WEBVTT - Gracie Piscopo’s Partner Charged With Murder, Bec Judd Subscription Fee, Mikaela Testa Keeps Track of Atis & Em Davis Hits Out At Valley Gir 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:06.080 Coming up on today's show, influencer Gracie Piskapo's baby daddy 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:09.440 charge over the alleged murder of his own mother. Beck 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.080 Judd slam for charging a monthly subscription feed for exclusive 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.560 Instagram content, Mikayla Tester offers up thirty thousand dollars to 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.759 see ex partner Addis Paul's shared location again, and m 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:23.680 Davies hits out at Valley Girl. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.880 Hello and welcome to Outspoken. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.440 It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:33.159 news twice a week. I'm Amy Torbert, and I'm so 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:35.880 excited because tonight I'm putting up my Christmas lights. 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:37.599 You're not doing that. 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:39.519 The day before you're engagement party, are you. 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:41.120 Well, of course I am, because I want everyone to 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:42.200 see them. Oh my god. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.919 Amy sitting here before we started recording, stressing like I've 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:46.560 got so much to do, and I'm like, please, don't 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:49.320 do things that aren't necessary. Look when you see them 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.760 on Saturday, it's gonna look amazing. I have a bone 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.040 to pick though, with the stores that are selling Christmas 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:57.720 lights at the moment. I want gold lights. They're labeled 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.920 as warm white. I went, I got some lights they're friggin' white. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.640 They are not gold. I don't like them as well. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.920 Gold should be just gold. White should be white. Why 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:07.760 is that so difficult? 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.720 One k Torbert and I was feeling a strange sense 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:14.400 of pride and shock on the weekend when my partner 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.759 pulled out the worm on the dance floor for his. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:17.840 Brother's birthday party. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:20.640 We need to give context because this was a dancer's 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.160 birthday party, so there was a lot of amazing dances 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.759 on the dance floor and the song that was playing 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.400 was Pony, so it was a bit of a stripped 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.680 stripper move. I feel like, yeah, so Reese's brother, Ryan, 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:32.920 as you said, is a professional dancer. His friend Ricky 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:35.360 was also there that's a professional dancer, and they were 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.440 getting ready to have a bit of a dance off. However, 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:40.360 Reese ran in and just shocked everyone by doing the worm. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.119 I feel like we need to almost share the video 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:44.800 dance the story. Is this going to be an indication 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.360 of what your wedding dance is going to be? 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.120 Like, oh my god. It was put a bit of 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:50.480 pressure on me. I was thinking about that. Have you 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.480 guys started planning a special dance? 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:54.240 Yes, we have got the song picked out, but we 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.760 haven't actually started doing any rehearsals or anything. 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:57.960 I think it was a few weeks out. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.440 Do we get a sneak peak of what the song 0:01:59.480 --> 0:01:59.840 is is? 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:02.160 Oh, let's just keep it under wrapped for now. 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.480 Well, I'm Saphie to Albert, and I felt like I 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.280 went on a very nostalgic trip down memory lane because 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.200 I came across this meme and it was of a 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:11.480 toy called a sky Dancer. So it's one of those 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.399 toys you pull the lever and this little doll sort 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:15.200 of spins. 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:15.280 In the air. 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:15.799 You need to have. 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:19.280 It's a string, a string, yeah them, Yeah. And I 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:21.720 put a call out to Instagram asking listeners what their 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:24.960 favorite nineties toys were, and I'd forgotten so many. So 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:30.079 one of my favorites that I've forgotten about is Tipsy Tail, and. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.320 You pulled the ponytail through. 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:31.600 Yeah. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:33.400 And then there was Katie Kiss, which. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.200 You got Tipsy Tail for our sixth birth day and 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:41.040 I got Katie Kiss and I got the other one 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.279 that I really want to bring back is a Tamagotchi. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:45.079 I mean, I don't have enough things to look after, 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:47.160 but Tamagotchi's you can buy them at the moment. 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:48.560 Okay, I've got to get one. And what about the 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.520 digimons as well? And the poll pocket? 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.399 Oh yeah, do you remember they had that Pika chew. 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:56.440 It was a bit like a tamagotchi except to have pokey. Yeah, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.240 and he had to walk in order to get coin, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.400 So there was this incentive to exercise, but it was 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:02.240 only to gamble. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.359 You could also just shake it, yeah, which is why. 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.320 I saw on Etsy they're selling a lot of these 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.520 old games, and someone's trying to sell the Ferby for 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.840 a couple of hundred dollars. I got a Ferbie on 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.360 Facebook Marketplace and flipped it and sold it for a lot. Really, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.280 they are in high demand. I remember they were so 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.360 expensive when they first came out, and I thought it 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.400 was so cool because that cousin had her twenty first 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:21.920 and she got given a Ferbie. