1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Well, there is certainly a lot happening around the Northern Territory, 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: and no doubt plenty happening in Federal Parliament. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: I know that the Member for Solomon, Luke Gosling. 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,159 Speaker 1: We thought he was going to be a little bit 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: later because the bells were ringing in Federal Parliament, but 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: he joins us on the line right now. 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Good morning to you, Luke. 8 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 3: Oh good Katie. How are you? 9 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 10 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 2: Good now, Luke. 11 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: I want to ask you firstly about the situation that 12 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: we well, we found out obviously yesterday this announcement that 13 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Australia's first endometriosis and pelvic pain clinics right across all 14 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: states and territories, including one for right here in the 15 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: Northern Territory in Coconut Grove. Tell us a little bit 16 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: more about this service and how soon it will be operational. 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks Katie. It's a great step forward for women's 18 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 3: health services in the non Territory and Darwin in particular, 19 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: and I've spoken with them this morning following the announcement, 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: north Side Health in Coconut Grove with a successful tenderer 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: through the private so the health network and they're working 22 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 3: with the department now they'll receive around seven hundred thousand 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: dollars to provide specialist endometriosis and pelvic pain services. Whereas 24 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: territory women. Thousands of territory women are affected and in 25 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: the past it's e's have gone undiagnosed and caused multiple 26 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: issues into the future, or you know, when territory women 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 3: just didn't accept the advices they were getting locally and 28 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: if they thought there were some diagnosis they would have 29 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: to go and see specialists and take expensive flights in 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: the States of Brisbane. So it's great that we're going 31 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 3: to have our own dedicated specialist service and it'll be 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: up and running very soon. 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really good news. 34 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that one in nine Aussie women 35 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: can suffer and a lot of the time suffering really 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: quite severely with endometriosis. I think that, you know, it 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: is going to be music to there is to hear 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to get that support 39 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: right here in the Northern Territory rather than potentially having 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: to travel away. 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, Codie. And you know, I didn't 42 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: know anything about indometriosis until one day one of my colleagues, 43 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: Gabe Brodman, who's a former Member for Canberra who's suffered 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: from ENDO for many years. You know, she got up 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: when she got some specialist support and help and realized 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: what it was, got diagnosed, and she got up in 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 3: Parliament gave a speech and I was just listening and 48 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: just for a while I wonder how many territory women 49 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: are affected by this. We held some forums over the 50 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: last few years just to raise some awareness and now 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: we've got to a point where we're funding a dedicated 52 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 3: clinic in Cacnut Go, which is a great result, but 53 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: we need to do more. I've already been talking with 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 3: Marion Scrimdaw and the Minister about an Alice Springs ENDO 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 3: and public pain clinics. We have to announce that in 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: the future in the second round of clinics, so that'll 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 3: be great news for territories down in the center. But yeah, 58 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: MAHA goes out to so many women who have just 59 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 3: been in pain and in some cases is told to 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: go home and have a panadole and you'll be right, 61 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: or told to go and get pregnant and that or 62 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: fix everything up. But it's a more serious and complex 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: issue than that, and often that can lead to infertility 64 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: in about half the cases. So it's really serious health issue. Yeah, 65 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: and we're going to have a dedicated clinic for it. 66 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 67 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: It most certainly is. 68 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: Hey, Louke, I do just want to ask you because 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: this is very much breaking news this morning. 70 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: We know that moves toward. 71 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Constitutional recognition for Indigenous Australians. They're certainly pushing ahead. After 72 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the Prime Minister revealed this morning the wording of the 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: upcoming referendum question on the Voice to Parliament, Mister Albinezi, 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: standing alongside the referendum working Group, said that the question 75 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: would be a proposed law to alter the Constitution to 76 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: recognize the first peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal 77 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: and Torres Strait Islander Voice. Do you approve this proposed 78 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: alteration so that indeed looks as though it is going 79 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: to be the question? Luke, do you think how do 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: you think this is going to go? 81 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 3: I'm confident, Katie. I think that I was just speaking 82 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 3: to a young leadership group this morning and just put 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: forward the proposal to them, and a lot of people 84 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,280 Speaker 3: have had questions about what the question is going to be. 85 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: And you know, we've arrived at that point now, which 86 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: was great, although until you read it out, I hadn't 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: heard the final form of words. We've been consulting on 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: that for a little while, being flat out with stuff 89 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: this morning. But it's a pretty simple proposition to say, 90 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: you know, let's recognize in our constitution first Nations people one, 91 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: and that there's going to be a consultative body to 92 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 3: the Parliament, to the ministers in order to get better outcomes. 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 3: And I think we can all agree that we haven't 94 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 3: got the outcomes that we need. And what I've found 95 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: throughout my life is when you get input, buy in 96 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: from the community, I think there's going to be more responsibility. 97 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: We're quite out of representatives who are part of the 98 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: voice as well. With representation and with a voice also 99 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: comes responsibility to work with that community to get the 100 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: outcomes we want. It's just not an avenue by which 101 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 3: you can say, oh, we need more money, more money. 102 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: It's like we've consulted with our people around these issues. 103 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 3: We're concerned about AB and C. But there's also a 104 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 3: mutual obligation, I think in terms of responsibility, because we 105 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: all know that we need to improve in a lot 106 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 3: of areas. In terms of rental responsibility and other issues. 107 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: And I think that's going to be much more likely 108 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: if we've got the buy in from the people who 109 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: are affected by these laws, if they've gotten input into it. 110 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: Look, I know there's a lot of people that will 111 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: be listening that are concerned that you know that this 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: is going to wind up though, being a body that 113 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have true representation on the ground in those communities. 