1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 2: wants answers. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 3: Now, well, it's finally done. Parental Guidance Season two has 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 3: come to a close. We've talked about it at nauseum 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 3: on the podcast for the last couple of weeks, and 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: now we have one last conversation that has to be had, 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: and that is with the ultimate star of the show. 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: I feel like there needs to be some drum rolls. 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 3: We have Jr. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: For that. 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: I'm really excited for this. Of all the people that 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: we could talk to, I love talking to the parents, 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: I love understanding what's going through their minds. I love 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: the way we've been able to incorporate the show into 16 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 3: the podcast. But really everybody just wants to know what 17 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: Allison Langdon thinks about the Parental Guidance season two. And so, 18 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: just like at the beginning of the season, you interviewed 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: Melissa MacLean, the executive producer of the show, and I 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: stayed quiet except when I couldn't help myself. You're in 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: the hot seat again. You've starting to create a bit 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: of a habit of doing high quality interviews missus Happy Families. 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: So it's over to you talking with Allison Langdon, the 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: host of the hit TV show Parental Guidance on Channel nine. 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: And I believe, Alie, you also do some other show 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: that I'm not sure if it's as popular as Parental Guidance. 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: How do you what's that? What's what's the name of it? Again? 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 2: Were you still on my thunder again? I know. 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know what you were going to ask. I 30 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: was trying to be tricky and cheeky. 31 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: But Allie, your routine has changed. You've gone from morning 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: TV with the Today Show and now you're doing a 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 2: current affair. How have your mornings changed at home? 34 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: The mornings are a revelation. It is it is a 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: man And can I say I let my kids in 36 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 4: the morning a lot more than my kids at night, right, 37 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,919 Speaker 4: And They've been a big part of the change for thinking, 38 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 4: Oh gee, but I'm home every night with the kids. 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: I picked them up from school every afternoon, even though 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: I'm not there in the mornings. And now I just find, 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: you know what, They're delightful in the mornings. They're sweet, 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: and they're still cuddly and we have cuddles in bed. 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 4: I don't even call work till after we've walked them 44 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: to school, so I had sort of my work brain 45 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: doesn't even kick in till nine o'clock and they're up 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 4: at five thirty in the morning. So I have this 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: enormous time with them where the TV doesn't go on, 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: there's no technology, it's us as a family, and it 49 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: is wonderful, so good. 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: That is amazing. Congratulations on season two are Parental Guidance. 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: It must have gone really really well. I know that 52 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: it went well, but it must have gone really well 53 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: for us to have another season under our belt. And 54 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if, now that we've got a second season, 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: if you have been thinking about your own parenting style 56 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: and whether or not you see it in other parents, 57 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: or whether or not your parenting styles actually changed as 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 2: a result of being on the show. 59 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 4: You know what, I would say it changed significantly after 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: the first and during the first season of Parental Guidance. 61 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: For one, I just got to sit next to your 62 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: delightful husband every time and Picky's brains. Most conversations will 63 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 4: start with so like I've got this friend who does this, 64 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: and it's like al al, yeah, okay, this. 65 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: Is actually that, this is actually true. 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: I know I don't tell lies. 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: And you know, and I could tell by his reaction 68 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 4: in his face if that was a good parenting hack 69 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: or not. 70 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: And it's hiding things, is he no? 71 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: No, no, not at all. He's his face doesn't lie. 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: I can't tell I like any and and so it 73 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: was just it was just wonderful, especially that first season 74 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 4: because my husband I'd never even talked about how we parent, 75 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: and so I think from from that point it was 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: great that we just had this conversation and we kind 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: of worked out what we do is what we do. 78 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 4: But there were really key things that Justin told me, 79 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: and that was things like, you know, and we had 80 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: our kids then were what three and five or two 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: and four, I would do the whole stop, just calm down, 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,239 Speaker 4: and you know, and I remember Justin saying to me, okay, Alie, 83 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 4: So say you're worked up about something and your husband, 84 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 4: Mike turns and tells you to calm down. Do you 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 4: come down? 86 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: Go? I come out of him with helicopter ass if 87 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: you had to tell me that, and it so, why 88 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: do you think your kids are any different? 