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.440 So people want to know what they get when they 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:29.120 subscribe to me. I think it's all so new, like 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.240 I've literally just enabled it today. 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:34.800 I just saw it come up on my Instagram that 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:35.880 I was eligible. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.840 Beck Jad has put herself forward as a guinea pig 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.840 for Instagram's latest feature, in a bid to compete with 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:45.360 only fans and sunroom. Instagram is rolling out a subscription 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.120 based program for its top creators. Okay, how has this 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.800 decision gone for Beck? Well? 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:51.440 Not great. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.240 People have labeled it as a cash grab and said 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.080 that she's out of touch, and a lot of the 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:59.640 commentary seemed to center around the fact that Beck already 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.520 earns lot of money through paid partnerships. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:03.560 So why does she need more money? 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.160 Now? There's a lot to unpack there. But why I 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.320 think that she pissed off so many people is that 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.000 she launched the subscriptions with the story asking followers to 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.160 tell her what they wanted to receive as a paid subscriber. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:16.760 I don't think that was very step. You're but Kate, 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:19.000 We've got to remember she is huge on Instagram. Yes, 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:20.680 she might not be sharing about her life in the 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:23.400 way that other influencers do by giving them an all 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.240 access pass, but I think that people are going to 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.200 be very interested in that, even if she doesn't know 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.760 exactly what she's giving. The thing is, though, Sophie, a 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.680 lot of people are interested in following along with people's 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.680 lives when it's for free and they're not having to 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.440 actually shell out their hard earned cash for it. Beck 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.320 is charging four dollars forty nine a month to see 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.479 her exclusive content and she hasn't even got a strategy 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.280 or a plan behind what she's giving out before people 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.760 pay for I found it quite interesting because there are 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:51.839 some other influencers who are also offering this subscription, but 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.200 they haven't seemed to have got as much hate as Beck, 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.720 and I think the reason is there are influences out 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:00.280 there and there are question marks over sort of why 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.920 people follow them, because a lot of people have said, well, 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.920 I'm happy to subscribe to something where I'm actually getting 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.479 something back. So whether that might be, for example, a 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.200 podcast you might get extra content, or whether it's a 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.119 motivational speaker and they give you tips, or a videographer 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:16.359 or a videographer that you learn step by step. But 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:18.960 I think the question mark is what is the content 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.359 that beck is offering up for this four dollars forty 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.680 nine a month. Going back to the price case, I 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.320 didn't think that four forty nine was a huge amount 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.800 to pay for a subscription. However, once you do have 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:31.719 to start paying for all of the people that you 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.120 enjoy following on instagramming becomes very costly. See I thought 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.479 four forty nine was ridiculous for a subscription to beck Judd. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:42.080 Think about how much Amazon costs. That's six dollars Amazon Prime, 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.200 six dollars a month. So you're paying a dollar less 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.400 to get beck Judd's content than you are for a 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.200 streaming platform that's got you know, it depends, it depends 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.640 what she's actually offering more. Let's get into that, because 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:56.000 on Sunday she didn't know and she put up a 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.680 box asking her followers to give her some ideas. She's 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.280 obviously developed the idea a little bit more because when 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.560 you click on a subscribe button, she's now come up 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:07.159 with a real and I don't think the real really 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.560 helped because it was just her taking selfies and her 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.680 posing at photo shoots and pouting, and there was a 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.919 little bit of better. There was a little bit of 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.720 Chris Judd in there, and her kids. And in the caption, 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:22.240 she said that subscribers will be taken behind the scenes 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.960 of her newest design projects and social events, as well 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.159 as get exclusive offers from her partners. She also said 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:30.760 it would be an open channel for more communication between 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.960 me and my most dedicated followers. She ended up saying 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.040 this is all new to me, so let's see how 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:36.640 this goes. 0:06:37.040 --> 0:06:37.280 Now. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.080 The whole communication thing interested me because for me, I 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:45.440 don't really find Beck Judd someone that is really interactive 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.880 on her social media accounts. There's people like flex Marmie 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:52.680 who has already started making money off Instagram by setting 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.640 up a close Friends account where people pay to be 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.360 on her close Friends list, and Amy, as you were saying, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.800 there were some influencers that have already started monetizing Instagram 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.000 in this way that subscribers pay for their content. However, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.120 they haven't received backlash, and I do think it has 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.560 a lot to do with the fact that Beck Judd 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.800 does push a lot of sponsored posts and a lot 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:16.680 of content that's probably not very reachable. It's very aesthetic 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.960 and aspirational, but it's not very down to earth. 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:21.200 And I think that Beck's. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.680 Suddenly saying, oh, well, now that I'm getting a bit 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.760 of money, I'm happy to take you behind the scenes 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:27.280 of what I'm doing. We've got to remember she's an entrepreneur. 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:31.120 She's also a speech pathologist. Everyone's acting like she's this dumb, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.560 stereotypical influencer. She's a forty year old woman who has 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.280 a lot of experience in the industry, and I think 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:39.760 you're sort of downplaying, but she's all about it. I 0:07:38.720 --> 0:07:41.320 just I think a lot of people think it's a 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.160 bit rich to be like, actually, I'm going to start 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.520 offering content about my life, Sophie. I'm not saying that 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:48.760 beck Judd is an intelligent and she hasn't been a 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.320 speech pathologist in her life, but what would have been 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.840 an intelligent social media strategy was coming up what you 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.280 were going to be offering your followers before you started saying, oh, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:07:58.680 we'll pay me five dollars and I'll come up with 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.320 it as I go. I mean she's trialing the tech though, 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:03.200 to be honest, like she's one of the first people 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.560 in Australia, but she chose to. I mean, yes, it's 0:08:05.560 --> 0:08:08.440 pretty brave because she's copped a lot of negative feedback. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.680 Another influencer who has done the same is Sophie Guidolin, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.080 and she is a fitness influencer who is actually charging 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:18.320 seven dollars forty nine a month. Come she's not copying it, well, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.600 she is copying it because what she's done is she 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.840 has put her wedding photos behind a paywalk because she 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.480 eloped a couple of weeks back, and she hasn't actually 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.800 shared any of the photos with her followers. And she 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.800 came out and said the reason for this is because 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.080 when she got engaged on her European trip, she found 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.199 out that she was packed, and she found that was 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.160 a real invasion of her privacy. So she started to 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.679 think differently about how she shares content. But then a 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.680 lot of people are like, oh, well, you're happy to 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:44.520 put it behind a payment. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:45.760 I don't see anything wrong with that. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.720 What's it any different from celebrities selling their wedding photos 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:49.360 to magazine. 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.079 Well, that's exactly what Sophia said. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.400 I think that we all assume that we're all owed 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:57.480 everything for free. I think, but kang on, but Sophie. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.160 Influencers don't put that content up for free. We talk 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:05.319 a lot about how influencers monetize their life events. So 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:08.440 they might think, well, I'm not getting paid X amount 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:10.640 for it, but they are because they get more followers, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.560 and the more followers they have, the higher advertising dollars 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.839 they charge. Because the whole, the whole thing about Instagram, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:18.160 it is based on eyeballs. 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.040 You attract, you attract the eyeballs and you attrack. 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.040 You can see the path that they're trying to go down. 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.080 A lot of influencers would say, well, I want to 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.560 do a subscription base, so then I don't actually have 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:29.600 to be spooking protein Pa. That's the way I think 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.440 people pissed off with beck jud because she's like, oh, 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:34.760 and I'll offer you new I'll offer you partnership deal. Yeah, 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.840 It's like, okay, but hang on, that's an ad within see. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.720 I actually think this subscription speature could be good in 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.359 a sense that we're going to get the best from influencers, 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.679 because I definitely am sick of seeing a lot of ads. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.600 I know that it comes with the deal of getting 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.920 access to people's lives, but this is probably content when 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:51.720 we're not going to see. 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:52.880 A whole pay for it. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.400 I'm not sitting there and being like, the thing is, 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.040 if I had to actually pay for people that I 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.440 follow on Instagram's content, I don't even I kind of 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.040 think of one that I probably pay for a few 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.199 because I think a lot of journalists will be paying 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:07.959 for it because they're going to get access to all 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.040 of these new stories, so it's going to be printed everywhere. Anyway, 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.720 I'm trying to there's a feature where you can't screen records. Well, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.840 that's the thing, because I really think it comes down 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:20.559 to the term influencer, because it's very loaded and at 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.360 the moment, there is a negative connotation with the word, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.520 and most influencers want to be referred to as content creators. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.120 And I do think that this is a perfect platform 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:34.120 for genuine content creators who put time and effort into 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:34.760 their craft. 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:36.719 And I think people are willing. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.520 To pay for perceived effort, but I don't think people 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.320 are willing to pay for oh, let me take you 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.920 behind the scenes of my life, because that's the content 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.320 we expect to get for free on Instagram. Well, with 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.200 Sophie Gwidlin, I could see her actually putting up some 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.199 really good fitness content that people would want to follow 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:52.880 that with a hair I go, yeah, I can see 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.160 by changing she's offering exclusive recipes and workouts, coaching access 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.440 to her launchers, and also you know, behind the scenes photos, 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.360 which is the most controversial part of it. But to 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.880 me that makes more sense because she basically said she 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.080 used to have a closed Facebook group where she would 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.600 put a lot of her coaching information and now she's 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:12.360 going to be offering that as a subscription on her platform, 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.280 and the reality is, if you don't want to subscribe 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:16.840 to Beck Judd, don't subscribe. 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:19.200 The thing is I genuinely enjoy following Beck Judge. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.480 She's one of the first people that I followed on Instagram, 0:11:21.480 --> 0:11:23.600 and I think she does face a lot of unfair 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:26.559 criticism as a female entrepreneur. Okay, Sophie, but put your 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.400 money where your mouth is. Would you pay four dollars 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.360 forty nine a month to subscribe to her channel? 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.000 This is the same person need to sign up for 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.600 the Sunny app, So she might because I. 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.480 Probably wouldn't pay it at this stage. But if I 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.920 start hearing in the media that she's dropping some absolute 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.000 bombs or she's videos like Nadia bok it came up, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.079 who is going to be able to afford to subscribe 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.120 to all their favorite influencers because the cost of living 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.600 is so expensive, interest rates are going up, Like, I 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:53.360 just don't understand how this is feasible at all. I 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:56.480 am interested to see how Instagram users do embrace this 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.080 subscription because it has the potential to change influencing and 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:01.480 also Instagram as we know it. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.200 Well, that's the thing. As I said earlier. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.719 Instagram has always been a place where you trade eyeballs 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.800 for advertising dollars, and now the whole model is turning 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:13.120 on its head, where influencers are going to be having 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.720 to abtract their own followers who are directly paying them, 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.560 And how do you operate like that because they're still 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.200 going to be having to do their typical ads on 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.040 their public channel. So are we just going to see 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.520 Instagram turn into ads for all the ads are on 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.480 the free channel and then all the stuff we actually 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.840 want to watch we have to pay for. Now. I'm 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.600 interested to see how much Instagram is getting as a 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.520 percentage for this, because like only fans, I think only 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:42.200 fans takes is it five percent or something along those lines. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.560 So it does seem like a move. 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:46.800 From Instagram to actually try and recoup some of the 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:50.280 money that's been spake because obviously influencers they take the 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.000 full cut of advertisers spend and Instagram's not getting any 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.800 of it. Yeah, that's a really good point. I do 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.840 wonder if this could be the death of Instagram or 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.360 be a revolution, because it's quite clear that they can't 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.160 continue on the way that they are. TikTok has taken 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.600 a lot of their users away, and I mean I 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.080 do I do wonder how this will affect platforms like 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:16.079 OnlyFans and sun Room. I actually think it could actually 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:19.640 help Instagram because although we're talking about, well, how much 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:21.600 free content are they going to put out? I think 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:24.800 as an influencer, as you said, people are only going 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.440 to have a certain amount of money to spend on 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.000 their favorite influencers, So you're actually going to have to 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.440 be putting out pretty like quality content for free for 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.920 people to go, oh wow, I actually want to buy 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.120 your content, because if you're just putting out ads, why 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:37.959 is anyone going to say? 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:39.559 I think that's why. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.920 People are so up in arms about Beck Judge charging 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.640 for content, because I think the quality recently hasn't been 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.839 there with her organic and anyone who follows Gary veeve 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:51.440 Widow the whole marketing it's meant to be give, give, give, give, give, 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.760 then ask for something you don't just ask ask. She's 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.520 been on there for ten years, yes, yeah, but she's 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:58.959 not giving given giving content. 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.400 She takes takes by putting up pieces of ads all 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:01.640 the time. 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.080 But she's also someone who maybe now where she's actually 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:04.800 getting paid for it. 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:06.679 She might invest in time. But that's the thing I 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:07.280 don't think. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.000 I think it was a spare of the moment decision 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:11.000 to put up the subscription. Yeah, come pay me, I'll 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.320 get some extra cash. This is going to be a 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.959 full time job for influencers. They're going to actually have 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.120 to put effort into this because if you look at 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.440 subscription like, you know what you get when you sign 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.560 up to Netflix, you know what you get when you 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.440 say you sign up to Mom and me are out loud, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.960 they are. They give you two extra podcasts a week 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.000 and you get access to all their content. When you 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.080 sign up to bet Judd, I have no idea what 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.680 I'm getting. She's still making up the formula. 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.000 Hi, everyone, welcome to our YouTube channel. 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:40.160 Got some deliveries from baby Fashion. I'm going to show 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.000 you guys what I got and do a little bit 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.640 of a try on a whole. The boyfriend and baby 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:48.440 daddy of Perth influencer Grazie Piscopo has been charged over 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.080 the alleged murder of his own mother Amy. 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:52.480 This has shocked the Internet. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.240 It really has because Gracie has over one million Instagram 0:14:56.280 --> 0:14:59.520 followers and she does live a very picturesque life. With 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:03.480 her parst Andre online. So Gracie is followed by the 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:07.640 likes of UK influencer Royalty, Molly May, Haigu, Saffron Barker, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:11.000 Grace Beverly and even Lottie Tomlinson. Is it wrong that 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.160 I've actually never heard of her until this to either? 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:16.920 I suppose that's his Instagram for you. 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:18.760 There are so many people that have a million followers 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.440 and you're like, I could walk past on the street 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.120 and no, no, Well, her career took off in twenty 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:27.440 nineteen because she modeled for Chloe Kardashian's Good American clothing brand, 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.360 So I feel like this is the last thing followers 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.120 would have expected that she would have been making headlines 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.440 about Amy. What do we know about her boyfriend, Andre Rabello. Well, 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:41.240 he's a twenty six year old self proclaimed cryptocurrency dealer 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:44.320 and he has been working as Gracie's manager. So he 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.720 also shares a son with Gracie and it appears they 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.800 have been dating since twenty fifteen. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.760 Wow, so for seven years. Yeah, so he is. 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.640 Literally all over her YouTube channel. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:55.160 I went and had a little bit of a look. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:56.440 She's not as big. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.440 On YouTube as she is on Instagram. I think some 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:01.400 of her videos were getting around the five thousand views. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.280 She had a really awkward one where it was they 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.760 were putting up their Christmas tree last year. That's been 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:09.640 splashed all over the news talking about awkward. Did you 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:12.600 see what influencer updates Au shared. So there was a 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:16.760 TikTok of Gracie dressed up as tinker Bell at Halloween 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:21.480 and let's throw to the clip, are you guilty or 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:22.160 not guilty? 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:30.040 Guilty? Don't you know you might have killed her? 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:31.120 Take a bell? 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.840 Holy fuck? I actually saw someone share that in tea 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:35.640 time as well. 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:38.760 Yeah, it's very awkward, and I think we should get 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:41.440 into what we know about the charges. So Andre has 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.280 been charged with the murder of his mother, Colleen. She 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.680 very sadly passed away in May twenty twenty, and he's 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.120 also been charged with a string of fraud charges which 0:16:50.160 --> 0:16:52.960 are allegedly linked to his mother's death. Now it's important 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.960 to note he has denied the charges and he will 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.080 be back in court on the twenty first of December 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.880 and possibly could receive bail. I was listening to the 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.560 press conference with the police detective who is in charge 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:07.080 of this investigation, and he dropped some interesting details. So 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.480 he said the investigation was a complex one which drew 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.680 on a lot of resources. He said, it's taken two 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.600 years to get it to this point, and it's an 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.639