They're also still really good friends with fellow Love Island 290 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: contestant Maura Higgins, and she has actually cops some Flat 291 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: because she shared a video on her Instagram story of 292 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: Molly getting an ultrasound and I was surprised that she 293 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: was one of the first people to share this after 294 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: the announcement. I thought that that would have been saved 295 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: for Molly's YouTube, but I love Maura Higgins. Come on, 296 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: she would have asked Molly, hey, do you mind if 297 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: I share this? But that's not the only reason she's 298 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: copying Flat. It's because if you zoom in on the 299 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: vision on the ultrasound, you can see that the scan 300 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: was done on the twenty first of July, and it 301 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: also said that Molly was in her second trimester, So 302 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: people are estimating that the child is going to. 303 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: Be born in March. So what well, it's information that 304 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: they might not want out there. 305 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: I feel like Molly is just about to drop a 306 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 1: YouTube explaining everything, like she's got the excitement going on Instagram. 307 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: It's gonna move over to YouTube very soon, and she's 308 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: probably gonna share all of these details anyway. Now people 309 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: are speculating that an engagement will come soon. So in 310 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: May they went on a trip to Dubai for Molly's 311 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: birthday and they were photographed in a Dubai jewelry store. 312 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: Looking at rings. 313 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: Oh, and I am predicting that this will happen soon. 314 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Her sister Zoey recently got engaged, so I feel like 315 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: the pressure will. 316 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: Be on Tommy. 317 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: The only thing is, I don't know if Molly would 318 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: want an engagement so soon after a pregnancy announcement. I 319 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: would feel like she probably would want the engagement announcement before. 320 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. 321 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: I think she'll want that big fat ring on her 322 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: finger because when they were in Dubai, apparently she tried 323 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: on a five carrot diamond ring worth two hundred and 324 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: twenty two thousand pounds, So I don't know. I feel 325 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: like it's the perfect accessory after you announce your pregnancy. Now, 326 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: So if I immediately went to the comment section of 327 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: a lot of articles announcing the engagement, and do you 328 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: know the one comment I kept seeing, well, besides people 329 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: tagging their friends, it was, oh, well, she's going to 330 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: find out that not everyone has the same Twenty four 331 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: hours in a day of course after that famous comment, 332 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, poor Molly, Like can we 333 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: just get over that comment already? 334 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 2: Oh. 335 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Now, another sort of unfair comment that was thrown at 336 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: the couple after this nice announcement was from American YouTuber 337 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: Jake Paul, so he took it as an opportunity to 338 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: take a swipe at Tommy. So the pair were meant 339 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: to be fighting against each other, However, the fight has 340 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: been postponed twice now. So Jake retweeted the couple's pregnancy 341 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: announcement and wrote, shocking, Tommy usually pulls out. 342 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: Oh I tried it on. 343 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: It din fit me. And so I looked at them 344 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: and I said, give me like three weeks. And I 345 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 3: had to lose pounds down today to be able to 346 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: fit this. But it was such a challenge, it was 347 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: like a roaring her men. 348 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: We wanted to issue a trigger warning for the next segment. 349 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: It discusses issues relating to restricted eating and eating disorders. 350 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: If you find the content triggering, please skip forward. Kim 351 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: Kardashian is making headlines for her dramatic weight loss, with 352 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: fans concerned her extreme new look will influence beauty standards 353 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: and reprised the dangerous heroine sheek trend of the early noughties. 354 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: Now soph you. 355 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: Concern about Kim's health has been growing for a number 356 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: of months now, but speculation was fueled further by Kim's 357 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: appearance on the James Corden show. 358 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: Yeah That's right. 