89 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, you know, now that you say 90 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: it feels really obvious and sounds obvious, but it's all 91 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 4: those really little tricks and just getting down on their 92 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 4: level when they're having those big emotions as opposed to like, 93 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 4: you know, losing McColl with it, which I previously did. 94 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: And this season was just great because I think it's 95 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: branched out with those sort of styles that we saw, 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: and once again it's one where you go, Okay, I 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 4: see how that one works in that environment and that 98 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 4: that is perfect for there, and you do you pick 99 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: up different hacks and bits and pieces that different parenting 100 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: styles do, and some that probably wouldn't necessarily fit with 101 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 4: how I would sit naturally. You know, I learned a 102 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 4: lot from the gentle parents and the spiritual parents, and 103 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 4: I don't think that's where I sort of naturally sit 104 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: in my parenting style. It's more kind of free range 105 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: and sometimes strict. I don't know, it's still all over 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: the shop. 107 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 3: Right, but I was about to compliment you for yourself 108 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 3: awareness and it just went everywhere. It's everywhere. 109 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 4: It's still everywhere, but it's slightly more consistently everywhere. 110 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: So there's very little on TV that is actually instructive 111 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: and you know, generally useful practical for parents especially do 112 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: you feel any sense of responsibility to how things come 113 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: across on the show, or are you just happy to 114 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: kind of let things flow. 115 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: I definitely feel a responsibilit I think it's something that 116 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 4: justin probably feels as well, because we want to be 117 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: celebrating parenthood and however on parents, and we want to 118 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 4: be celebrating the kids because we're all there but the 119 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 4: same goal in mind, if we want to raise these wonderful, kind, 120 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: well rounded children who go out and do amazing things 121 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 4: in the world. So every single person in that room 122 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 4: wants the same thing for their kids, and so you 123 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: feel a great responsibility to ensure that each style is 124 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 4: represented fairly, I guess because there are moments where you 125 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,559 Speaker 4: have certain challenges where certain styles they shine and others 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: kind of do fall apart under those particular pressures. But 127 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 4: you also know that the next time we get to 128 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 4: the next challenge, it's probably going to shift entirely and 129 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 4: it's going to be the other way around. So you 130 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: really do you really feel that you know every single 131 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: person in that room is doing their very best to 132 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 4: be the best parent they can be, and so you 133 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: want to make sure that that is celebrated. Would you 134 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: agree with that justin I think that was something that 135 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: was sort of top of our list really with this show. 136 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Hundred percent. There's something that I also I know this 137 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: is Kylie's interview with you, Ali, but I really want 138 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: to do what I always do and say a bit 139 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: more than I probably should. I actually want to compliment 140 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: you watching the season back, watching what happened. I mean, 141 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: because we sit there and the days are long, right, 142 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: we have these long days in the studio and the 143 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: conversations along. We've taken like six full days of studio time, 144 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 3: ten hours a day in the studio, and condensed it 145 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: into these seven episodes of parental guidance. What I saw 146 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: in you, I'm not quite sure how to put it 147 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: to words, because I wasn't preparing for an interview. It 148 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: was all Kylie. But as Kylie's asked that question, you've 149 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: given that answer. I guess I just really wanted to 150 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: compliment you, Alie, the human way in which you come across, 151 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: the way that you related to the families, and the 152 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: way that you I mean, there were so many times 153 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: when you look at me and you're blubbering on the 154 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: TV about what we've just seen happen. 155 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: That's not true. 156 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 4: I never cry. I'm super tough and I'm heart all right, 157 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: and don't you go ruining this for me. Justin all right, 158 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: I've worked very hard. I've got a reputivity. 159 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you did some serious damage to 160 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 3: reputation because it was a real. 161 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: We feel it, right like you know, those those those 162 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: moments when you when you see one of them, you know, 163 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 4: and there's there's a particular challenge in I think it's 164 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 4: in the first episode to do with with online and 165 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: when you see a parent's reaction to something that they've 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: spoken to their kids about and and then you see 167 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 4: them do something entirely different and unexpected, and that we 168 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: all feel that, Yeah, we all feel for that parent. 