1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Jump Mission with Jones and Amanda. Do you know our 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: next guest has more number one albums in Australia than 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: the Beatles. He is also an extraordinary author and he's 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: got a stack of brilliant news stories called Killing Time 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: Short Stories from the Long Road Home. It's Jimmy Barnes's 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: new book. And he speaks to us now, Hello, Jimmy, 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: how are you? 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Hi, Kim, how are we doing? You guys? All right there? 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: We've been holding up well doing the COVID. I'm appreciating 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: seeing you and Jane on Instagram. She's become quite the 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: guitar player. 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: She's worked really hard at at you know, let's literally 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: she can strom a couple of chords when we started 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: seven months ago, and every day she sits down and 15 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: learns something, and she's been teaching herself, you know, mostly 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: she spends a couple of hours a day working on it. 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: She did get a couple of recording boot camps, you know, 18 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: like a couple of our sessions with Diesel and stuff 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: like that, which were really you know, not many people 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: get to do that. So that's. 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: What would Diesel know? 22 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: Did I see? 23 00:00:58,360 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: Also? What would you know? 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: Was she also playing back up bagpipes for you as 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: well on stage. 26 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 2: She's a girl of many talents. She I said, Jane, 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 2: did you play the bagpipe? And you know she used 28 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: to play the recorder at school so she could read 29 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: music and stuff. So she's you know, I showed her 30 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 2: what to do and she knows she's better than me actually, 31 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: which really gets on the nurse. But she's but no, 32 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: she can do it, and she wants the one song 33 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: we did on this lockdown. You know I wanted to do, 34 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: I said, as a challenge, I said, cand you play piano, 35 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: and so she rang Jackie, my son who lives in Brisbane, 36 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: and Jackie gave her a quick piano lesson over the 37 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: phone and she next time she played a song on 38 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: the piano. Very chalunded girls, multi instrumentalist. 39 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I saw the other day the morning we heard 40 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: that Eddie van Halen had passed away, and you tweeted 41 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: that you were asked in the mid eighties to join 42 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: van Halen. 43 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, sort of a couple of times. Actually, I was 44 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: asked when when David left and Eddie came over to 45 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: the apartment in Los Angeles where we were saying, but 46 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: I couldn't I couldn't go out to his place because 47 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: I was babysitting Jaina gun shopping and uh and Mahelia 48 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: was sound to sleep, she was on their baby. And 49 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: so I said, now I can't come, and he said, 50 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: I'll come to you, and he came over, and you know, 51 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: it was a big thrill. He was he was one 52 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: of the the great guitar players our time. You know, 53 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: he's sort of revolutionized guitar playing and uh and take 54 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: to be you know, just even off of that, that 55 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 2: gig was a was was a was a huge drill 56 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: and I was very honored. But at the time I was, 57 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: I was just gone solo. I was making records and 58 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: I just wanted to really work on what it was 59 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: doing myself, so I couldn't do it. But it was 60 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: very nice and that I think they they sort of 61 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: tried to get to me through management. Uh when when 62 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: Sammy Hagar left as well, so you know, you know, 63 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: to an honor and you know, and I wish I 64 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: had a chance. I wish I'd had the chance to 65 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: do it to some some work with him. But it's 66 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: you know, it's a real loss for the for the 67 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: rock world. He was. He was one of the truly 68 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: one of the greats. 69 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: Definitely, and also you would have had to wear spandex Jimmy. 70 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: I don't know how that would have gone. I would 71 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: have known that wouldn't have been attractive. Some of the 72 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: I can't even imagine that. 73 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Spanding meat and potatoes. So there's a there's some incredible 74 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: stories in your new book. And I saw that they 75 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: had one in the newspaper too recently. They printed bit 76 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: and I cried when I first read about it was 77 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: the loss of your Poochi, Snoop and Oliver last year. 78 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: It was heartbreaking up because you know they were they 79 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 2: were like babies. They've been through hell and high water 80 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: with me, you know, literally, they they sat there when 81 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: there was there was times in my life where they 82 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 2: were the only people that would talk to me, the 83 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: only guys that would talking to me. I'd sit with 84 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: my dogs and they were always happy to see me, 85 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: you know, when the rest of the world wanted to 86 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: kill me, including Jane. You know, the dogs would say, 87 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 2: it's okay, come and come and pat us. We're okay. 88 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: So they were like my babies, and it was really 89 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: heart wrenching thing. You know, they were sixteen years old. 90 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: And when they'd left up. You know, I still cry 91 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: every day. I've got them on. I got their ashes 92 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: on my mantel piece, and I get up and spoken 93 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: this morning interviews. You know, I was and you know what, 94 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: I did a book lawn Flower the other night, and 95 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: and they want to be a read that part of 96 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: that chapter, and I couldn't do it because I was 97 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: just crying too much. So yeah, I still miss him. 98 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: But you know, you know people out there who are 99 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: attached to their dogs and know what it's like. Yeah, 100 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: that's right, part of the family. And it was just 101 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: a horrible loss. I'm in morning still. 102 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Can you tell us about the time you found yourself 103 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: start making in front of Nicole Kidman. Perhaps that's an 104 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: easy yeah, yeah. 105 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well you put Nicole. That's another that's a horrible thought. 106 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: Now listen. It was you know, it was for a charity. 107 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: Brian Brian Brown's wife, Rachel Ward, who's who's a lovely woman. 