359 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: So a stan account that goes by the name Kardashian 360 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: Social shared a comparison photo of Kim on the talk 361 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: show five years apart. So seeing these two photos side 362 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: by side, it really emphasized just how much Kim's appearance 363 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: has changed, really dramatically over the past couple of months 364 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: in particular, and how much. 365 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: Weight she has lost. 366 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: There has also been growing concern because of these recent 367 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: photos of Kim that have appeared from Kylie Jenna's twenty 368 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: fifth birthday that show her looking really lean and very 369 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: very slim. Now. Back in May, Kim went into great 370 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: detail about how she lost a large amount of weight 371 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: to fit into Marilyn Monroe's gown for the met Gala. 372 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: So she told Vogue that she wore a sauna suit 373 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: twice a day when working out, and she also went 374 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: into explicit detail about the sort of workout plan she 375 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: was doing and also the food that she was eating, 376 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: and she compared herself to actors who have had to 377 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: lose weight for certain roles, so she said it was 378 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: sort of within her profession to lose weight for the 379 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: Met Gala. Now, since the Met Gala, Kim has continued 380 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: to rapidly lose weight, and it is being reported what 381 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: Kim weighs and how much weight she has lost, But 382 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: we're choosing not to touch on those figures because I 383 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: don't think it's helpful. 384 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: Now. 385 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: In a recent clip, Kim's sister Kendall Jenna, was taken 386 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: back by Kim's new look. 387 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Here's what she said, I don't think you're eating what 388 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: he looks so skinny? 389 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 3: Why do we gotta thank you? 390 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 391 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: I do really want to point out while we are 392 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: having this discussion that you know, commenting on other women's 393 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: bodies is highly complicated, and in this instance, I think 394 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: it is important that we have this conversation because Kim 395 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: Kardashian's body body has been used as a universal beauty 396 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: standard for over a decade now, and when she and 397 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: her sisters hit our screens in two thousand and seven 398 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: on the first episode of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. 399 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: That is when they changed beauty standards completely, because Kim 400 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: changed the ideal body shape from super skinny to curvy 401 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: someone with a big bum, big boob's flat stomach, and 402 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: that has been sort of the ideal body. 403 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: Shape for quite some time now. 404 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: And now with her new look, she seems to be 405 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: driving home a completely different message about being super skinny. 406 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: And it does appear and there is a lot of 407 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: speculation that this heroin chic look is making a comeback. 408 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: Which is so worrying. 409 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: Well, Kim is arguably one of the most famous women 410 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: in the world, and when young girls sit down and 411 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: watch the Kardashians and they say Chloe and also Kim 412 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: looking like that, they're going to go, well, now I 413 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: want to look like that. Think of how many people 414 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: went and got Brazilian bum lifts to look like the Kardashians. 415 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: This is the new look right now. She's just really, 416 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: really scary and really troubling because even Sophie you're talking about, 417 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, Kendall's comments, for Kim to say, oh thank you, 418 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: it's sort of just driving home that rhetoric of the 419 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: ninety Well, there is a lot of speculation that the 420 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: Kardashians are currently trying to reinvent themselves to appeal to 421 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: the gen ze audience. There's also rumors being thrown around 422 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: that perhaps they've lost weight due to stress or depression. 423 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: You know, Kim is recently going through a divorce. Perhaps 424 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: there's some drug taking or weight loss pills involved. These 425 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: are all rumors at the moment, so none of this 426 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: is fact. Well, they've both talked about and this is 427 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 1: Chloe and Kim. They've both spoken a lot about their 428 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: fitness regimes. They've both got personal trainers. I think they've 429 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: both got gyms in their house as well, so they've 430 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: always taken the gym quite seriously. But I think it's 431 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: just been taken to that next level, hasn't it where 432 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: it's quite concerning. Well, Kim's obsession with weight loss, it 433 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: does have a very long history because she's promoted appetite 434 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: suppressant lollypo and meal replacement shakes that aren't backed by 435 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: proper research or approved by the FDA. So she does 436 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: have a long history of promoting this sort of toxic 437 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: diet culture to young girls. Skinny teas all the Kardashians 438 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: are promoting them. At one point and the scary thing 439 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: is they've got so much money they don't need to 440 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: be pushing these type of products. But for me, it's 441 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: not also just the weight loss. So Kim and Chloe, 442 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: they are moving towards a very different esthetic. So in 443 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: the past, the Kardashians have been accused of cultural appropriation 444 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: and for performing blackness via their beauty and fashion choices. However, 445 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: this year she's really transitioned away from that look, and 446 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: it does look like she is trying to reinvent herself. 