169 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 4: And you know, there's not a single person in that 170 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: room thinking, oh, gee, well that wouldn't have happened, because 171 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: my parenting style is this, We just every one of 172 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: us just felt for that family, and all of us 173 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 4: imagined it was our kids in that scenario. 174 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: And I look at it. 175 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 4: You know, my kids are still little, I mean, you know, 176 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 4: getting a little bit older, but a lot of this stuff, 177 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 4: I know that this is all the stuff that's coming 178 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: ahead of me. And yeah, I think you just you 179 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: put yourself in it for a lot, and you just 180 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 4: you just feel for everybody when it doesn't go the 181 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 4: way they want it to go. 182 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 3: Kyler, did you hear a little of fear in Allie's voice? 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: Is she said that my kids are getting older, and. 184 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: It's just that. 185 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 4: Like a little bit of fear, like shaking with fear. Well, 186 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 4: but that was one of the things that did teach 187 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 4: me to like, like, I am fearful of technology with 188 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 4: I mean not fifth, I mean I just don't like it, 189 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: I guess at the end of the day, and so 190 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 4: I think it's that one thing I should keep out 191 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 4: of our kids' lives as much as possible. But that 192 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 4: was one thing I learned from it from this show 193 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 4: is that you can't do that. I mean, it's here 194 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 4: you can be really responsible in how you use it. 195 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 4: And it comes down to Justin's three c's. I can't 196 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 4: remember what the seas stand for. 197 00:09:54,200 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: Remember you sound very intelligent being able to say that 198 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: you know the three seeds. 199 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: You know that Justin has three seeds. I'll send you 200 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 3: a copy of my new book. Okay, I don't know 201 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 3: if you've got the Parenting Revolution yet, but you should 202 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: have gotten the media copy, but if you don't, I'll 203 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: get a copy to you because those three seeds are important. 204 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what's the one that's bad again? What's 205 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: the bad seed? The bad I mean, not the bad, 206 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: not that bad seat the other bade you talk. You 207 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: talk about the screen seeds, the three seeds of screens screen. Ah, yeah, okay, 208 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: so I thought you were talking about different three seeds. 209 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: You're not complicating. 210 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: I love the literation. People remember well. I thought people 211 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 3: remembered things when they used the literation, but evidently they don't. 212 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 3: They just remember there were three seeds, so there was 213 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: I've just gone blank. How bad is that people use 214 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: screens for creation, for connection, and for consumption? 215 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: Consumption? 216 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: That's the bad one, yea, well, not always, not always. 217 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: You can't tarnish your consumption with it's bad. But let's 218 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: not go down that avenue because I don't. 219 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 2: Want to just stop hijack. 220 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to send k close interview sideways. 221 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: We had this really nice moment there just a minute ago. Ali, 222 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: We're going to go back there because emotions were actually 223 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 2: really close to the surface a lot of times on 224 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 2: the screen, and I'm guessing that that's probably quite a 225 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: unique experience for you as a host. I'm wondering how 226 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 2: you've found having to navigate I guess the emotional temperature 227 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: in the room and whether or not that was particularly 228 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: draining for you. 229 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: I'll admit there wasn't much left in the tank by 230 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: the end of each day because it is exactly that, 231 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: and because you want these conversations to you want everyone 232 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 4: to get their point across, and we still it's television. 233 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 4: It's still to be entertaining. So you know, when there's 234 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 4: a bit of fire in the room, it's great, but 235 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 4: you've still got to manage that and ensure that everyone's 236 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: being respectful in that. So, I mean you would have seen, 237 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: like with there are different times when the parenting style 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: does extraordinarily well and then other times when it's really 239 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 4: under pressure, and when that room really challenges that parenting style, 240 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: it can it gets heated and you don't want to 241 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 4: stop that debate because it's kind of what we're there for. 242 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 4: But you've also got to be really mindful of how 243 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: everyone's reacting to it and how much people can take 244 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 4: in regards to that criticism. So I think you know, 245 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: justin and I of sitting in those chairs when everyone's talking, 246 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: you're reading the rest of the room, and you're sort 247 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: of you're sort of seeing then how far you can 248 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: push some of these conversations, and when it's time to 249 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 4: sort of, you know, step in and remind, you know, 250 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 4: remind everyone that we're humans and to sort of just 251 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 4: be mindful of that. 252 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 2: I think one of the strengths of the show is 253 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: the fact that you see the good, the bad, and 254 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 2: the ugly. It's not a betrayal of perfect parenting. And 255 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: like you acknowledged, in one moment, they just shine and 256 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: in the next moment they crash. And the reality that 257 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: all of us experiences that on a day to day 258 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: basis is just really powerful to watch as a viewer. 