108 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: I've been a beautiful girl. She she rang one day 109 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: and I think I've been awake for a couple of 110 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: days drinking and she said, she said, oh hello, Jim, 111 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: would you, in that proper English voice of her, you 112 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 2: would you would you do you do the full Monte 113 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 2: for me? And I went, yeah, no worries. You know, well, 114 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: of course, Rachel for you anytime. I thought she was kidding. 115 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: And a few months later a call from Brian and 116 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 2: he's thanking me for a half great you've done it, mate, 117 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 2: your bloody top like her, all sort of stuff. And 118 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: apparently because I had said yes to her, she had 119 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 2: roped in all these other blokes to do it, you know, 120 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: on the basis of me doing it. And it was 121 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: for for you know, a charity for single mothers and 122 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: kids and then all sort of stuff, so I could 123 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: it was a really great cause and I couldn't say 124 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: it no. And I remember I was because it was 125 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: a was frightening thing, you know, one of the most 126 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 2: frightening things I ever done in my life. And I 127 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: remember sitting there and I was like, I'm going to 128 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to do this, you know, but I'd 129 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: already been you know, it was on sale. It was 130 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: you know, it was like it was really just going 131 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: to be really successful. She was raising a lot of money. 132 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: And I said, so, I said to Rachel, said, you 133 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: don't want you want me to take my clothes off. 134 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't. I'll wrestle a tiger on stage 135 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: anything rather than take my clothes off, you know, But 136 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: he said, no, we want to get your year after. 137 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: So it was you know, it was for a good cause. 138 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: But I tell you, never again, never again. 139 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 3: You're never getting the nude again. 140 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 2: You know, never again. 141 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: We had was because you know, we play Flame Trees 142 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: a bit on this radio station, and what I love 143 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: about Flame Trees is that every time I hear it, 144 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: I can never get tired of that song. But Amanda 145 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: and I had an argument a few weeks ago when 146 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: we played the song because I had an epiphany. I've 147 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: been playing that song I Reckon since I started in radio. 148 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 3: And there's the line. You know, this is just around 149 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: the time of the young local atufactory worker. They're holding 150 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 3: hands and the guy the character is wondering about it, 151 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: and then it goes into this. 152 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: And this bit here. 153 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: So I speculated with Amanda that that's his mate. As 154 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: he's wall gathering at the table with a bowl of 155 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 3: chips and a beer, he's thinking about this, and then 156 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 3: his mate goes, hey, mate, do you remember nothing stopped 157 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 3: us on the field in our day? Amanda disagree. 158 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: I disagreed. I just thought that he's speculating about looking 159 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: at this young man, thinking what choices will he make, 160 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: and then he's just thinking of how he felt when 161 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: he was a young man that the world was his oyster, 162 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: and has it worked out that wild? 163 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 2: I think I think it's I think it's him sitting 164 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: there himself, just going the I remember when when we 165 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: were invincible, you know, when we were either it's sort 166 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: of like it's sort of the story of the band really, 167 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: you know, well, it's you know, we you know, we 168 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: were there was a point where it was us against 169 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: the world and nothing was going to get in our way, 170 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: and we were just there and you know, I remember, no, 171 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 2: we couldn't get we couldn't get signed to a record deal, 172 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 2: we couldn't get arrested. Were it was us against the world, 173 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: and we were there and we didn't care that nobody 174 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: else in the world liked us. We were going to 175 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 2: we were going to conquer and sort of a bit 176 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: like that. And I think, you know, Steve, but Steve 177 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: was a very Steve was a really gentle, you know, 178 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: soul and and I think he sort of quite often, 179 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: you know, reminiscent and you know most of those lyrics 180 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: you know were were Stephen was Steve and onn but 181 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: but but I think particularly Steve, you know, were would 182 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: have would have said that, would have you know, would 183 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: have felt like you know that you know that there 184 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 2: was us with our backs against the wall and we 185 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: were gonna we weren't going to buckle. Well, you're more 186 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: helped them, you know what you're you're looking more at 187 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: the alerts to. 188 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: That, don't they like like John Lennon, I was just 189 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 3: a swimming pool to us, mate. 190 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: But you know the thing is the thing that that 191 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: that's the beauty of a good song. You know, every 192 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: every single person hears that song applies it to their 193 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: own life or to their own experience. And you know, 194 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: and and I do that with every song I sing. 195 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: You know, I'll sing soul songs and I'll have the 196 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: song will take on a complete new meaning to me. 197 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: Then it might have made you know, done when James burns. 198 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: So you know that that's the beauty of a great song. 199 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 2: The lyrics, and you can turn for any where you want. Well, 200 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: there's classic stories about Bob Dylan, you know people you know, 201 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: people say, no, it's about this and he's going, no, 202 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: it's not about anything like that. 203 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 3: Well, you're more you're more helpful than Don. Don said. 204 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: They're not eating chips with the beer and flame trees. 205 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: They're having a ball of nuts. 206 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: Jimmy, he's never eaten ups in his life. 207 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: Speaking of Jimmy and Spandex, Jim it's always a treat 208 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 3: to talk to you. I'm loving the book Killing Time 209 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: is on sale today, available online and in Big store 210 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 3: and in bookstores. Jimmy Barnes, thank. 211 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: You, Thanks you guys all was the pleasure to talk 212 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: to you. 213 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you and love to Jane 214 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: With James and Amanda