447 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: So this year she's got rid of the spray tans, 448 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: she no longer wears any of the box sprays, she 449 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: doesn't overline her lips, her hair is blonde, and she 450 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: is noticeably thinner and less curby as we've touched on, 451 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: and there has been speculation on TikTok that she has 452 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: had her supposed Brazilian butt lift removed. Well, I think 453 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: people were saying that she actually had bum injections, and 454 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: so she just hasn't been getting them, because if you 455 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: think about it, if you were taking out bum implants, 456 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: that's quite a severe surgery. She hasn't been out of 457 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: the spotlight long enough. But if she's just gone no, 458 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm not getting these filler procedures or whatever it is anymore. 459 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: There was also a lot of discussion about how the 460 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: Kardashians seem to dress for their men. Yeah. Well, journalist 461 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 1: Stacy Lee Kong from Friday Things, she put it really well. 462 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: She said, they look like the rich white women they 463 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: are because they're moving away from the black fishing that 464 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: they got criticized for. And Kim really soft launched this 465 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: look at the met Gala and the platinum blonde hair 466 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: and the much slimmer physike, It does really constitute a 467 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: totally different type of sex appeal than anything that we've 468 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,959 Speaker 1: seen from her before. So Kim's new look has been 469 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: dubbed her return to whiteness. 470 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: So MJ. 471 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Cory, who runs an Instagram account called Kardashian Colloquium, wrote, 472 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: recent discourse has been that Kim Kardashian is white again, 473 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: which might be another way to say Kim Kardashian is 474 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: yet again averaging her racial mutability. He continued, the Kardashian 475 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: success is attributable to black appropriation, whether outrage baiting by 476 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: donning braids or stealing business names from black women. Now, 477 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: as Kim moves on from her marriage to Kanye West 478 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: and seems to be having the biggest year her career 479 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: has ever seen. We're also seeing a starkly blonde and 480 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: strikingly thin Kim. This, of course, is the aesthetic from 481 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: which she was notably othered during the beginning as Paris 482 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: Hilton's exotic sidekick. As Kim dominates everything in her pass 483 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: from massive luxury fashion campaigns to breaking the Internet all 484 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: over again with controversial Marilyn Munroe cosplay, She's finally coming 485 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 1: for the archetype she was once gate kept from for 486 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: being too brown. The thing that makes this whole topic 487 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: more laid and extra complicated is the fact that Kim 488 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: Kardashian is mixed race, so she is part Armenian. And 489 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 1: the thing is that people don't so much mind if 490 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: she reinvents herself, but if she is, I think people 491 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: would much prefer her to embrace her Armenian features instead 492 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: of turning herself into this skinny, blonde white woman. 493 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: It's isn't it. 494 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 1: And it's also someone who she would have come up 495 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: against in the past, because when Kim Karashian came onto 496 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: the scene, she was praised for the fact that she 497 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: was different She wasn't this Hollywood blonde bombshell. She was 498 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: someone who was curvy and fun and had this big 499 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: bomb and was a different type of sex appeal. And 500 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: the fact that she's now leaning back into something that 501 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 1: she originally changed it just seems so absurd. I think 502 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: that's the whole thing of trying to be something you're 503 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: not so at first. You know, people have accused her 504 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: of trying to blackfish, and now she's trying to go 505 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: too far white. It seems like she's trying to go 506 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: for that Barbie esthetic when why can't she just lean 507 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: into her natural looks. 508 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 2: The whole thing is I. 509 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: Do feel for women in the industry, particularly those when 510 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: they do get into their forties, because a lot of 511 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: the time it's women in the industry who have to 512 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: constantly reinvent themselves, it's not men. 513 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: So she is staying. 514 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: Relevant by doing this, you know, reinvention of herself. However, 515 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of worrying messages being put out to young, 516 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: impressionable people, and I think that she needs to be 517 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: very careful with the details that she goes into when 518 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: discussing how she looks this way and how she got 519 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: these in quotes results. 