259 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 4: We all have good days and bad days. Yeah, totally, 260 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: and we just don't have a camera a TV crew 261 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:14,959 Speaker 4: in our house when it happens. 262 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: And again, I think the other powerful thing is being 263 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: able to watch it happen almost in real time and 264 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: recognize how we're acting counter to the way we actually believe. 265 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: And the thing that stands out to me with that 266 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 2: one is Deepak when he talks about how his children 267 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: are his great as teachers, and then he does the 268 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: reverse parking challenge and in that, you know, in that moment, 269 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 2: that high stressful moment, he's kind of going, no, no, 270 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 2: don't trust her, trust me, trust my voice. 271 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: My voice is more important than what happened. 272 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: Correct and total total failure right then and there. But 273 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: the fact that these parents were, for the most part, 274 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: really humble in the acknowledgment. Yeah, I actually got that 275 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: really wrong that time. And that's why I'm here. I 276 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: want to be better. I want to learn. 277 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 4: And that's the nice thing, isn't it. Because I remember 278 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: when this show started, was it going to be something 279 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 4: where all these parents come in and it's this my 280 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 4: way is the best, and no other parenting style comes close. 281 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 4: And then you're in the room with all these parents 282 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 4: and they believe in how they raise their kids, but 283 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: they're typically open to, you know, what else works and 284 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: what can we do to be better? Because we all 285 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 4: want to be better? Right And I thought in the 286 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: first season that I was brought in as a bad parent. 287 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 4: I've just started second season. I'm the perfect parent. 288 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah. 289 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: I mean, nobody will ever know because there's no film 290 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: crew following you. 291 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 4: This is why I say it, You're just going to 292 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 4: have to take my word for it. I'm always then 293 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: in the house. My children never fight, They always clean 294 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 4: up after themselves, exactly right. 295 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 3: Mornings are perfect. 296 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: There were some really really difficult moments to watch in 297 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: the show we had, you know, screen safety. We looked 298 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: at answering the door to strangers. There was the fire. 299 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: There were lots of moments that were really quite confronting 300 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: for parents. What stood out to you as being one 301 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: of the most challenging experiences. 302 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 4: I actually think it was opening the front door. And 303 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 4: I think because a lot of the conversations we have 304 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: around our kids with safety is what we do when 305 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 4: we're at the park. We talked to them about online. 306 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: Yet here we are, we have more people coming to 307 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: our house and deliveries with online shopping and all these 308 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: days that I don't think we've ever had the discussion 309 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: with the kids about not opening the door, because I 310 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 4: mean we as we learned, you know, it's just you. 311 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: The moment you cracked that door open, it's done. It's done, 312 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: and that scare the hell out of me. That one. 313 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 4: So I think that one was probably the most confronting. 314 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: And as a result of those experiences ALI as you 315 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: watch them, did it prompt any conversations that you had 316 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: at home with your kids? 317 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 4: I do know that with the stranger in the park 318 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 4: with puppies, that was one where Mac was watching. When 319 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 4: he was watching that, and he he was going, oh, Mum, 320 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 4: you never never go as strangers, do you. And I'm 321 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 4: sitting on the couch thinking I've had this really great 322 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: win and how good a parent am I? He understands it. Yes, 323 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: unless they've got puppies, then you'd absolutely go, wouldn't you. 324 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, there's a little bit more work to 325 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 4: do around this. We have watched it with the kids 326 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 4: and we've had some really important conversations. But you know, 327 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: I think those conversations have to take place as they're 328 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 4: actually seeing it and they can visualize it, and so 329 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 4: you know, that's a conversation that we've now had about 330 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: what happens when the doorbell rings and what you do 331 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: in that moment. I mean, we're currently not leaving the 332 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 4: kids at home on their own. I mean, I reckon 333 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 4: six more months before we do that, right, I mean, 334 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: you wouldn't leave six and a half. He'll be fine, 335 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 4: but not home on their