114 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: And you know, we're here in the Northern Territory about 115 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: thirty three percent of our population is Indigenous. You know, 116 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: are we going to have the representation on that body 117 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: that the Northern Territory actually needs and deserves. 118 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent. That has been something that myself 119 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: and Marion and Melanderie McCarthy have been working through this 120 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: whole time. Is that if it was simply the majority 121 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: of Aboriginal people living New South Wales, So if it 122 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: was going to be a situation as I know some 123 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: people in our community sphere, that it would be East Coast. 124 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: What people say maybe the elites that dominate the voice. 125 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: We've got commitments around specific carve outs preferential representation from 126 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: regional and remote and that is to take it into 127 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: account places like the Territory and Northern Queensland and the 128 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: Kimberley and there there the places where we've got the 129 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: deepest connections to traditional life and continuing culture, but also 130 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: significant issues and dysfunction. So we need to have proper 131 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: representation so that whatever laws the Commonwealth may are appropriate 132 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: and will not disadvantage and in fact will proactively advantage 133 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: Aboriginal territories across the North in particular. 134 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: Well it makes the change you to a lot of 135 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: the issues that are being experienced around northern parts of Australia, 136 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: but particularly here the Northern Territory. You know, we want 137 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: to see some positive change one undred percent. 138 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 3: It's too much. Too much suicide, too much murder, you know, 139 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 3: too much crime. There's too many victims, and there's victims 140 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 3: of intergenerational trauma, and there's victims in that there's young 141 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: Aboriginal Territorians who are on the back foot from before 142 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 3: they're even born because they're affected by fetal alcohol syndrome. 143 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: So we've got all these issues that we need to 144 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: deal with, but we need real buying and real commitment 145 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: from the stakeholders. That's what a voice allows, is a 146 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: proper consultative mechanism will make sure that the territory is 147 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: well represented. And let's face it, we're not getting the 148 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 3: outcomes we need in terms of closing the gap. This 149 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 3: is something new that respects people but also will demand 150 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: responsibility as well, and I think it's going to be 151 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: good for our nation. 152 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: Look a question from Baz. 153 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Now this is a bit off topic, but he wants 154 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: to know what happened with all those fuel levers that 155 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: you committed to pulling. 156 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: Three months ago. 157 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 3: Fuel levers. 158 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: Yes, So any changes to the petrol prices. 159 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 3: The peture prices, well, they're not determined by the federal government, 160 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: but we've been doing everything that we can. People would 161 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: have seen we've become involved in setting maximum energy prices 162 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: gas prices. We're not part of that. We're not part 163 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: of that mechanism in terms of not on the same grid, 164 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 3: but we've been working hard to minimize increase in energy 165 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 3: prices across the East Coast. We've got our own electricity 166 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 3: market and the NT so we have been intervening in 167 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: that way. The AROOP, we'll see, continues to keep an 168 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: eye on fuel gouging. Everyone would have seen that the 169 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: campaign that I and others ran meant that the price 170 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: of fuel when that exercise come back on didn't go 171 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 3: back up twenty two cents or whatever it was. So 172 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 3: we have been able to keep pressure on the fuel 173 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 3: companies not to. 174 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: Gouge high though aren't they They're still high. 175 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 3: They are, they are one hundred percent, but they're not 176 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: as high as they could have been. And that's the 177 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: if the whole exits had have been put back on. 178 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, I'm not here to defend 179 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: the fuel producers, but there was there was some There 180 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: was some concession given that they were taking the piece 181 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: was a language I think I used at the time. 182 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 3: I think it did working. They were gouging Territorians and 183 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: they did moderate their prices for wile, but it's it's 184 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: like airline prices when I get Qunnice in the my 185 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: office and just say, you know, you just wanting to 186 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: make all of your loss during COVID back too quickly. 187 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: And the people who are most affective, the people like 188 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 3: in Darwin, Yeah, who are having to pay this extraordinary 189 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: amount for flights. And I just said to some constituents 190 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 3: who raise the issue of the cost of flights again 191 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: with me recently, that you know, we might have to 192 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 3: start at the fairfaares nt campaign again because. 193 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 2: Well, I reckon, we probably need to. 194 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: It's bloody ridiculous, it is insane at the moment, the 195 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: cost of flights. 196 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: I'd be right on to that. 197 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: And you know, we're trying to sustainably grow our population, 198 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: grow our economy. We know as the DSR will come 199 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: out and we'll talk about that in the future of 200 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: the Defense Strategic Review and what that means for Darwin 201 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: and the Northern Territory more broadly. But we need people 202 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: to be able to affordably get down south to catch 203 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 3: up with family, friends, go to the footy, take a holiday, whatever, 204 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 3: and then people will come and live in Darwen in 205 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: greater numbers. That'll be good, good for our community. 206 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 2: It's got to have that connectivity. 207 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I just take to say the Badge, you know, 208 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: it takes his vigilance, our vigilance, and keep an eye 209 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 3: on the prices, keep getting the feedback out there, and 210 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 3: I'll keep representing down here and talking to the Minister 211 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: for Northern Australia and the Minister of the Resources who 212 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 3: is going to be in Darwin in April for a 213 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: for a critical minerals conference, and she'll be getting getting 214 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: around and we'll have her on your Showcatie, and we 215 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: can talk about a whole range of issues such as 216 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: that energy and fuel price. 217 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: And well, look, we would we would definitely be keen 218 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: for that. Luke Gosling, we are going to have to 219 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: leave it there. Really appreciate your time this morning. Thanks 220 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: so much for having a chat with us. 221 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 3: Good on you, Katie. We got a bit of ground. 222 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 223 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: Thanks, Mike. Appreciated