520 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: We have had the holiday from Hell. 521 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Fitness influences. Sophie, Jane Miller, and Georgia Richards have shared 522 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: about the reality of brand trips. Sophie, what went down 523 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: on their trip? Well, I've been following this trip quite 524 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: closely because the two of them are in Europe as 525 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: part of a jym Shark campaign. So they've been in 526 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: London and also Italy and France and they've been having 527 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: the time of their life. Sophie's been doing a lot 528 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: of traveling because she was recently in America on some 529 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: other brand trip with Jada twinsc. 530 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: Show and Disneyland. Yeah, that's it. 531 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: So she has been traveling around a lot, so you 532 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 1: think that she would be good at navigating airports. So basically, 533 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: Sophie and Georgia they were catching a flight from Pols 534 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: to Paris and the flight was forty five minutes delayed, 535 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: so they were under a bit of stress because they 536 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: had a connecting flight from Paris back to London with 537 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: a very quick turnaround, and they were a little bit 538 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: worried on their flight, but they tried to remain optimistic. 539 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: So as soon as they landed, they sprinted through the airport, 540 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: through the passport control and to their gate and the 541 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: gate was closed. But unlike most flight attendants who usually 542 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: screw you over, they actually managed to get them on 543 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: the flight just minutes before it took off. Now, I'm 544 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: not sure if that's because their influencers. 545 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: I doubt it. They might just be being nice. There's 546 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: the thing. Some flight attendants are very nice. 547 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: It's usually the actual airline that screws you over anyway. 548 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 1: So they shared all these Instagram stories looking very pleased 549 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: with themselves that they'd managed to get on the flight. 550 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: I did feel bad for everyone else on the flight 551 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: because they had to sit around for thirty five. 552 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 2: Minutes while the girls got on and while they waited 553 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: for them. 554 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: So yeah, they would not have been popp Was that 555 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: to get their bags and everything on the fly. Well, 556 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: that's funny you asked that, because when they arrived in 557 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: London they were told that their luggage didn't make the 558 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: flight and was still back in Paris. What makes it 559 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: worse is that they didn't even have any hand luggage 560 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: with them, so they kept that with their original bag. 561 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: So okay, I think it was because the plane was 562 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: too small to have hand luggage, so Basically, they only 563 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: had their phones and a couple of books with them, 564 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: and their phones were on fifteen percent. So they got 565 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: to their airbnb and they just put in a movie 566 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: because there was literally nothing that they could do. 567 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 2: So they had nothing with them, so that no clothes, 568 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: no makeup wipes. That would be the. 569 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: Worst feeling ever, because I feel like some people would go, oh, 570 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: that's such a freeing feeling, because I know when Dale 571 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: went to Vietnam with his sister, probably like ten years ago, 572 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: he went to the bag carousel and waited and waited 573 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: and his bag just didn't come out, and he was like, Okay, 574 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: well that's fine, I'll just you know, I just buy 575 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: a toruthbrush and stuff. 576 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,959 Speaker 2: And that's a that is my nightmare. 577 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: I know. I travel with my hand luggage stock for 578 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: that exact reason. I have my hair straight and I've 579 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: got my makeup. Yeah, makeup wise, makeup whites would be 580 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: the worst thing. Can you imagine coming to this airbnb 581 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: and having to scrub your face. 582 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: With soap or that would be the worst. 583 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: What about all your valuables as well? Because I always 584 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: want my valuables in my hand luggage bag. It's it's 585 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: actually making me feel ill, especially the fact that if 586 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: you're not used to an area, so even like if 587 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: your phone's on fifteen percent you run out of battery, 588 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: you've got no map on your phone. I actually feel 589 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: really sorry for the girls. This sounded horrendous. At least 590 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: they're in London, at least people speak English there. 591 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: Could it be worse? 592 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: Well? I did feel sorry for the girls because when 593 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: their luggage rocked up, they then had to take it 594 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: up five sets of stairs. So it's been a bit 595 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: of an ordeal but free trip at the end of 596 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: the day, is it really though. 597 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: Or do you think they're paying to be over there? 598 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: Gym Shark is paying them to be there? 599 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: Amy? 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