own. But it is one 336 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 4: of those things for down the track that need to 337 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: be aware of. 338 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 2: Well, Allie, I could talk to you all day. There 339 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: are so many more questions that I want to ask you. 340 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 3: That was much nicer to you than cheers to me. 341 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: Well, that's true, I think I like you more. 342 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 2: That is not true. 343 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 4: I adore your husband and for doing the show. He's 344 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: sitting next to him telling me to stop talking, stop 345 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 4: saying nice things. But I mean, he's a wonderful human 346 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 4: being and he's got a beautiful way with you know, 347 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: the wisdom and all that he shares and the advice 348 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 4: and that it's never attacking parents, and it's just always 349 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: so helpful, and you know, he's made me a better parent. 350 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: So but now I'm gonna say some really mean things 351 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: about him, so he doesn't get a big cat. 352 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: Great give them to me. Come on, come on, Allie. 353 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 3: I watched season two though, as everyone else says around 354 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: the country, and Alie, I feel like I need to 355 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: be a little bit crankier in season three. I feel 356 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 3: like I feel like I just need to be a 357 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: bit firmer on a few things like well, you know what, 358 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: I'm not going to talk about them now, We've talked 359 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: about it for the last couple of weeks on the podcast, 360 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: but I think season three we might see a not heaps, 361 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 3: but just I'm going to ratchet it up a couple 362 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: of levels, and I think the challenges are going to 363 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: go up a level or two as well, if we're 364 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 3: lucky enough to get a season. 365 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 5: Three The Darker side of Doctor Justin Coulson anyway, coming 366 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 5: to you season three, Well, if I could say one 367 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 5: thing to wrap things up, what stands out to me 368 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 5: the most is that in every family there needs to 369 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 5: be somebody. 370 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: Who is the glue that holds it all together. And 371 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 2: you just did such a beautiful job of bringing just 372 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: structure and definitely control of the room, but warmth. And 373 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: I loved seeing that that moment when you took Kat out. 374 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: Of the room. 375 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: I don't think there was a dry eye in all 376 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: of Australia and it was just beautiful that you were 377 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: able to be there and to take that beautifully maternal 378 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 2: approach and help her through what was such a challenging moment. 379 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: And I just I just want to tell you how 380 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 2: much I appreciated that the show in general, but just 381 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm speechless, speechless. 382 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 4: Job but I mean in that moment, right, I mean 383 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 4: you were sitting at home and watching it, and all 384 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 4: you wanted to do was to give Kat a hug. 385 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:31,639 Speaker 4: I mean I was in the room and I was 386 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 4: in a position where I could That's all I wanted 387 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: to do in that moment. That's instinct, right, And you 388 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 4: would have done it, Kylie if you were sitting there 389 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 4: and you just just to wrap your arms around her 390 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: and tell her it's going to be okay. 391 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was beautiful to watch. So I can't wait 392 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: for season three. Just saying no because we get cranky cool, well, 393 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: that means you need to be more mellow. 394 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: I can do I can do that. 395 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 4: Let him have all the hard conversations. 396 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 3: I put my feet up. 397 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 4: I won't even say a word. 398 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 5: I think. 399 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 3: I think that Australia is going to experience a Langdon 400 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: withdraw with you only being on our TV screens for 401 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: half an hour every night at seven o'clock. 402 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 4: There's been a bit, hasn't that, And it's been very 403 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 4: strange going Okay, thank you for watching a current affair 404 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: hang around for me on more TV show about me, 405 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 4: not about me, but a show I am part of. 406 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, thanks so much, for talking to us, Elie. We 407 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 2: just love having you on and I can't wait to 408 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 2: do it again. 409 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: I can't either, Thanks guys. 410 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 3: Allison Langdon the host of A Current Affair and Parental 411 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 3: Guidance Season two, which has just concluded on your screens 412 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: on Channel nine. If you want to see the rest 413 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 3: of it or catch up on what you haven't seen, 414 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: you can visit the nine Now app, download the nine 415 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: Now Apple I should say and watch Parental Guidance there. 416 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: The Happy Family's podcast is produced by Justin Rowland from 417 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is our executive producer. We loved 418 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: having you along for the Parental Guidance right. Hopefully we 419 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: get to do it again. The Happy Family's Podcast turns 420 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: tomorrow with I'll Do Better Tomorrow as we discuss how 421 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: we can be better parents.